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On March 26 2013 23:56 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 23:46 strongandbig wrote:On March 26 2013 21:16 Acrofales wrote:
Because he takes some stuff which is not indicative of alignment at all and calls it scummy. + Show Spoiler [keirathi's case post] +On March 26 2013 15:08 Keirathi wrote:Anyways, I'm much more interested in Grack right now. I wasn't particularly awed by Palmar's vote/case and Hapa's input, but his interactions afterward have been much worse IMO. Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 10:56 Grackaroni wrote:On March 26 2013 10:53 Palmar wrote:
Hello thread.
I have concluded that Grackaroni is scum. Please lynch him.
##Vote Grackaroni Any reason in particular? He doesn't call out the bullshit vote. He panics, and questions it to figure out what he did wrong. I don't know any townie who reacts to a random vote on themselves by saying "OH GOD WHAT DID I DO?" Some get mad at the 'bad' play, some ignore it completely, and some vote the person back. But, even more than that: Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 11:24 Grackaroni wrote:On March 26 2013 11:19 Palmar wrote:
If you're town I'm about to mislynch you grack. Do something to convince me you're not scum. I really don't think you will. Give me something in the thread you want me to respond to and I will give you my opinion. (not much has stood out to me so far). By the way I'm just curious. Do you remember me from any other games? He's looking for a way out. He doesn't volunteer information, he wants to know what information Palmar wants, so that he can give the "right" answer, rather than a "real" answer. And finally: Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 11:37 Grackaroni wrote:
You are problably town. This is the most interest I've seen you take in scumhunting in a long time. (even though I haven't played recently I've tried to keep reading games.)
I can see why that post may have looked scummy. I didn't make my message clear and it looked like I wasn't giving any opinion. I intended for it to be directed at Sinani because I believe him using that as a reason to push the lynch onto OO is much scummier than OO actually not reading his role PM.
the only hesitation I have (and it's a small one) is that in Werewolves I walked into the pm chat and you (as scum) just said that I was scummy after one line and used pushing me as your way of contributing to the thread. (it's possible that you are looking for me to omgus in a fit of anger and dig my own grave)
Despite this hesitation I do believe your posting is townie and I think you want to scumhunt but some past experiences with you do scare me. Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 12:56 Grackaroni wrote:On March 26 2013 12:49 strongandbig wrote:On March 26 2013 12:45 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like the case on Dandel Ion. He seems to troll regardless of alignment so there's nothing in there that points to him being scum this game as opposed to just anti-town.
@ISH Why didn't you bother to look up a town game of Dandel Ion? u scum bro? No..... I know what you dislike. I didn't say anything about what I think of Dandel Ion or ISH in that post. But I wasn't intending to because I haven't drawn any conclusions on them from it. All i am saying is that I dislike the case and for good reason. The bolded points feel like more "oh crap, I re-read my posts and realize I made some mistakes. Time for damage control". Like, he was already looking back at his posts to see how they LOOKED. His first reaction was to apologize for how they were perceived. THEN he explains himself better. It betrays his mindset of caring about his appearance. How can you say that this stuff is not alignment indicative? "Caring more about looking townie than actually helping town" is like the *definition* of alignment indicative. I'm seeing a lot I don't like from acro at the moment. Also yeah I've been getting uber shat on but it would be cool if prplhz showed up sometime in the next few hours and posted some stuff. There's quite a lot that he could actually comment on now productively and without unnecessarily cluttering the thread again. Because that's not at all the way I read those posts. 1. Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 10:56 Grackaroni wrote:On March 26 2013 10:53 Palmar wrote:
Hello thread.
I have concluded that Grackaroni is scum. Please lynch him.
##Vote Grackaroni Any reason in particular? Keirathi says this is a scummy response. I don't see why. Palmar places an unjustified vote, and Grack asks why. Null. 2. Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 11:24 Grackaroni wrote:On March 26 2013 11:19 Palmar wrote:
If you're town I'm about to mislynch you grack. Do something to convince me you're not scum. I really don't think you will. Give me something in the thread you want me to respond to and I will give you my opinion. (not much has stood out to me so far). By the way I'm just curious. Do you remember me from any other games? By focusing only on the second sentence, Keirathi transforms the meaning imho. I read it as "BRING IT. Anything in particular you want to talk about?" This doesn't mean he won't talk otherwise. Anyway, insecure people looking for guidance from their town reads is not a scumtell. Hence: null. 3. Admitting failure. Yeah, still not scum. It's simply an approach to playing the game. Seen plenty of townies, and scummers, do this. Null tell. And that was the entirety of Keirathi's fantabulous case. Big fucking load of bunk.
