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On April 05 2013 11:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Y U so scim?
I still don't know.
You haven't said.
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On April 05 2013 11:20 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 11:15 Restraining Order wrote:
These 5 players picked [8] as their first numbers.
This means, at least 4 of those 5 are town. I know Im town, even though my [8] was RNG. So; yam finds palmar suspicious I find austinmcc suspicious Who in that list is your "?certain?' scum read.
Nobody yet.
See how I said "at least 4 of 5". That does not preclude "5 of 5".
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On April 05 2013 11:25 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 11:15 Restraining Order wrote:gonzaw
Austinmcc
Keirathi
Palmar
Mocsta These 5 players picked [8] as their first numbers. This means, at least 4 of those 5 are town. Fucking boggle? You do realize that 3 of the 5 scum in PYP: Insane picked [9] for the first number right? What's with people using terrible heuristics for calling people town?
It's a really good heuristic.
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On April 05 2013 11:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
thank god im allowed to pick a role that kills thme both.
Pick assassin and try to kill me with [RED] please.
That way I don't actually die to your stupidity.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'll stop reading your posts henceforth.
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On April 05 2013 22:18 Caller wrote:
i think everybody should claim their numbers now. I will shoot anybody who fails to do so.
Why don't you claim picking [6][1]?
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On April 05 2013 22:32 Restraining Order wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 22:18 Caller wrote:
i think everybody should claim their numbers now. I will shoot anybody who fails to do so. Why don't you claim picking [6][1]?
Wait, nvm, you picked the same first number as Snb, not me.
all wrong
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On April 05 2013 22:42 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 22:33 Restraining Order wrote:On April 05 2013 22:32 Restraining Order wrote:On April 05 2013 22:18 Caller wrote:
i think everybody should claim their numbers now. I will shoot anybody who fails to do so. Why don't you claim picking [6][1]? Wait, nvm, you picked the same first number as Snb, not me. all wrong wait, how do you know all this?
basic math and shit.
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This is roughly where it stands, I didn't dig through to get all the second numbers for the 8's and 11's, but those don't matter that much.
Sn0_man - 1, 1? could theoretically also be 2 or 3 I guess, but no reason to disbelieve it.
obviousone - 234?
Raynpelikoneet - 5, 1
Sinani206 - 7, 2
Visceraeyes - 10, 10
Geript - something huge, 18, 12? can't remember
strongandbig - 234? same first as caller
Caller - 234? same first as snb, larger second
restraining order - 6, 2
Meapak_ziphh - 6, 3+
artanis[xp] - 11
sharrant - 11
gonzaw - 8
Austinmcc - 8
Keirathi - 8
Palmar - 8
Mocsta - 8
Shelvocke - 8
Deconduo - 8
Vivax - 8, 1
Oatmaster - 8, 1
billmurray - either 8 or didn't send
Yamato77 - not sent, tried 11
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On April 05 2013 22:54 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 22:50 Restraining Order wrote:
This is roughly where it stands, I didn't dig through to get all the second numbers for the 8's and 11's, but those don't matter that much.
Sn0_man - 1, 1? could theoretically also be 2 or 3 I guess, but no reason to disbelieve it.
obviousone - 234?
Raynpelikoneet - 5, 1
Sinani206 - 7, 2
Visceraeyes - 10, 10
Geript - something huge, 18, 12? can't remember
strongandbig - 234? same first as caller
Caller - 234? same first as snb, larger second
restraining order - 6, 2
Meapak_ziphh - 6, 3+
artanis[xp] - 11
sharrant - 11
gonzaw - 8
Austinmcc - 8
Keirathi - 8
Palmar - 8
Mocsta - 8
Shelvocke - 8
Deconduo - 8
Vivax - 8, 1
Oatmaster - 8, 1
billmurray - either 8 or didn't send
Yamato77 - not sent, tried 11 couldn't snb have picked 19 or 20? and meapak would have picked 11, no?
Yeah.
You could also both be [1, 1], sno, 2 or 3, obvious 3 or 4.
etc etc.
Not enough claims to make the list 100% foolproof true.
