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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 13:26 GMT
#861
On March 27 2013 22:25 Palmar wrote:
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On March 27 2013 21:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:37 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:31 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:19 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 20:26 Palmar wrote:
Strange the shot didn't get claimed huh?

I'd imagine both factions would want to take credit for the kill, seeing as I was putting pressure on Grack. Since no one claimed the shot I'm going to assume it's a scum-shot. I don't think any townie would be this stupid, and there is a clear scum motivation to shooting Grack.


Which is?

A townie motivation would be to use this lynch to lynch someone else instead of Grack and cause more discussion bla bla.

Scum motivation would be to cause confusion? I dont know, please elaborate


Grack was the preliminary lynch, rarely does the person put under pressure on day 1 actually end up on the chopping block. I could give you multiple examples of this. There is no proper townie motivation to shoot the dude who gets put under pressure early in the game.


So you didnt think he was scum?
You dont sound like you were gonna push Grack today.

Now who would you lynch after that weird nk?

And yeah with anonymous vig, scum probably shot but thats not really the point.


No no, at the time I thought Grack was scum, or he was my best read. But I also re-evaluate the actual lynch on the second half of day 2 every time I play. Again, if you want me to I can point you to multiple instances of this.


Lol meta eh?

So do you want to push Dandel Ion's target today? Or someone else?


I haven't decided.

Why are all the influential people so tightfisted with their reads. WHY? ??? ??
Dandel Ion, im sorry this doesnt include you. Or me. Or anyone except palmar and marv


uncertain doesn't mean tightfisted


Tell me about Nisani and prplhz, Palmar.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 13:27 GMT
#862
On March 27 2013 22:22 Acrofales wrote:
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On March 27 2013 21:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:53 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
Alternatively, I could also lynch snb with pleasure.

I'm fine with prpl too.

No longer think Marv is scum? Explain.

It's still the truth that trying to lynch marv d1 is a futile effort because of the fanboy hordes. Not much changed there.
As I already said, I won't be around the ~5 hours leading up to the lynch, so even if I wanted to push him, I couldn't.

Whatcha thinking bout snb?

I think that SnB qualified his meta quite well:
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On March 26 2013 23:34 strongandbig wrote:
On March 26 2013 14:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 14:15 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 26 2013 14:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dudes.

Why are you ignoring SnB's horrible case on Prp?

##Vote: strongandbig


What makes it scummy as opposed to a stupid townie thing?


Because it was stupid and SnB isnt stupid.

Like somethings you can brush away by saying that this dude is dumb, but some you cant.

It looked like he wanted to try and mislynch prp and now its gone HORRIBLY WRONG.
So he disappears.

Insertsmurfhere is not scum I think although dandel is null for me.
(YAY RANDOM READS OUTTA NOWHERE)

So oats I'm glad you think I'm smart. I'm pretty good at atomic physics, it's true. Seven years ago I also got 36/36 on the ACT and 1600 on the real part of the SAT (fucking writing section). So okay suppose I'm smart.

Do you really think that means I can't make a bad case? Or that I can't think a case is good for reasons that other people disagree with? If you really want me to I can point you to past games where I've made cases that everyone else said were bad. I was town in those games. When I'm sum I don't make bad cases, I just don't make cases.

Do you really think I was settin up to "try to push a prplhz lynch" singlehandedly, in a game with people who have much more "mafia rep" than I do, and who have much more time to put in than I have? That doesn't sound like a "smart" thing to do.

(Pro tip if you look in my filter you can even find out what I was actually doing and why! Treasure hunt!)


While knowing his meta can mean he is changing his meta, as scum he has always been completely disengaged (except WLIIA where he played a pretty damned good scum game). So far I'm not getting that feeling from his filter.

Also regarding Smurf: I have no fucking clue what to say about Smurf at the moment. I thought his case on you was terrible, and it could be terrible scummy. However, he has continued to prove that he has no fucking clue on how to play this game. Does that make him scum? I don't know. Hopefully I'll figure it out soon, but for the moment:

et tu, brute

Fine, we'll lynch Nisani today and worry about Marv tomorrow.

I don't understand where you're going with your meta town(?) read on snb.

