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hmm... you bring up a really good point with Prom Golems.
I'm going through his filter again as well and other than him exposing OE there really isn't anything else worth noting. There's a lot of nothing in his last page other than attacking other players.
I mean even his contribution to the VE lynch isn't a lot outside of a meta read. It doesn't seem like it took a lot of effort from Prom to catch him. Especially considering he's barely been playing the game.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 17 2013 05:26 Promato wrote:
lol, this is bullshit.
I was the first one to nail VE as mafia.
I have subsequently waited to see what people do in repsonse to this.
Only you have done anything that isn't call him mafia, which is either the dumbest move in the thread, or a sign that you're just bad town.
The thing I have to consider is; would mafia bus VE here or not? My instinct says yes, but you coming in here and accusing me over sitting back and watching today is bullshit. I caught one mafia, and I'm in the process of catching another.
It's also good to have confidence in your reads but while we are still discussing scum OE he seems to know what alignment OE will be when they flip without a doubt. I mean when I read through OE's filter I think he's scum because all of their "cases" are summaries with no real opinions. They don't seem to discuss how to catch scum at all or try to really figure anything out that would help town. OE is scummy for a lot of reasons but Prom doesn't really address that.
Prom just says meta read! OE scum! after ignoring them up to that point and while lurking. Basically "VE looks scummy, what does everybody else think about my observation?"
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Uh... what Prom? Could you actually go and read where you get mentioned by me and explain how I'm so focused on you. Damn straight I'm keeping you open as possible scum though. You want a free pass for saying "Meta-read on OE" and him going afk for the next 24 hours? Golems raised a very good point otherwise I wouldn't have considered you to be possible scum depending on OE's flip. He just made me realize why I would have been wrong to do that.
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Quickly reading through the thread, I am getting annoyed.
In particular, Moology getting called out for low activity as if that makes me scum.
My meta = high activity regardless of alignment. My activity is low in both my games cos im simply busy in real life (did you forget: Heart of the Swarm was released??) and im finding most people in both my games are no present when I am present (which is the biggest constraint).
I already said numerous times in the thread, including pre-game: in general, i just dont have much time for this game and was relying on Omni to do a lot of the leg work, and the fucker has a house willed with infested terrans..
Im trying my best to put some more time into the game; but fact is, both of us were content with where our vote was 15min into this cycle. i.e. ObliviousEyes. Their followup has caused us no reason to doubt the validity of the vote either.
Moology have been transparent and forthcoming with our reads in each cycle: so I find it total bullshit we getting called out for not participating in every single convo.
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Good plan Newbie, im happy with that
Golems to "JK" Moology
and after the NK we will become confirmed.
I suspect a NK will still happen; cos "assuming JK exists" and is on us; means someone like Marv can be shot which should be "tempting" enough.
(moc)
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Right because in a 9 player game, Moology are one of the first to hard bus VE?
Being the first vote, gives the option to walk away.
Our vote essentially sealed the vote of SCUM... now you want to twist that as a scum move.. LOL.. nice try Prome
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On March 18 2013 09:42 Promato wrote:
Because I'm town and moo is scum.
This post is worthy of a 2013 mafia award lol
I know why you want me on the block prome; unfortunately its related to things outside this game.
Im not letting my first mislynch occur under that context.
Gonna have to try harder than that if you want some of my "dick" as you say
(moc)
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On March 18 2013 10:03 TLCastingGolems wrote:
Ok, so OE died as framer. Cool beans. That means there's probably not a roleblocker.
Any preference to who we jail? (I'm partial to prom myself)
-S4
Frame moology pl0x
Fact is: Both me n Omni have been really busy this game and havent been able to put as much "love" into the game as we hoped.
If this JK goes some way towards proving us confirmed town, Im happy to take the RB. I think we can afford 2 or 3 NKs, so it wont be done in vain.
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Pfft.. mocsta calls bullshit
As I said before, being the first voter is indicative of nothing. You can move off based on "a better read" at any time.
FT made a pretty detailed case.
Moology essentially sealed the fate for this scum team, & there is no fuckn way im going to let you or anyone else try and twist our vote into a bus. Moology were already suspicious of VE long before anyone made a case.. Its my last will - granted we didnt make a case, but the doubt was already there.
This whole situation reminds me of nomination mafia with Mr.CC.. CC bussed the fuck out of VE; and many refused to vote him (until Yam stepped up to the plate in a big way)..I can definitely see a team such as Promato using this tactic, given yams intimacy with it. Factor in that both posters have not been able to enter the thread as often as they like; and well.. it becomes even more viable to earn free town cred.
All the golems gotta do is frame moology, and QED we confirmed town and this game is one step closer to being solved (i.e. either promato is scum (most likely) or casting golems are scum RBs (less likely)
scum have to shoot this cycle (too many town mislynches to survive through if they try to frame us by not firing)
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On March 18 2013 12:31 Promato wrote:
Isn't it fun how Moo is stuck on framing. Because he was on a team with a scum framer and is focusing on that power role. I'm not one to call 'scumslip!' but he is scum slipping hard.
?? its called a frame; cos you guys trying to paint us as scum. its worded in the literal sense.. but hey
nice strawman attempt Prome
(moc)
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On March 18 2013 12:39 FiveTouch wrote:
(Also, it's pretty strange how both of you were so sure that golems was lying 24 hours ago, but now you're more interested in each other. What changed?)