I agree with you on the first quote. It's null.
I don't agree on the second quote. Here's a different interpretation:
Asking your town reads for advice is fine, but that's not all he does, he also claims that nothing in the thread so far has stood out to him as worth commenting on. That's what makes the rest of it scummy. At the point people had posted enough in the thread that he should either have been able to identify something worth commenting on, or at least identify players who were posting a lot without providing any content to comment on. At the very least, he could have commented on my case on prplhz. And I don't know if oats had made his case on me yet at that point but he could have commented on it. Accepting that people sometimes look to guidance from their townreads doesn't mean that going up to the person making a case on you for not talking about substance and saying "what substance do you want me to talk about" isn't scummy. And I really don't get much of a "bring it" attitude from that first sentence.
And for your third point, I see what you're getting at but I don't entirely agree, I find myself more in line with keirathi's interpretation when i look at them in the context of the filter as a whole.
I guess now that you explain yourself, I've changed my mind about your reaction being out of touch/weird, but I still don't agree with your interpretation.
+ Show Spoiler [@marv] +On March 26 2013 23:56 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 23:46 strongandbig wrote:
Also yeah I've been getting uber shat on but it would be cool if prplhz showed up sometime in the next few hours and posted some stuff. There's quite a lot that he could actually comment on now productively and without unnecessarily cluttering the thread again.
This is still cracking me up. I'm trying not to post unnecessary stuff but I just found it too funny. Ouch marv :p I was gonna just post this by itself when I saw your post: On Never strongandbig wrote:
i am going to not post unnecessary stuff, and totally ignore this.
but then i thought, wait there actually is kind of some protown motivation for not posting rando stuff, i'll just save this and spoiler it at the end of my next real post.
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There needs to be more pressure on dandel ion.
Keeping the thread clear, readable, and coherent (AKA "not spamming") has been a major topic of discussion. It has reverberated in offhand comments, in the way players have said they are interacting with the game, and explicitly in pressure put on various players.
The only player to completely ignore this and keep to his "spammy meta" has been dandel. At this point, for him not to notice the difference between how he is interacting with the thread and how everyone else is would have to take a conscious effort.
The scum motivation for this is obvious. Long, unreadable, spammy threads hurt the town.
Dandel is choosing to play in a way that hurts town and helps scum. That's not okay.
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On March 27 2013 01:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 01:31 strongandbig wrote:
There needs to be more pressure on dandel ion.
Keeping the thread clear, readable, and coherent (AKA "not spamming") has been a major topic of discussion. It has reverberated in offhand comments, in the way players have said they are interacting with the game, and explicitly in pressure put on various players.
The only player to completely ignore this and keep to his "spammy meta" has been dandel. At this point, for him not to notice the difference between how he is interacting with the thread and how everyone else is would have to take a conscious effort.
The scum motivation for this is obvious. Long, unreadable, spammy threads hurt the town.
Dandel is choosing to play in a way that hurts town and helps scum. That's not okay. What 'pressure' do you propose exactly? He's either mafia or he is not mafia. Whether you approve of his play or not, do you think he's mafia? If so, why? If not, what are you trying to achieve here?
Right now, I'm null on his alignment. I want him to change the way he's posting. The longer he continues without changing it, the more likely that he's doing it because he's scum trying to mess up our thread. So the 'pressure' is less of a "I SAY YOU ARE MAFIA NOW REACT/DANCE FOR ME" and more of a "you are doing this thing that has a clear scum motivation and no town motivation, stop doing it or I will be forced to conclude you're doing it because of the scum motivation rather than without thinking about it."
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On March 27 2013 01:59 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 01:57 strongandbig wrote:On March 27 2013 01:36 marvellosity wrote:On March 27 2013 01:31 strongandbig wrote:
There needs to be more pressure on dandel ion.
Keeping the thread clear, readable, and coherent (AKA "not spamming") has been a major topic of discussion. It has reverberated in offhand comments, in the way players have said they are interacting with the game, and explicitly in pressure put on various players.
