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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 26 2013 14:54 GMT
#401
On March 26 2013 23:53 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
No, I was specifically told that I ignored all of Dandel's town games, which I did not. Nor did I ever claim to be the authority on his meta, I simply found similarity between his most recent scum game and this game and drew a hasty conclusion that I have since seen as faulty.

Like I said, my experience with town Dandel is that he does make decent reads that have some sort of logic behind them. I had seen none of that at that point, so I made known my suspicion of him. The jury is still out on that one, but he looks better for having some reason for attacking Marv than he did before.

You understand that that reason is cause 'I dont see any towntells' as opposed to marv is scum cause *post*
Is that a valid reason in your opinion or not?
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 26 2013 14:56 GMT
#402
On March 26 2013 23:46 strongandbig wrote:

Also yeah I've been getting uber shat on but it would be cool if prplhz showed up sometime in the next few hours and posted some stuff. There's quite a lot that he could actually comment on now productively and without unnecessarily cluttering the thread again.


This is still cracking me up. I'm trying not to post unnecessary stuff but I just found it too funny.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18211 Posts
March 26 2013 14:56 GMT
#403
On March 26 2013 23:46 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 21:16 Acrofales wrote:
Because he takes some stuff which is not indicative of alignment at all and calls it scummy.


+ Show Spoiler [keirathi's case post] +
On March 26 2013 15:08 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, I'm much more interested in Grack right now.

I wasn't particularly awed by Palmar's vote/case and Hapa's input, but his interactions afterward have been much worse IMO.


Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 10:56 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 26 2013 10:53 Palmar wrote:
Hello thread.

I have concluded that Grackaroni is scum. Please lynch him.

##Vote Grackaroni

Any reason in particular?


He doesn't call out the bullshit vote. He panics, and questions it to figure out what he did wrong. I don't know any townie who reacts to a random vote on themselves by saying "OH GOD WHAT DID I DO?" Some get mad at the 'bad' play, some ignore it completely, and some vote the person back.

But, even more than that:

Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 11:24 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 26 2013 11:19 Palmar wrote:
If you're town I'm about to mislynch you grack. Do something to convince me you're not scum.

I really don't think you will. Give me something in the thread you want me to respond to and I will give you my opinion. (not much has stood out to me so far).

By the way I'm just curious. Do you remember me from any other games?

He's looking for a way out. He doesn't volunteer information, he wants to know what information Palmar wants, so that he can give the "right" answer, rather than a "real" answer.

And finally:

Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 11:37 Grackaroni wrote:
You are problably town. This is the most interest I've seen you take in scumhunting in a long time. (even though I haven't played recently I've tried to keep reading games.)

I can see why that post may have looked scummy. I didn't make my message clear and it looked like I wasn't giving any opinion. I intended for it to be directed at Sinani because I believe him using that as a reason to push the lynch onto OO is much scummier than OO actually not reading his role PM.

the only hesitation I have (and it's a small one) is that in Werewolves I walked into the pm chat and you (as scum) just said that I was scummy after one line and used pushing me as your way of contributing to the thread. (it's possible that you are looking for me to omgus in a fit of anger and dig my own grave)

Despite this hesitation I do believe your posting is townie and I think you want to scumhunt but some past experiences with you do scare me.


Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 12:56 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 26 2013 12:49 strongandbig wrote:
On March 26 2013 12:45 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like the case on Dandel Ion. He seems to troll regardless of alignment so there's nothing in there that points to him being scum this game as opposed to just anti-town.

@ISH Why didn't you bother to look up a town game of Dandel Ion?


u scum bro?

No..... I know what you dislike. I didn't say anything about what I think of Dandel Ion or ISH in that post. But I wasn't intending to because I haven't drawn any conclusions on them from it. All i am saying is that I dislike the case and for good reason.


The bolded points feel like more "oh crap, I re-read my posts and realize I made some mistakes. Time for damage control". Like, he was already looking back at his posts to see how they LOOKED. His first reaction was to apologize for how they were perceived. THEN he explains himself better. It betrays his mindset of caring about his appearance.



How can you say that this stuff is not alignment indicative? "Caring more about looking townie than actually helping town" is like the *definition* of alignment indicative.

