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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 08 2013 21:28 GMT
#1909
Well that was an unexpected surprise to come back to. GJ Caller and Emperor (whoever you may be).
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 08 2013 21:39 GMT
#1911
On April 07 2013 14:48 sinani206 wrote:
VisceraEyes: I was leaning scum before and he hasn't really done anything to change my mind besides participating a little bit more. To be on the safe side, I'll say null with a red tinge.

So yea. I brought this up when he first said it. VE flipping scum it even more relevant. And sinani hasn't addressed it yet.

Sinani scum.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 09 2013 01:21 GMT
#2000
Someone (Palmar? decon? Caller?) give me a rundown on what you expect from town MZ vs scum MZ.

Because I went back to LVIII (the only game I've played with him), and his entire contributions to the thread before he died was trying to lynch Palmar (town), marv (town), then callilng Palmar and supersoft (scum) town a bunch. While bitching about the length of the thread, and riding along with the bandwagons. I can't honestly say I expect much from MZ, at least based on that game.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 09 2013 01:38 GMT
#2005
On April 09 2013 10:27 Vivax wrote:
Palmar was town in that game btw.

The thing about MZ is that he called Artanis scum and gonzaw's case better than his own while poking others about other players. He tried hard to look like he wasn't making any mistakes with positioning himself.

But that's currently pretty much the only thing I paid attention to in his filter. Let's see if we even need to make cases.

I know Palmar was town. That's why I put the (town) in parentheses by his name the first time :o

FWIW, I think MZ's read progression looks genuine. I have him in the "leaning town" category.

As far as poking people about other players: why can that only come from a scum MZ? He asked for opinions from 4 lurkers about 5 players, including Artanis and (his case) Shelvocke. That doesn't seem strictly scum motivated to me.

Also he dropped (or at least put on the back burner) his case on Shelvocke to push/make sure people didn't forget about Artanis. This post in particular stands out:

On April 08 2013 13:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
we can wifom what scum want us to think by the gonzaw kill from here till kingdom come but we won't get anywhere. Ultimately we need to stick with artanis as he has been consistently scummy and pushed by a now confirmed townie.

@Yamato. I'm really tired with you calling me scum and never backing it up, come up with some reasons or shut up.

Yea, scum *COULD* do that. But I just feel like its way more likely from a townie, considering Artanis flipped Assassin.

And he was concerned about VE.

Yea, I would lean town on MZ. So someone explain the scum read to me.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 09 2013 03:23 GMT
#2029
On April 09 2013 12:10 Shelvocke wrote:
Hey Keirathi. I'm not going to ask you again - why were you trying to say I could be the NRA member?

For some reason I had you confused with sinani and above VE in the draft order. There was another post I read at the time (maybe austin?) that said something similar, and it just stuck in my head.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 09 2013 03:28 GMT
#2032
On April 09 2013 12:23 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 12:10 Shelvocke wrote:
Hey Keirathi. I'm not going to ask you again - why were you trying to say I could be the NRA member?

For some reason I had you confused with sinani and above VE in the draft order. There was another post I read at the time (maybe austin?) that said something similar, and it just stuck in my head.

EBWOP: Ah, I found it.

On April 09 2013 00:56 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 09 2013 00:48 austinmcc wrote:
WEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEE

It is not terribly important whether this is similar to the yamato/kurumi shot in Personality 2. This is a different game, and I don't think either of you can go from proving your point as to whether it's similar --> scumhunting effectively in this game.

So please, drop it.

You are liking your role as 'thread police' slightly too much.
have less fun please.

Lynch VE?
I like to have fun.

In all honesty, I'm considering VE. I still believe shelvocke to be mafia, and I like that lynch a lot. Much of the case on VE is that he hasn't been doing anything, which is NOT something that I expect from mafia-VE, honestly. However, it's not something that I expect from town-VE, especially if geript is telling the truth and SOMEONE up at the top is an NRA member (I agree with the sentiment that if someone at the top took that role, it's likely VE OR shelvocke (again, shelvocke is pretty clearly a smurf and people seem to be overlooking that)).

Any reason in particular why I should lynch VE over shelvocke?


I had just read that post before I started writing. It just stuck in my head.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 09 2013 03:33 GMT
#2033
Anyways:

@Mocsta - I semi-disagree about sinani/Shelvocke. I don't think it makes them CONFIRMED town, but I do agree that the amount that Artanis wanted to lynch them compared to the amount he wanted to lynch VE does make it more likely that they are town. At the very least, they aren't good lynch candidates until much later in the game if they happen to still be alive.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 09 2013 03:59 GMT
#2038
Pretty sure neither one of you are mafia.

Quit having a shitfit and cluttering the thread with bullshit.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 09 2013 04:45 GMT
#2043
On April 09 2013 13:03 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 00:56 austinmcc wrote:
In all honesty, I'm considering VE. I still believe shelvocke to be mafia, and I like that lynch a lot. Much of the case on VE is that he hasn't been doing anything, which is NOT something that I expect from mafia-VE, honestly. However, it's not something that I expect from town-VE, especially if geript is telling the truth and SOMEONE up at the top is an NRA member (I agree with the sentiment that if someone at the top took that role, it's likely VE OR shelvocke (again, shelvocke is pretty clearly a smurf and people seem to be overlooking that)).

Kei,

In the above.

He likes Artanis major scum read: Shelvocke & gives a 50/50 on VE.