I dont know if they are telling the truth.
But im confident scum will *try* and shoot. So if they are indeed JKs, its an easy way for us to become confirmed.
Im more than happy to ride that boat. We havnt played a scum game; as scum i dont sit by idly and *always* give a fuck about the game.
Whats interesting is ppl like yamato complaining they dont have time to read the thread; and in other games are making cases after reading 25 pages of filter... nice cover up I think; and fuck me if I am going to have my first mislynch when bullshit like that is happeneing
(moc)
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On March 18 2013 12:47 Promato wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 12:39 FiveTouch wrote:
I think you guys should fight about it.
(Also, it's pretty strange how both of you were so sure that golems was lying 24 hours ago, but now you're more interested in each other. What changed?) wat? I never thought the golems were lying. I've had them as town since day one.
Yeah.. so you guys bussed VE who conveniently doesnt post in this thread again, but is active in his other game
& *knew* golems are town lol.... yeah, *thats* what i call a slip
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Thats a reaction I expect from a demoralized scum..
fact is.. scum have no hope of winning this game; its basically solved.. so yeah, a reaction "im pissing off, see you in the morning" is completely to be expected
(moc)
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On March 18 2013 13:00 DrParnassus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 12:50 DrParnassus wrote:On March 18 2013 10:23 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 10:03 TLCastingGolems wrote:
Ok, so OE died as framer. Cool beans. That means there's probably not a roleblocker.
Any preference to who we jail? (I'm partial to prom myself)
-S4 Frame moology pl0x Fact is: Both me n Omni have been really busy this game and havent been able to put as much "love" into the game as we hoped. If this JK goes some way towards proving us confirmed town, Im happy to take the RB. I think we can afford 2 or 3 NKs, so it wont be done in vain. huuuuh. You blue or scum?
You asking something? Read rhetorical to me?
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On March 18 2013 13:03 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 12:52 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 12:47 Promato wrote:On March 18 2013 12:39 FiveTouch wrote:
I think you guys should fight about it.
(Also, it's pretty strange how both of you were so sure that golems was lying 24 hours ago, but now you're more interested in each other. What changed?) wat? I never thought the golems were lying. I've had them as town since day one. Yeah.. so you guys bussed VE who conveniently doesnt post in this thread again, but is active in his other game & *knew* golems are town lol.... yeah, *thats* what i call a slip How the fuck is that a scum slip? Rofl.
The point was, it was more of a slip, than what they are trying to fabricate on moology
(moc)
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On March 18 2013 13:07 DrParnassus wrote:
Moology, you are here.
In 5 minutes you better answer whether you are blue or scum.
Or I am policy lynching you for withholding information.
lol
how about insert option #3?
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On March 18 2013 13:08 Promato wrote:
Okay mocsta. I say we play a game. You pretend you know I am town and tell me who your next scumspect is. Explain why you suspect that person (hydra) and why they will look scummier after my green flip. In return I won't call you an idiot for the duration of this game.
Well the game is solved.
castingGolems *are* most likely town. I dont expect scum framer + scum RB'r
So they are either scum goon fake claiming (plausible due to VE lynch, but unlikely)
or actual blue role (most likely).
I know my role.. and i know my interactions with ppl like FT/Dr.P went someway to divining all our alignments as town..
so that leaves you as the lowest hanging fruit; in short: I cant play along because I can't envisage a different scenario.
(moc)
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On March 18 2013 13:12 DrParnassus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 13:12 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 13:07 DrParnassus wrote:
Moology, you are here.
In 5 minutes you better answer whether you are blue or scum.
Or I am policy lynching you for withholding information.
lol how about insert option #3? What is that option?
The game has 3 roles does it not?
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On March 18 2013 13:17 DrParnassus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 13:15 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 13:12 DrParnassus wrote:On March 18 2013 13:12 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 13:07 DrParnassus wrote:
Moology, you are here.
In 5 minutes you better answer whether you are blue or scum.
Or I am policy lynching you for withholding information.
lol how about insert option #3? What is that option? The game has 3 roles does it not? gnnnh? Explain pl0x
2 words
1st starts with a V
2nd starts with a T
fuckn flood cotnrol
(moc)
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On March 18 2013 13:23 TLCastingGolems wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 13:15 Moology wrote:On March 18 2013 13:08 Promato wrote:
Okay mocsta. I say we play a game. You pretend you know I am town and tell me who your next scumspect is. Explain why you suspect that person (hydra) and why they will look scummier after my green flip. In return I won't call you an idiot for the duration of this game. Well the game is solved. castingGolems *are* most likely town. I dont expect scum framer + scum RB'r So they are either scum goon fake claiming (plausible due to VE lynch, but unlikely)or actual blue role (most likely). I know my role.. and i know my interactions with ppl like FT/Dr.P went someway to divining all our alignments as town.. so that leaves you as the lowest hanging fruit; in short: I cant play along because I can't envisage a different scenario. (moc) How exactly is that even plausible? Newbie WAS roleblocked. If we were a goon that would not have happened. If we were goon fakeclaiming RB or JK then why no counterclaim JK, making it easy as fuck to catch us in a lie and lynch?
No1 knows if Newbie was RB'd as the OP says its not telegraphed....
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