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NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 15 2013 23:19 GMT
#621
sheep marv

really doubt he's scum. perhaps lynch at lylo, but w/e - segment on OO makes too much sense.

##Vote ObviousEyes
The two man power trip.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 23:26 GMT
#622
Well, policy lynch me tomorrow if I'm wrong I guess ;p

With Dirk flipping town, it just makes it more likely that OE is scum, because for him not to be scum, two people I'm leaning town on have to be mafia, which I don't buy (and I refuse to be that bad :/).

~marv
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 15 2013 23:26 GMT
#623
##Vote: ObliviousEyes
Artanis & marv
Moology
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy144 Posts
March 15 2013 23:54 GMT
#624
What the fuck...

##Vote: ObliviousEyes

With Dirk's death that really puts me off on calling Newbie scum. He should know that once Dirk is gone he's next in a lot of peoples minds. It doesn't make sense. OE looks like a good candidate and I'm starting to really want to hear from Golems again.
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 16 2013 00:13 GMT
#625
maybe all the flips thus far have been lies?
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 16 2013 00:18 GMT
#626
but on a serious note.... VE being scum makes a whole lot of sense when you take into account that the most lynchable player was nk'd. nobody else is that insane creative
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 16 2013 00:25 GMT
#627
##Vote: DrParnassus

there is no need to state the obvious so if you do, i'll probably just troll in response. this is my real vote for d2 and I don't intend on changing it unless I think scum isn't going to get lynched.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 16 2013 00:28 GMT
#628
On March 16 2013 09:25 DrParnassus wrote:
##Vote: DrParnassus

there is no need to state the obvious so if you do, i'll probably just troll in response. this is my real vote for d2 and I don't intend on changing it unless I think scum isn't going to get lynched.

What the actual fuck?
Artanis & marv
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 16 2013 00:34 GMT
#629
everyone's both town and scum alike is probably gonna sheep you marv so don't worry about it. i don't want to vote this cycle, but i'm required to do so. this is the closest I can come to throwing away my vote within the rules of the game

btw, marv pls don't post again lest you reach the unholy number and doom us all
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 16 2013 00:39 GMT
#630
On March 16 2013 09:34 DrParnassus wrote:
everyone's both town and scum alike is probably gonna sheep you marv so don't worry about it. i don't want to vote this cycle, but i'm required to do so. this is the closest I can come to throwing away my vote within the rules of the game

btw, marv pls don't post again lest you reach the unholy number and doom us all

Why in the hell would you not want to vote? Literally this line of thinking makes 0 fucking sense.
Artanis & marv
NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 16 2013 00:40 GMT
#631
##Unvote

I'm too damn paranoid. The simplest explanation for the NK is that marv ordered the kill. I don't know how likely that is, but I need to pursue it to see if it has merit. It was a fucking weird-ass NK for anyone here to make, and today shouldn't be a "sheep marv blindly" day without additional reasons to trust him.

@ Marv
There are two reasons why I'm concerned.
1) You did something very similar in DeathNote Mini, where you wanted to kill Palmar on Day 1, but couldn't because of wonky-kill mechanics and the town mislynching Palmar Day 1.
2) Palmar does have a history of trolling Day 1. DeathNote Mini comes to mind, where he just made like 2 posts the entirety of the day. As such, this explanation in your "martyr" post comes across as dishonest:
Dirk Hardpec - so yes, this guy is mafia. It's clear enough, it's been mentioned why - the trolling, the "I knew he'd flip town but did nothing about doing something else", the lack of anything.

Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 03:47 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
Please hold some of your questions. I'll convince yall I'm town tomorrow.


Do *not* be fooled by this. This is typical vettish scumplay from Palmar (probably bugs too). I'll contribute later... just you wait... I'll prove I'm town... and then there'll be a post that these players are very capable of making look good or convincing. What you need to remember is that they have not contributed in the slightest so far. That's actually the important issue. Don't forget, also, that Palmar is well known for having Day 1 as his absolute best day. Like, by far. He catches mafia regularly Day 1, and tails off after. There's a post he made about this in the obsQT for Hero Mini Mafia if you're really interested in checking what I've said. The salient point being that theoretical town-Palmar has wasted his absolute best day of catching mafia, on the offhand promise that he'll do better tomorrow, and willingly lynching into town. He must die.


