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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 03:49 GMT
#1686
On March 29 2013 12:45 Hapahauli wrote:
I mean effort this cycle marv. You said you're not going to fight the lynch. Okay. So are you going to hunt mafia today?


Yes, of course I will try to find the two I think should be lynched. I really need to look again at Smurf and maybe talk to him at some point. Probably sinani and s&b are my top 2 right now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 03:51 GMT
#1687
On March 29 2013 12:48 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, this is a silly argument. So moving on:

Show nested quote +
On March 29 2013 12:21 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe. prplhz should explain his vote, though. It's enough for me to fully rescind my townread on him, especially given he's basically defended s&b and Smurf. The problem with a prplhz-mafia idea is that it would mean a Smurf-mafia hard-defended him on meta, which seems really unlikely.

I'm not even particularly sure Smurf is mafia anymore.

Why do you not think Smurf is mafia anymore?

Like I mentioned earlier, you had him town as you top (or one of your top) scumreads like 3-4 times during the first day, but just in passing comments. No actual comments on him until the middle of night 1.


Palmar flipped town and for some reason didn't think Smurf was mafia. And he seems genuinely angry at stages.

The sticking point is how he pushed Nisani, and also the fact that yamato is pretty known for *not* going after lurkers, in fact quite the opposite.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 03:52 GMT
#1689
Birthday isn't until the 30th, silly ^_^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 03:56 GMT
#1693
Again, Palmar for some reason thought sinani was on the mafia side, and sinani pushed a townie he's played with many times to the lynch at the exclusion of everything else.

Hapa - yes, I'd need to check that game out to see if I'm seeing ghosts. Partly it's my distrust of prplhz, but prplhz has always been weak.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 03:57 GMT
#1694
On March 29 2013 12:55 Hapahauli wrote:
Last-last word:

Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 07:09 Palmar wrote:
marv, reyn, sinani, prplhz, smurf and maaaybe strongandbig

3-4 scum in list.


Palmar very clearly thought Yamato was scum. Not sure where you're getting that from.


Ah, I misremembered this. Ok.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 11:44 GMT
#1705
prplhz, explain your vote on me you pussy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 15:13 GMT
#1724
On March 30 2013 00:00 strongandbig wrote:
Sure I didn't post much during the night phase but at least I was able to respond to some stuff and drop down my suspicions and reasoning on OO. I wouldn't call that "scummy lurking".

In other news, lets discuss a hypothetical situation for a minute: Marv apparently lists someone as one of his top scum reads but hasn't actually read or thought about that person's filter. Does that make Marv scum? I feel like town Marv would just be honest and say "I haven't read filters" or "I don't have any strong scum reads right now" instead of pulling them out of his ass.

Tbh current Marv reminds me a bit of "this setup is imba so I'm just gonna stop giving a fuck" Marv. That means scum Marv.


This entire post is terrible. I have no idea what you're getting at in the middle paragraph, and the final paragraph makes even less sense. I've never stopped giving a fuck as mafia because a setup is imba? This post might be the worst justification for calling me mafia I've ever seen.

Somehow it's an even worse justification for voting me than prplhz's, who had no justification whatsoever. *You* are the one who is just pulling this read out your ass.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 16:21 GMT
#1755
The claim is probably legit if my own role PM is anything to go by.

I can't pick out 4 mafia now for the life of me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 16:29 GMT
#1763
On March 30 2013 01:24 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
The claim is probably legit if my own role PM is anything to go by.

I can't pick out 4 mafia now for the life of me.


Do you have reasons to believe it to be true beyond aesthetics?


You claimed you were hit and saved, so if an actual medic saved you then s&b dies immediately with a counterclaim
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 17:05 GMT
#1778
On March 30 2013 01:59 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
The claim is probably legit if my own role PM is anything to go by.

I can't pick out 4 mafia now for the life of me.


Who are your weakest town reads then?


Just about to dash off for Brighton.

I pretty much am going to rescind rayn, Acro, dandel as people I'm leaning town on. OO too I guess.

Kei/Cora/s&b have claims that I have no reason to disbelieve, and if you're mafia you're playing the game of your life. I'm still not seeing Oats as mafia and as Palmar thought the same and has flipped town now (:p) I have no reason to look down that avenue either.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 17:34 GMT
#1781
On March 30 2013 02:21 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 02:05 marvellosity wrote:
On March 30 2013 01:59 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 30 2013 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
The claim is probably legit if my own role PM is anything to go by.

I can't pick out 4 mafia now for the life of me.


Who are your weakest town reads then?


Just about to dash off for Brighton.

I pretty much am going to rescind rayn, Acro, dandel as people I'm leaning town on. OO too I guess.

Kei/Cora/s&b have claims that I have no reason to disbelieve, and if you're mafia you're playing the game of your life. I'm still not seeing Oats as mafia and as Palmar thought the same and has flipped town now (:p) I have no reason to look down that avenue either.


When you get back, fill me in on your thoughts on Yamato, Sinani, and prplhz.


The first two are my top scumreads. When I mentioned in a post earlier the "sticking point" I had with yamato, I'd previously forgotten that he hates going after lurkers ahead of other targets, and yet he did so with Nisani, with no other basis that he's a lurker.

If yamato is mafia it seems very unlikely prplhz is also mafia, it just seems so hard to believe that a mafia-yamato would hard defend a mafia-prplhz on meta.

Anyway I've not left yet, am doing so now
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 19:28 GMT
#1784
On March 30 2013 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP:

Okay. prplhz continues being terribad again when there is only little suspicion on him. S&B's claim is probably legit. I don't see a reason why would he do that as mafia.