Protip: He ISN'T making any cases - not even really bad ones.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 27 2013 13:29 GMT
#863
On March 27 2013 22:26 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 27 2013 22:25 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:37 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:31 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:19 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 20:26 Palmar wrote:
Strange the shot didn't get claimed huh?

I'd imagine both factions would want to take credit for the kill, seeing as I was putting pressure on Grack. Since no one claimed the shot I'm going to assume it's a scum-shot. I don't think any townie would be this stupid, and there is a clear scum motivation to shooting Grack.


Which is?

A townie motivation would be to use this lynch to lynch someone else instead of Grack and cause more discussion bla bla.

Scum motivation would be to cause confusion? I dont know, please elaborate


Grack was the preliminary lynch, rarely does the person put under pressure on day 1 actually end up on the chopping block. I could give you multiple examples of this. There is no proper townie motivation to shoot the dude who gets put under pressure early in the game.


So you didnt think he was scum?
You dont sound like you were gonna push Grack today.

Now who would you lynch after that weird nk?

And yeah with anonymous vig, scum probably shot but thats not really the point.


No no, at the time I thought Grack was scum, or he was my best read. But I also re-evaluate the actual lynch on the second half of day 2 every time I play. Again, if you want me to I can point you to multiple instances of this.


Lol meta eh?

So do you want to push Dandel Ion's target today? Or someone else?


I haven't decided.

Why are all the influential people so tightfisted with their reads. WHY? ??? ??
Dandel Ion, im sorry this doesnt include you. Or me. Or anyone except palmar and marv


uncertain doesn't mean tightfisted


Tell me about Nisani and prplhz, Palmar.


Think I already stated how I feel about prplhz.

Nisani I tend to ignore, same as sinani.
Computer says mafia
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18248 Posts
March 27 2013 13:29 GMT
#864
Oh, and I'm voting alongside Marv, which means I am either wrong about Marv or about Nisani, or Marv is playing tricksy scum.

Fuck this. Nisani is scum. We lynch him, then worry about other people.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 13:31 GMT
#865
On March 27 2013 22:25 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 21:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:51 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 11:01 marvellosity wrote:
Hi Acro, I need you to explain something for me. This in particular.

On March 27 2013 05:08 Acrofales wrote:

There are a bunch of people I think could be scum as well. Cora, Sinani and OO are currently vying for second spot. I just looked over OO's town meta in Fruity and LX and it is very different from his play this game. Far more engaged and discussing things with people, less over-analysing and vague reads.


I played in Fruity and Obvious made a grand total of about 10 posts on Day 1 there. Most of them trolling in a nonsensical fashion and in fact not engaging with people at all. I also found him scummy in LX on Day 1 (OO can verify this). You seem to be asserting the opposite, why?

Like... what the hell am I reading. You are defending Marv based on a meta read that he DIRECTLY contradicts. You can see Marv thinking this game is more similar because OO is more active here, when his OWN impression of Fruity was that OO was an inactive, unengaged troll.


Marv was questioning your meta read on OO from fruity and LX

Marv saw uninterested, scummy looking OO from Fruity and LX
You didnt.

He wanted to know where you are coming from, because he didnt see what you saw on day 1 of those games.


1. That's not what I asked.
2. You're not who I asked.
3. You haven't said what you think of Marv.

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU BOTHER MAKING THIS POST?

No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 13:31 GMT
#866
On March 27 2013 22:29 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 22:26 marvellosity wrote:
On March 27 2013 22:25 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:37 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:31 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:19 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
[quote]

Which is?

A townie motivation would be to use this lynch to lynch someone else instead of Grack and cause more discussion bla bla.

Scum motivation would be to cause confusion? I dont know, please elaborate


Grack was the preliminary lynch, rarely does the person put under pressure on day 1 actually end up on the chopping block. I could give you multiple examples of this. There is no proper townie motivation to shoot the dude who gets put under pressure early in the game.


So you didnt think he was scum?
You dont sound like you were gonna push Grack today.

Now who would you lynch after that weird nk?

And yeah with anonymous vig, scum probably shot but thats not really the point.


No no, at the time I thought Grack was scum, or he was my best read. But I also re-evaluate the actual lynch on the second half of day 2 every time I play. Again, if you want me to I can point you to multiple instances of this.


Lol meta eh?

So do you want to push Dandel Ion's target today? Or someone else?


