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On April 07 2013 00:46 VisceraEyes wrote: In the meantime you could comment on my RO case Palmar. Or not,.because the game hasn't started yet. I don't care because I can't kill you one way or the other. Why are you avoiding me? | ||
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On April 07 2013 06:35 Ghor wrote: Can everyone put the numbers he sent to the hosts into his signature so I can rebuild the list without digging for needles in the haystack? There is no need for you to keep them secret if you are town. Stop this. The time for doing this is over. There is no reason to suspect people solely based off of the numbers they supposedly picked. Don't waste anyone's time with bull like that. | ||
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On April 07 2013 06:58 Vivax wrote: Took a look at VE's filter cause he seems to be under suspicion. Liked his case, sheeping it. On April 07 2013 07:08 Vivax wrote: A lot. I would say it contains irrefutable evidence of someone not believing what he claims to be thinking is best to believe. Multiple times you've said you liked the case and sheer +1'd it. You gave a minor rehash of the points recently, one which quite frankly missed a main point entirely. You've completely ignored any points against VE. You continue to try and distract people with this bullshit draft numbers even after people have pointed out that it's both bullshit AND after you admitted that in a previous game scum did exactly what you thought they wouldn't do. Quite frankly, this is looking exceptionally similar to Vivax in LX where you were smurf hunting. On April 07 2013 07:58 Vivax wrote: 2. Sno_Man, draft numbers please. You also have one of the best roles out there so it would be interesting to know: Is it KP-based or not (it likely is). Did you take a scumrole, a neutral or a townrole? Congratulations scum #3. | ||
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On April 07 2013 08:18 Vivax wrote: So you didn't deny a strong scum role since you say it's "good" and you didn't pick a survival role either cause you say you might die. What is it then? KP? I doubt it's investigative. If it's KP you have no reason to not share your role with town, it can also backfire. How is scum supposed to know your pick or assume it's strong? Don't answer him. He's just fishing for information. | ||
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As for S&B I'd like to hear his response, but I like your points about how he seems to find the draft/picking phase important but doesn't actually contribute anything to them at all. | ||
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On April 07 2013 15:11 Mocsta wrote: How much value are you giving him for being supposedly "high". Not any honestly. | ||
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On April 07 2013 15:28 Keirathi wrote: So go look at his filters from past games. Dismissing a meta read because you're too lazy to look at the meta yourself is just...wtfboggle. I did look at both games. I actually looked at NMM39 before you even brought him up. It's just that as of right now, I don't want to put too much faith in meta reads as I'm far more likely to look into the wrong things. I'm especially leery of using meta against a newer player as I don't think that meta transfers over games as well with newer players. On April 07 2013 15:28 Keirathi wrote: And my point wasn't that he was just pushing a plan to get himself high in the draft order. Yes, a townie could do that too. What I don't think a townie would do is specifically say that one plan was undeniably the best plan for town, the immediately flip flop on it and say that its a bad plan now, just because a new plan came up that benefits himself more. He's putting himself above the town as a whole; suddenly and for not much reason. (Which I also contend is completely different from what town rayn just did last game.) I agree that he's playing different from RED. I could see the failure to follow through on a plan in the role picking segment (once order was released) as being more related to how in general some people started to throw out accusations and head more towards scum hunting. As for dropping the "Geript Pod Plan" I don't have a good answer for that right now. I think it got shut out by various conversations and I want to go back and read that section more. On April 07 2013 15:22 Mocsta wrote: So if that is the case, im not following your prior comment. Yes, town and scum both want the top pick. But do you expect town to go on a big spiel about plans; and then cease to contribute once the goal is achieved? I think most of the plans weren't really terribly discussed but I need to go back and reread that whole section again. Will give a more firm answer in a bit. | ||