Palmar does waste Day 1's as town. Not often, but he does. This is a pretty clear misrepresentation of his play, and you definetely know his history.
The two man power trip.
Dirk Hardpec
Profile Joined March 2012
United States73 Posts
March 16 2013 00:52 GMT
#632
On March 16 2013 08:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Day 2
The following events transpired for Dirk Hardpec:



It is now Day 2! You have 48 hours to bring out your vote. Failing to do so will result in a modkill without warning.


[image loading]

/Ace
How this goes?
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 16 2013 01:05 GMT
#633
On March 16 2013 09:40 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
##Unvote

I'm too damn paranoid. The simplest explanation for the NK is that marv ordered the kill. I don't know how likely that is, but I need to pursue it to see if it has merit. It was a fucking weird-ass NK for anyone here to make, and today shouldn't be a "sheep marv blindly" day without additional reasons to trust him.

@ Marv
There are two reasons why I'm concerned.
1) You did something very similar in DeathNote Mini, where you wanted to kill Palmar on Day 1, but couldn't because of wonky-kill mechanics and the town mislynching Palmar Day 1.
2) Palmar does have a history of trolling Day 1. DeathNote Mini comes to mind, where he just made like 2 posts the entirety of the day. As such, this explanation in your "martyr" post comes across as dishonest:
Show nested quote +
Dirk Hardpec - so yes, this guy is mafia. It's clear enough, it's been mentioned why - the trolling, the "I knew he'd flip town but did nothing about doing something else", the lack of anything.

On March 16 2013 03:47 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
Please hold some of your questions. I'll convince yall I'm town tomorrow.


Do *not* be fooled by this. This is typical vettish scumplay from Palmar (probably bugs too). I'll contribute later... just you wait... I'll prove I'm town... and then there'll be a post that these players are very capable of making look good or convincing. What you need to remember is that they have not contributed in the slightest so far. That's actually the important issue. Don't forget, also, that Palmar is well known for having Day 1 as his absolute best day. Like, by far. He catches mafia regularly Day 1, and tails off after. There's a post he made about this in the obsQT for Hero Mini Mafia if you're really interested in checking what I've said. The salient point being that theoretical town-Palmar has wasted his absolute best day of catching mafia, on the offhand promise that he'll do better tomorrow, and willingly lynching into town. He must die.


Palmar does waste Day 1's as town. Not often, but he does. This is a pretty clear misrepresentation of his play, and you definetely know his history.


Since when did I ask this to be a sheep marv day? What the fuck is wrong with all you people? Either you agree with my case or you don't. If you have an alternative explanation for OO's posts, I'm all ears.

GO AND READ THEM YOURSELF. I think OE is the best lynch, if the rest of you don't, do something the fuck about it rather than fucking whining like little bitches that it's just sheep marv day. Jesus christ.

To repeat to you, Hapa, I accused Palmar of being mafia for wasting his Day 1, and bugs as town doesn't usually waste Day 1s. Can you find me a single example in living memory where bugs did nothing as town on Day 1? I sure as hell can't.

~marv
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 16 2013 01:06 GMT
#634
On March 16 2013 09:34 DrParnassus wrote:
everyone's both town and scum alike is probably gonna sheep you marv so don't worry about it. i don't want to vote this cycle, but i'm required to do so. this is the closest I can come to throwing away my vote within the rules of the game

btw, marv pls don't post again lest you reach the unholy number and doom us all


this is just pathetic. absolutely pathetic. it incenses me.
Artanis & marv
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 16 2013 01:06 GMT
#635
Count the Votes:

ObliviousEyes (3): Promato, FiveTouch, Moology
DrParnassus (1): DrParnassus

Currently, ObliviousEyes is set to be lynched!
~46 hours left until the deadline.