Marv:
Show nested quote +
I pretty much am going to rescind rayn, Acro, dandel as people I'm leaning town on. OO too I guess.

Elaborate please.

If you let aside Yamato, what are your current thoughts on prplhz based on his N1 & D2 contributions?


Merely for the simple fact that if I'm envisaging 4 mafia, then people I'm at least somewhat town on must actually be mafia. Pretty much everyone who has flipped/claimed I've found suspicious to some extent, and they're (presumably) all town.

I don't see that much point thinking about prplhz until Smurf has flipped. I don't think I can see myself wanting to lynch prplhz ahead of Smurf.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 22:52 GMT
#1818
On March 30 2013 07:24 prplhz wrote:
I think he might be scum. I remember finding him really annoying in Nomination Mafia and he was town, in Personality 2 I thought that it was weird how he suddenly wasn't very annoying, Same goes for this game.


He was town there though? What are you getting at?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 22:59 GMT
#1822
On March 30 2013 07:56 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 07:50 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 30 2013 00:33 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 30 2013 00:17 prplhz wrote:
On March 30 2013 00:07 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 29 2013 06:39 cDgCorazon wrote:
Last but not least is Palmar. Looking through his filter again, I found a lot of posts talking about town reads while he was tunneling Grack. He made a lot of town reads (at least 6-7), and did not give very much explanation on many of them. However, the other stumbling block with Palmar is Grack's kill. If Palmar was scum, why would he kill his tunnel and the person that his primary scumhunting was on? I could see him being town from that, but his other actions have me worried. His random flip-flopping between Nisani and Sinani was really sketch as well, and his D1 play just worries me.


This is what I said on Palmar before. That's why I had made that post thinking about Palmar's kill.

Also in my filter (because you obviously aren't reading the thread):

On March 29 2013 07:29 cDgCorazon wrote:
Prp, would you like to start your D2 over and contribute something to the discussion? I don't understand why you are worrying about how much KP the scum have, that's just stupid setup speculation as an excuse for not contributing anything.

I want to see some reads, whether you want to show them or not.


Let me know when you are interested in actually trying.

That makes no sense at all. You are worrying about Palmar's night kill because of a post you made where you talked about how Palmar could either be town or scum? I fail to see the connection.

Rereading that post, why is it a "stumbling block" that Grackaroni was killed? It seems like you're regarding something you think points at Palmar being town as an obstacle.

You are also berating me for setup speculation when you are doing the exact same thing in this post. The big difference though, is that your setup speculation is a conclusion that make absolutely no sense (either town or scum vig, no chance of KP) while my "setup speculation" is an interesting question.


Prp, you are really grasping at nothing here. I just made a comment that explained the possible night kill. At least I didn't walk in and say "HEY GUYS, HOW MANY MAFIA DO YOU THINK THERE ARE?" which is basically you trying to shit up the thread.

Grack being killed was making the Palmar read hard because he wasn't playing a very town-oriented game but scum Palmar would not attack his tunnel target. That was the part that was confusing me.

I did not make any set-up speculation in the post you linked. I was wondering whether a town vig or a scum vig did the kill. That's a lot more valuable that mafia's KP.

Let me know when you have actual points you want to make. Attacking me with this silly nonsense isn't doing you any favors.

You mean, this wasn't good enough?


Why do you think that Palmar was hit by a vigilante and not by KP? Why do you think Hapahauli was hit by KP and not by a vigilante? Why would you ever even think that a town vigilante hits Palmar on N1?


I'm gonna step in because I believe this whole episode is a victim of a misread. You're referring to this post:

On March 29 2013 07:12 cDgCorazon wrote:
Well there is explanation for Palmar kill:

Scum afraid of him being good analyzer, kills his scumread to try and discredit him. It doesn't lead to him getting lynched, so they take him out.

Unless there is a town vig that didn't call their shot, can we assume it was a scum vig?

Alright Yamato, the clock is ticking.

##Vote: Yamato/Smurf


Corazon, as far as i can see, is talking about the shot on Grackeroni, not on Palmar.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 23:01 GMT
#1823
On March 30 2013 07:59 prplhz wrote:
I may or may not have killed Palmar yesterday. Think "CPR doctor" though that's not what it is.


Just explain, dear?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 23:07 GMT
#1825
Probably shouldn't have mentioned it at all then, sweetie.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 23:14 GMT
#1831
On March 30 2013 08:10 strongandbig wrote:
Marv what do you say to my contention that you referring to me multiple times as one if your top scum reads but not noticing my soft medic claim means you weren't actually trying to figure out my alignment but were instead just throwing around scum reads?


nothing, it's dull and i've already deleted 3 posts about it but it's just not interesting enough for me to type about. Sorry.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 23:19 GMT
#1833
ok? you have your vote on me, so let's not worry about it too much
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 23:21 GMT
#1835
At least spell my name correctly, you stupid little shit
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 29 2013 23:25 GMT
#1837
On March 30 2013 08:22 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 08:19 marvellosity wrote:
ok? you have your vote on me, so let's not worry about it too much

Zzzzzz.

I don't want to lynch you if you are town. Quit giving up. I'm not in here yelling at everyone to vote you, and I'm trying to back off so you don't get "on tilt" or wahtever. But you're not giving us anything.


What's there to say about his stupid claim at the start of the day?

It's blatantly obvious to anyone who's even vaguely reading the thread what the options were, and I believe I've shown myself to be attentive to the thread multiple times (for example, easily pulling up Palmar's read on you, or Smurf's blue snipe)

There's very little to say about it other than that either he's mafia, and he won't claim, or he'll claim and be counterclaimed, or he's not mafia, in which case at some stage he'll claim and not be counterclaimed. This doesn't actually require anyone bringing anything up.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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