The only player to completely ignore this and keep to his "spammy meta" has been dandel. At this point, for him not to notice the difference between how he is interacting with the thread and how everyone else is would have to take a conscious effort.
The scum motivation for this is obvious. Long, unreadable, spammy threads hurt the town.
Dandel is choosing to play in a way that hurts town and helps scum. That's not okay. What 'pressure' do you propose exactly? He's either mafia or he is not mafia. Whether you approve of his play or not, do you think he's mafia? If so, why? If not, what are you trying to achieve here? Right now, I'm null on his alignment. I want him to change the way he's posting. The longer he continues without changing it, the more likely that he's doing it because he's scum trying to mess up our thread. So the 'pressure' is less of a "I SAY YOU ARE MAFIA NOW REACT/DANCE FOR ME" and more of a "you are doing this thing that has a clear scum motivation and no town motivation, stop doing it or I will be forced to conclude you're doing it because of the scum motivation rather than without thinking about it." "Your town meta is scummy and I will want to lynch you if you continue playing like you normally do as town" ok s&b.
What's wrong with this logic?
Spam is bad for town.
Everyone else is making an effort to interact meaningfully with the thread rather than spam.
Why can't we ask him to change his methodology and play in a way that is better for town?
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holy shit prplhz is back
prplhz could you comment on the grackaroni cases as presented variously by palmar, keirathi, and others?
Who do you think is the best lynch for today?
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I'd also very much like to hear Hapahauli's updated opinion of Marvellosity.
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Nisani can you go into more detail as to why you think Grackaroni is town? I feel like that's kind of too important a point to just throw out like that without any explanation or discussion, given that he's the vote leader at the moment (i think).
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Okay prp, that makes sense but I'm trying to get you to put a little more of your reasoning out here in the thread. Could you comment on one of the various 1v1's that appear to be going on right now? (examples: acrofales vs nisani, ryan vs obviousone, etc)
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On March 27 2013 06:14 Hapahauli wrote:
Ok I expected a bit more resistance to a guy you were convinced was scum than that.
I'm with you here.
On March 27 2013 05:58 ObviousOne wrote:In the interests of having meaningful discussion about today's candidates, I would like to see everyone take a stand on who they think should be up for lynch today so we can talk about the candidates and not miss out on the opportunity to hear from people who are in opposite time zones or not able to be in the thread at various points during the day. We're coming up on the halfway point of the day portion and this is the optimal time to switch gears and makes for a good opportunity for any lingering cases yet to be made to get posted in the thread before votes are stuck in useless places due to not being around.
Original post regarding Grack: + Show Spoiler +On March 26 2013 15:39 ObviousOne wrote:Grack reads like he's ready to become an echo of thread sentiment. By admission this is a return to the game and he may be a bit rusty for that. I liked: Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 11:17 Grackaroni wrote:
For the record Hapa: When I say that I don't like Sinani using the fact that OO didn't read his role PM to say that he is scum.
I mean that Sinani is using scummy logic. (he is misconstruing something that should not be alignment indicative and using it against OO to say that he is scum.)
This is my first game in a long time and I am having some trouble finding where I need to focus. But I am giving reads and I will continue to do so.
Lack of forthcoming reads about people he's asking questions about is kind of weird, him espousing as much is highlighted here: Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 12:56 Grackaroni wrote:On March 26 2013 12:49 strongandbig wrote:On March 26 2013 12:45 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like the case on Dandel Ion. He seems to troll regardless of alignment so there's nothing in there that points to him being scum this game as opposed to just anti-town.
@ISH Why didn't you bother to look up a town game of Dandel Ion? u scum bro? No..... I know what you dislike. I didn't say anything about what I think of Dandel Ion or ISH in that post. But I wasn't intending to because I haven't drawn any conclusions on them from it. All i am saying is that I dislike the case and for good reason. Calling out sinani for tunneling on my meaningless hello post: null
We can find out a lot more about him when there are some concrete bits mid-day besides his interactions with sinani. Looking at it again, there's a kind of nugget in the middle there with the interaction between him and Palmar. (BTW I've never played with a D1-talkative Palmar before, this is kind of surreal.) He flat out gave Palmar a town read instead of proposing a better lynch target. Okay, that's weird. Scum points and town points, I want to see more. More red than green. Are you picking up what I'm putting down? Dot points outlining why I think Grack is scum: + Show Spoiler +On March 27 2013 03:13 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 03:01 Acrofales wrote:On March 27 2013 02:53 marvellosity wrote:
Grackeroni is an infinitely better lynch than either rayn or Obvious. Obvious isn't playing scared at all which was the overarching theme of his play in Hydra Mafia (even with VE for support).
