Hydra Mini Mafia - Page 5

On March 15 2013 15:34 FiveTouch wrote:

Well, I dont think that being spammy in itself is a town tell, but I do think Hapa has been decently interested in the game, and giving some useful insights.

I was kind of like Throats, leaning town on Hapa, leaning scum on iamp. But the WIFOMy iamp thing is enough that I'm pretty okay with them for now.

Now, what does that mean about the big case from Golems about ObsQT?

On March 15 2013 15:18 Promato wrote:

I just reread that filter, and it's Hapa who is being active, not iamp.

I really don't feel like they're worth pursuing any longer. Hapa does not look disinterested, despite the low activity. Compared to some, he is kind of spammy actually.

On March 15 2013 15:29 Promato wrote:

Plus I fucking abhor policy shit like this, and when it comes from VE, I hate it even more.

On March 15 2013 15:29 Promato wrote:

Filtering VE/OO, and this quote looks particularly bad.

Summary of their filter is:

-Criticise Casting Golems/Call them mafia offhandedly
-Talk about Dirk like it's going to change anything
-Make this horrid post

So as for difficulty of targets picked, this hydra gets a zero. I don't even know their reads on anyone else in the game, to be honest.



Plus I fucking abhor policy shit like this, and when it comes from VE, I hate it even more.

On March 15 2013 15:47 FiveTouch wrote:
Do explain why they are your #1 town read though, plx.

On March 15 2013 16:44 Moology wrote:
While I do agree that Newbie exhibits some scummy characteristics that have already been pointed out I would argue that Newbie is not the scummiest player in this game. One player has consistently avoided giving any relevant information and I would even consider him to be intentionally trying to muck up the thread with his useless posts.



This is wonderful. The only people who know who is town and who is scum ARE the scum. Unintentional slip while trying to be funny?



This is needless. How does this help town at all? All it does is aggravate people. More scummy crap to try and distract us. This seems to be a theme in his posting.



Absolutely no care about who is being lynched.



More proof of not caring about who gets lynched.


What I can gather from it all is that he doesn't care who gets lynched.
Isn't interested in helping town
Isn't interested in scum hunting,
and ultimately doesn't care about contributing at all.

As much as I think Newbie looks suspect at the moment, there were some posts in his filter that I can see coming from a town oriented mind set. With Dirk I can't find that at all. All I can see is an extremely disruptive scum, Not even clever scum, attempting to muck up the thread with his useless posts. I can see no benefit for town to keep him with us for another day/night. Nor can I see a reason at all that we should let him survive and continue to make a mess of things for us.

It is the same argument that was used to lynch Witty over Dirk. One of them has the potential to help town, while the other has done absolutely nothing. As evident during the lynch deadline, it is clear Dirk doesn't care about who gets lynched.
Not only that, but they managed to not give a shit jumping on board a mislynch WHILE not telling us about any other reads.

On March 15 2013 17:21 Moology wrote:

(moc)

Hold on a second there.. You admit he looks terribad...

so why are you sticking up for Dirk instead of letting them speak?


I thought your other half said you guys would be quiet for the cycle?


Since you asked the question; I didnt think the trolilng by itself made Dirk scum. What OE walked me through was his thoughts on the lynch deadline specifically the Dirk "throw-away" vote.

So I agree with OE; the combination of: trolling, lack of genuine reads, and lack of care regarding final vote;
does point towards scum motives.

I would have loved to extract more information from them to develop the read further; but first, we need to stop replying on their behalf.

On March 15 2013 17:27 Moology wrote:

EBWOP

First, we need *YOU* to stop replying on their behalf.

(moc)

@ ThrOats

On March 15 2013 17:36 Moology wrote:
(moc)
When I or my other slot puts pressure on someone.. and you step in and cock block.. yes.. im gonna tell you how to play - every... single... time

You are stopping us from developing our reads and for what purpose?

If you have a strong town read on the guy; then pipe up and notify why.

Otherwise, stay out of it and develop your read from the "supposed interaction"

In the opinion of OE, and myself: The behaviour of Dirk has gone beyond trolling and is now anti-town.
Where is a single fuckn read other than a spam of "Marv is scum"
Where is a care given into figuring out this game.

Fact: Nomination Mafia, Palmar trolled in a different way to this game. And when he came into the thread, within 2 or 3 posts it was CLEAR he was town. We all know he can be town if he wants to.... and so far.. their play is suspect.

Oats: If I didnt have a town read on you, I woulda thought you are pre-empting pressure on a buddy.

On March 15 2013 18:37 Moology wrote:
Now thats me making a Hardpec style post

Now if anyone tries to call me scummy for that.. i expect you to jump in and defend my honour by saying that their qutoe is bullshit, because everytime they comment on someone acting scummy

a CASE IS REQUIRED

(moc)

On March 15 2013 18:52 Moology wrote:

Its called. I just got home

and now im about to head out

Omni, should be available before deadline if you want something specific

(moc)

On March 16 2013 00:05 FiveTouch wrote:
fine, I'll be serious for a moment, even though I think you're hilarious.

1) what you're describing isn't my lazy scumplay, it's an outright slip. Even in my 'lazy' scumgames I don't outright slip. I'm too good, too meticulous. You know this.

2) Given the flip, and the play apart from it, it seems pretty likely to me that Dirk is mafia, so looking at who helped moved the lynch from Dirk to Witty makes sense.

~marv

On March 16 2013 01:16 FiveTouch wrote:


Why would he do that as town?

Why would he say he expected Witty to flip town, and if this is the case why didn't he look for a mafia to lynch?