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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On March 27 2013 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: OO: What makes Grack more scummy than Cora? Cora's seemingly trying to get you to settle on a target with his tunnel and I don't have a good handle on his alignment since he could be serious about lynching you (which I disagree with doing). If I take his vote as intent to lynch then he's looking scummy to me for tunneling my town read. Maybe all you have to do is focus a bit more. He said in the following post that you have attacked 6 people, but that's actually stretching it a bit; perhaps that's how you get your information, via attack rather than discourse. If I assume you do it all via attacks then his argument is that you are being town you. If I assume you combine the two I would really like to see some more general discourse (such as asking me this question) On March 27 2013 00:11 cDgCorazon wrote: Hi. Thanks Mr. Smurf for calling me lurky when I was asleep. If you're going to make silly meta reads on me, it's not going to get you anywhere. In all honesty this thread has still been ridiculously chaotic. After the tragedy that was Personality Mafia, I'm trying to only post when I have thoughts and cases to make. Right now we are just switching from one lynch target to the other and not really getting anything done besides calling each other scum. As much as the hosts love to troll, I don't think that they made everyone scum. Sorry guys. To add my thoughts to the ring, I'm still convinced that Rayn is scum. He's following the thread sentiment to the letter. He's just attacking whoever has the heat at the time. Less than 24 hours into the game, he has already attacked the following people: Prphlz (voted) Me Marv Keir OO (voted) Oats + Show Spoiler + That's 40% of the people in the game... The other problem I have with this is that Rayn is not following through with any of his arguments (besides the OO vote). He's quite content to go after multiple people and not back his sentiments up. It's scummy because he's just trying to look like he is scumhunting, when in reality he is just shitting up the thread and sheeping on whoever is the flavor of the month (or by this thread's standards, flavor of the 10 minutes). That's not town-motivated behavior, it's scummy behavior. ##Vote: Raynpelikoneet If there's any questions for me I'd love to hear them. See if you can change his mind with your actions, he might just be a good candidate for tomorrow if this continues. Whereas Grack is literally making shit up about me to get me lynched. | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
On March 27 2013 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Nisani: Why does Smurf look town now? He never looked scum. The case he made was scumbait, it didn't catch anyone, he backpedaled, and now he's contributing to the thread. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On March 27 2013 04:45 Nisani201 wrote: He never looked scum. The case he made was scumbait, it didn't catch anyone, he backpedaled, and now he's contributing to the thread. Why are you so sure it was a "scumbait" case? Smurf never said "okay, okay. I was faking this case" or anything of the sort. He admitted that he was wrong, but that's a pretty huge difference. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On March 27 2013 04:45 Nisani201 wrote: He never looked scum. The case he made was scumbait, it didn't catch anyone, he backpedaled, and now he's contributing to the thread. Well that's your interpretation and I gotta say, I disagree with it. | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
On March 27 2013 04:47 Keirathi wrote: Why are you so sure it was a "scumbait" case? Smurf never said "okay, okay. I was faking this case" or anything of the sort. He admitted that he was wrong, but that's a pretty huge difference. Well it's possible that he believed the case when he wrote it. I don't think he did, but I can't explain his actions. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On March 27 2013 04:53 Palmar wrote: I think reyn is town Why the long face? Who else do you want to lynch other than Grack? | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On March 27 2013 04:53 Palmar wrote: I think reyn is town yeah same, but I'm not as unhappy about it. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
Yes i am usually quite aggressive, tbh as both alignments. That's my way of getting information, you are right about that. To be honest i don't like the Grack lynch at all. For me it feels like it's an easy lynch on a townie who didn't think what he was posting at the start of the game and now everyone just jumps on him so it's even harder for him to do anything other than defend himself. By your words Grack is doing exactly what Cora is doing - tunneling a townie with made up shit (because, really, Cora has shitty reasons on me - if he read my filter he would for example see why i am suspicious of Oats & Smurf). I think you should look elsewhere than Grack. I personally feel (given that you actually do something that changes my mind on you) Oats/Smurf are most likely to flip scum. I don't like Nisani's post at all (Smurf = town stuff), i don't like prplhz lurking, i don't remember anything about sinani. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On March 27 2013 04:53 Nisani201 wrote: Well it's possible that he believed the case when he wrote it. I don't think he did, but I can't explain his actions. Why do you not think that he believed it when he made it? That's the part I'm confused about. Literally everything his has said about it after-the-fact points to him believing it when he said it, then changing his mind after people pointed out how terrible it was and him doing a bit more research. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
You've said all this shit about how I'm suspicious but you haven't said I'm scummy. There's no way there are as many scum as people you have called suspicious. Where do you draw the line between acting suspicious and acting scummy? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On March 27 2013 04:45 Nisani201 wrote: He never looked scum. The case he made was scumbait, it didn't catch anyone, he backpedaled, and now he's contributing to the thread. Elaborate please. He even defended his case when it was called out. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On March 27 2013 04:59 cDgCorazon wrote: Rayn are you going to call me scum or not? I asked you that about 16 hours ago and you still haven't answered. You've said all this shit about how I'm suspicious but you haven't said I'm scummy. There's no way there are as many scum as people you have called suspicious. Where do you draw the line between acting suspicious and acting scummy? Sorry. I don't think you are scum. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On March 27 2013 04:56 Keirathi wrote: Why do you not think that he believed it when he made it? That's the part I'm confused about. Literally everything his has said about it after-the-fact points to him believing it when he said it, then changing his mind after people pointed out how terrible it was and him doing a bit more research. Following on this, if he didn't believe the case when he made it, as town he should not have posted it. Especially when, as a smurf, he is attempting to bypass meta support against him-- we have to take what he says at face value. Smurf knew this and yet still BS'd in the thread. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
Why did you ask me about him being scum if he wasn't a scum read of yours? | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
To add, it reads to me like you are potentially looking for support on lynching people who are suspicious of you without calling them scum. You are also indirectly defending Grack by having me consider him as a candidate today. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On March 27 2013 05:01 ObviousOne wrote: Why did you ask me about him being scum if he wasn't a scum read of yours? Because as you read me as town i wanted to know why you feel different about Grack/Cora. I explained it in a couple of posts ago. Both of them by your words are attacking a townie with shit, why is Grack sure to be scum but Cora is not? | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
To finish the thought, you're really just defending Grack outright without giving me a proper alternative and I don't like it. | ||
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