EPTPeople think vivax is scum because he's always best mislynch.
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
People think vivax is scum because he's always best mislynch. | ||
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geript
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Shelvocke
Grenada70 Posts
On April 07 2013 07:16 Vivax wrote: Shelvocke what do you dislike about VE's case? Can you tell me your draft pick? A lot of the points that he came up with, especially the "lol list scum" and the part about explaining why denying isn't a good strategy have nothing to do with Order's alignment and it appears as if he threw them in solely to inflate his post and make it look as if he is doing something. | ||
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Vivax
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1. Shelvocke just asked me about VE's case. That means he's well aware of it. Nonetheless he didn't comment on it despite it containing some very strong points in my opinion. I would expect someone to put his scumread's case under more scrutiny and ask him out about it, not sidebump at people agreeing with it. Ninjad, so: On April 07 2013 07:42 Shelvocke wrote: A lot of the points that he came up with, especially the "lol list scum" and the part about explaining why denying isn't a good strategy have nothing to do with Order's alignment and it appears as if he threw them in solely to inflate his post and make it look as if he is doing something. The point about the denying thing was good. It showed that RO was arguing for a town NOT arguing about how to design role picks, which is not only bad in itself, but is also a way to discourage discussion. As for the lolist, yeah, that maybe wasn't a strong point but I can see VE throwing that in while digging through the filter. The point about RO apparently mixing scumreads with his 4/5 townreads still applies and has not been addressed by you. 2. Sno_Man, draft numbers please. You also have one of the best roles out there so it would be interesting to know: Is it KP-based or not (it likely is). Did you take a scumrole, a neutral or a townrole? 3. Geript On April 06 2013 14:02 geript wrote: I don't know if he's town or not. I'm saying that from the looks of thread sentiment he looks like a great potential mislynch. I played Scum in The Game. That was the clear reference. Have you not been paying attention? If he looks like a great potential mislynch it should be in your interest to try the hardest to figure out his alignment no? Defending him isn't exactly the way to go. You say he could also be lazy scum, are you trying to get him to play in a way to exclude or confirm that possibility?No, you're doing the opposite. Also, draft numbers plox. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Vivax
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Vivax
22076 Posts
On April 07 2013 08:13 Sn0_Man wrote: I picked 1,1 I'm pretty sure I shared that. I wasn't in any hurry to share my role, although I understand I might just die N1 on principle since scum know I have something good. So you didn't deny a strong scum role since you say it's "good" and you didn't pick a survival role either cause you say you might die. What is it then? KP? I doubt it's investigative. If it's KP you have no reason to not share your role with town, it can also backfire. How is scum supposed to know your pick or assume it's strong? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On April 07 2013 06:58 Vivax wrote: Took a look at VE's filter cause he seems to be under suspicion. Liked his case, sheeping it. On April 07 2013 07:08 Vivax wrote: A lot. I would say it contains irrefutable evidence of someone not believing what he claims to be thinking is best to believe. Multiple times you've said you liked the case and sheer +1'd it. You gave a minor rehash of the points recently, one which quite frankly missed a main point entirely. You've completely ignored any points against VE. You continue to try and distract people with this bullshit draft numbers even after people have pointed out that it's both bullshit AND after you admitted that in a previous game scum did exactly what you thought they wouldn't do. Quite frankly, this is looking exceptionally similar to Vivax in LX where you were smurf hunting. On April 07 2013 07:58 Vivax wrote: 2. Sno_Man, draft numbers please. You also have one of the best roles out there so it would be interesting to know: Is it KP-based or not (it likely is). Did you take a scumrole, a neutral or a townrole? Congratulations scum #3. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On April 07 2013 08:18 Vivax wrote: So you didn't deny a strong scum role since you say it's "good" and you didn't pick a survival role either cause you say you might die. What is it then? KP? I doubt it's investigative. If it's KP you have no reason to not share your role with town, it can also backfire. How is scum supposed to know your pick or assume it's strong? Don't answer him. He's just fishing for information. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Countdown: 3 Snoman, I couldn't care less about you claiming your role right now. You've done 0 productive things ever since the game started, and you keep not doing them now. Of course you'll take a great role as both scum or town, and I'd take a bet that even if you are town scum won't shoot you soon or may even steal your role and keep you alive (or you may claim something similar later). Comment on cases, choose which one you agree with/disagree with, post scumreads. It would be a pity if someone were to day vig you right now and you flip town, so get to it (no this is not me claiming day vig) Vivax, VE's case is bad except that "RO mixed scumreads with town reads" bit. Read my previous posts for a more thorough explanation. If you want to accuse RO, sheeping VE's case is the worst way to do it. Come up with stuff of your own that's actually incriminating if you still think he's scum. Also stop with the draft number shit. It's already apparent who took what or in what range their numbers are. You can even check it with that "lolList" from VE's case. Also Palmar seems like scum Palmar. If you act this unhelpful (like that other game of yours) just so scum don't kill you at night, I'd advice you that townies (or even scum) day-viggin you on D1 is also possible, if not more probable. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
BM is a good lynch too imo. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Vivax
22076 Posts
This what you said, gonzaw: The thing about RO "wanting" to kill people he previously said would basically be town because of drafting picks is valid; but it's enough to pressure him not enough to make a "case" (specially considering your previous 2 "bad" points). Ultimately, the ONLY thing you can say against RO is that he wants to kill some people he previously said are likely town. It wouldn't be that bad if you kept pushing it (using RO's consequent reactions and responses as well) and didn't masquerade it with previously bad points. No, it's not the only thing. Already said it goes against what RO himself said about the heuristic he himself brought up and defended. RO's whole defense against VE's case was "lol", and Palmar still didn't explain what makes VE scum aside from activity (and I would like to see how he defines that one). | ||
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Restraining Order
Qatar276 Posts
On April 07 2013 08:49 Vivax wrote: Why would RO claim that he wants to lynch people he judged as town previously based on something he called a "really good heuristic" before? Already explained.. On April 07 2013 08:49 Vivax wrote: No, it's not the only thing. Already said it goes against what RO himself said about the heuristic he himself brought up and defended. RO's whole defense against VE's case was "lol", and Palmar still didn't explain what makes VE scum aside from activity (and I would like to see how he defines that one). Oh so you found a second thing. gz. Well, I feel like geript's reaction to VE's case is very sufficient. You may take the things he wrote as equal to my opinion on it. Apart from the couple meta parallels to the game, which I don't know about since I didn't read that game. But the rest. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
The vibe I get from RO is that he's someone who's smurfing and thinks he's pretty good so he's trying to emulate the current vet meta where you insult the thread and don't give a lot of reads. Keep that in mind everyone who is accusing him, everyone wants to be protactinium, and anonymously win the game and then claim who they are later. He could still be scum but the evidence atm doesn't convince me. VE: holy crap how many times have I seen VE mislynched for doing almost exactly the same thing. His more recent posts about not caring about the game are like textbook VE. Yes I will concede, there is a very good case on him, but you all need to understand my own personal history with VE: I've been that guy who railroaded a d1 lynch against town VE before and I can tell you, it's really easy. idk what it is about VE but he's like the biggest lynch bait currently playing. Now here are some people who are worth looking into, Shevlocke and Vivax. More on them after the break. oh also FOS:raynpelikoneet <-- this dude is slippery, but idk if I can make a case yet. | ||
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