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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 27 2013 01:37 GMT
#681
On March 27 2013 10:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 10:28 ObviousOne wrote:
On March 27 2013 10:15 marvellosity wrote:
Ugh - I retract what I said about over-explained town-read. Palmar actually asked for an explanation about it like that.

Yeah... thanks for pointing this out, this actually runs counter to one of my points against Grackeroni. I am going to take another look at my stance because that was the major reason why I decided to tunnel in. Need to re-evaluate, I'm going to unvote for now and I'll be back in a few hours after raid night is over.

and seriously..... reallly.... Do you even read my posts? I pointed this exact thing out in my post. I said that you didn't read the thread closely or didn't filter Palmar because you would have known that my post on Palmar didn't come out of the blue. and then you came back with "Whereas Grack is literally making shit up about me to get me lynched." But now when Marv says it all of a sudden you notice. And people wonder why I've been less than motivated this game.


Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 02:53 marvellosity wrote:
Grackeroni is an infinitely better lynch than either rayn or Obvious. Obvious isn't playing scared at all which was the overarching theme of his play in Hydra Mafia (even with VE for support).

Acro, I'll check what you said about Nisani when I'm home and have some time later.

Meh I was mostly right. You haven't mentioned anyone else you think is a better lynch.

You didn't quote Palmar in the interaction which would have been useful for when people read your filter. Try to quote people when you respond to them and this will be so much easier to avoid. It's really easy to see that random town read/case on Palmar in your filter without the context of his question and be like "wow, fuck, that's random". Anyway, like I said, back in a few hours.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 01:38 GMT
#682
On March 27 2013 10:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 10:28 ObviousOne wrote:
On March 27 2013 10:15 marvellosity wrote:
Ugh - I retract what I said about over-explained town-read. Palmar actually asked for an explanation about it like that.

Yeah... thanks for pointing this out, this actually runs counter to one of my points against Grackeroni. I am going to take another look at my stance because that was the major reason why I decided to tunnel in. Need to re-evaluate, I'm going to unvote for now and I'll be back in a few hours after raid night is over.

and seriously..... reallly.... Do you even read my posts? I pointed this exact thing out in my post. I said that you didn't read the thread closely or didn't filter Palmar because you would have known that my post on Palmar didn't come out of the blue. and then you came back with "Whereas Grack is literally making shit up about me to get me lynched." But now when Marv says it all of a sudden you notice. And people wonder why I've been less than motivated this game.


Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 02:53 marvellosity wrote:
Grackeroni is an infinitely better lynch than either rayn or Obvious. Obvious isn't playing scared at all which was the overarching theme of his play in Hydra Mafia (even with VE for support).

Acro, I'll check what you said about Nisani when I'm home and have some time later.

Meh I was mostly right. You haven't mentioned anyone else you think is a better lynch.


I'll give you one tip for understanding my play. Don't "read" into my posts what isn't there. I say what I mean to say. In this case, I meant to say that you're a better lynch than rayn or Obvious. If when you say "marv thinks I'm the best lynch in the game" you mean "marv thinks I'm the best lynch out of these 3/16 players" then you would be correct. Because that's what I said.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 27 2013 01:42 GMT
#683
On March 27 2013 10:38 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 10:34 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 27 2013 10:28 ObviousOne wrote:
On March 27 2013 10:15 marvellosity wrote:
Ugh - I retract what I said about over-explained town-read. Palmar actually asked for an explanation about it like that.

Yeah... thanks for pointing this out, this actually runs counter to one of my points against Grackeroni. I am going to take another look at my stance because that was the major reason why I decided to tunnel in. Need to re-evaluate, I'm going to unvote for now and I'll be back in a few hours after raid night is over.

and seriously..... reallly.... Do you even read my posts? I pointed this exact thing out in my post. I said that you didn't read the thread closely or didn't filter Palmar because you would have known that my post on Palmar didn't come out of the blue. and then you came back with "Whereas Grack is literally making shit up about me to get me lynched." But now when Marv says it all of a sudden you notice. And people wonder why I've been less than motivated this game.