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On April 05 2013 23:03 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 22:57 Restraining Order wrote:On April 05 2013 22:54 Caller wrote:On April 05 2013 22:50 Restraining Order wrote:
This is roughly where it stands, I didn't dig through to get all the second numbers for the 8's and 11's, but those don't matter that much.
Sn0_man - 1, 1? could theoretically also be 2 or 3 I guess, but no reason to disbelieve it.
obviousone - 234?
Raynpelikoneet - 5, 1
Sinani206 - 7, 2
Visceraeyes - 10, 10
Geript - something huge, 18, 12? can't remember
strongandbig - 234? same first as caller
Caller - 234? same first as snb, larger second
restraining order - 6, 2
Meapak_ziphh - 6, 3+
artanis[xp] - 11
sharrant - 11
gonzaw - 8
Austinmcc - 8
Keirathi - 8
Palmar - 8
Mocsta - 8
Shelvocke - 8
Deconduo - 8
Vivax - 8, 1
Oatmaster - 8, 1
billmurray - either 8 or didn't send
Yamato77 - not sent, tried 11 couldn't snb have picked 19 or 20? and meapak would have picked 11, no? Yeah. You could also both be [1, 1], sno, 2 or 3, obvious 3 or 4. etc etc. Not enough claims to make the list 100% foolproof true. you seem awfully sure meapakk was 6 tho
You seem awfully unwilling to say what you picked yourself.
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On April 05 2013 23:14 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 23:05 Restraining Order wrote:On April 05 2013 23:03 Caller wrote:On April 05 2013 22:57 Restraining Order wrote:On April 05 2013 22:54 Caller wrote:On April 05 2013 22:50 Restraining Order wrote:
This is roughly where it stands, I didn't dig through to get all the second numbers for the 8's and 11's, but those don't matter that much.
Sn0_man - 1, 1? could theoretically also be 2 or 3 I guess, but no reason to disbelieve it.
obviousone - 234?
Raynpelikoneet - 5, 1
Sinani206 - 7, 2
Visceraeyes - 10, 10
Geript - something huge, 18, 12? can't remember
strongandbig - 234? same first as caller
Caller - 234? same first as snb, larger second
restraining order - 6, 2
Meapak_ziphh - 6, 3+
artanis[xp] - 11
sharrant - 11
gonzaw - 8
Austinmcc - 8
Keirathi - 8
Palmar - 8
Mocsta - 8
Shelvocke - 8
Deconduo - 8
Vivax - 8, 1
Oatmaster - 8, 1
billmurray - either 8 or didn't send
Yamato77 - not sent, tried 11 couldn't snb have picked 19 or 20? and meapak would have picked 11, no? Yeah. You could also both be [1, 1], sno, 2 or 3, obvious 3 or 4. etc etc. Not enough claims to make the list 100% foolproof true. you seem awfully sure meapakk was 6 tho You seem awfully unwilling to say what you picked yourself. because its more fun this way answer the question tho and other people better claim numbers before i start shooting.
What is there to answer?
I said it's not a 100% list and only a rough outline twice now, I don't think saying it a third time will fare any better, but I suppose I just did say it a third time, so there you go.
Have fun shooting yourself.
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On April 05 2013 23:17 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 23:15 Restraining Order wrote:On April 05 2013 23:14 Caller wrote:On April 05 2013 23:05 Restraining Order wrote:On April 05 2013 23:03 Caller wrote:On April 05 2013 22:57 Restraining Order wrote:On April 05 2013 22:54 Caller wrote:On April 05 2013 22:50 Restraining Order wrote:
This is roughly where it stands, I didn't dig through to get all the second numbers for the 8's and 11's, but those don't matter that much.
Sn0_man - 1, 1? could theoretically also be 2 or 3 I guess, but no reason to disbelieve it.
obviousone - 234?
