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Now I lay me down to sleep,
I pray the Town my soul to keep,
If I shall die before I wake,
I pray the Town my soul to take.
On March 19 2013 12:38 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 12:36 kitaman27 wrote:
Considering I nearly fell asleep writing the personality endgame post I'm going to have to call it a night. Hope to see you all in the morning! NOOOO WHAT IF YOU DIIIEIEEEEEEE?!??!?!?
Then he'll really be dead tired
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I haven't really read too deeply since night time. I've been sort of skimming over the thread and reading a bit more for certain posts/posters, but that's it right now. I won't be awake to post stuff right before the deadline, so I've weighed between posting some stuff now about reads or just waiting, and I've opted to wait. I'm waiting to see what happens with the day post, and I haven't really gotten to pay close attention to the reactions to the GreY flip. Any post I make won't be much better than a Day 1 read, so I don't think it will help much as compared to the possibility of it becoming WIFOM if I die.
I noticed some people questioning my decision making regarding GreY's lynch, and my last post before the flip, so I'll go a bit into my thought process. Basically, GreY was someone I was watching throughout the day. I thought he was scummy, and Ryu's post lined up a lot with what I was thinking about him. I wanted to see how GreY would react or try to defend himself, but unfortunately he never did. He just gave up, which put us in a crappy situation, because you can either weigh it as a townie giving up, or as a mafia ploy. Based on how he acted earlier, I concluded he was more likely to be scum, and voted for him. I said it was a bad situation, because when he just martyrs himself and acts apathetically, he doesn't give us anything else to work with, and you can't just drop the case because he stopped posting.
I'll watch the thread for a little less than an hour if anyone has questions about some things for me. I don't really want to post a list of reads though.
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On March 19 2013 13:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Here are my thoughts.
Wade Fell is SCUM!!
He has done nothing this game. The last game I played with him he aggressively pushed his reads and pressured suspects. He's done nothing like that in this thread. He showed early aggression based on weak reasoning, but all he's done since is defend GK. Literally.
But that's not all he's done. Wade Fell is also a mason. I know this because he's been masoned to me all during this phase. He claims to have been masoned to GK during the day. All he's done in this mason convo has been push his same weak arguments he made in the thread at first, then just passively agree with anything I said. He wasn't trying to divine my alignment. And if his posts are to be believe he didn't mason GK to divine his alignment either. He's been masoning town-reads. To what end? He's not bringing anything new to the table in mason chats, that's for sure.
This leads me to conclude that Wade Fell is some sort of scum mason attempting to manipulate townies. He claims he can mason a different person every phase, and phase one he chose GK and phase 2 he chose me.
Factor in the fact that we've already flipped one town-aligned mason role in Nightmare and I'm inclined to believe that WF's role is scum aligned even more.
So WF is scum. Talk about it.
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VE, why did you just reveal a supposed mason during night time?
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Wade Fell scum sounds reasonable to me VE. Here are the notes I made on him:
Wade Fell
- early game a bit sketchy
- defends zarepath but interested in response to question
- suspiciously backs off his initial zarepath + geript scumteam theory
- suspiciously confident that GK is town
- scummy jump onto GM wagon
seems scummy
can expand upon these later but a bit busy right now. Are you allowed to post the mason logs? iirc you are not.
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I don't think I'm allowed, which is part of why I revealed him. Without the ability to post the mason logs, it seems weak anyway and it's a large portion of what makes him scummy to me.
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oh maybe you are. In the game rules, it says you cannot share PMs with outside players.
Well if you are indeed allowed to post them I see no reason why you shouldn't.
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On March 19 2013 12:37 geript wrote:
Did you see my last post VE? Do you think BH would make that night post after a town flip?
You know what geript? I'm tired of you flinging shit like a monkey in a zoo from the sidelines. If you had something to say, you'd have said it during D1. Everything you've done this game has been with the purpose of hurting town, and you're just mad I've attacked you and other people who didn't like VE's idea for forming a town circle. Your so-called evidence regarding how I began this night is bullshit, like everything else you spew. of COURSE I look into the filters of dead townies. of COURSE I'll take his reads into account. we were literally talking about this over the course of the mafia podcast, but you didn't absorb any of that because you're just another grush, just another player who is worthless as a townie, so worthless scum keeps him alive until lylo because he never does anything remotely useful, the perfect scum player. VE told me to hold back on attacking you tonight, he said that he'd try to coax something useful out of you, but what's this? You're flinging shit at everything useful town has tried to do this game, because the very idea of veterans, of skilled players, trying to hunt scum is offensive to you. You're just a fly, geript, a fly on the wall that I will crush like all the other players who stand against me this game.
I'm tired of listening to your garbage. tomorrow try to start a wagon on me, I fucking dare you. I'll lynch you first.