I haven't decided.

Why are all the influential people so tightfisted with their reads. WHY? ??? ??
Dandel Ion, im sorry this doesnt include you. Or me. Or anyone except palmar and marv


uncertain doesn't mean tightfisted


Tell me about Nisani and prplhz, Palmar.


Think I already stated how I feel about prplhz.

Nisani I tend to ignore, same as sinani.


Quite a long time ago (re: prplhz). Why don't you come lynch Nisani with me, I'll give you a shoulder rub too.

Acro, leave my little Oatsicle alone </3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 13:31 GMT
#867
On March 27 2013 22:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 22:25 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:51 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 11:01 marvellosity wrote:
Hi Acro, I need you to explain something for me. This in particular.

On March 27 2013 05:08 Acrofales wrote:

There are a bunch of people I think could be scum as well. Cora, Sinani and OO are currently vying for second spot. I just looked over OO's town meta in Fruity and LX and it is very different from his play this game. Far more engaged and discussing things with people, less over-analysing and vague reads.


I played in Fruity and Obvious made a grand total of about 10 posts on Day 1 there. Most of them trolling in a nonsensical fashion and in fact not engaging with people at all. I also found him scummy in LX on Day 1 (OO can verify this). You seem to be asserting the opposite, why?

Like... what the hell am I reading. You are defending Marv based on a meta read that he DIRECTLY contradicts. You can see Marv thinking this game is more similar because OO is more active here, when his OWN impression of Fruity was that OO was an inactive, unengaged troll.


Marv was questioning your meta read on OO from fruity and LX

Marv saw uninterested, scummy looking OO from Fruity and LX
You didnt.

He wanted to know where you are coming from, because he didnt see what you saw on day 1 of those games.


1. That's not what I asked.
2. You're not who I asked.
3. You haven't said what you think of Marv.

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU BOTHER MAKING THIS POST?


A backwards poet writes inverse.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 27 2013 13:32 GMT
#868
On March 27 2013 22:20 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 27 2013 22:19 prplhz wrote:
No but I didn't want to write something big. The "softpushing" (whatever the fuck that is since that's apparently what also makes me scum) and "going with the flow" is something I remember from him from our last game (which was like a year ago so bear with me while I check up on it even though I don't really want to reread that game because I messed up royally). That seems to be the biggest points. I like your argument about the scumbait/InsertSmurfHere/strongandbig thing but I don't think it's damning.


It would be much better if you accepted the strength of the argument rather than arguing me off my scumread like you did in Clothes Mafia

Kind of unfair to blame for me changing your opinion Also, I'm not smurfing this time so you know not to listen to me.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 13:33 GMT
#869
On March 27 2013 22:25 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 21:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:51 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 11:01 marvellosity wrote:
Hi Acro, I need you to explain something for me. This in particular.

On March 27 2013 05:08 Acrofales wrote:

There are a bunch of people I think could be scum as well. Cora, Sinani and OO are currently vying for second spot. I just looked over OO's town meta in Fruity and LX and it is very different from his play this game. Far more engaged and discussing things with people, less over-analysing and vague reads.


I played in Fruity and Obvious made a grand total of about 10 posts on Day 1 there. Most of them trolling in a nonsensical fashion and in fact not engaging with people at all. I also found him scummy in LX on Day 1 (OO can verify this). You seem to be asserting the opposite, why?

Like... what the hell am I reading. You are defending Marv based on a meta read that he DIRECTLY contradicts. You can see Marv thinking this game is more similar because OO is more active here, when his OWN impression of Fruity was that OO was an inactive, unengaged troll.


Marv was questioning your meta read on OO from fruity and LX

Marv saw uninterested, scummy looking OO from Fruity and LX
You didnt.

He wanted to know where you are coming from, because he didnt see what you saw on day 1 of those games.


1. That's not what I asked.
2. You're not who I asked.
3. You haven't said what you think of Marv.

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU BOTHER MAKING THIS POST?


Sorry refreshed page lost everything.

I didnt answer your question.

The reason why I made that post was because you seem to be struggling with marv's question on how you saw a different OO from those games.

What provoked this response? Did you get so angry reading my post that you couldnt control your fingers?