Considering his position on Artanis: Do you read anything into this?


Was watching GoT from last night.

Yea, austin looks pretty bad with Artanis and VE being scum. But I haven't put a lot of time looking into him yet. Will definitely do so and get something in the thread before night ends.

On April 09 2013 13:41 Mocsta wrote:
Kei
I am in the midst of some VCA.

Did you know you did not vote?

Your last action was: ##Unvote

Obviously I know :o

The day ended like 6 hours early.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 09 2013 05:02 GMT
#2048
On April 09 2013 13:52 yamato77 wrote:
Do not suddenly ignore Sinani, for the love of fucking god.

It's so insanely stupid to cross someone out who is OBJECTIVELY SCUMMY just because a scum you lynched said he would lynch him, but never even fucking voted him.

Just don't do it.

I'm of two trains of thought:

1) sinani is not the kind of player that has thread presence or the ability to direct town around where to go. Circumstantial evidence does point reasonably towards him being town, but again, thats circumstantial evidence at best. If we do leave him alive, he's not going to be a threat even if he is scum, because like I just said, he has no voice. Leaving him until later isn't a terrible idea, no matter what his alignment.

2) Thinking back on it AGAIN, the post that Mocsta quoted is interesting. Look at what it says:

On April 08 2013 23:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I've thought about it and I don't like a Sinani lynch at this moment. I'd prefer a vig shot rather than wasting time discussing him since he seems to not be willing to provide any information that would help to find out his alignment.


My initial thought when Mocsta requoted it was also that he wanted town to waste KP killing a townie. But there is another explanation. What about bulletproof? Sinani was pick 4 the draft. He's the kind of player that is reasonably likely to be vigged by town. If he's scum, it does kind of make sense for him to pick BP. NRA too, but obviously if he's scum and VE wanted NRA, they could have coordinated.

My point is, Artanis was telling town to shoot him rather than lynch him. Maybe it means nothing, but its interesting at least.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 09 2013 14:41 GMT
#2114
Quality entertainment to wake up to!
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 09 2013 14:51 GMT
#2115
On April 09 2013 21:38 Palmar wrote:
And I wrote the assassin and nra = scum analysis.

I hate everything about this so much.

That entire post was just you rehashing things that had already been said. Geript had told us why VE was probably NRA and probably scum. Yours was just why NRA was probably scum, didn't include who it was.

And EVERYONE had already concluded that gonzaw was shot by a scum assassin.

Your entire contribution was...nothing new at all. Why are you trying to buy town cred for that, rofl.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 09 2013 15:39 GMT
#2123
No you didn't.

No point arguing about it though. I'm not sure if you trying to act like the superhero townie here for no reason actually makes you more likely to be town or scum or just Palmar with an overinflated ego. So I'll drop it.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 10 2013 01:00 GMT
#2176
Some end of the night reads in case I die:

1) MZ: I already said why I think theres a better than average chance that he's town. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18239524 for reference.

2) ObviousOne: I badly wanted to condemn him for the spamming bullshit and not giving a shit about the thread, but his post about Artanis at least showed effort, and came to the right conclusion. The problem is nothing else he's done really shows any effort, when last game he was oozing townie from his pores because of how hard he was trying. Watch for now, lynch later I maybe.

3) Sinani: I hope someone shoots him. The Artanish soft-push towards him DOES point to town, but everything else points to scum. And that fucking "playing it safe" comment still bugs the hell out of me. Reasonably scum.

4) austin: Don't have a ton of time to write this up, but my impressions of austin this game: he was balls to the wall against policy lynching public KP. Which was an understandable position, but something about it just felt like posturing for himself or his teammates to be able to shoot later without getting insta-lynched. Everything else that he's done this game has either been generic advice, or defending Artanis and VE. (and yea, I'm counting the entire push on Shelvocke as a massive chainsaw defense. He was matching gonzaw post for post in the push towards Shelvocke and away from Artanis).

My *one* qualm about austin is that he did almost the same thing as town in....LIX? He opposed all the scum lynches, tried to get scum elected as mayor, and pushed townies. But I still say there's a pretty good chance he's scum, because (iirc) austin was still way more inquisitive and "trying to figure the game out'-y than he has been here. Will talk more after the day post if I'm alive.

TL;DR Lynch into sinani and austin, IMO.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 10 2013 01:08 GMT
#2181
It said 9pm est. So yea, should be.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 10 2013 01:09 GMT
#2185
there is no EST right now, so yes. EDT.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 10 2013 01:18 GMT
#2187
On April 10 2013 10:11 Palmar wrote:
why wouldn't there be est? my understanding was that you guys moved from est to edt for daylight savings, not that est magically changed?

Not exactly.

There are basically 5 time zones in North America: AST (Nova Scotia? and the far eastern parts of canada), EST, CST, MST, and PST.

During daylight saving time, they are pushed forward one hour, and called ADT, EDT, CDT, MDT, and PDT. Although technically no one actually calls them that at all unless they are trying to sound smart. People just keep calling them the "Standard" versions.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 10 2013 01:54 GMT
#2202
But its almost 9 my time, and I live in the central timezone!
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 10 2013 02:24 GMT
#2223
Austin not scum.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 10 2013 02:26 GMT
#2224
Anyways:

I don't expect to live through the night tonight, and assassin is already dead. I am a cop. I checked austin last night, and he is town.

I was also given the Lie Detector invention. I will use it when it's appropriate and let everyone know the results.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
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