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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 26 2013 13:28 GMT
#361
marv what do you think of the cases there are atm?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 26 2013 13:32 GMT
#362
Also i would still have your explanation to this:
On March 26 2013 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have one problem with marv. He pressure voted me early on in the game. When i asked his what's up with the ninja vote, he posted this:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 08:11 marvellosity wrote:
On March 26 2013 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What's with the ninja vote marv?


Just curious how you'd react given you totally overreacted to prplhz. I can join Hapa on his policy lynch though, so you're in luck ^^

##Unvote
##Vote: ObviousOne

If he really thought i overreacted to prplhz why wouldn't he pressure me more? Was the "what's up with the ninja vote" somekinda secret townie answer i gave?

If i was marv and i thought someone overreacted to something and i was already pressuring him, i would definitely keep the pressure on to try to find more clues about their alignment. Here he just completely drops the issue and changes his vote to a policy target (which i do not see serving any purpose in finding mafia).

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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17954 Posts
March 26 2013 13:33 GMT
#363
On March 26 2013 22:12 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 26 2013 21:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 21:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes i propose marv starts playing and exlaining his actions.

I can't understand why people think it's not okay to question certain players because they apparently are some fucking mafia gods who can't be lynched on D1, but it's totally okay to drop "policy votes" on players you find to be less competant. Everyone has a same chance of being mafia based on odds itself and noone is above being questioned or being called out on D1. Simple.

Mainly cause these 'mafia gods' as you called it, dont do shit that leads to them being policy voted?
And when they do, they get policy voted, dont worry.

Most of the time, its because its not that difficult to figure out their alignment when they start to post more.

With random dudes, its harder because you arent as familiar with their playstyles.

It's just that from what i have understood marv is a really good player as scum as well. It becomes even easier for him to lead the town to destruction (if he is mafia) if he gets to do stuff he wants to and doesn't have to worry about people's concerns about him.


Actually if I'm quiet it makes it much harder to push my agenda, if I'm mafia.

Anyways I'm going to leave OO alone for now. He already provided more opinions (although not very categorical) than he managed in the entirety of the first cycle in Hydra, when he was easily caught.

##Unvote

What a pointless thing to say (the first). If you're quiet and not pushing lynches you are useless as either alignment. That doesn't make you town.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17954 Posts
March 26 2013 13:37 GMT
#364
On March 26 2013 13:53 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 13:51 Acrofales wrote:
On March 26 2013 13:41 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Do I really even have to tell you I think you look the most town out of everyone so far?

I think you're a good enough player to know how people read you, Hapa.

I am really surprised that you have Hapa down as obvious town. I don't think it's that obvious at all. Especially given Hapa's rather tricksy scumplay.


Oh come on. If there's anything you should have learned from Duel Mini is that my scum-game is pretty easy to catch if spend 2 minutes looking at my meta.

The meta case was on D3. On D1 I (and the entire thread) had you as scum for a retarded 180 on Iamp. Without that I would probably have had you as a tentative town read D1 (and I had you down as a tentative town read all the way until Yamato dueled you).

I don't see how being able to catch you as scum on D3 with meta is supposed to make you obvious town early on D1. I don't understand how Smurf has you down as obvious town NOW.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 26 2013 13:43 GMT
#365
On March 26 2013 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv what do you think of the cases there are atm?


InsertSmurfHere looks worst for how he squirmed on the Dandel town-meta issue. I would expect a townplayer to put his hands up and say "ok, I got this wrong". Instead he wriggled with comments about how he's only seen Dandel replacing in, how he usually did this or that, how he was useful at some point in some game. Which also makes the following comment quite out of place to me:

On March 26 2013 12:37 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Is he an idiot as town, too?



I don't understand this question really. Either he's seen enough games to form an opinion himself, or he hasn't and should have checked... either way it doesn't tally up with what he said elsewhere about how he viewed Dandel's townplay.

I'm kinda just watching the Palmar/Grack thing at the moment, I'm not sure what to make of it yet. I checked Grack's two most recent towngames according to the database and he seemed somewhat more outgoing and confident in those, but didn't feel *that* strongly about it.

The most interesting thing I saw with it was Hapa, willing to jump on the case and effectively bumlick Palmar, on the back of a few lines. Then Grack responded a couple of times to Palmar, but Hapa didn't want to talk to Grack and made some offhanded comment about Dandel instead. Anyway, Hapa's activity/interest supercedes this for now.

Acro - I never said it made me town. Don't put words in my mouth.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
March 26 2013 13:49 GMT
#366
On March 26 2013 21:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 21:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
2. Marv isnt getting lynched day 1

Of course he is if we find out he is mafia. And even if this was true that's not a reason to give him a free pass to do anything he wants without questioning him until D2.


I dont know where you have been for the past few months
Marv does not get lynched day 1.

So what do you propose marv do?
Start playing? We will see when he gets in here I guess.