On March 27 2013 02:53 marvellosity wrote:
Grackeroni is an infinitely better lynch than either rayn or Obvious. Obvious isn't playing scared at all which was the overarching theme of his play in Hydra Mafia (even with VE for support).

Acro, I'll check what you said about Nisani when I'm home and have some time later.

Meh I was mostly right. You haven't mentioned anyone else you think is a better lynch.


I'll give you one tip for understanding my play. Don't "read" into my posts what isn't there. I say what I mean to say. In this case, I meant to say that you're a better lynch than rayn or Obvious. If when you say "marv thinks I'm the best lynch in the game" you mean "marv thinks I'm the best lynch out of these 3/16 players" then you would be correct. Because that's what I said.

Like honestly why are you saying that I'm the best lynch out of these 3/16 players rather than just saying who you want to lynch/who is the best lynch. What is the point of that? If that's not you saying who you want to lynch than I have absolutely no idea so far who you want to lynch.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 01:43 GMT
#684
On March 27 2013 10:42 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 10:38 marvellosity wrote:
On March 27 2013 10:34 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 27 2013 10:28 ObviousOne wrote:
On March 27 2013 10:15 marvellosity wrote:
Ugh - I retract what I said about over-explained town-read. Palmar actually asked for an explanation about it like that.

Yeah... thanks for pointing this out, this actually runs counter to one of my points against Grackeroni. I am going to take another look at my stance because that was the major reason why I decided to tunnel in. Need to re-evaluate, I'm going to unvote for now and I'll be back in a few hours after raid night is over.

and seriously..... reallly.... Do you even read my posts? I pointed this exact thing out in my post. I said that you didn't read the thread closely or didn't filter Palmar because you would have known that my post on Palmar didn't come out of the blue. and then you came back with "Whereas Grack is literally making shit up about me to get me lynched." But now when Marv says it all of a sudden you notice. And people wonder why I've been less than motivated this game.


On March 27 2013 02:53 marvellosity wrote:
Grackeroni is an infinitely better lynch than either rayn or Obvious. Obvious isn't playing scared at all which was the overarching theme of his play in Hydra Mafia (even with VE for support).

Acro, I'll check what you said about Nisani when I'm home and have some time later.

Meh I was mostly right. You haven't mentioned anyone else you think is a better lynch.


I'll give you one tip for understanding my play. Don't "read" into my posts what isn't there. I say what I mean to say. In this case, I meant to say that you're a better lynch than rayn or Obvious. If when you say "marv thinks I'm the best lynch in the game" you mean "marv thinks I'm the best lynch out of these 3/16 players" then you would be correct. Because that's what I said.

Like honestly why are you saying that I'm the best lynch out of these 3/16 players rather than just saying who you want to lynch/who is the best lynch. What is the point of that? If that's not you saying who you want to lynch than I have absolutely no idea so far who you want to lynch.


I said it because there were people in the thread at the time discussing those 2 lynches in particular. Go back and check.

Your other point that you don't know who I actually want to lynch is valid. Work in progress I'm afraid.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2013 01:59 GMT
#685
On March 27 2013 10:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 10:42 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 27 2013 10:38 marvellosity wrote:
On March 27 2013 10:34 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 27 2013 10:28 ObviousOne wrote:
On March 27 2013 10:15 marvellosity wrote:
Ugh - I retract what I said about over-explained town-read. Palmar actually asked for an explanation about it like that.

Yeah... thanks for pointing this out, this actually runs counter to one of my points against Grackeroni. I am going to take another look at my stance because that was the major reason why I decided to tunnel in. Need to re-evaluate, I'm going to unvote for now and I'll be back in a few hours after raid night is over.

and seriously..... reallly.... Do you even read my posts? I pointed this exact thing out in my post. I said that you didn't read the thread closely or didn't filter Palmar because you would have known that my post on Palmar didn't come out of the blue. and then you came back with "Whereas Grack is literally making shit up about me to get me lynched." But now when Marv says it all of a sudden you notice. And people wonder why I've been less than motivated this game.