Full Version:+ Show Spoiler +

ObliviousEyes (3): Promato, NewbieXXXI_ObsQT, FiveTouch, Moology
DrParnassus (1): DrParnassus
A backwards poet writes inverse.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 16 2013 01:07 GMT
#636
On March 16 2013 10:05 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 09:40 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
##Unvote

I'm too damn paranoid. The simplest explanation for the NK is that marv ordered the kill. I don't know how likely that is, but I need to pursue it to see if it has merit. It was a fucking weird-ass NK for anyone here to make, and today shouldn't be a "sheep marv blindly" day without additional reasons to trust him.

@ Marv
There are two reasons why I'm concerned.
1) You did something very similar in DeathNote Mini, where you wanted to kill Palmar on Day 1, but couldn't because of wonky-kill mechanics and the town mislynching Palmar Day 1.
2) Palmar does have a history of trolling Day 1. DeathNote Mini comes to mind, where he just made like 2 posts the entirety of the day. As such, this explanation in your "martyr" post comes across as dishonest:
Dirk Hardpec - so yes, this guy is mafia. It's clear enough, it's been mentioned why - the trolling, the "I knew he'd flip town but did nothing about doing something else", the lack of anything.

On March 16 2013 03:47 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
Please hold some of your questions. I'll convince yall I'm town tomorrow.


Do *not* be fooled by this. This is typical vettish scumplay from Palmar (probably bugs too). I'll contribute later... just you wait... I'll prove I'm town... and then there'll be a post that these players are very capable of making look good or convincing. What you need to remember is that they have not contributed in the slightest so far. That's actually the important issue. Don't forget, also, that Palmar is well known for having Day 1 as his absolute best day. Like, by far. He catches mafia regularly Day 1, and tails off after. There's a post he made about this in the obsQT for Hero Mini Mafia if you're really interested in checking what I've said. The salient point being that theoretical town-Palmar has wasted his absolute best day of catching mafia, on the offhand promise that he'll do better tomorrow, and willingly lynching into town. He must die.


Palmar does waste Day 1's as town. Not often, but he does. This is a pretty clear misrepresentation of his play, and you definetely know his history.


Since when did I ask this to be a sheep marv day? What the fuck is wrong with all you people? Either you agree with my case or you don't. If you have an alternative explanation for OO's posts, I'm all ears.

GO AND READ THEM YOURSELF. I think OE is the best lynch, if the rest of you don't, do something the fuck about it rather than fucking whining like little bitches that it's just sheep marv day. Jesus christ.

To repeat to you, Hapa, I accused Palmar of being mafia for wasting his Day 1, and bugs as town doesn't usually waste Day 1s. Can you find me a single example in living memory where bugs did nothing as town on Day 1? I sure as hell can't.

~marv


EBWOP: *in LVIII, with regards to Palmar. I don't even care about this, it's so irrelevant.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 16 2013 01:08 GMT
#637
On March 16 2013 09:40 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
##Unvote

I'm too damn paranoid. The simplest explanation for the NK is that marv ordered the kill. I don't know how likely that is, but I need to pursue it to see if it has merit. It was a fucking weird-ass NK for anyone here to make, and today shouldn't be a "sheep marv blindly" day without additional reasons to trust him.

@ Marv
There are two reasons why I'm concerned.
1) You did something very similar in DeathNote Mini, where you wanted to kill Palmar on Day 1, but couldn't because of wonky-kill mechanics and the town mislynching Palmar Day 1.
2) Palmar does have a history of trolling Day 1. DeathNote Mini comes to mind, where he just made like 2 posts the entirety of the day. As such, this explanation in your "martyr" post comes across as dishonest:
Show nested quote +
Dirk Hardpec - so yes, this guy is mafia. It's clear enough, it's been mentioned why - the trolling, the "I knew he'd flip town but did nothing about doing something else", the lack of anything.

On March 16 2013 03:47 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
Please hold some of your questions. I'll convince yall I'm town tomorrow.