I'm seeing a lot I don't like from acro at the moment.

Also yeah I've been getting uber shat on but it would be cool if prplhz showed up sometime in the next few hours and posted some stuff. There's quite a lot that he could actually comment on now productively and without unnecessarily cluttering the thread again.


Because that's not at all the way I read those posts.

1.
On March 26 2013 10:56 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 10:53 Palmar wrote:
Hello thread.

I have concluded that Grackaroni is scum. Please lynch him.

##Vote Grackaroni

Any reason in particular?

Keirathi says this is a scummy response. I don't see why. Palmar places an unjustified vote, and Grack asks why. Null.

2.
On March 26 2013 11:24 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 11:19 Palmar wrote:
If you're town I'm about to mislynch you grack. Do something to convince me you're not scum.

I really don't think you will. Give me something in the thread you want me to respond to and I will give you my opinion. (not much has stood out to me so far).

By the way I'm just curious. Do you remember me from any other games?

By focusing only on the second sentence, Keirathi transforms the meaning imho. I read it as "BRING IT. Anything in particular you want to talk about?" This doesn't mean he won't talk otherwise. Anyway, insecure people looking for guidance from their town reads is not a scumtell.

Hence: null.

3. Admitting failure. Yeah, still not scum. It's simply an approach to playing the game. Seen plenty of townies, and scummers, do this. Null tell.

And that was the entirety of Keirathi's fantabulous case. Big fucking load of bunk.
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
March 26 2013 14:57 GMT
#404
On March 26 2013 23:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 23:53 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
No, I was specifically told that I ignored all of Dandel's town games, which I did not. Nor did I ever claim to be the authority on his meta, I simply found similarity between his most recent scum game and this game and drew a hasty conclusion that I have since seen as faulty.

Like I said, my experience with town Dandel is that he does make decent reads that have some sort of logic behind them. I had seen none of that at that point, so I made known my suspicion of him. The jury is still out on that one, but he looks better for having some reason for attacking Marv than he did before.

You understand that that reason is cause 'I dont see any towntells' as opposed to marv is scum cause *post*
Is that a valid reason in your opinion or not?

I don't think he's right, obviously. I've seen plenty of town Marv games where Marv doesn't even try to look town. However, it's not if he's right or if I agree with him, it's that he simply justifies what he's doing with something beyond a troll post and seems actually confident in it.

Like his suspicion of me. It's total OMGUS but I don't think he's scum for it.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 14:59 GMT
#405
On March 26 2013 23:53 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
No, I was specifically told that I ignored all of Dandel's town games, which I did not. Nor did I ever claim to be the authority on his meta, I simply found similarity between his most recent scum game and this game and drew a hasty conclusion that I have since seen as faulty.

Like I said, my experience with town Dandel is that he does make decent reads that have some sort of logic behind them. I had seen none of that at that point, so I made known my suspicion of him. The jury is still out on that one, but he looks better for having some reason for attacking Marv than he did before.

Horseshit.

You were doing this: "let's see how scum Dandel normally opens his games!
Oh my that looks similar to this game!
I won't even check any of his town games and call him scum just for the hell of it hey guys look how protown and scumhunting I am!"

Now you do this: "Oh shit I made a terrible case on a townie BACKPEDALBACKPEDAL"
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 26 2013 15:00 GMT
#406
On March 26 2013 23:57 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 23:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:53 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
No, I was specifically told that I ignored all of Dandel's town games, which I did not. Nor did I ever claim to be the authority on his meta, I simply found similarity between his most recent scum game and this game and drew a hasty conclusion that I have since seen as faulty.

Like I said, my experience with town Dandel is that he does make decent reads that have some sort of logic behind them. I had seen none of that at that point, so I made known my suspicion of him. The jury is still out on that one, but he looks better for having some reason for attacking Marv than he did before.

You understand that that reason is cause 'I dont see any towntells' as opposed to marv is scum cause *post*
Is that a valid reason in your opinion or not?

I don't think he's right, obviously. I've seen plenty of town Marv games where Marv doesn't even try to look town. However, it's not if he's right or if I agree with him, it's that he simply justifies what he's doing with something beyond a troll post and seems actually confident in it.