On March 27 2013 02:53 marvellosity wrote:
Grackeroni is an infinitely better lynch than either rayn or Obvious. Obvious isn't playing scared at all which was the overarching theme of his play in Hydra Mafia (even with VE for support).

Acro, I'll check what you said about Nisani when I'm home and have some time later.

Meh I was mostly right. You haven't mentioned anyone else you think is a better lynch.


I'll give you one tip for understanding my play. Don't "read" into my posts what isn't there. I say what I mean to say. In this case, I meant to say that you're a better lynch than rayn or Obvious. If when you say "marv thinks I'm the best lynch in the game" you mean "marv thinks I'm the best lynch out of these 3/16 players" then you would be correct. Because that's what I said.

Like honestly why are you saying that I'm the best lynch out of these 3/16 players rather than just saying who you want to lynch/who is the best lynch. What is the point of that? If that's not you saying who you want to lynch than I have absolutely no idea so far who you want to lynch.


I said it because there were people in the thread at the time discussing those 2 lynches in particular. Go back and check.

Your other point that you don't know who I actually want to lynch is valid. Work in progress I'm afraid.

So do you or do you not want to lynch Grack?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2013 02:00 GMT
#686
Fuck you are being wishy-washy about this.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 02:01 GMT
#687
Hi Acro, I need you to explain something for me. This in particular.

On March 27 2013 05:08 Acrofales wrote:

There are a bunch of people I think could be scum as well. Cora, Sinani and OO are currently vying for second spot. I just looked over OO's town meta in Fruity and LX and it is very different from his play this game. Far more engaged and discussing things with people, less over-analysing and vague reads.


I played in Fruity and Obvious made a grand total of about 10 posts on Day 1 there. Most of them trolling in a nonsensical fashion and in fact not engaging with people at all. I also found him scummy in LX on Day 1 (OO can verify this). You seem to be asserting the opposite, why?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 02:02 GMT
#688
On March 27 2013 11:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuck you are being wishy-washy about this.


Thanks! <3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2013 02:04 GMT
#689
[b]##Unvote:
Vote: Grackaroni{/b[
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 02:05 GMT
#690
On March 27 2013 11:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[b]##Unvote:
Vote: Grackaroni{/b[


So, you said Grackeroni was likely town earlier. Or at least the case was bad and "Palmar is on the wrong track".

Let me guess - you think I'm soft defending/attacking my scumbuddy so you're voting for him?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2013 02:05 GMT
#691
##Unvote: ObviousOne
Vote: Grackaroni
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2013 02:06 GMT
#692
On March 27 2013 11:05 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 11:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[b]##Unvote:
Vote: Grackaroni{/b[


So, you said Grackeroni was likely town earlier. Or at least the case was bad and "Palmar is on the wrong track".

Let me guess - you think I'm soft defending/attacking my scumbuddy so you're voting for him?

No, he has failed to do anything productive and i don't find his answers acceptable anymore.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 02:08 GMT
#693
On March 27 2013 11:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 11:05 marvellosity wrote:
On March 27 2013 11:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[b]##Unvote:
Vote: Grackaroni{/b[


So, you said Grackeroni was likely town earlier. Or at least the case was bad and "Palmar is on the wrong track".

Let me guess - you think I'm soft defending/attacking my scumbuddy so you're voting for him?

No, he has failed to do anything productive and i don't find his answers acceptable anymore.


Literally less than 75 minutes ago you said Palmar was on the wrong track with Grack. Now he is your top scumread. You don't think this is a little odd? ^_^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 27 2013 02:12 GMT
#694
Nobody is going to vote OO/Oats/Smurf either way whatever i say. And Grack has not dona anythig useful. I would be okay switching into one of those three or Nisani/prplhz, but nobody is going to listen to me anyways so what the hell. Better to trust people i trust are town then.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18158 Posts
March 27 2013 02:14 GMT
#695
On March 27 2013 11:01 marvellosity wrote:
Hi Acro, I need you to explain something for me. This in particular.

Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 05:08 Acrofales wrote:

There are a bunch of people I think could be scum as well. Cora, Sinani and OO are currently vying for second spot. I just looked over OO's town meta in Fruity and LX and it is very different from his play this game. Far more engaged and discussing things with people, less over-analysing and vague reads.


I played in Fruity and Obvious made a grand total of about 10 posts on Day 1 there. Most of them trolling in a nonsensical fashion and in fact not engaging with people at all. I also found him scummy in LX on Day 1 (OO can verify this). You seem to be asserting the opposite, why?

It doesn't matter what you thought at the time. In fact, I didn't even look at your filter. You made a meta case saying OO was town this game because he wasn't playing like in Hydra, where he was scum. So obviously I looked at that game, and at his recent town games. I don't see how he is playing similar to his town games... if anything, his meta has been more similar to his scum game (which isn't saying much, because it is a single game).

So yeah, I don't see at all how you have a meta town read on OO. And the fact that you had a scumread on OO because he was trolling on D1 as a townie just seems to reinforce the fact that your meta case was complete crap. So once again, how on earth did that town read on OO come about?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 27 2013 02:16 GMT
#696
On March 27 2013 11:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nobody is going to vote OO/Oats/Smurf either way whatever i say. And Grack has not dona anythig useful. I would be okay switching into one of those three or Nisani/prplhz, but nobody is going to listen to me anyways so what the hell. Better to trust people i trust are town then.

lol see what the hell is this. I thought he was town but nobody is going to listen to me so now I'll just vote for town.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 27 2013 02:17 GMT
#697
On March 27 2013 11:14 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 11:01 marvellosity wrote:
Hi Acro, I need you to explain something for me. This in particular.

On March 27 2013 05:08 Acrofales wrote:

There are a bunch of people I think could be scum as well. Cora, Sinani and OO are currently vying for second spot. I just looked over OO's town meta in Fruity and LX and it is very different from his play this game. Far more engaged and discussing things with people, less over-analysing and vague reads.


I played in Fruity and Obvious made a grand total of about 10 posts on Day 1 there. Most of them trolling in a nonsensical fashion and in fact not engaging with people at all. I also found him scummy in LX on Day 1 (OO can verify this). You seem to be asserting the opposite, why?

It doesn't matter what you thought at the time. In fact, I didn't even look at your filter. You made a meta case saying OO was town this game because he wasn't playing like in Hydra, where he was scum. So obviously I looked at that game, and at his recent town games. I don't see how he is playing similar to his town games... if anything, his meta has been more similar to his scum game (which isn't saying much, because it is a single game).

So yeah, I don't see at all how you have a meta town read on OO. And the fact that you had a scumread on OO because he was trolling on D1 as a townie just seems to reinforce the fact that your meta case was complete crap. So once again, how on earth did that town read on OO come about?


No, don't turn this around on me when you failed to answer the basic question I put to you.

You contended that he was "far more engaged and discussing things with people", and I pointed out that in Fruity he literally made 10 posts and didn't interact with anyone at all.

I want you to explain how you came to the conclusion that he was "far more engaged and discussing things with people" in those games that you yourself cited.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 27 2013 02:19 GMT
#698
On March 27 2013 11:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 11:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nobody is going to vote OO/Oats/Smurf either way whatever i say. And Grack has not dona anythig useful. I would be okay switching into one of those three or Nisani/prplhz, but nobody is going to listen to me anyways so what the hell. Better to trust people i trust are town then.

lol see what the hell is this. I thought he was town but nobody is going to listen to me so now I'll just vote for town.

Some people do that when they get frustrated. I think he's frustrated and that's why he's doing it.

