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Second: We lynch VE, maybe not today, but at a later point. He did something abismally dumb and says he didn't get a response after writing "I accept", yet on the other hand says he cut off the communications with The Mirror afterwards. So we don't know what's up, except that he just created a whole lot of confusion to shit up the thread, and he deserves to be lynched for that and cause we are unsure what his alignment really is now. He said he didn't get host confirmation for his wincon change, yet his line might be enough as condition to join that party, so even if he's not sure himself, we lynch him. On another note: I think Wiggles is town for reasons stated. We see he had an early townread on WoS and wasn't afraid to explain it before his claim, so that kinda makes me trust him. Aside from that it doesn't look like scum Wiggles from the game I was in with him. Scum WIggles and Scum sciberbia (and me) I would prefer to lynch cosmicomics today and leave VE for a later point. I don't think his party has KP and I believe his claim that he has been shot. However we don't know if he survived cause he is bulletproof third party or really a veteran. This 3p likely has no KP and just tries to grow and outnumber town. So they aren't as threatening as scum, that means we try to lynch scum first. If someone is willing to join me in the lynch on my previously stated reads please tell me. I'll take layabout away from them for the moment cause of his case against WF. Cosmicomics and GK are the way to go first, though. | ||
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WF Day 1 start: March 16 2013 15:51 First post between GK and Wade - Wade chose to contact GK only 6 hours before deadline (!) + Show Spoiler + 08:52:00 p.m. Sunday March 17, 2013 in US/Eastern converts to 09:52:00 a.m. Monday March 18, 2013 in Asia/Seoul 03-17-2013 08:52 PM ET (US) Edit Delete Mason QT between GoodKarma and Wade Fell for D1 of The Game. VE + Show Spoiler + The "Mirror" is a third party cult leader of some kind and he tried to recruit me last night. Everyone beware "The Mirror" - he is in our midst and he will try and convert you too. VisceraEyes 03-20-2013 11:50 AM ET (US) EDIT DELETE Fuck it I accept. If I'm going to be ignored by most of the thread, I might as well punish them for it. 7 The Mirror 03-20-2013 11:38 AM ET (US) Of course I have countermeasures for survival. I would not have been given such an arduous task if it were not. And it seems like you are perceptive enough to understand what I offer you. Do not fret about the delay in notification. That seems to be ... a trend this game. I shall inform you that playing "townie" will be in your best interest, and will hardly conflict with the greater purpose you shall receive. Everything will be made ... crystal clear. A-haha. 11:50:00 a.m. Wednesday March 20, 2013 in US/Eastern converts to 12:50:00 a.m. Thursday March 21, 2013 in Asia/Seoul The timestamps of VE don't seem to be from last night, but from this day. Something is foul here or didn't I check thoroughly? | ||
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Please stop spamming the thread and put huge quotes in spoilers thanks. You doing conversation like that only makes you both look like idiots and doesn't get anyone lynched. /moderation While I think VE is 3p by now I think we should try to hit scum today, but w/e | ||
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I am still confident zarepath, GK and cosmicomics are scum. However, as I see it as of now there are the 2 wildcards I mentioned earlier: Given Trancestorm's latest entrance and a look at his filter I feel he is a good candidate for one of the spots, in the other spot I see fitting either Coag, WF or kita. Coag obviously the guy I'm least sure about. Fairly confident in saying that scum is pushing the Wiggles wagon currently, and VE is grasping at the most likely lynch according to common opinions to save his own hide right now. | ||
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Anyway thinking about it, it's somewhat unlikely that The Mirror can convert as many people as he pleases, that would be OP, so I feel unsure about this lynch. Let's vig-lynch Coag instead, else we will never be able to read him anyway and you can't leave everything to vigs. | ||
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"The vigs will settle it" is not a valid attitude. Imagine if you have a whole bunch of such guys but not a vig for each one of them, which will likely be the case in most games. It doesn't look like we have vigs anyway,so it's in our hands. Let's teach this kind of people how to play the game plz Unvote Vote: Coagulation | ||