Do *not* be fooled by this. This is typical vettish scumplay from Palmar (probably bugs too). I'll contribute later... just you wait... I'll prove I'm town... and then there'll be a post that these players are very capable of making look good or convincing. What you need to remember is that they have not contributed in the slightest so far. That's actually the important issue. Don't forget, also, that Palmar is well known for having Day 1 as his absolute best day. Like, by far. He catches mafia regularly Day 1, and tails off after. There's a post he made about this in the obsQT for Hero Mini Mafia if you're really interested in checking what I've said. The salient point being that theoretical town-Palmar has wasted his absolute best day of catching mafia, on the offhand promise that he'll do better tomorrow, and willingly lynching into town. He must die.


Palmar does waste Day 1's as town. Not often, but he does. This is a pretty clear misrepresentation of his play, and you definetely know his history.

1) What about this is similar to DeathNote? I'm not following. Are you saying that Dirk couldn't have been lynched yesterday? I very strongly disagree with that, and if we (meaning me and marv) were more confident that Dirk was scum than Witty, we almost certainly could have gotten him lynched instead.

2) You're missing the point here. Maybe Palmar has trolled away a day 1 in the past (Death Note is the only example I know of...his other Trolly-Day-1 games, he still gives actual insight [read: LVIII...uh, seems like another too]). That doesn't change the fact that Palmar openly acknowledges that Day 1 is his best day as town, and then 100% wasted it by doing absolutely nothing. I would lynch a Palmar that refuses to play on his strongest day in any game, because town Palmar is far far more likely to put in at least a modicum of effort early on.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 16 2013 01:10 GMT
#638
Seriously, I made that post because *I* put in the effort for the rest of town, then town has a hissy fit that I want people to sheep me? What's wrong with people? I'm out until tomorrow.

~marv
Artanis & marv
NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 16 2013 01:15 GMT
#639
On March 16 2013 10:08 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 09:40 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
##Unvote

I'm too damn paranoid. The simplest explanation for the NK is that marv ordered the kill. I don't know how likely that is, but I need to pursue it to see if it has merit. It was a fucking weird-ass NK for anyone here to make, and today shouldn't be a "sheep marv blindly" day without additional reasons to trust him.

@ Marv
There are two reasons why I'm concerned.
1) You did something very similar in DeathNote Mini, where you wanted to kill Palmar on Day 1, but couldn't because of wonky-kill mechanics and the town mislynching Palmar Day 1.
2) Palmar does have a history of trolling Day 1. DeathNote Mini comes to mind, where he just made like 2 posts the entirety of the day. As such, this explanation in your "martyr" post comes across as dishonest:
Dirk Hardpec - so yes, this guy is mafia. It's clear enough, it's been mentioned why - the trolling, the "I knew he'd flip town but did nothing about doing something else", the lack of anything.

On March 16 2013 03:47 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
Please hold some of your questions. I'll convince yall I'm town tomorrow.


Do *not* be fooled by this. This is typical vettish scumplay from Palmar (probably bugs too). I'll contribute later... just you wait... I'll prove I'm town... and then there'll be a post that these players are very capable of making look good or convincing. What you need to remember is that they have not contributed in the slightest so far. That's actually the important issue. Don't forget, also, that Palmar is well known for having Day 1 as his absolute best day. Like, by far. He catches mafia regularly Day 1, and tails off after. There's a post he made about this in the obsQT for Hero Mini Mafia if you're really interested in checking what I've said. The salient point being that theoretical town-Palmar has wasted his absolute best day of catching mafia, on the offhand promise that he'll do better tomorrow, and willingly lynching into town. He must die.


Palmar does waste Day 1's as town. Not often, but he does. This is a pretty clear misrepresentation of his play, and you definetely know his history.

1) What about this is similar to DeathNote? I'm not following. Are you saying that Dirk couldn't have been lynched yesterday? I very strongly disagree with that, and if we (meaning me and marv) were more confident that Dirk was scum than Witty, we almost certainly could have gotten him lynched instead.