Marv is probably town.
No gg, No skill.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 13:35 GMT
#870
Since we're now 15, we only need 8 people to lynch, correct?
A backwards poet writes inverse.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 13:40 GMT
#871
Oats, who do you want to lynch?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 13:43 GMT
#872
On March 27 2013 22:40 marvellosity wrote:
Oats, who do you want to lynch?


I dont know.
Hmm.

Like nisani is scummy, but there are players that are scummy as town too.

SO IM WISHYWASHY AS FUCK AND CANT MAKE A DECISION. Or find scum. Hmm.

I kinda want Palmar to die though.

No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 13:43 GMT
#873
On March 27 2013 22:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 22:40 marvellosity wrote:
Oats, who do you want to lynch?


I dont know.
Hmm.

Like nisani is scummy, but there are players that are scummy as town too.

SO IM WISHYWASHY AS FUCK AND CANT MAKE A DECISION. Or find scum. Hmm.

I kinda want Palmar to die though.



Then explain your Palmar read to me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 13:51 GMT
#874
He was wrong about Grack and I was right.
That should not happen.

He pushes Grack 100% day 1, like when he is in the thread, thats basically most of what he talks about aside from smurfs bad case and stuff surrounding that.
On March 27 2013 09:04 Palmar wrote:
@Acrofales at the beginning of the game you claimed vanilla townie. Would you consider it fair that we lynch you if you at any point claim any other role in the game? If not, would you consider retracting your claim?

Really fucking weird post. Its just weird. Like what.

On March 27 2013 09:36 Palmar wrote:
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On March 27 2013 09:25 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 09:04 Palmar wrote:
@Acrofales at the beginning of the game you claimed vanilla townie. Would you consider it fair that we lynch you if you at any point claim any other role in the game? If not, would you consider retracting your claim?

I would not consider it fair, no. I also see no reason to retract that claim. Why are you bluefishing?

That question is so stupid, just like your claim. Since I think you're town, yet you're playing like an idiot I'm just going to ignore you for the rest of the game since you're clearly not capable of playing well.

I know Palmar is arrogent but what in the world is this. Day 1 is not over. Way overreaction.
On March 27 2013 21:19 Palmar wrote:
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On March 27 2013 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 20:26 Palmar wrote:
Strange the shot didn't get claimed huh?

I'd imagine both factions would want to take credit for the kill, seeing as I was putting pressure on Grack. Since no one claimed the shot I'm going to assume it's a scum-shot. I don't think any townie would be this stupid, and there is a clear scum motivation to shooting Grack.


Which is?
A townie motivation would be to use this lynch to lynch someone else instead of Grack and cause more discussion bla bla.

Scum motivation would be to cause confusion? I dont know, please elaborate


Grack was the preliminary lynch, rarely does the person put under pressure on day 1 actually end up on the chopping block. I could give you multiple examples of this. There is no proper townie motivation to shoot the dude who gets put under pressure early in the game.


Ok so Grack was basically the only thing Palmar pushed day 1 right?
This reads like Palmar wasnt sure/expected himself to find another read. Which isnt inline with his mentality before the dayvig.

So some scummy stuff about Palmar.

I dont see much point in putting down a vote at this time.
Do you?

No gg, No skill.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18248 Posts
March 27 2013 13:51 GMT
#875
On March 27 2013 22:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 22:25 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:51 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 11:01 marvellosity wrote:
Hi Acro, I need you to explain something for me. This in particular.

On March 27 2013 05:08 Acrofales wrote:

There are a bunch of people I think could be scum as well. Cora, Sinani and OO are currently vying for second spot. I just looked over OO's town meta in Fruity and LX and it is very different from his play this game. Far more engaged and discussing things with people, less over-analysing and vague reads.


I played in Fruity and Obvious made a grand total of about 10 posts on Day 1 there. Most of them trolling in a nonsensical fashion and in fact not engaging with people at all. I also found him scummy in LX on Day 1 (OO can verify this). You seem to be asserting the opposite, why?

Like... what the hell am I reading. You are defending Marv based on a meta read that he DIRECTLY contradicts. You can see Marv thinking this game is more similar because OO is more active here, when his OWN impression of Fruity was that OO was an inactive, unengaged troll.


