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DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 06:12 GMT
#457
Im asking yamato, not you keir :/
WHY MUST YOU ANSWER!!

/oats
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 06:37 GMT
#461
On March 15 2013 15:34 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 15:18 Promato wrote:
On March 15 2013 15:04 DrParnassus wrote:
On March 15 2013 15:00 Promato wrote:
Is that a loaded question?'

Obviously it looks bad, coupled with what I've said about Hapa.


Iamp/Hapa hydra has a pretty big filter this game though, how can you say that Iamp isnt being in the spotlight?


I just reread that filter, and it's Hapa who is being active, not iamp.

I really don't feel like they're worth pursuing any longer. Hapa does not look disinterested, despite the low activity. Compared to some, he is kind of spammy actually.

Well, I dont think that being spammy in itself is a town tell, but I do think Hapa has been decently interested in the game, and giving some useful insights.

I was kind of like Throats, leaning town on Hapa, leaning scum on iamp. But the WIFOMy iamp thing is enough that I'm pretty okay with them for now.

Now, what does that mean about the big case from Golems about ObsQT?


nothing, becuase hapa/iamp are unflipped?

castinggolems #1 townread btw

-tom waits
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 06:46 GMT
#463
On March 15 2013 15:18 Promato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 15:04 DrParnassus wrote:
On March 15 2013 15:00 Promato wrote:
Is that a loaded question?'

Obviously it looks bad, coupled with what I've said about Hapa.


Iamp/Hapa hydra has a pretty big filter this game though, how can you say that Iamp isnt being in the spotlight?


I just reread that filter, and it's Hapa who is being active, not iamp.

I really don't feel like they're worth pursuing any longer. Hapa does not look disinterested, despite the low activity. Compared to some, he is kind of spammy actually.


So who is scum then?
Since your top scum read isnt actually scum anymore?
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 06:50 GMT
#466
On March 15 2013 15:29 Promato wrote:

Plus I fucking abhor policy shit like this, and when it comes from VE, I hate it even more.


you're so silly, that was a response to a question that YOUR fucking partner asked
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 06:52 GMT
#467
On March 15 2013 15:29 Promato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 04:18 ObliviousEyes wrote:
I am willing to consolidate upon the lurker WittyHydraName. I think Palmugs more likely to flip scum.

Filtering VE/OO, and this quote looks particularly bad.

Summary of their filter is:

-Criticise Casting Golems/Call them mafia offhandedly
-Talk about Dirk like it's going to change anything
-Make this horrid post

So as for difficulty of targets picked, this hydra gets a zero. I don't even know their reads on anyone else in the game, to be honest.

Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 17:07 ObliviousEyes wrote:
I'm trying to figure out his motivations. Like, I just don't know what he's trying to accomplish with that question. The "really really" was just me being a jerk about it.

I'm trying to figure out if there's a difference between Named VTs claiming today and Named VTs just counterclaiming scum if they try and fakeclaim it at lynch time.

Is there any? I guess it would depend on the circumstances. What if we just agree to go ahead and lynch Named VTs if they are counterclaimed on the block? It could be a thing where there are more than one Named VT, but it would be the same thing if two Named VTs claimed now wouldn't it?

Eehhhhhhhhh actually I like it. If the Named VTs claim now then scum cannot use it as a fakeclaim later unless they do it right now, and if they do they run the risk of being outted as scum to the other PRs if there are any. We know that there is a maximum of 2 blues, so if 2 NVTs claim and there's a cop for instance, then he gets a guaranteed scum check that night...or if there's a doctor then there's a 100% chance that there's a mafia in the 2 NVT claims which is also powerful even if the doctor doesn't claim to out him.

Named VTs should claim.


Plus I fucking abhor policy shit like this, and when it comes from VE, I hate it even more.

[/QUOTE]


This isnt an analysis, this is shitting on VE. How is any of this scummy? Going after 'easy' targets isnt scummy cause they are PROBABLY scum anyway.

This is a decent post about his thought process regarding named vts. I was struggling with it cause I dont like claiming but it made sense.
/oats
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 06:54 GMT
#470
On March 15 2013 15:47 FiveTouch wrote:
Do explain why they are your #1 town read though, plx.


well I admit that I only have 1 reason why I think they are town, however I think it's a good one... it's the type of reason which, if I were to divulge the logic behind it, the reasoning would suddenly stop being applicable going forwards.

-tom waits
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 08:03 GMT
#474
On March 15 2013 16:44 Moology wrote:
While I do agree that Newbie exhibits some scummy characteristics that have already been pointed out I would argue that Newbie is not the scummiest player in this game. One player has consistently avoided giving any relevant information and I would even consider him to be intentionally trying to muck up the thread with his useless posts.

Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 22:28 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
On March 13 2013 22:27 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 13 2013 22:26 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
On March 13 2013 22:24 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 13 2013 22:22 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
On March 13 2013 22:20 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 13 2013 22:16 DrParnassus wrote:
On March 13 2013 20:11 WittyHydraName wrote:
Oats/Thrawn, whoever threw down the vote on Golems

My other head asked you a question at the top of this page:

On March 13 2013 16:29 Snarfs wrote:
Also DrParnassus, why are CastingGolems scum? Can you not think of any town reason for doing what they are doing?