Raynpelikoneet - 5, 1
Sinani206 - 7, 2
Visceraeyes - 10, 10
Geript - something huge, 18, 12? can't remember
strongandbig - 234? same first as caller
Caller - 234? same first as snb, larger second
restraining order - 6, 2
Meapak_ziphh - 6, 3+
artanis[xp] - 11
sharrant - 11
gonzaw - 8
Austinmcc - 8
Keirathi - 8
Palmar - 8
Mocsta - 8
Shelvocke - 8
Deconduo - 8
Vivax - 8, 1
Oatmaster - 8, 1
billmurray - either 8 or didn't send
Yamato77 - not sent, tried 11 couldn't snb have picked 19 or 20? and meapak would have picked 11, no? Yeah. You could also both be [1, 1], sno, 2 or 3, obvious 3 or 4. etc etc. Not enough claims to make the list 100% foolproof true. you seem awfully sure meapakk was 6 tho You seem awfully unwilling to say what you picked yourself. because its more fun this way answer the question tho and other people better claim numbers before i start shooting. What is there to answer? I said it's not a 100% list and only a rough outline twice now, I don't think saying it a third time will fare any better, but I suppose I just did say it a third time, so there you go. Have fun shooting yourself. So why don't you repost that list with my suggested correction, no? ^_^
Because that would in no way be more likely to be accurate.
If you want to say you picked 6, say you picked 6.
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On April 05 2013 23:25 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 23:23 Restraining Order wrote:On April 05 2013 23:17 Caller wrote:On April 05 2013 23:15 Restraining Order wrote:On April 05 2013 23:14 Caller wrote:On April 05 2013 23:05 Restraining Order wrote:On April 05 2013 23:03 Caller wrote:On April 05 2013 22:57 Restraining Order wrote:On April 05 2013 22:54 Caller wrote:On April 05 2013 22:50 Restraining Order wrote:
This is roughly where it stands, I didn't dig through to get all the second numbers for the 8's and 11's, but those don't matter that much.
Sn0_man - 1, 1? could theoretically also be 2 or 3 I guess, but no reason to disbelieve it.
obviousone - 234?
Raynpelikoneet - 5, 1
Sinani206 - 7, 2
Visceraeyes - 10, 10
Geript - something huge, 18, 12? can't remember
strongandbig - 234? same first as caller
Caller - 234? same first as snb, larger second
restraining order - 6, 2
Meapak_ziphh - 6, 3+
artanis[xp] - 11
sharrant - 11
gonzaw - 8
Austinmcc - 8
Keirathi - 8
Palmar - 8
Mocsta - 8
Shelvocke - 8
Deconduo - 8
Vivax - 8, 1
Oatmaster - 8, 1
billmurray - either 8 or didn't send
Yamato77 - not sent, tried 11 couldn't snb have picked 19 or 20? and meapak would have picked 11, no? Yeah. You could also both be [1, 1], sno, 2 or 3, obvious 3 or 4. etc etc. Not enough claims to make the list 100% foolproof true. you seem awfully sure meapakk was 6 tho You seem awfully unwilling to say what you picked yourself. because its more fun this way answer the question tho and other people better claim numbers before i start shooting. What is there to answer? I said it's not a 100% list and only a rough outline twice now, I don't think saying it a third time will fare any better, but I suppose I just did say it a third time, so there you go. Have fun shooting yourself. So why don't you repost that list with my suggested correction, no? ^_^ Because that would in no way be more likely to be accurate. If you want to say you picked 6, say you picked 6. why would it not be as accurate? you just said its not 100%. so my version is just as valid, no? just post my suggestion, please. I would like it to be there as I feel it is just as valid as your previous theory, assuming your assumptions are true. im also too lazy to do it myself. not gonna claim yet tho ^_^
How about no.
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On April 06 2013 03:22 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 03:03 Caller wrote:On April 06 2013 03:00 Keirathi wrote:On April 06 2013 02:57 Caller wrote:
Someone asked me why I FOS Keirathi a while back. I'll tell you why. Look at his post history. It's all posts of "being helpful" and "discussing the format" and "lightly criticizing one of these bullshit plans." All typical red-as-fuck mafia scumbaggery. It was shit like that that made me shoot GMarshal Night 0 (whom was a mafia roleblocker that time). And don't forget that since nobody has a role yet, there's absolutely no reason for anybody to be acting like a blue, because there aren't any blues! So if they're fishy and scummy and CLEARLY NOT BLUE, what does this mean? I"ll say it. Keirathi is fucking scum.