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On April 05 2013 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: 4 scum. RO, Oats, MZ, Caller :D On April 05 2013 11:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I initially had a pretty bad feeling about oats, however he's just been too loud for me to think he's scum at this point. I'm rather suspicious of artanis, I actually wanted an opinion on sharrant because I have him as a complete null, and decondou was a red herring which I threw out on a whim. In hindsight you'd be too smart to go for it as scum anyway  currently I have rayn as probable town since I've learned that the most annoying people tend to be town. That being said, I also really don't think RO is scummy. Also for the record, I'm not trying to force a wise man to do my bidding, just wanna check in with someone who completely played me before :D On April 05 2013 11:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats is bad town or scum. Artanis is .. hmm.. idk.. sharrant almost definitely town. deconduo, leaning on scum at him. RO = scum. kill him <3 This feels like an exceptionally odd interaction. Caller he later on takes time to call town for no reason. But Rayn never shows another opinion on MZ even commenting on a change. As a matter of fact the last real opinion I saw on MZ was: On April 05 2013 12:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: M_Z: He is non- committal, that makes me think he might be scum. What I find so odd about this interaction is that Rayn apparently continues to think MZ is scum but his post going over MZ's reads don't convey that at all. He doesn't even actually interact with him, put any pressure on him or try and engage MZ's reads. I don't see MZ as being terribly committal on his reads yet Rayn doesn't follow up on that at all. He just seems to be bouncing towards whatever the present case is on as said case comes up. I do find it interesting that Rayn doesn't give an opinion at all on Artanis especially after reading Gonzaw's case. ##vote Rayn VE what are you opinions of the cases on Rayn and Artanis? | ||
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On April 07 2013 16:42 gonzaw wrote: Geript, can you comment on my case please? I can't see how the stuff brought against rayn is any stronger than what I've posted about Artanis, and it seems you've read my case I don't wholly buy into the hiding in the setup stuff. It could likely be said of a few people. I even got my idea of draft pods partially from his RNG idea. I think your most damning point in the first part is that he neither tries to push why his ideas are good or better especially when his plan only works for 1-3 roles. It just seems far, far more questionable that he's just trying to throw out an idea without any reasoning behind it and doesn't care to assert himself. But I don't know anything about Artanis so that might be typical for him; it does seem odd that he was so carefree about setup and so hard to try and push me. I could see that as being related to that due to Draft phase being Day -1, Post draft being Day 0 and the extended foreplay really being done. As for complaining, in my experience complaining players are perhaps slightly more likely to be scum, but I wouldn't put it past 55%-45%. I get that those posts say mostly nothing, but I could see something like this come from busy/disinterested town. My distinct impression of the Artanis case when he posted it was a few things: First, Is this some sort of Chainsaw? Second, this seems like an odd set of things to be pointing out. Third, initially it feels like a case that came from town not scum (but this is completely a gut read). It does somewhat remind me of things that we'd look for last game as scum, but I have a hard time taking that seriously. I doubt it was ever meant as an actual case; it's either to discredit pressure on Keirathi at the time or discredit me attacking VE or just to appear active. The odder thing about the case IMO is that I actually thought these points + Show Spoiler + On April 06 2013 09:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Asking people whether you can sheep them isn't exactly the height of taking responsibility. Antagonizing people that refuse to play along with your plan because they want to approach the game in a different way, single line comments about players you find suspicious then asking other people what they think about them rather than fleshing out your own opinion, all the while focussing on your own plan. I'd rather you reply to the mini case I made though as it contains the stronger points. The sixth point I think is actually the most damning. That is essentially how I slid through the last game. Granted this point is moot if you're scum. Overall the case isn't bad, I prefer the Rayn case. I want to get some sleep before I reread everything tomorrow. | ||
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On April 07 2013 04:50 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh cool, and you want to out my role to the thread. Neat. Seriously fuck this game. Lead me to believe that he chose it. Now, there is nothing alignment indicative of VE choosing NRA member, but having proceeded to do nothing to come across as townie in the least made me extra suspicious. NRA member is a role that's exceptionally dangerous in scum hands because it prevents Investigations and Vigilante shots AND kills the offending player. As town, it could be exceptionally good as it can prevent opposing targetted KP (except as I read it the 1 per night scum KP). Considering VE's actions to not try in the slightest, I have to warn you guys about aiming towards him. More importantly, it leads to actively trying to draw investigations and town KP his direction in order to gain faux KP. When you add VE's general disinterest with this motivation the only conclusion I can come to is him being scum. ##vote VE | ||
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