- S-head.


Otherwise, VE, you seem to be making sense. Is this the game we we're dreaming about in the Hero mafia scum QT where we both roll town? In that post you were asking if one hydra head was asking for an opinion from the other head, he wasnt. He was asking for your opinion on his case on mocsta (OE is you.)


Nope I dont think he is scum. NEXT QUESTION PLEASE.

Also lynch Iamp/Hapa hydra please, utterly useless and trying to sheep off marv.

how does me sheeping off of marv make me mafia dear?


I think it makes marv mafia.

We should lynch marv, nothing but good can come from it.


Like that destroyed game LVIII? Ok dear.


That game was cool until some weakling ragequit under tiny bit of pressure.

are we going to hunt scum or just do personal attacks?


Personal attacks.

I don't need to scumhunt, I already know who's town and who's scum.


This is wonderful. The only people who know who is town and who is scum ARE the scum. Unintentional slip while trying to be funny?

Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 22:29 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
wanna fight about it?


This is needless. How does this help town at all? All it does is aggravate people. More scummy crap to try and distract us. This seems to be a theme in his posting.

Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 22:38 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
is this instant majority?

Cause I'll totally hammer that shit


Absolutely no care about who is being lynched.

Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 22:45 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
So many choices.

Hey. how about a RNG decided lynch?


More proof of not caring about who gets lynched.


What I can gather from it all is that he doesn't care who gets lynched.
Isn't interested in helping town
Isn't interested in scum hunting,
and ultimately doesn't care about contributing at all.

As much as I think Newbie looks suspect at the moment, there were some posts in his filter that I can see coming from a town oriented mind set. With Dirk I can't find that at all. All I can see is an extremely disruptive scum, Not even clever scum, attempting to muck up the thread with his useless posts. I can see no benefit for town to keep him with us for another day/night. Nor can I see a reason at all that we should let him survive and continue to make a mess of things for us.

It is the same argument that was used to lynch Witty over Dirk. One of them has the potential to help town, while the other has done absolutely nothing. As evident during the lynch deadline, it is clear Dirk doesn't care about who gets lynched.
Not only that, but they managed to not give a shit jumping on board a mislynch WHILE not telling us about any other reads.


Lets say, Dirk is intentionally trolling, and those posts that you have quoted are meant by Dirk to look fucking bad. Does that still make him scum?
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 08:23 GMT
#478
Sorry, we haven't done a good job of always signing our posts. We disagree on a lot of things so that might be causing some confusion.

/Oats
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 08:28 GMT
#480
On March 15 2013 17:21 Moology wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 17:03 DrParnassus wrote:
Lets say, Dirk is intentionally trolling, and those posts that you have quoted are meant by Dirk to look fucking bad. Does that still make him scum?

(moc)

Hold on a second there.. You admit he looks terribad...

so why are you sticking up for Dirk instead of letting them speak?


I thought your other half said you guys would be quiet for the cycle?


Since you asked the question; I didnt think the trolilng by itself made Dirk scum. What OE walked me through was his thoughts on the lynch deadline specifically the Dirk "throw-away" vote.

So I agree with OE; the combination of: trolling, lack of genuine reads, and lack of care regarding final vote;
does point towards scum motives.

I would have loved to extract more information from them to develop the read further; but first, we need to stop replying on their behalf.



Ok.
His trolling INCLUDES the lack of reads, and the lack of care.

Dont you think that marv or someone else wouldve picked up on this earlier, if it wasnt obvious that Dirk is playing like out scum and that its just a joke?
Or do you think that you stumbled upon scum that no one suspected?
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 08:29 GMT
#481
On March 15 2013 17:27 Moology wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 17:21 Moology wrote:
I would have loved to extract more information from them to develop the read further; but first, we need to stop replying on their behalf.

EBWOP

First, we need *YOU* to stop replying on their behalf.

(moc)

@ ThrOats


Why are you telling me how to play? Do you think that the stuff I brought up is inaccurate and subjective? Or you just cant wrap your head around the fact that he is trolling, and you guys made a lol post.

/oats(this one and the one above)
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 08:32 GMT
#482
On March 15 2013 17:21 Moology wrote:
I thought your other half said you guys would be quiet for the cycle?


That was thrawn who said that and I think it's stupid and I'm not going to go along with it

/oats
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 08:41 GMT
#485
On March 15 2013 17:36 Moology wrote:
(moc)
When I or my other slot puts pressure on someone.. and you step in and cock block.. yes.. im gonna tell you how to play - every... single... time

You are stopping us from developing our reads and for what purpose?

If you have a strong town read on the guy; then pipe up and notify why.

Otherwise, stay out of it and develop your read from the "supposed interaction"

In the opinion of OE, and myself: The behaviour of Dirk has gone beyond trolling and is now anti-town.
Where is a single fuckn read other than a spam of "Marv is scum"
Where is a care given into figuring out this game.