Like his suspicion of me. It's total OMGUS but I don't think he's scum for it.

So if I do stupid shit but wholeheartadly go with it and give some weird reason I am town? What universe do you live in?

Response to Palmers suspicion GOOO
No gg, No skill.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 15:01 GMT
#407
On March 26 2013 23:56 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 23:46 strongandbig wrote:
On March 26 2013 21:16 Acrofales wrote:
Because he takes some stuff which is not indicative of alignment at all and calls it scummy.


+ Show Spoiler [keirathi's case post] +
On March 26 2013 15:08 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, I'm much more interested in Grack right now.

I wasn't particularly awed by Palmar's vote/case and Hapa's input, but his interactions afterward have been much worse IMO.


Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 10:56 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 26 2013 10:53 Palmar wrote:
Hello thread.

I have concluded that Grackaroni is scum. Please lynch him.

##Vote Grackaroni

Any reason in particular?


He doesn't call out the bullshit vote. He panics, and questions it to figure out what he did wrong. I don't know any townie who reacts to a random vote on themselves by saying "OH GOD WHAT DID I DO?" Some get mad at the 'bad' play, some ignore it completely, and some vote the person back.

But, even more than that:

Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 11:24 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 26 2013 11:19 Palmar wrote:
If you're town I'm about to mislynch you grack. Do something to convince me you're not scum.

I really don't think you will. Give me something in the thread you want me to respond to and I will give you my opinion. (not much has stood out to me so far).

By the way I'm just curious. Do you remember me from any other games?

He's looking for a way out. He doesn't volunteer information, he wants to know what information Palmar wants, so that he can give the "right" answer, rather than a "real" answer.

And finally:

Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 11:37 Grackaroni wrote:
You are problably town. This is the most interest I've seen you take in scumhunting in a long time. (even though I haven't played recently I've tried to keep reading games.)

I can see why that post may have looked scummy. I didn't make my message clear and it looked like I wasn't giving any opinion. I intended for it to be directed at Sinani because I believe him using that as a reason to push the lynch onto OO is much scummier than OO actually not reading his role PM.

the only hesitation I have (and it's a small one) is that in Werewolves I walked into the pm chat and you (as scum) just said that I was scummy after one line and used pushing me as your way of contributing to the thread. (it's possible that you are looking for me to omgus in a fit of anger and dig my own grave)

Despite this hesitation I do believe your posting is townie and I think you want to scumhunt but some past experiences with you do scare me.


Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 12:56 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 26 2013 12:49 strongandbig wrote:
On March 26 2013 12:45 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like the case on Dandel Ion. He seems to troll regardless of alignment so there's nothing in there that points to him being scum this game as opposed to just anti-town.

@ISH Why didn't you bother to look up a town game of Dandel Ion?


u scum bro?

No..... I know what you dislike. I didn't say anything about what I think of Dandel Ion or ISH in that post. But I wasn't intending to because I haven't drawn any conclusions on them from it. All i am saying is that I dislike the case and for good reason.


The bolded points feel like more "oh crap, I re-read my posts and realize I made some mistakes. Time for damage control". Like, he was already looking back at his posts to see how they LOOKED. His first reaction was to apologize for how they were perceived. THEN he explains himself better. It betrays his mindset of caring about his appearance.



How can you say that this stuff is not alignment indicative? "Caring more about looking townie than actually helping town" is like the *definition* of alignment indicative.

I'm seeing a lot I don't like from acro at the moment.

Also yeah I've been getting uber shat on but it would be cool if prplhz showed up sometime in the next few hours and posted some stuff. There's quite a lot that he could actually comment on now productively and without unnecessarily cluttering the thread again.


Because that's not at all the way I read those posts.

1.
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 10:56 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 26 2013 10:53 Palmar wrote:
Hello thread.

I have concluded that Grackaroni is scum. Please lynch him.

##Vote Grackaroni

Any reason in particular?

Keirathi says this is a scummy response. I don't see why. Palmar places an unjustified vote, and Grack asks why. Null.

2.
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 11:24 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 26 2013 11:19 Palmar wrote:
If you're town I'm about to mislynch you grack. Do something to convince me you're not scum.