Marv hangs just like anyone else on day 1, if he is deserving of it. Stop with this retarded notion of not killing good players day 1. Kill scum day 1.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 26 2013 13:59 GMT
#367
Palmar, how sure are you on this Grack thing?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
March 26 2013 14:00 GMT
#368
Do you think this makes hapa scum marv? I wasn't really looking at hapa as someone that needed more attention.

I do agree the smurf looks bad, but honestly, just based on at least putting in the effort of making that case I'd rather lynch other people on day 1.

When is the lynch?
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 26 2013 14:02 GMT
#369
On March 26 2013 23:00 Palmar wrote:
Do you think this makes hapa scum marv? I wasn't really looking at hapa as someone that needed more attention.

I do agree the smurf looks bad, but honestly, just based on at least putting in the effort of making that case I'd rather lynch other people on day 1.

When is the lynch?


Lynch is like 23:00 GMT? No, I don't think Hapa is mafia at the moment, I'm not getting bad vibes from his posts like I did in Duel. It's just something I noticed while I was lurking/watching the Grack thing unfold last night.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
March 26 2013 14:04 GMT
#370
On March 26 2013 22:59 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar, how sure are you on this Grack thing?


No idea yet, I think it's the best option we have right now, aside from maybe one or two other openings I will explore later in the cycle. I think we still have more than a day to form our final wagon, so there's no need to rush it.

I feel pretty confident Grack's responses have not helped me paint him green, and he's posted in a manner that yells scum at me. But I've also seen people simply mess up under some pressure.

So yeah, for now I'm convinced he's our best lynch target.
Computer says mafia
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 26 2013 14:04 GMT
#371
On March 26 2013 22:49 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 21:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 21:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
2. Marv isnt getting lynched day 1

Of course he is if we find out he is mafia. And even if this was true that's not a reason to give him a free pass to do anything he wants without questioning him until D2.


I dont know where you have been for the past few months
Marv does not get lynched day 1.

So what do you propose marv do?
Start playing? We will see when he gets in here I guess.



Marv hangs just like anyone else on day 1, if he is deserving of it. Stop with this retarded notion of not killing good players day 1. Kill scum day 1.


The point is that good players dont get found out day 1 as scum.
Have you ever been lynched day 1?
No gg, No skill.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
March 26 2013 14:06 GMT
#372
On March 26 2013 23:02 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 23:00 Palmar wrote:
Do you think this makes hapa scum marv? I wasn't really looking at hapa as someone that needed more attention.

I do agree the smurf looks bad, but honestly, just based on at least putting in the effort of making that case I'd rather lynch other people on day 1.

When is the lynch?


Lynch is like 23:00 GMT? No, I don't think Hapa is mafia at the moment, I'm not getting bad vibes from his posts like I did in Duel. It's just something I noticed while I was lurking/watching the Grack thing unfold last night.


You did read the interaction though? I simply said Grack was scum, and Hapa took that and expanded upon it. Sure if he's scum he may have decided to fabricate a case around a read of mine, knowing I'm town and tend to hugely bias my reads based on whether or not people agree with me.

But it can just as easily be explained by Hapa simply reading the thread and coming to the conclusion that maybe I was on to something. At least he provided an explanation as to why he agreed with me.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 26 2013 14:08 GMT
#373
I am starting to have an urge to lynch Oats.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
March 26 2013 14:08 GMT
#374
On March 26 2013 23:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 22:49 Palmar wrote:
On March 26 2013 21:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 21:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
2. Marv isnt getting lynched day 1

Of course he is if we find out he is mafia. And even if this was true that's not a reason to give him a free pass to do anything he wants without questioning him until D2.


I dont know where you have been for the past few months
Marv does not get lynched day 1.

So what do you propose marv do?
Start playing? We will see when he gets in here I guess.



Marv hangs just like anyone else on day 1, if he is deserving of it. Stop with this retarded notion of not killing good players day 1. Kill scum day 1.


The point is that good players dont get found out day 1 as scum.
Have you ever been lynched day 1?


A few times, as town and as scum.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
March 26 2013 14:09 GMT
#375
On March 26 2013 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am starting to have an urge to lynch Oats.


I want to kill him for being an asshole, but I'm not sure I want to kill him for being scum. He's saying a lot of strange things and taking absolute positions, but he's also too confrontational to be classified as highly likely scum right now.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 26 2013 14:13 GMT
#376
On top of him being stupid there is a strange contradiction in his behaviour towards s&b and smurf.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
March 26 2013 14:14 GMT
#377
If you're lynching Oats based on contradictions, you'll lynch him in every single game you play with him.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 26 2013 14:23 GMT
#378
Oats is calling S&B scum for his bad case and Smurf he is leaning town on for equally bad case. Both of the cases are based on same (apparently false/bad) meta-readings.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
March 26 2013 14:25 GMT
#379
It's a valid point ^^
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 26 2013 14:25 GMT
#380
And i personally think Smurf's case is totally more likely to be made by a mafioso than S&B's.
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