2) You're missing the point here. Maybe Palmar has trolled away a day 1 in the past (Death Note is the only example I know of...his other Trolly-Day-1 games, he still gives actual insight [read: LVIII...uh, seems like another too]). That doesn't change the fact that Palmar openly acknowledges that Day 1 is his best day as town, and then 100% wasted it by doing absolutely nothing. I would lynch a Palmar that refuses to play on his strongest day in any game, because town Palmar is far far more likely to put in at least a modicum of effort early on.


1) Dirk could definitely have been lynched, but that's not my point. The point is that this situation is very similar to that of DeathNote Mini. Palmar was trolling in that game, a bunch of people wanted him dead, and yet you were planning to kill him. The only thing I'm saying is that there's history suggesting that you'd make a similar move here.

2) Can you link me a game in which Palmar trolls as scum? In all the games I've seen scum-Palmar play, he atleast puts a mediocum of effort to looking townie. Not a lot, but he kinda tries. I haven't been in a game with him in which he outwardly trolls as scum with no effort to look townie.
The two man power trip.
NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 16 2013 01:17 GMT
#640
On March 16 2013 10:05 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 09:40 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
##Unvote

I'm too damn paranoid. The simplest explanation for the NK is that marv ordered the kill. I don't know how likely that is, but I need to pursue it to see if it has merit. It was a fucking weird-ass NK for anyone here to make, and today shouldn't be a "sheep marv blindly" day without additional reasons to trust him.

@ Marv
There are two reasons why I'm concerned.
1) You did something very similar in DeathNote Mini, where you wanted to kill Palmar on Day 1, but couldn't because of wonky-kill mechanics and the town mislynching Palmar Day 1.
2) Palmar does have a history of trolling Day 1. DeathNote Mini comes to mind, where he just made like 2 posts the entirety of the day. As such, this explanation in your "martyr" post comes across as dishonest:
Dirk Hardpec - so yes, this guy is mafia. It's clear enough, it's been mentioned why - the trolling, the "I knew he'd flip town but did nothing about doing something else", the lack of anything.

On March 16 2013 03:47 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
Please hold some of your questions. I'll convince yall I'm town tomorrow.


Do *not* be fooled by this. This is typical vettish scumplay from Palmar (probably bugs too). I'll contribute later... just you wait... I'll prove I'm town... and then there'll be a post that these players are very capable of making look good or convincing. What you need to remember is that they have not contributed in the slightest so far. That's actually the important issue. Don't forget, also, that Palmar is well known for having Day 1 as his absolute best day. Like, by far. He catches mafia regularly Day 1, and tails off after. There's a post he made about this in the obsQT for Hero Mini Mafia if you're really interested in checking what I've said. The salient point being that theoretical town-Palmar has wasted his absolute best day of catching mafia, on the offhand promise that he'll do better tomorrow, and willingly lynching into town. He must die.


Palmar does waste Day 1's as town. Not often, but he does. This is a pretty clear misrepresentation of his play, and you definetely know his history.


Since when did I ask this to be a sheep marv day? What the fuck is wrong with all you people? Either you agree with my case or you don't. If you have an alternative explanation for OO's posts, I'm all ears.


I know you didn't suggest that. HOWEVER, I feel that the town is moving in that direction right now, and that's not good. Perhaps at the end of this conversation, I'll re-affirm my town read on you. That would be splendid. But to not explore the option right now and blindly sheep you is a mistake.

GO AND READ THEM YOURSELF. I think OE is the best lynch, if the rest of you don't, do something the fuck about it rather than fucking whining like little bitches that it's just sheep marv day. Jesus christ.

To repeat to you, Hapa, I accused Palmar of being mafia for wasting his Day 1, and bugs as town doesn't usually waste Day 1s. Can you find me a single example in living memory where bugs did nothing as town on Day 1? I sure as hell can't.

~marv


Counterpoint: can you find a scum-game in which WBG does nothing all of Day 1?

The two man power trip.
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