I really don't think you will. Give me something in the thread you want me to respond to and I will give you my opinion. (not much has stood out to me so far).

By the way I'm just curious. Do you remember me from any other games?

By focusing only on the second sentence, Keirathi transforms the meaning imho. I read it as "BRING IT. Anything in particular you want to talk about?" This doesn't mean he won't talk otherwise. Anyway, insecure people looking for guidance from their town reads is not a scumtell.

Hence: null.

3. Admitting failure. Yeah, still not scum. It's simply an approach to playing the game. Seen plenty of townies, and scummers, do this. Null tell.

And that was the entirety of Keirathi's fantabulous case. Big fucking load of bunk.

I like u

But I still won't give you back the fusion dance. That has to be earned properly.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
March 26 2013 15:04 GMT
#408
On March 27 2013 00:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 23:57 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:53 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
No, I was specifically told that I ignored all of Dandel's town games, which I did not. Nor did I ever claim to be the authority on his meta, I simply found similarity between his most recent scum game and this game and drew a hasty conclusion that I have since seen as faulty.

Like I said, my experience with town Dandel is that he does make decent reads that have some sort of logic behind them. I had seen none of that at that point, so I made known my suspicion of him. The jury is still out on that one, but he looks better for having some reason for attacking Marv than he did before.

You understand that that reason is cause 'I dont see any towntells' as opposed to marv is scum cause *post*
Is that a valid reason in your opinion or not?

I don't think he's right, obviously. I've seen plenty of town Marv games where Marv doesn't even try to look town. However, it's not if he's right or if I agree with him, it's that he simply justifies what he's doing with something beyond a troll post and seems actually confident in it.

Like his suspicion of me. It's total OMGUS but I don't think he's scum for it.

So if I do stupid shit but wholeheartadly go with it and give some weird reason I am town? What universe do you live in?

Response to Palmers suspicion GOOO

Palmar is calling me scum because my case is bad, just like the rest of you. I fail to see how it's anything special.

And yes, sometimes people do stupid shit I never agree with and that lets me know they are town. And yes, you are one of them.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 26 2013 15:06 GMT
#409
On March 27 2013 00:04 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 00:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:57 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:53 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
No, I was specifically told that I ignored all of Dandel's town games, which I did not. Nor did I ever claim to be the authority on his meta, I simply found similarity between his most recent scum game and this game and drew a hasty conclusion that I have since seen as faulty.

Like I said, my experience with town Dandel is that he does make decent reads that have some sort of logic behind them. I had seen none of that at that point, so I made known my suspicion of him. The jury is still out on that one, but he looks better for having some reason for attacking Marv than he did before.

You understand that that reason is cause 'I dont see any towntells' as opposed to marv is scum cause *post*
Is that a valid reason in your opinion or not?

I don't think he's right, obviously. I've seen plenty of town Marv games where Marv doesn't even try to look town. However, it's not if he's right or if I agree with him, it's that he simply justifies what he's doing with something beyond a troll post and seems actually confident in it.

Like his suspicion of me. It's total OMGUS but I don't think he's scum for it.

So if I do stupid shit but wholeheartadly go with it and give some weird reason I am town? What universe do you live in?

Response to Palmers suspicion GOOO

Palmar is calling me scum because my case is bad, just like the rest of you. I fail to see how it's anything special.

And yes, sometimes people do stupid shit I never agree with and that lets me know they are town. And yes, you are one of them.

Too many townreads dude.

Who is scum, now that Dandel Ion isnt?
No gg, No skill.
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
March 26 2013 15:08 GMT
#410
On March 26 2013 23:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 23:53 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
No, I was specifically told that I ignored all of Dandel's town games, which I did not. Nor did I ever claim to be the authority on his meta, I simply found similarity between his most recent scum game and this game and drew a hasty conclusion that I have since seen as faulty.

Like I said, my experience with town Dandel is that he does make decent reads that have some sort of logic behind them. I had seen none of that at that point, so I made known my suspicion of him. The jury is still out on that one, but he looks better for having some reason for attacking Marv than he did before.

Horseshit.