Rofl, okay Caller. And how, exactly, is that different from what a townie would do? Are townies never helpful? Do townies not discuss the setup? Do townies not criticize bullshit plans? they do, but they also scumhunt. you haven't even tried to scumhunt. Townies especially don't just pontificate about the setup and try to "win arguments" like your post history shows. due to laziness i'm would rather not bother dissecting it on a case by case basis for the proles, but i will if i have to. But really, over half of the thread hasn't been scumhunting, so why me and not, say, Palmar? deconduo? VE? I can keep listing people, but this conversation is pointless.
And I would lynch all of those people.
On April 06 2013 03:27 gonzaw wrote:
You could say about Keirathi the same as many other players I think (Artanis, austin, ObviousOne some more perhaps) who are still "trying to help" yet not scumhunting in a meaningful way (if not to appear they contribute and stuff), if not just not scumhunting at all.
And I would lynch all of those people.
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I'm not particularily interested in lynching geript.
I'm null on him, and he's not a good lynch in terms of policy either.
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On April 06 2013 08:58 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 08:57 Restraining Order wrote:
I'm not particularily interested in lynching geript.
I'm null on him, and he's not a good lynch in terms of policy either. Alternative then pls? Or are you just planning to cock-block this game?
The ones I noted in my last post before, plus Vivax and sno.
Those are people I am interested in lynching.
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On April 06 2013 09:42 VisceraEyes wrote:VisceraEyes Pre-Dawn Lynch Preference of WrathRestrainingOrder - RestrainingOrder first popped onto my radar in my first readthrough before commenting on Yamato's idea. This post. Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 19:58 Restraining Order wrote:
The thing is denying mafia roles doesn't work too well anyways, and on top of that, if you try to coordinate it, it works even less.
The rolecop-rolevig combo alone has 2-3 possibilities on either end of the deal. (rolecop, capitalist, extractor & assassin, rolevig)
Sure, you might be a hero and get exactly the one they try to pick, but it's a crapshoot, and mafia inherently has the pickorder advantage due to possible coordination.
Rather, think about it like this: certain roles are not desireable for mafia to pick. Those roles, you don't pick early in the draft order. This includes all investigative roles (apart from rolecop), dreamflower, things like that. Not picking those in, say, the upper half, will mean more roles for town overall.
But having VTs is also very informative, so you really don't need to mind either way. Ultimately the logic behind this post is fairly sound. But upon further inspection, you'll find that all it really does is say "planning for the pick phase is futile, and doesn't matter". Why not just say that? Why go to the extra effort of explaining it in the throes of a huge planning session when it's clear it's just going to get ignored by people who are expending effort planning? It's a throw-away post that affects nothing and accomplishes nothing. He proceeds to have a rather meaningless back and forth with rayn, which ultimately ends up with rayn having a scumread on him. Most of it is "You said" "No I didn't". But what I found interesting during this exchange was this post. Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 03:37 Restraining Order wrote:On April 05 2013 03:33 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 05 2013 03:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 05 2013 03:28 Restraining Order wrote:
Ok, you can keep townhunting them townreads if you want, I sent in my numbers already. They shouldn't be too obtrusive to whatever nonsense you'll come up with, so it's okay. This is like a scumclaim. elaborate why not wanting to discuss your plan is scummy please. You must have forgotten, but you also think I'm mafia. What is the town motivation for posting this? Like, assuming RO is town and he doesn't know what Oats' alignment is, what is the point of prodding Oats when he's soft-defending him like that? As scum it could serve to cast doubt on Oats if Oats is town, but what does it do if RO is town? I can't think of anything, and I found this post suspicious as hell as a result. Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 22:50 Restraining Order wrote:
This is roughly where it stands, I didn't dig through to get all the second numbers for the 8's and 11's, but those don't matter that much.
Sn0_man - 1, 1? could theoretically also be 2 or 3 I guess, but no reason to disbelieve it.
obviousone - 234?
