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NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 16 2013 01:24 GMT
#641
On March 16 2013 10:10 FiveTouch wrote:
Seriously, I made that post because *I* put in the effort for the rest of town, then town has a hissy fit that I want people to sheep me? What's wrong with people? I'm out until tomorrow.

~marv


Who is throwing a "hissy-fit"?

"Town" isn't throwing one. I'm the only one doing this right now.

I'm supporting a calm-collected look at you because of a really strange NK. I think that's completely justified given the situation. Instead you threw your own hissy-fit about the "town" going against you (what?) and left the thread. The fuck?
The two man power trip.
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 16 2013 01:41 GMT
#642
On March 16 2013 10:24 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 10:10 FiveTouch wrote:
Seriously, I made that post because *I* put in the effort for the rest of town, then town has a hissy fit that I want people to sheep me? What's wrong with people? I'm out until tomorrow.

~marv


Who is throwing a "hissy-fit"?

"Town" isn't throwing one. I'm the only one doing this right now.

I'm supporting a calm-collected look at you because of a really strange NK. I think that's completely justified given the situation. Instead you threw your own hissy-fit about the "town" going against you (what?) and left the thread. The fuck?


i'm fairly sure that marv is referring to my vote, and my justification for said vote. the good news however, is that now i'm pretty confident about both of you being town after all this. i was very confident about marv being town before, but now i'm almost certain.

what happened to you completely agreeing with the case on VE? you're just throwing all that away because of some trivialities concerning palmars history of useful town play or lack thereof?

also you say that the night kill is strange

WHO IS THE MORE STRANGE SCUM PLAYER, MARV OR VE?

i don't see how you're like

"I think ve is scum, oh gosh that's a weird nightkill, must be marv instead of VE"

imo the choice of nightkills can be figured out... not by stuff like guessing about whether scum is trying to wifom you or not, but just by thinking about which player in the game (if they are scum) is most likely to night kill X player. You recently killed off marv, iamp, then myself in that order probably because we were the people in the game most likely to catch you if you were scum. So in a game where those 3 players get night killed, if hapa is in the game then there's a very good chance that hapa is scum. IMO VE being on the scumteam is the simplest explanation for this game's night kill.

FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 16 2013 01:42 GMT
#643
Its almost 3am in England. He went to bed.
Artanis & marv
NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 16 2013 02:00 GMT
#644
On March 16 2013 10:41 DrParnassus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 10:24 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 16 2013 10:10 FiveTouch wrote:
Seriously, I made that post because *I* put in the effort for the rest of town, then town has a hissy fit that I want people to sheep me? What's wrong with people? I'm out until tomorrow.

~marv


Who is throwing a "hissy-fit"?

"Town" isn't throwing one. I'm the only one doing this right now.

I'm supporting a calm-collected look at you because of a really strange NK. I think that's completely justified given the situation. Instead you threw your own hissy-fit about the "town" going against you (what?) and left the thread. The fuck?


i'm fairly sure that marv is referring to my vote, and my justification for said vote. the good news however, is that now i'm pretty confident about both of you being town after all this. i was very confident about marv being town before, but now i'm almost certain.

what happened to you completely agreeing with the case on VE? you're just throwing all that away because of some trivialities concerning palmars history of useful town play or lack thereof?

also you say that the night kill is strange

WHO IS THE MORE STRANGE SCUM PLAYER, MARV OR VE?

i don't see how you're like

"I think ve is scum, oh gosh that's a weird nightkill, must be marv instead of VE"


Because it's a really fucking weird night kill, and I saw scum-Marv do something incredibly similar in a game I played with him in the past.

imo the choice of nightkills can be figured out... not by stuff like guessing about whether scum is trying to wifom you or not, but just by thinking about which player in the game (if they are scum) is most likely to night kill X player. You recently killed off marv, iamp, then myself in that order probably because we were the people in the game most likely to catch you if you were scum. So in a game where those 3 players get night killed, if hapa is in the game then there's a very good chance that hapa is scum. IMO VE being on the scumteam is the simplest explanation for this game's night kill.



I do agree that VE and Marv seem like the only players that would go after Palmar so aggressively with a night kill.

I will say that on behavior, I think VE/Oats is scummier. HOWEVER, marv is capable of building good cases against townies, and I want to make sure that I'm sheeping town marv and not a mislynch case.
The two man power trip.
NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 16 2013 02:01 GMT
#645
On March 16 2013 10:42 FiveTouch wrote:
Its almost 3am in England. He went to bed.


BOOOOOOOOOOO

What's your take on all of this Kei? Do you 100% agree with Marv on everything, or is there something (hell anything) that you disagree with?
The two man power trip.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 16 2013 02:05 GMT
#646
On March 16 2013 11:01 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 10:42 FiveTouch wrote:
Its almost 3am in England. He went to bed.