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On March 19 2013 13:28 Wade Fell wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 12:37 geript wrote:
Did you see my last post VE? Do you think BH would make that night post after a town flip? You know what geript? I'm tired of you flinging shit like a monkey in a zoo from the sidelines. If you had something to say, you'd have said it during D1. Everything you've done this game has been with the purpose of hurting town, and you're just mad I've attacked you and other people who didn't like VE's idea for forming a town circle. Your so-called evidence regarding how I began this night is bullshit, like everything else you spew. of COURSE I look into the filters of dead townies. of COURSE I'll take his reads into account. we were literally talking about this over the course of the mafia podcast, but you didn't absorb any of that because you're just another grush, just another player who is worthless as a townie, so worthless scum keeps him alive until lylo because he never does anything remotely useful, the perfect scum player. VE told me to hold back on attacking you tonight, he said that he'd try to coax something useful out of you, but what's this? You're flinging shit at everything useful town has tried to do this game, because the very idea of veterans, of skilled players, trying to hunt scum is offensive to you. You're just a fly, geript, a fly on the wall that I will crush like all the other players who stand against me this game. I'm tired of listening to your garbage. tomorrow try to start a wagon on me, I fucking dare you. I'll lynch you first.
Uh...wow.
Tell us how you really feel BH.
(I'm guessing he didn't get to the part where he got possibly-outed by VE...)
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Wade, thats out of line; even for scum
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@BH
Can you explain why you chose to mason GK and then VE?
Also, I think you might as well claim your role in full and tell us if you are allowed to post the mason logs or not. Probably wait until the daypost to do this though.
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On March 19 2013 13:07 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2013 13:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Here are my thoughts.
Wade Fell is SCUM!!
He has done nothing this game. The last game I played with him he aggressively pushed his reads and pressured suspects. He's done nothing like that in this thread. He showed early aggression based on weak reasoning, but all he's done since is defend GK. Literally.
But that's not all he's done. Wade Fell is also a mason. I know this because he's been masoned to me all during this phase. He claims to have been masoned to GK during the day. All he's done in this mason convo has been push his same weak arguments he made in the thread at first, then just passively agree with anything I said. He wasn't trying to divine my alignment. And if his posts are to be believe he didn't mason GK to divine his alignment either. He's been masoning town-reads. To what end? He's not bringing anything new to the table in mason chats, that's for sure.
This leads me to conclude that Wade Fell is some sort of scum mason attempting to manipulate townies. He claims he can mason a different person every phase, and phase one he chose GK and phase 2 he chose me.
Factor in the fact that we've already flipped one town-aligned mason role in Nightmare and I'm inclined to believe that WF's role is scum aligned even more.
So WF is scum. Talk about it.
Look, I'll admit GM wasn't my top scumread, which makes the swap to him look scummy. Normally I'd try to to voteswap shenannies to get my main dude lynched. But you know what? The deadline is at midnight PST, whcih is like ungodly oclock european time. There was no voteswap happening at the end of this day. I haven't been able to post as much as I'd like, but I've called it as I've seen it and weighed in on everything important that's happened in this damn game. Look at my filter and you'll see me taking positions, explaining myr easoning, and calling people out for bad reasoning on EVERYTHING because I am transparent. If you think I'm scum because I didn't have my vote on my top scumread at the end of the day, that's fine. I HAVE led good last-minute shennanies before and I didn't lead one this time. But you know what? DrH ended the day 10 minutes early. It wouldn't have worked anyways, and there weren't the people online for it, and if there were it doesnt' matter because the mod ended the day early.
You think this is scum BH, fine. I'll make a better case on someone else and we'll lynch them first. All I have to do is scumhunt better than the jubjubs and scum and push me, and I won't get lynched.
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On March 19 2013 13:31 sciberbia wrote:
@BH
Can you explain why you chose to mason GK and then VE?
Also, I think you might as well claim your role in full and tell us if you are allowed to post the mason logs or not. Probably wait until the daypost to do this though.
This: I'm actually pretty curious (I know people hate role speculation but fuck it, it interests me) because I'm pretty sure most people thought Nightmare would have been a scum-aligned role. Figuring out what your role is may help us get a handle of what else there might be in the game.
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On March 19 2013 13:32 Wade Fell wrote:
and I won't get lynched.
Potentially....but I put more faith in you're never getting shot
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On March 19 2013 13:31 sciberbia wrote:
@BH
Can you explain why you chose to mason GK and then VE?
Also, I think you might as well claim your role in full and tell us if you are allowed to post the mason logs or not. Probably wait until the daypost to do this though.
I masoned GK because I had a strong townread on him, and wanted to be absolutely sure in private communicaiton. If I mason scum I'm dead immediately (or perhaps, even sooner than usual) since they'll know I'm a blue. I masoned VE because I have a townread on him and as vets we are likely to be shot N1, so this was probably my best chance to talk to him.
My role is The Messenger. Oats tells me am not allowed to quote my role PM or flavour, but I can tell you the specifics of my role. Each phase I may mason with a person, but I can not mason with the same person twice. It is not clear if I am allowed to post logs.
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On March 19 2013 13:31 sciberbia wrote:
@BH
Can you explain why you chose to mason GK and then VE?
Also, I think you might as well claim your role in full and tell us if you are allowed to post the mason logs or not. Probably wait until the daypost to do this though.
Yo scib
I still haven't finished reading (I got caught up in huge IRC chat, and Hydra+Personality ending), but why do you seem all bark and no bite this game? You know I have a *TON* of respect for your town game. I'm not feeling it so far this game, though. What do?
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As an aside, another reason I masoned GK is that I've interacted with him in QTs before when I coached him, and I knew I'd be able to get a perfect read on him from doing so, as well as help his scumhunting.
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That's all you have to say for yourself? how typical. How geript of you.
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Look unlike you, I don't need to make up for a high squeaky voice with an abnormally large epeen.
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