@Palmar Why is Acrofales town?
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18158 Posts
March 27 2013 02:27 GMT
#699
On March 27 2013 11:17 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 11:14 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 11:01 marvellosity wrote:
Hi Acro, I need you to explain something for me. This in particular.

On March 27 2013 05:08 Acrofales wrote:

There are a bunch of people I think could be scum as well. Cora, Sinani and OO are currently vying for second spot. I just looked over OO's town meta in Fruity and LX and it is very different from his play this game. Far more engaged and discussing things with people, less over-analysing and vague reads.


I played in Fruity and Obvious made a grand total of about 10 posts on Day 1 there. Most of them trolling in a nonsensical fashion and in fact not engaging with people at all. I also found him scummy in LX on Day 1 (OO can verify this). You seem to be asserting the opposite, why?

It doesn't matter what you thought at the time. In fact, I didn't even look at your filter. You made a meta case saying OO was town this game because he wasn't playing like in Hydra, where he was scum. So obviously I looked at that game, and at his recent town games. I don't see how he is playing similar to his town games... if anything, his meta has been more similar to his scum game (which isn't saying much, because it is a single game).

So yeah, I don't see at all how you have a meta town read on OO. And the fact that you had a scumread on OO because he was trolling on D1 as a townie just seems to reinforce the fact that your meta case was complete crap. So once again, how on earth did that town read on OO come about?


No, don't turn this around on me when you failed to answer the basic question I put to you.

You contended that he was "far more engaged and discussing things with people", and I pointed out that in Fruity he literally made 10 posts and didn't interact with anyone at all.

I want you to explain how you came to the conclusion that he was "far more engaged and discussing things with people" in those games that you yourself cited.

The impression I got from his filter. You call it trolly. I call it relaxed and engaging with people. The real important part is that his play is WORLDS apart from his play this game...

And that you failed to see that despite playing in those games, while I just had a look through the relevant filter and thread sequences.
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Actively engaging in conversation with his fellow players:
On February 26 2013 09:13 ObviousOne wrote:
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On February 26 2013 09:12 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:09 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:07 Promethelax wrote:
1. Vote for me, vote for RNG. I have a 1 in five shot at lynching scum and it will be hilariously awesome,

You gonna include yourself in that RNG dear


If I am allowed to lynch myself day one. Yes. I believe in true RNG.

Tell us more how you plan to transparently execute your randomly generated mislynch!

On February 26 2013 09:46 ObviousOne wrote:
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On February 26 2013 09:42 Restraining Order wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:40 ObviousOne wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:39 Vivax wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Top scum read probably geript at the very moment. His candidacy for mayor seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Guaranteed mislynch from him as either alignment.


And what exactly makes him scum?

I'm living in the moment here. I don't make anything of the WF JJ shenanigans yet. Got asked a question, gave an answer. Ask me about geript again in 23 hours, okay? Promise?

If you say you have a read, you should have... an actual read.

Talk to me about VE. What do you make of his quick in-and-out?

I don't do reads on the fly. You want an actual read from me, you'll need more than 45 minutes of a handful of players talking. Who's to say any mafia are even participating yet?


Relaxed and joking:
On February 26 2013 09:51 ObviousOne wrote:
Color me shocked, someone's ready to vote Chezinu before Chezniu even posts.

On February 26 2013 10:21 ObviousOne wrote:
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On February 26 2013 10:10 The Macho Man wrote:
wow the mayor will be a lucky person yeah a lucky person some where out there will be a lucky person winning a great power a lucky lucky lucky person.

and that person should be me the macho man randy savage becasue comparatively speaking the rest of you people are nothing but garbage to the macho man. Off balance on balance it doesn't matter I'm simply better than you. You people are like pebbles of sand and I'm the entire desert.

Don't bet against the macho man. don't bet against your life.

## Vote the Macho Man

This is the first step to lynching scum because the macho man is simply the best.

I'd kill this one if I had my way.

prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 27 2013 02:29 GMT
#700
If anybody else knows why Acrofales is town I'm also interested in their answers.
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