You were doing this: "let's see how scum Dandel normally opens his games!
Oh my that looks similar to this game!
I won't even check any of his town games and call him scum just for the hell of it hey guys look how protown and scumhunting I am!"

Now you do this: "Oh shit I made a terrible case on a townie BACKPEDALBACKPEDAL"

In my case on you I clearly said I expected better from you, Dandel. My experience from the first British and Personality is that you aren't just a troll, but as I see you just need time to flower.
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
March 26 2013 15:09 GMT
#411
On March 27 2013 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 00:04 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On March 27 2013 00:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:57 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:53 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
No, I was specifically told that I ignored all of Dandel's town games, which I did not. Nor did I ever claim to be the authority on his meta, I simply found similarity between his most recent scum game and this game and drew a hasty conclusion that I have since seen as faulty.

Like I said, my experience with town Dandel is that he does make decent reads that have some sort of logic behind them. I had seen none of that at that point, so I made known my suspicion of him. The jury is still out on that one, but he looks better for having some reason for attacking Marv than he did before.

You understand that that reason is cause 'I dont see any towntells' as opposed to marv is scum cause *post*
Is that a valid reason in your opinion or not?

I don't think he's right, obviously. I've seen plenty of town Marv games where Marv doesn't even try to look town. However, it's not if he's right or if I agree with him, it's that he simply justifies what he's doing with something beyond a troll post and seems actually confident in it.

Like his suspicion of me. It's total OMGUS but I don't think he's scum for it.

So if I do stupid shit but wholeheartadly go with it and give some weird reason I am town? What universe do you live in?

Response to Palmers suspicion GOOO

Palmar is calling me scum because my case is bad, just like the rest of you. I fail to see how it's anything special.

And yes, sometimes people do stupid shit I never agree with and that lets me know they are town. And yes, you are one of them.

Too many townreads dude.

Who is scum, now that Dandel Ion isnt?

I already told you that Corazon is currently flying under the radar while contributing next-to-nothing aside from random comments on OO' role PM shit.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 15:10 GMT
#412
On March 27 2013 00:08 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 23:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:53 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
No, I was specifically told that I ignored all of Dandel's town games, which I did not. Nor did I ever claim to be the authority on his meta, I simply found similarity between his most recent scum game and this game and drew a hasty conclusion that I have since seen as faulty.

Like I said, my experience with town Dandel is that he does make decent reads that have some sort of logic behind them. I had seen none of that at that point, so I made known my suspicion of him. The jury is still out on that one, but he looks better for having some reason for attacking Marv than he did before.

Horseshit.

You were doing this: "let's see how scum Dandel normally opens his games!
Oh my that looks similar to this game!
I won't even check any of his town games and call him scum just for the hell of it hey guys look how protown and scumhunting I am!"

Now you do this: "Oh shit I made a terrible case on a townie BACKPEDALBACKPEDAL"

In my case on you I clearly said I expected better from you, Dandel. My experience from the first British and Personality is that you aren't just a troll, but as I see you just need time to flower.

And why did you need to make a shitty case to realize this "experience"?
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
March 26 2013 15:11 GMT
#413
Hi. Thanks Mr. Smurf for calling me lurky when I was asleep. If you're going to make silly meta reads on me, it's not going to get you anywhere.

In all honesty this thread has still been ridiculously chaotic. After the tragedy that was Personality Mafia, I'm trying to only post when I have thoughts and cases to make. Right now we are just switching from one lynch target to the other and not really getting anything done besides calling each other scum. As much as the hosts love to troll, I don't think that they made everyone scum. Sorry guys.

To add my thoughts to the ring, I'm still convinced that Rayn is scum. He's following the thread sentiment to the letter. He's just attacking whoever has the heat at the time. Less than 24 hours into the game, he has already attacked the following people:

Prphlz (voted)
Me
Marv
Keir
OO (voted)
Oats

+ Show Spoiler +

That's 40% of the people in the game...


The other problem I have with this is that Rayn is not following through with any of his arguments (besides the OO vote). He's quite content to go after multiple people and not back his sentiments up. It's scummy because he's just trying to look like he is scumhunting, when in reality he is just shitting up the thread and sheeping on whoever is the flavor of the month (or by this thread's standards, flavor of the 10 minutes). That's not town-motivated behavior, it's scummy behavior.