Acro, I'll check what you said about Nisani when I'm home and have some time later. What makes you say OO is not timid? He has not really done anything that stands out except to not read his role PM, when he had, probably, not read his role pm, which makes that completely non-indicative of alignment. Since then he has shared 2 rather vague and meaningless association cases... and a meandering post about Grack that left me with the feeling that he didn't actually have an opinion either way. Where are the reads? Where is the scumhunting? Where is the townie activity? You just don't have a handle on how I play. Marv understands me better. This is how I do. When I talk about something, it's typically because it's either worth replying to or the person I'm talking about is a scum-read of mine or someone I'm interested in getting a better read on myself. There's no reason to talk about townies except in passing and/or when referring to cases. I thought Kei was scummy yesterday but he's looking better today and I have dropped it. I'm hedging my bets on Grack being scum - responded to Palmar's pressure by giving Palmar a town read instead of an alternate lynch proposition - no substantial positions taken outside of calling Nisani's train of thought scummy - a lot of posts but little of any intent - seems to have known better than discuss my meaningless intro post but continues to talk about it for several posts instead of simply shutting down the conversation as pointless
My vote is currently on Grackaroni.
I like this initiative. Here's mine: I could lynch either Grack or Nisani at the moment.
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Hey older peoples - (actually woah I'm pretty sure that other than Palmar, marv and I have been playing the longest of anyone here wtf. maybe acro? grack doesn't count cause he wasn't really playing this whole time)
but anyway older peoples like marv and acro - why is palmar talking so much on day 1? at first I was like wow palmar cares about this game guess he's town, but now i'm just sort of like wtf is going on. do you think he's just super town or what?
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On March 27 2013 22:51 Oatsmaster wrote:He was wrong about Grack and I was right. That should not happen. He pushes Grack 100% day 1, like when he is in the thread, thats basically most of what he talks about aside from smurfs bad case and stuff surrounding that. Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 09:04 Palmar wrote:
@Acrofales at the beginning of the game you claimed vanilla townie. Would you consider it fair that we lynch you if you at any point claim any other role in the game? If not, would you consider retracting your claim? Really fucking weird post. Its just weird. Like what.
This post is not weird, there is a very good point.
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On March 27 2013 12:55 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 11:16 Grackaroni wrote:On March 27 2013 11:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nobody is going to vote OO/Oats/Smurf either way whatever i say. And Grack has not dona anythig useful. I would be okay switching into one of those three or Nisani/prplhz, but nobody is going to listen to me anyways so what the hell. Better to trust people i trust are town then. lol see what the hell is this. I thought he was town but nobody is going to listen to me so now I'll just vote for town. Yeah I'm actually starting to lean scum on Rayn myself. The seed was planted earlier in my second post when I said that it was possible a tired Rayn could have scum slipped. I don't recall a response to that particular sentence I pointed out, but then again I didn't phrase it as a question. For reference: Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 14:08 ObviousOne wrote:==Some thoughts on today's action== + Show Spoiler +On March 26 2013 10:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2013 10:34 Keirathi wrote:On March 26 2013 10:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And given that you don't (at least you should not) know prplhz's alignment how exactly is it not beneficial to see how he reacts to the case first? Because it doesn't matter a single bit how he reacts because the case was built on false information. Hell, if I was scum, I would love nothing more than for someone to make a case on me that I could so easily refute just by posting a few quotes from my previous games that wouldn't even be hard to find. The point of making "cases" isn't to convince the person they are scum. They are to convince everyone else that someone is scum. Anyone seeing what I'm seeing here? Plus, S&B was asking for opinions about his case. The problem with meta in this prplhz case is that it's the easiest thing in the world to fake. Even the dumbest idiot could probably fake their "town meta" by posting some general advice as their first post. Other than that part, you are right. Broken out, preserving the interaction above: On March 26 2013 10:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And given that you don't (at least you should not) know prplhz's alignment how exactly is it not beneficial to see how he reacts to the case first? I thought about this sentence for a while. I probably thought about it for too long. It might even be nothing. I thought about what a Rayn might be implying here, assuming town: If we emphasize the "don't" and following parenthesis, the implication here is that Rayn is calling out Kei for shutting down a potentially useful avenue of information. Okay, I get that. I thought about what Rayn might be implying here, assuming mafia: If we emphasize the "given that you" portion, we get a scum claim.