Marv was questioning your meta read on OO from fruity and LX

Marv saw uninterested, scummy looking OO from Fruity and LX
You didnt.

He wanted to know where you are coming from, because he didnt see what you saw on day 1 of those games.


1. That's not what I asked.
2. You're not who I asked.
3. You haven't said what you think of Marv.

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU BOTHER MAKING THIS POST?


Sorry refreshed page lost everything.

I didnt answer your question.

The reason why I made that post was because you seem to be struggling with marv's question on how you saw a different OO from those games.

What provoked this response? Did you get so angry reading my post that you couldnt control your fingers?

Marv is probably town.

Mainly to get your opinion on Marv, and to ensure that Hapa doesn't think he can just skip the question because you answered it for him. Can you elaborate on your town read on Marv?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 13:55 GMT
#876
On March 27 2013 22:51 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 22:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 22:25 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:51 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 11:01 marvellosity wrote:
Hi Acro, I need you to explain something for me. This in particular.

On March 27 2013 05:08 Acrofales wrote:

There are a bunch of people I think could be scum as well. Cora, Sinani and OO are currently vying for second spot. I just looked over OO's town meta in Fruity and LX and it is very different from his play this game. Far more engaged and discussing things with people, less over-analysing and vague reads.


I played in Fruity and Obvious made a grand total of about 10 posts on Day 1 there. Most of them trolling in a nonsensical fashion and in fact not engaging with people at all. I also found him scummy in LX on Day 1 (OO can verify this). You seem to be asserting the opposite, why?

Like... what the hell am I reading. You are defending Marv based on a meta read that he DIRECTLY contradicts. You can see Marv thinking this game is more similar because OO is more active here, when his OWN impression of Fruity was that OO was an inactive, unengaged troll.


Marv was questioning your meta read on OO from fruity and LX

Marv saw uninterested, scummy looking OO from Fruity and LX
You didnt.

He wanted to know where you are coming from, because he didnt see what you saw on day 1 of those games.


1. That's not what I asked.
2. You're not who I asked.
3. You haven't said what you think of Marv.

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU BOTHER MAKING THIS POST?


Sorry refreshed page lost everything.

I didnt answer your question.

The reason why I made that post was because you seem to be struggling with marv's question on how you saw a different OO from those games.

What provoked this response? Did you get so angry reading my post that you couldnt control your fingers?

Marv is probably town.

Mainly to get your opinion on Marv, and to ensure that Hapa doesn't think he can just skip the question because you answered it for him. Can you elaborate on your town read on Marv?


He is doing jackshit.
Basically. Feels a lot like hydra.
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 13:55 GMT
#877
On March 27 2013 22:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
He was wrong about Grack and I was right.
That should not happen.

He pushes Grack 100% day 1, like when he is in the thread, thats basically most of what he talks about aside from smurfs bad case and stuff surrounding that.
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 09:04 Palmar wrote:
@Acrofales at the beginning of the game you claimed vanilla townie. Would you consider it fair that we lynch you if you at any point claim any other role in the game? If not, would you consider retracting your claim?

Really fucking weird post. Its just weird. Like what.

Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 09:36 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 09:25 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 09:04 Palmar wrote:
@Acrofales at the beginning of the game you claimed vanilla townie. Would you consider it fair that we lynch you if you at any point claim any other role in the game? If not, would you consider retracting your claim?

I would not consider it fair, no. I also see no reason to retract that claim. Why are you bluefishing?

That question is so stupid, just like your claim. Since I think you're town, yet you're playing like an idiot I'm just going to ignore you for the rest of the game since you're clearly not capable of playing well.

I know Palmar is arrogent but what in the world is this. Day 1 is not over. Way overreaction.
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On March 27 2013 21:19 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 20:26 Palmar wrote:
Strange the shot didn't get claimed huh?

I'd imagine both factions would want to take credit for the kill, seeing as I was putting pressure on Grack. Since no one claimed the shot I'm going to assume it's a scum-shot. I don't think any townie would be this stupid, and there is a clear scum motivation to shooting Grack.


Which is?
A townie motivation would be to use this lynch to lynch someone else instead of Grack and cause more discussion bla bla.

Scum motivation would be to cause confusion? I dont know, please elaborate


Grack was the preliminary lynch, rarely does the person put under pressure on day 1 actually end up on the chopping block. I could give you multiple examples of this. There is no proper townie motivation to shoot the dude who gets put under pressure early in the game.