##Vote: Raynpelikoneet

If there's any questions for me I'd love to hear them.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 26 2013 15:11 GMT
#414
On March 27 2013 00:09 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 00:04 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On March 27 2013 00:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:57 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:53 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
No, I was specifically told that I ignored all of Dandel's town games, which I did not. Nor did I ever claim to be the authority on his meta, I simply found similarity between his most recent scum game and this game and drew a hasty conclusion that I have since seen as faulty.

Like I said, my experience with town Dandel is that he does make decent reads that have some sort of logic behind them. I had seen none of that at that point, so I made known my suspicion of him. The jury is still out on that one, but he looks better for having some reason for attacking Marv than he did before.

You understand that that reason is cause 'I dont see any towntells' as opposed to marv is scum cause *post*
Is that a valid reason in your opinion or not?

I don't think he's right, obviously. I've seen plenty of town Marv games where Marv doesn't even try to look town. However, it's not if he's right or if I agree with him, it's that he simply justifies what he's doing with something beyond a troll post and seems actually confident in it.

Like his suspicion of me. It's total OMGUS but I don't think he's scum for it.

So if I do stupid shit but wholeheartadly go with it and give some weird reason I am town? What universe do you live in?

Response to Palmers suspicion GOOO

Palmar is calling me scum because my case is bad, just like the rest of you. I fail to see how it's anything special.

And yes, sometimes people do stupid shit I never agree with and that lets me know they are town. And yes, you are one of them.

Too many townreads dude.

Who is scum, now that Dandel Ion isnt?

I already told you that Corazon is currently flying under the radar while contributing next-to-nothing aside from random comments on OO' role PM shit.


What makes Cora different from the other lurkers like sinani or nisani?
No gg, No skill.
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
March 26 2013 15:13 GMT
#415
On March 27 2013 00:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 00:08 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:53 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
No, I was specifically told that I ignored all of Dandel's town games, which I did not. Nor did I ever claim to be the authority on his meta, I simply found similarity between his most recent scum game and this game and drew a hasty conclusion that I have since seen as faulty.

Like I said, my experience with town Dandel is that he does make decent reads that have some sort of logic behind them. I had seen none of that at that point, so I made known my suspicion of him. The jury is still out on that one, but he looks better for having some reason for attacking Marv than he did before.

Horseshit.

You were doing this: "let's see how scum Dandel normally opens his games!
Oh my that looks similar to this game!
I won't even check any of his town games and call him scum just for the hell of it hey guys look how protown and scumhunting I am!"

Now you do this: "Oh shit I made a terrible case on a townie BACKPEDALBACKPEDAL"

In my case on you I clearly said I expected better from you, Dandel. My experience from the first British and Personality is that you aren't just a troll, but as I see you just need time to flower.

And why did you need to make a shitty case to realize this "experience"?

Because there are times when you call people out for posting like idiots at the start of the game, and this was one of them. I initially thought it might be alignment indicative but I've since been proven wrong. You can fault me for not doing more research, but I did think I was more familiar with you than I was.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 26 2013 15:13 GMT
#416
Oats, you need to stop asking questions that have already been answered. We talked about this.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
March 26 2013 15:14 GMT
#417
On March 27 2013 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 00:09 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On March 27 2013 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 00:04 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On March 27 2013 00:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:57 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:53 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
No, I was specifically told that I ignored all of Dandel's town games, which I did not. Nor did I ever claim to be the authority on his meta, I simply found similarity between his most recent scum game and this game and drew a hasty conclusion that I have since seen as faulty.

Like I said, my experience with town Dandel is that he does make decent reads that have some sort of logic behind them. I had seen none of that at that point, so I made known my suspicion of him. The jury is still out on that one, but he looks better for having some reason for attacking Marv than he did before.

You understand that that reason is cause 'I dont see any towntells' as opposed to marv is scum cause *post*
Is that a valid reason in your opinion or not?

I don't think he's right, obviously. I've seen plenty of town Marv games where Marv doesn't even try to look town. However, it's not if he's right or if I agree with him, it's that he simply justifies what he's doing with something beyond a troll post and seems actually confident in it.