I don't know Rayn, and I can't reference the only other recent game since it's ongoing, so I want to say it's believe from a town mindset as an accusation against Kei derailing SNB's poorly constructed case. The alternative is a tired mind, ready for sleep, just posting for the sake of posting and literally claiming scum in the thread. -snip irrelevant portion- Moving forward in the filter, I see him having scum reads on me and several other people I would consider town at this point.: Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 09:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
PALMAR LET GO OF CORA AND GRACK AND FOCUS ON SCUM LIKE OO/OATS/SMURF/NISANI PLZ!
Don't you see thye have disappeared when townies call out other townies and laugh in the background. Man, you should be able to see that.
Who of those guys are mafia? I'm more null on Nisani but the rest are more town than scummy to me right now. So let's look at what he's brought up against his proposed alternate lynches: Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 27 2013 05:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 27 2013 05:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 27 2013 05:05 ObviousOne wrote:
EBWOP: (sorry for triple)
To finish the thought, you're really just defending Grack outright without giving me a proper alternative and I don't like it. I just gave you some names who are not you. Oats / Smurf. Why not lynch them? Get off your ridiculous reasoning and tell us why other than 'go look at my filter, I cba to explain it to you' If you dont know specifically why or if you cant concisely put down a few reasons, how could we think of these people as scum? (yes it includes me, no thats not the point) Okay, here is your fucking reasoning:Oats:Oats is calling S&B scum for his bad case and Smurf he is leaning town on for equally bad case. Both of the cases are based on same (apparently false/bad) meta-reads. After being called out does a full 180. Has no scum reads other than slightly leaning scum on Smurf (in that 180). Smurf:Smurf is leaving out stuff that does not speak in favor of his DI case. Stuff that he should have obviously checked. Does defend the case later on when people call him out on it. Can't be any sort of reaction test (rofl Nisani). Other than that this is all he has done: On March 27 2013 03:04 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Cora, you have essentially one read that you've fleshed out, and that read has met significant resistance with the thread. Why don't you give a read on a different player? I know you are capable of this as town, I saw it in Duel. Hop off your tunnel train for a minute and realize I want something more alignment indicative out of you than this attack on rayn. Called Cora out. How is he allowed to tell Cora to do something other than go after me when he hasn't done shit other than an scummy case? Look at the bolded/red sentence above, in particular. He's giving his full reasoning but he's doing it BEGRUDGINGLY. In what game do we begrudgingly give scum reads? That's pretty scummy to me on its own. Not demonstrating a town mindset IMO. The reads themselves are pretty meh. The only possible original thought I see is his stance on Oats but that's not a difficult thing to do given how easy of a target I feel Oats has made himself. Finally, resignation: Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 11:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nobody is going to vote OO/Oats/Smurf either way whatever i say. And Grack has not dona anythig useful. I would be okay switching into one of those three or Nisani/prplhz, but nobody is going to listen to me anyways so what the hell. Better to trust people i trust are town then. 5, count them, five possible targets for today's lynch. That's a whole lot of suspicion for so little build-up. "Let's just lynch anyone!" How about no.
Not gonna do pretty formatting but I really don't like this post. I won't do pretty formatting because I'm on my phone, but there's a few things:
- "the seed was planted" etc - there's no reason to include this in a town case, but scum want to establish "hey guys I'm being consistent". Makes the case implicitly about "I'm town and making this case on my scumread" as much as about actually persuading us his read is scum.
- one of his key arguments is "he has bad reads / scum reads on people who everyone thinks is town." We all know this is a terrible argument, since what really matters isn't who the reads are on, but whether the reasoning for those reads demonstrates a town mindset. But saying "look who he thought was scum everyone disagrees with him so he must be the scum" makes sense as a scum case, it attracts the attention of those people and makes the case easier to sheep.
- I also don't really agree with the "begrudging" part, I think when a townie feels hectored he can be plenty begrudging but scum would hide it. But that's less of a reason this case is scummy, and more just a reason I disagree with it.