Raynpelikoneet - 5, 1
Sinani206 - 7, 2
Visceraeyes - 10, 10
Geript - something huge, 18, 12? can't remember
strongandbig - 234? same first as caller
Caller - 234? same first as snb, larger second
restraining order - 6, 2
Meapak_ziphh - 6, 3+
artanis[xp] - 11
sharrant - 11
gonzaw - 8
Austinmcc - 8
Keirathi - 8
Palmar - 8
Mocsta - 8
Shelvocke - 8
Deconduo - 8
Vivax - 8, 1
Oatmaster - 8, 1
billmurray - either 8 or didn't send
Yamato77 - not sent, tried 11 lolList. Scum. But what about scumreads? Let's find out! Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 03:39 Restraining Order wrote:On April 06 2013 03:22 Keirathi wrote:On April 06 2013 03:03 Caller wrote:On April 06 2013 03:00 Keirathi wrote:On April 06 2013 02:57 Caller wrote:
Someone asked me why I FOS Keirathi a while back. I'll tell you why. Look at his post history. It's all posts of "being helpful" and "discussing the format" and "lightly criticizing one of these bullshit plans." All typical red-as-fuck mafia scumbaggery. It was shit like that that made me shoot GMarshal Night 0 (whom was a mafia roleblocker that time). And don't forget that since nobody has a role yet, there's absolutely no reason for anybody to be acting like a blue, because there aren't any blues! So if they're fishy and scummy and CLEARLY NOT BLUE, what does this mean? I"ll say it. Keirathi is fucking scum.
Rofl, okay Caller. And how, exactly, is that different from what a townie would do? Are townies never helpful? Do townies not discuss the setup? Do townies not criticize bullshit plans? they do, but they also scumhunt. you haven't even tried to scumhunt. Townies especially don't just pontificate about the setup and try to "win arguments" like your post history shows. due to laziness i'm would rather not bother dissecting it on a case by case basis for the proles, but i will if i have to. But really, over half of the thread hasn't been scumhunting, so why me and not, say, Palmar? deconduo? VE? I can keep listing people, but this conversation is pointless. And I would lynch all of those people. On April 06 2013 03:27 gonzaw wrote:
You could say about Keirathi the same as many other players I think (Artanis, austin, ObviousOne some more perhaps) who are still "trying to help" yet not scumhunting in a meaningful way (if not to appear they contribute and stuff), if not just not scumhunting at all. And I would lynch all of those people. Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 08:59 Restraining Order wrote:On April 06 2013 08:58 Mocsta wrote:On April 06 2013 08:57 Restraining Order wrote:
I'm not particularily interested in lynching geript.
I'm null on him, and he's not a good lynch in terms of policy either. Alternative then pls? Or are you just planning to cock-block this game? The ones I noted in my last post before, plus Vivax and sno. Those are people I am interested in lynching. So RO wants to lynch inside [Caller, Palmar, Decon, VE, Kierathi, Artanis, austin, OO, Vivax, sn0] before D1 starts. That's cool I guess, but some of those names sound familiar. Where have I seen those names before? Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 11:15 Restraining Order wrote:gonzaw
Austinmcc
Keirathi
Palmar
Mocsta These 5 players picked [8] as their first numbers. This means, at least 4 of those 5 are town. On April 05 2013 11:13 Mocsta wrote:On April 05 2013 11:09 yamato77 wrote:
I went 11,11
wtf how am I bottom BM musta chose 11,11 too  Not really, sharrant picked 11 as first number too, and is above the 8's. The host likely didn't receive his PM. Oh that's right. In that OTHER post where he made a list and said "4/5 are townies", he wants to lynch 3/5 of them. RestrainingOrder is SCUM and should be the D1 lynch.
lol
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In fact, I'm just going to quote myself on this matter.
On April 05 2013 11:30 Restraining Order wrote:
Pick assassin and try to kill me with [RED] please.
That way I don't actually die to your stupidity.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'll stop reading your posts henceforth.
Wouldn't be a problem if you'd actually think I'm mafia 
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On April 06 2013 10:02 Bill Murray wrote:
VE is town
No.
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On April 06 2013 10:03 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 09:59 Restraining Order wrote:In fact, I'm just going to quote myself on this matter. On April 05 2013 11:30 Restraining Order wrote:
Pick assassin and try to kill me with [RED] please.
That way I don't actually die to your stupidity.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'll stop reading your posts henceforth. Wouldn't be a problem if you'd actually think I'm mafia Except...rayn picks before me doesn't he? I'd just be a lowly peon VT then, with no scum-murdering gun.
Convenient excuses.
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