Like his suspicion of me. It's total OMGUS but I don't think he's scum for it.

So if I do stupid shit but wholeheartadly go with it and give some weird reason I am town? What universe do you live in?

Response to Palmers suspicion GOOO

Palmar is calling me scum because my case is bad, just like the rest of you. I fail to see how it's anything special.

And yes, sometimes people do stupid shit I never agree with and that lets me know they are town. And yes, you are one of them.

Too many townreads dude.

Who is scum, now that Dandel Ion isnt?

I already told you that Corazon is currently flying under the radar while contributing next-to-nothing aside from random comments on OO' role PM shit.


What makes Cora different from the other lurkers like sinani or nisani?

I've called them out, too.

Are you reading my filter?
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
March 26 2013 15:15 GMT
#418
On March 27 2013 00:11 cDgCorazon wrote:
Hi. Thanks Mr. Smurf for calling me lurky when I was asleep. If you're going to make silly meta reads on me, it's not going to get you anywhere.

In all honesty this thread has still been ridiculously chaotic. After the tragedy that was Personality Mafia, I'm trying to only post when I have thoughts and cases to make. Right now we are just switching from one lynch target to the other and not really getting anything done besides calling each other scum. As much as the hosts love to troll, I don't think that they made everyone scum. Sorry guys.

To add my thoughts to the ring, I'm still convinced that Rayn is scum. He's following the thread sentiment to the letter. He's just attacking whoever has the heat at the time. Less than 24 hours into the game, he has already attacked the following people:

Prphlz (voted)
Me
Marv
Keir
OO (voted)
Oats

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That's 40% of the people in the game...


The other problem I have with this is that Rayn is not following through with any of his arguments (besides the OO vote). He's quite content to go after multiple people and not back his sentiments up. It's scummy because he's just trying to look like he is scumhunting, when in reality he is just shitting up the thread and sheeping on whoever is the flavor of the month (or by this thread's standards, flavor of the 10 minutes). That's not town-motivated behavior, it's scummy behavior.

##Vote: Raynpelikoneet

If there's any questions for me I'd love to hear them.

How about a read not on rayn? He's kinda the only dude you talk about.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 26 2013 15:16 GMT
#419
On March 27 2013 00:14 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 00:09 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On March 27 2013 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 00:04 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On March 27 2013 00:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:57 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:53 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
No, I was specifically told that I ignored all of Dandel's town games, which I did not. Nor did I ever claim to be the authority on his meta, I simply found similarity between his most recent scum game and this game and drew a hasty conclusion that I have since seen as faulty.

Like I said, my experience with town Dandel is that he does make decent reads that have some sort of logic behind them. I had seen none of that at that point, so I made known my suspicion of him. The jury is still out on that one, but he looks better for having some reason for attacking Marv than he did before.

You understand that that reason is cause 'I dont see any towntells' as opposed to marv is scum cause *post*
Is that a valid reason in your opinion or not?

I don't think he's right, obviously. I've seen plenty of town Marv games where Marv doesn't even try to look town. However, it's not if he's right or if I agree with him, it's that he simply justifies what he's doing with something beyond a troll post and seems actually confident in it.

Like his suspicion of me. It's total OMGUS but I don't think he's scum for it.

So if I do stupid shit but wholeheartadly go with it and give some weird reason I am town? What universe do you live in?

Response to Palmers suspicion GOOO

Palmar is calling me scum because my case is bad, just like the rest of you. I fail to see how it's anything special.

And yes, sometimes people do stupid shit I never agree with and that lets me know they are town. And yes, you are one of them.

Too many townreads dude.

Who is scum, now that Dandel Ion isnt?

I already told you that Corazon is currently flying under the radar while contributing next-to-nothing aside from random comments on OO' role PM shit.


What makes Cora different from the other lurkers like sinani or nisani?

I've called them out, too.

Are you reading my filter?

Um no you didnt?

Anyway weird meta read on cora like 12 hours after the game has started. Good to know.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 26 2013 15:17 GMT
#420
EBWOP:
Hopefully some of the lurkier players like sinani and nisani start posting more.

This is not calling dudes out. This is wishful thinking.
No gg, No skill.
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