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On March 27 2013 23:16 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 23:14 Acrofales wrote:On March 27 2013 23:03 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 27 2013 22:55 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 27 2013 22:51 Acrofales wrote:On March 27 2013 22:33 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 27 2013 22:25 Acrofales wrote:On March 27 2013 21:59 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 27 2013 21:51 Acrofales wrote:On March 27 2013 11:01 marvellosity wrote:
Hi Acro, I need you to explain something for me. This in particular.
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I played in Fruity and Obvious made a grand total of about 10 posts on Day 1 there. Most of them trolling in a nonsensical fashion and in fact not engaging with people at all. I also found him scummy in LX on Day 1 (OO can verify this). You seem to be asserting the opposite, why?
Like... what the hell am I reading. You are defending Marv based on a meta read that he DIRECTLY contradicts. You can see Marv thinking this game is more similar because OO is more active here, when his OWN impression of Fruity was that OO was an inactive, unengaged troll. Marv was questioning your meta read on OO from fruity and LX Marv saw uninterested, scummy looking OO from Fruity and LX You didnt. He wanted to know where you are coming from, because he didnt see what you saw on day 1 of those games. 1. That's not what I asked. 2. You're not who I asked. 3. You haven't said what you think of Marv. WHY THE FUCK DID YOU BOTHER MAKING THIS POST? Sorry refreshed page lost everything. I didnt answer your question. The reason why I made that post was because you seem to be struggling with marv's question on how you saw a different OO from those games. What provoked this response? Did you get so angry reading my post that you couldnt control your fingers? Marv is probably town. Mainly to get your opinion on Marv, and to ensure that Hapa doesn't think he can just skip the question because you answered it for him. Can you elaborate on your town read on Marv? He is doing jackshit. Basically. Feels a lot like hydra. I meant to say MTG where he hydra'ed there :/ But as far as I can remember, he was useless day 1 in hydra. And in chrono trigger. And in duel. So yeah town. This logic. It hurts. And I was just starting to think you were town, when you show this complete lack of critical thinking. Is there anything short of outright claiming scum that could cause you to NOT have a town read on Marv? Marv is active, scumhunting and pushing his reads: he must be town (this one I agree with) Marv is passive and useless: he must be town. The mind boggles. Do you know marv? I guess not. Well thats sad I guess. SnB, please explain why Palmar threatening to lynch Acro if he isnt actually vanilla townie a good point? Also Kenpachi rule makes Palmar scum. TOTALLY. Dudes. sheeping needs to commence.
Nope
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It could be a town show from someone newish who doesn't know it's a bad idea to shoot day 1
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On March 28 2013 05:08 Acrofales wrote:
Fuck it, Hapa. I don't have time to reply properly, but your case is terrible.
You give absolutely atrocious meta reasons for Nisani being town, by showing how he is playing the same as his town games. Guess what, he is playing the same style as his scum games too, because that's the way he rolls.
What I did was show how his play was anti-town... not similar to how he plays as scum, but actually anti-town. THAT is why Nisani is scum this game, not some horrid meta argument.
You then use your absolutely terrible confirmation bias to say that because Nisani is town, Sinani is scum, because he didn't see the meta argument. Fucking /facepalm.
So yeah. Nisani is scum. Lynch him. Don't care about the rest.
soooo baaad
acro is scummmmmm
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On March 28 2013 05:45 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2013 05:58 ObviousOne wrote:
In the interests of having meaningful discussion about today's candidates, I would like to see everyone take a stand on who they think should be up for lynch today so we can talk about the candidates and not miss out on the opportunity to hear from people who are in opposite time zones or not able to be in the thread at various points during the day. We're coming up on the halfway point of the day portion and this is the optimal time to switch gears and makes for a good opportunity for any lingering cases yet to be made to get posted in the thread before votes are stuck in useless places due to not being around.
Not a fan of this scenario we are in right now. Of course nobody listens to me. Standard.
"i told you so guys if you'd listened to me we would be so much better off right now guess i'm the towniest townie around"
just like that case from before.
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consolidating on keirathi in case the deadline is in two minutes
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there are two different deadlines in the OP and kurumi hasn't confirmed which one it is
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On March 28 2013 06:02 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 05:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
Looks like no one is getting lynched today...well done Marv. This looks terrible and I want to kill you.
lets do it
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