Ok so Grack was basically the only thing Palmar pushed day 1 right?
This reads like Palmar wasnt sure/expected himself to find another read. Which isnt inline with his mentality before the dayvig.

So some scummy stuff about Palmar.

I dont see much point in putting down a vote at this time.
Do you?



The thing is, Oats, if Palmar is genuinely your top mafiaread then you need to make a case on him (like this), vote him, and persuade other people to vote for him.

Do you think mafia or town shot Grack? If mafia, and Palmar is mafia, why would his team shoot Palmar's primary push?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 13:59 GMT
#878
On March 27 2013 22:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 22:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
He was wrong about Grack and I was right.
That should not happen.

He pushes Grack 100% day 1, like when he is in the thread, thats basically most of what he talks about aside from smurfs bad case and stuff surrounding that.
On March 27 2013 09:04 Palmar wrote:
@Acrofales at the beginning of the game you claimed vanilla townie. Would you consider it fair that we lynch you if you at any point claim any other role in the game? If not, would you consider retracting your claim?

Really fucking weird post. Its just weird. Like what.

On March 27 2013 09:36 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 09:25 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 09:04 Palmar wrote:
@Acrofales at the beginning of the game you claimed vanilla townie. Would you consider it fair that we lynch you if you at any point claim any other role in the game? If not, would you consider retracting your claim?

I would not consider it fair, no. I also see no reason to retract that claim. Why are you bluefishing?

That question is so stupid, just like your claim. Since I think you're town, yet you're playing like an idiot I'm just going to ignore you for the rest of the game since you're clearly not capable of playing well.

I know Palmar is arrogent but what in the world is this. Day 1 is not over. Way overreaction.
On March 27 2013 21:19 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 20:26 Palmar wrote:
Strange the shot didn't get claimed huh?

I'd imagine both factions would want to take credit for the kill, seeing as I was putting pressure on Grack. Since no one claimed the shot I'm going to assume it's a scum-shot. I don't think any townie would be this stupid, and there is a clear scum motivation to shooting Grack.


Which is?
A townie motivation would be to use this lynch to lynch someone else instead of Grack and cause more discussion bla bla.

Scum motivation would be to cause confusion? I dont know, please elaborate


Grack was the preliminary lynch, rarely does the person put under pressure on day 1 actually end up on the chopping block. I could give you multiple examples of this. There is no proper townie motivation to shoot the dude who gets put under pressure early in the game.


Ok so Grack was basically the only thing Palmar pushed day 1 right?
This reads like Palmar wasnt sure/expected himself to find another read. Which isnt inline with his mentality before the dayvig.

So some scummy stuff about Palmar.

I dont see much point in putting down a vote at this time.
Do you?



The thing is, Oats, if Palmar is genuinely your top mafiaread then you need to make a case on him (like this), vote him, and persuade other people to vote for him.

Do you think mafia or town shot Grack? If mafia, and Palmar is mafia, why would his team shoot Palmar's primary push?


Im inclined to think not scum because he looked like becoming mislynch number 1.

[Speculation Incoming]
The reason why it wasnt claimed its cause
1. Dude flipped town, its embarrassing
2. The dayvig can do it again/has other powers

##Vote: Palmar
Marv why arent you sheeping me?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 27 2013 14:03 GMT
#879
On March 27 2013 22:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 22:51 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 22:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 22:25 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:51 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 11:01 marvellosity wrote:
Hi Acro, I need you to explain something for me. This in particular.

On March 27 2013 05:08 Acrofales wrote:

There are a bunch of people I think could be scum as well. Cora, Sinani and OO are currently vying for second spot. I just looked over OO's town meta in Fruity and LX and it is very different from his play this game. Far more engaged and discussing things with people, less over-analysing and vague reads.


I played in Fruity and Obvious made a grand total of about 10 posts on Day 1 there. Most of them trolling in a nonsensical fashion and in fact not engaging with people at all. I also found him scummy in LX on Day 1 (OO can verify this). You seem to be asserting the opposite, why?

Like... what the hell am I reading. You are defending Marv based on a meta read that he DIRECTLY contradicts. You can see Marv thinking this game is more similar because OO is more active here, when his OWN impression of Fruity was that OO was an inactive, unengaged troll.


