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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 30 2013 05:03 GMT
#1953
On March 30 2013 13:56 Keirathi wrote:
EBWOP: Also, ignoring Smurf for a minute, what do you think about the points I laid out for why I think Acro is scum?

I thought he was mafia since N1 up until something you wrote that caused me to reply and muck up the thread a bit when I confused the timeline on their accusations. I'm not saying he's definitely town but of the three he looks the least red.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 30 2013 05:33 GMT
#1956
Serious question, if his normal town play is that lacking, how are we supposed to evaluate him?

1. He's been prodding at prplhz since the vote thing.
On March 27 2013 04:30 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 03:53 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Grackaroni


Really?
Generally I wouldn't bring suspicion back this far, but if you have a three post filter at the beginning of day 1 and then ninja-vote halfway through the day, that's pretty suspicious. You could be in the middle of writing some really long analysis, but it's already been 40 minutes, so that's doubtful. What's up, man?

prplhz responds to it reasonable:
On March 27 2013 06:22 prplhz wrote:
@Nisani201 How do you feel about that sinani206 guy?

Somehow translates into some kind of fatal attack on sinani:
On March 27 2013 06:28 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 06:22 prplhz wrote:
@Nisani201 How do you feel about that sinani206 guy?


Question for you: what's your problem with me?

Why blow this simple question out of proportion?

Then he attempted to start a nothing-fight with me, like he's more interested in keeping tabs on the voting thread than in keeping up with the game:
On March 28 2013 06:18 sinani206 wrote:
OO ninja vote with 40 minutes left in the day ok.

I did in fact post in the thread immediately after, and he dropped it just as quickly.

Discouraging people discussing things at night... I just disagree with this completely and maybe it's the meta here that talking at night "gives mafia more information"? Maybe that should change.
On March 29 2013 06:48 sinani206 wrote:
Hapa, please stop encouraging people to post vital information at night time. We have 48 hours to discuss the next lynch.

Like shit, it was what, 12 minutes to night post. Why even comment on it at this point?

Day 2, back on the prplhz train. Calling him trolly. His insinuation that prplhz is somehow being useless to town is the epitome of hypocrisy.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 30 2013 06:06 GMT
#1958
Not sure this conversation is going to get us much further between each other, maybe the drunk one(s) will chime in at some point with something fresh. prplhz seems like a really easy target coming from a really easy target, and I don't think prplhz is more likely to flip mafia than sinani. That's the only scum read we have from him too; where is our promised follow up regarding Dandel?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 30 2013 06:29 GMT
#1960
Okay, I browsed them to get a feel for them. I really don't know. He hasn't done anything (or not done something he should have) to get modkilled. His filter's past the 2 page mark. I guess I'll unvote him. I'm no expert on meta and I'm probably blasting him for not even trying to be a beacon of shining towniness. You win.

What about Acro? I still don't think that both Acro and Smurf are mafia together.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 30 2013 06:35 GMT
#1962
On March 30 2013 15:33 Hapahauli wrote:
Fwiw, acro made his case after I expressed very strongly that Yamato needed to die today

Am I wrong in thinking that both Acro and Smurf can't both be mafia? I'm opening back up to the idea they could be.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 30 2013 06:58 GMT
#1966
On March 30 2013 15:52 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 15:29 ObviousOne wrote:
Okay, I browsed them to get a feel for them. I really don't know. He hasn't done anything (or not done something he should have) to get modkilled. His filter's past the 2 page mark. I guess I'll unvote him. I'm no expert on meta and I'm probably blasting him for not even trying to be a beacon of shining towniness. You win.

What about Acro? I still don't think that both Acro and Smurf are mafia together.

I'm not trying to "win". I just want you to recognize the point that I was making.

So, you looked over the filters. Now, where did Acro get the "I had a quick look at Sinani's town meta (think I only ever played with him as scum) and he seems more useful" sentiment from? Because I just don't see it.

As far as Acro and Smurf being scum together...that's a harder one to answer. Yea, a mutual double bus is uncommon. But it is not completely unheard of (in recent memory, VE and Snarfs went after each other hard on day 1 of Nomination, iirc). There are some mitigating circumstances that make me think it is a possibility here, though.

**isclaimer: everything I'm about to say is in a hypothetical land where Acro and Smurf are both mafia.***

So day 1 ends and night 1 starts. Thread sentiment is turning pretty heavily against Smurf. How should Acro react? Does he try to save his buddy, or does he hard bus for the town cred? Remember, Acro hasn't really been under any major suspicion up until this point. The biggest thing against him was how hard he was pushing for the Nisani mislynch, which isn't alignment indicative in itself.

So, lets say Acro decides to bus. He throws the case out there after everyone is already calling Smurf mafia. Now, if Smurf realizes that he is more than likely going to die (hell, he has me, marv, Hapa, and now his scumbuddy Acro all pushing his case), what should he do in reaction? What helps the scum team out the most? Attacking the townies who are attacking him, attacking a random townie, or attacking his scumbuddy? It seems to me that it wouldn't be a bad play at all for him to OMGUS onto his scum buddy, because when Smurf does flip mafia, the people he spent a ton of time attacking inherently look better because of it.

***End disclaimer***

I'm not saying that is 100% how it happened or anything, but I think it is a reasonable line of thought.

The alternative is so take one of them out of the vote today and wait for flips, but I'm honestly not sure which one I would take out, and who I would replace in. And I'm almost positive that there is at least one scum between the two of them.

IF anything, Sinani looks "more useful" as scum in those few games he rolled mafia.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 30 2013 07:02 GMT
#1967
LOL I just posted that shit in the vote thread. GOGO tabbing.

There's no way smurf is Vivax, I haven't once questioned his sanity.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 30 2013 10:57 GMT
#1975
I'm still around because I'm stupid and drank all of the coffee. It didn't make me smarter though so talk me through it when you get around to it.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 30 2013 11:09 GMT
#1977
Lol
I'm re-reading from after the Nisani lynch to see what sticks out to me so I'll get back to it eventually.

Where in the sweet tits is Dandel?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 30 2013 12:45 GMT
#1984
What about a Keirathi and Cora lynch? It would be amusing killing them together with the double lynch.

I mean while we're entertaining stupid thoughts like lynching Marv we should take it to the max.

Lol
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 30 2013 13:04 GMT
#2001
On March 30 2013 22:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also whats with all these confirming townies.....

OO confirmed marv.

Dandel confirmed OO.

What.




You just jelly I had no way to confirm you yet.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 30 2013 13:05 GMT
#2002
On March 30 2013 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Maybe they are all scum?

Haters.

They gonna hate.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
April 04 2013 12:51 GMT
#3008
Most of my thoughts about the game are in the Obs qt including how I figured out Marv was town.

Fun game, lots of interesting roles. Probably could bump this up a few players and make it even more chaotic/fun!

Thanks to Kurumi for being Polish and hosting.

Thanks to everyone for an interesting game.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
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