Fact: Nomination Mafia, Palmar trolled in a different way to this game. And when he came into the thread, within 2 or 3 posts it was CLEAR he was town. We all know he can be town if he wants to.... and so far.. their play is suspect.

Oats: If I didnt have a town read on you, I woulda thought you are pre-empting pressure on a buddy.


Yeah no im not pre-empting pressure. I am destroying a stupid case.

If you want to make a post on why his trolling is scummy, then go ahead. But that case you made is not about Dirk trolling, its about the posts that he INTENTIONALLY put in the game in order to troll. That isnt alignment indicative.
He appears to not care cause trolling, no reads cause trolling.

However, if you think that his trolling is SCUMMY, and why, then I wont destroy it and I will let dirk answer. Before that, no, just no.

/oats
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 08:42 GMT
#486
EBWOP:

I think thrawn wants to lynch dirk tomorrow based an conversation I had with him if that makes you feel any better...

As for why I cock-blocked you, I just can't quit you man

/oats

DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 09:07 GMT
#489
On March 15 2013 18:03 Moology wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 17:52 Mocsta wrote:
On phone

quit me?



So are you gonna make a new case? Or not?

Ok do you have a second scum read?
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 09:09 GMT
#490
EBWOP:

On March 15 2013 18:03 Moology wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 17:52 Mocsta wrote:
On phone

quit me?



You know, the way jake gyllenhaal wishes he could quit heath ledger.

+ Show Spoiler [maybe this will clear things up] +
[image loading]


The point is, lets put this argument to rest and argue about more meaningful things

/oats
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 09:40 GMT
#493
On March 15 2013 18:37 Moology wrote:
Now thats me making a Hardpec style post

Now if anyone tries to call me scummy for that.. i expect you to jump in and defend my honour by saying that their qutoe is bullshit, because everytime they comment on someone acting scummy

a CASE IS REQUIRED

(moc)



No im confused. I responded and then you went silent, I dont really care that you were trolling.

Come on talk to me.

Other reads?

/oats
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 10:10 GMT
#496
On March 15 2013 18:51 Moology wrote:
Show nested quote +
Seriously Oats; dont fuckn cock-block me again when trying to pressure someone. Unless they are a fuckn probably town read for you; you have no reason to not be interested in the interaction. And so far, you have shown nothing that indicates Hardpec is a probably town read for you.



I didnt cockblock you.
You posted a fallacious case from the get-go. It didnt make sense, and the stuff you brought up, was so obvious a blind man could see it.
What do you think about EVERYONE ignoring the fact that Dirk is so 'scummy'? Do you, or do you not agree with the fact that if Dirk wanted to be called scum, he would play in the exact same way?
What do you think it means about Dirk, or about certain other people.
If marv said what I said, would you react in the same way?
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 10:12 GMT
#497
On March 15 2013 18:52 Moology wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 18:40 DrParnassus wrote:
I responded and then you went silent,

Its called. I just got home

and now im about to head out

Omni, should be available before deadline if you want something specific

(moc)


Its called you had time to make a stupid post and no time, like 2 minutes more to post something regarding my observations of Dirk.

Lol.

/oats(here and above)
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 16:03 GMT
#510
On March 16 2013 00:05 FiveTouch wrote:
fine, I'll be serious for a moment, even though I think you're hilarious.

1) what you're describing isn't my lazy scumplay, it's an outright slip. Even in my 'lazy' scumgames I don't outright slip. I'm too good, too meticulous. You know this.

2) Given the flip, and the play apart from it, it seems pretty likely to me that Dirk is mafia, so looking at who helped moved the lynch from Dirk to Witty makes sense.

~marv


The lynch on Dirk was pure OMGUS, in terms of you are lynching Dirk for being bad.

Seriously do you dont agree with the fact that Dirk is playing like an outed scum? Why would he do that as scum?
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 15 2013 16:25 GMT
#513
On March 16 2013 01:16 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 01:03 DrParnassus wrote:
On March 16 2013 00:05 FiveTouch wrote:
fine, I'll be serious for a moment, even though I think you're hilarious.

1) what you're describing isn't my lazy scumplay, it's an outright slip. Even in my 'lazy' scumgames I don't outright slip. I'm too good, too meticulous. You know this.

2) Given the flip, and the play apart from it, it seems pretty likely to me that Dirk is mafia, so looking at who helped moved the lynch from Dirk to Witty makes sense.

~marv


The lynch on Dirk was pure OMGUS, in terms of you are lynching Dirk for being bad.

Seriously do you dont agree with the fact that Dirk is playing like an outed scum? Why would he do that as scum?


Why would he do that as town?

Why would he say he expected Witty to flip town, and if this is the case why didn't he look for a mafia to lynch?


this is thrawn and I agree with this. NOONE should have thought wittyname was going to flip town. that mindset is so incompatible with a townie's reality that it almost guarantees dirk's guilt

i expect oats and myself will be fighting over this but whatever.

besides all that, we only have 2 mislynches before game over and there is no way that we're letting dirk survive till endgame

@hapa, i'd really like to see more out of you because every time iamp opens his mouth I want to lynch you guys. that last case he made rings incredibly false in my poor hungover ears

IAMP WHY SO SRS?
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