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On March 21 2013 09:48 TranceStorm wrote: This is actually exactly what I was referring to earlier. You avoid the major candidates of the day and make a case against someone who you know won't be lynched! There's literally no pressure on Coagulation, so why bother voting for him? This entire game you have been pushing unlikely lynch candidates and I am becoming more and more suspicious -> it seems to me like you are trying to appear as if you are contributing to the discussion. It's much easier for scum to look like they're contributing when they make cases on players most of the thread believes to be scum, since others will find it easier to agree with their cases and hence see them positively. And if scum gets attacked while doing so, the attackers will look like they are attacking the lynch wagon as well, which will attract a lot of attention. You are putting things backwards here. I am contributing to people that most of the thread doesn't seem to care about, and that's what you need usually instead of a blob of collective confirmation bias on single players. | ||
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Would have preferred you to cut out the "I accept" although it would have been somewhat lying, but I recognize that it's something that actually puts you into more favourable light, I can't persuade people on my own however. Kenpachi please read the whole thread before you accuse someone of being scum. Your vote on me is completely unreasonable. If you gotta vote for someone while low on information then lynch-vig someone like Coag. Not much you can do wrong, it's win-win for town. | ||
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On March 21 2013 10:11 TranceStorm wrote: Let's think of the game from a scum perspective. Scum want to remain 'under the radar' throughout the game. Therefore, you're presumption is incorrect because even though "others will find it easier to agree with their cases and hence see them positively" on the day of the lynch, being on the mislynch train is incredibly suspicious the following day. Hence, one approach that a mafia player could take is to make lots of cases against a couple of relatively scummy players who don't have much pressure on them and to avoid getting involved in lynches entirely by parking their votes on people who definitely won't get lynched. I'm reasonably certain that you are following this approach. No, being on the mislynch wagon with a load of other townies is no risk for them. Each of the townies on the wagon can't accuse them of that without accusing themselves, and outside townies can't accuse them without accusing other townies, it's the perfect example of blending in. You can be accused of your reasons to switch to it/join it, but not of pushing it or being on it. | ||
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On March 21 2013 10:25 layabout wrote: The correct play is to lynch VE, we cannot trust that we can vig him and he posted logs of him joining a 3rd party. We should kill wiggles tonight, since i expect a lot more from him when he rolls town. Vivax there is not way i could write like "The mirror" does in that qt you seem to be mad at me because i called what you were doing and saying dumb. But it was and you need to come to terms with this. This game the effort you have put in has been orders of magnitude better than you did in the last two games and there is next to no chance that you are scum. maybe read this (post 228): http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/rXAf5L6B4Z4e6 Whilst i no longer think zarepath is scum your analysis of him was good. Do more of that. The thing is not just that, it's also that I feel you don't really have interest in pushing cases yourself or figure things out, but talk about a lot of other stuff, for which I could see you fit into 3rd party. Will not really go into detail about the things that give me that feeling since I have bigger fish to fry and you are low priority, if indeed (supposedly) KP-less third party. Then on the other hand you also looked a little like that in LX, but less I'd say. You seemed more eager to push your reads. If you're town I'd like you to help amplificate the message of cases you find good, or try to do so with your own, know what I mean? | ||
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I don't think Wiggles is scum. I have doubts VE could be third party and if he is he comes after scum. We should kill Coag, he's a big fat ? who doesn't contribute anything useful on purpose, if he is town we will never know, and if he is scum we won't either. So let's get rid of that dude. Enough of this "Leave it to the vigs policy", teach people how to play the game if they don't want their arse kicked by townies that don't want that type of player around. Do you want Coag around? | ||
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Can somebody explain to me why there are so many votes on VE? Do you guys all think he is scum or third party or are you just voting him to resolve this mess? Cause scum wants him dead simple. And they want Wiggles dead, too. In case of emergency, break the Coag. | ||
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Do you have a read on Coag? + Show Spoiler + Why don't you have a read on Coag? + Show Spoiler + Why don't you try to think about whether Coag is scum or not? + Show Spoiler + Do you want him to keep playing like that? + Show Spoiler + Then why don't you lynch him since he will? | ||
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You know my 3 fixed scumreads, it'd be them. | ||
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