Marv was questioning your meta read on OO from fruity and LX

Marv saw uninterested, scummy looking OO from Fruity and LX
You didnt.

He wanted to know where you are coming from, because he didnt see what you saw on day 1 of those games.


1. That's not what I asked.
2. You're not who I asked.
3. You haven't said what you think of Marv.

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU BOTHER MAKING THIS POST?


Sorry refreshed page lost everything.

I didnt answer your question.

The reason why I made that post was because you seem to be struggling with marv's question on how you saw a different OO from those games.

What provoked this response? Did you get so angry reading my post that you couldnt control your fingers?

Marv is probably town.

Mainly to get your opinion on Marv, and to ensure that Hapa doesn't think he can just skip the question because you answered it for him. Can you elaborate on your town read on Marv?


He is doing jackshit.
Basically. Feels a lot like hydra.


I meant to say MTG where he hydra'ed there :/
But as far as I can remember, he was useless day 1 in hydra.
And in chrono trigger. And in duel.

So yeah town.

No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 14:04 GMT
#880
On March 27 2013 22:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 22:55 marvellosity wrote:
On March 27 2013 22:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
He was wrong about Grack and I was right.
That should not happen.

He pushes Grack 100% day 1, like when he is in the thread, thats basically most of what he talks about aside from smurfs bad case and stuff surrounding that.
On March 27 2013 09:04 Palmar wrote:
@Acrofales at the beginning of the game you claimed vanilla townie. Would you consider it fair that we lynch you if you at any point claim any other role in the game? If not, would you consider retracting your claim?

Really fucking weird post. Its just weird. Like what.

On March 27 2013 09:36 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 09:25 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 09:04 Palmar wrote:
@Acrofales at the beginning of the game you claimed vanilla townie. Would you consider it fair that we lynch you if you at any point claim any other role in the game? If not, would you consider retracting your claim?

I would not consider it fair, no. I also see no reason to retract that claim. Why are you bluefishing?

That question is so stupid, just like your claim. Since I think you're town, yet you're playing like an idiot I'm just going to ignore you for the rest of the game since you're clearly not capable of playing well.

I know Palmar is arrogent but what in the world is this. Day 1 is not over. Way overreaction.
On March 27 2013 21:19 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 20:26 Palmar wrote:
Strange the shot didn't get claimed huh?

I'd imagine both factions would want to take credit for the kill, seeing as I was putting pressure on Grack. Since no one claimed the shot I'm going to assume it's a scum-shot. I don't think any townie would be this stupid, and there is a clear scum motivation to shooting Grack.


Which is?
A townie motivation would be to use this lynch to lynch someone else instead of Grack and cause more discussion bla bla.

Scum motivation would be to cause confusion? I dont know, please elaborate


Grack was the preliminary lynch, rarely does the person put under pressure on day 1 actually end up on the chopping block. I could give you multiple examples of this. There is no proper townie motivation to shoot the dude who gets put under pressure early in the game.


Ok so Grack was basically the only thing Palmar pushed day 1 right?
This reads like Palmar wasnt sure/expected himself to find another read. Which isnt inline with his mentality before the dayvig.

So some scummy stuff about Palmar.

I dont see much point in putting down a vote at this time.
Do you?



The thing is, Oats, if Palmar is genuinely your top mafiaread then you need to make a case on him (like this), vote him, and persuade other people to vote for him.

Do you think mafia or town shot Grack? If mafia, and Palmar is mafia, why would his team shoot Palmar's primary push?


Im inclined to think not scum because he looked like becoming mislynch number 1.

[Speculation Incoming]
The reason why it wasnt claimed its cause
1. Dude flipped town, its embarrassing
2. The dayvig can do it again/has other powers

##Vote: Palmar
Marv why arent you sheeping me?


Just like Dirk in Hydra you mean? He was also mislynch #1 and mafia shot him to incriminate me. Due to the anonymity of it, I'm actually inclined to agree with you that it was a town shot. Was it really worth shooting Grack to incriminate Palmar? (that question is mostly rhetorical)

I don't have a mafia-read on Palmar, so I'm not going to sheep you. Sorry broski <3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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