BOOOOOOOOOOO

What's your take on all of this Kei? Do you 100% agree with Marv on everything, or is there something (hell anything) that you disagree with?

Just so you know, the post asking you about DeathNote was me. Notice I said (me and marv), because I really don't remember much about Death Note since I wasn't in it and didn't read the early days.

But no. We discussed our reads in length during the night and came to a consensus together. Promato was my town read, Moology was marv's, etc. We aren't separate players, we are FiveTouch. We're playing together as a team because that's honestly the best way to play a hydra.
Artanis & marv
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 16 2013 02:06 GMT
#647
eh, i don't think it's a mislynch case. VE has made his presence known in several other threads in the last couple hours but he's silent in this one. if he were town i think we'd all be getting an earful right now.

i think he was trying to goad me on here:

On March 15 2013 07:25 ObliviousEyes wrote:
YES PLEASE THREATEN RAGEQUIT THAT'S THE FUCKING SPIRIT BITCH


like really? that's the type of thought that scum players think when they see a townie talk about ragequitting.... not the type of thing that a townie would say to another townie. and I have NO reason to think that if VE were town, he would've had anything but a town read on me when he said that.

also this:

On March 13 2013 10:36 ObliviousEyes wrote:
Moo you're going to have to stop referencing on-going games or I'm going to be forced to request a modkill. Fair warning.


once again, really?

VE why so eager to remove players from the game?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 16 2013 02:07 GMT
#648
On March 16 2013 11:05 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 11:01 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 16 2013 10:42 FiveTouch wrote:
Its almost 3am in England. He went to bed.


BOOOOOOOOOOO

What's your take on all of this Kei? Do you 100% agree with Marv on everything, or is there something (hell anything) that you disagree with?

Just so you know, the post asking you about DeathNote was me. Notice I said (me and marv), because I really don't remember much about Death Note since I wasn't in it and didn't read the early days.

But no. We discussed our reads in length during the night and came to a consensus together. Promato was my town read, Moology was marv's, etc. We aren't separate players, we are FiveTouch. We're playing together as a team because that's honestly the best way to play a hydra.


Yeah, but just because Moology was Marv's town read doesn't mean that you share that opinion. What is your individual NON-HYDRA opinion of Moology?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 16 2013 02:07 GMT
#649
So, from what I do remember of Death Note, marv had to send in his kills during the day. So, what you're saying is, he sent in a kill on Palmar, but kept pushing Palmar and got him lynched, therefore wasting his kill?

I don't really see how that is that similar to this game at all.
Artanis & marv
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 16 2013 02:08 GMT
#650
On March 16 2013 11:07 FiveTouch wrote:
So, from what I do remember of Death Note, marv had to send in his kills during the day. So, what you're saying is, he sent in a kill on Palmar, but kept pushing Palmar and got him lynched, therefore wasting his kill?

I don't really see how that is that similar to this game at all.


No he sent in the Palmar NK, and town lynched Palmar without Marv's help at all. I remember he was against the idea of killing Palmar (didn't push it much though).
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 16 2013 02:09 GMT
#651
On March 16 2013 11:07 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 11:05 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 16 2013 11:01 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
On March 16 2013 10:42 FiveTouch wrote:
Its almost 3am in England. He went to bed.


BOOOOOOOOOOO

What's your take on all of this Kei? Do you 100% agree with Marv on everything, or is there something (hell anything) that you disagree with?

Just so you know, the post asking you about DeathNote was me. Notice I said (me and marv), because I really don't remember much about Death Note since I wasn't in it and didn't read the early days.

But no. We discussed our reads in length during the night and came to a consensus together. Promato was my town read, Moology was marv's, etc. We aren't separate players, we are FiveTouch. We're playing together as a team because that's honestly the best way to play a hydra.


Yeah, but just because Moology was Marv's town read doesn't mean that you share that opinion. What is your individual NON-HYDRA opinion of Moology?

That's a fucking dumb question. I had a thought, we discussed it, he convinced me otherwise, so I obviously agree with what he wrote, otherwise he wouldn't have written it. WE'RE WORKING AS A TEAM. Get that through your head.
Artanis & marv
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 16 2013 02:11 GMT
#652
ok ok yeah FT is town.

Back to sheepy-land

##Vote ObliviousEyes
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 16 2013 02:15 GMT
#653
On March 16 2013 11:08 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 11:07 FiveTouch wrote:
So, from what I do remember of Death Note, marv had to send in his kills during the day. So, what you're saying is, he sent in a kill on Palmar, but kept pushing Palmar and got him lynched, therefore wasting his kill?

I don't really see how that is that similar to this game at all.


No he sent in the Palmar NK, and town lynched Palmar without Marv's help at all. I remember he was against the idea of killing Palmar (didn't push it much though).

So...how is this situation similar then?

You're saying: Dont push Palmer -> NK Palmar is the same as Push Palmar -> NK Palmar. I don't get it.

On March 16 2013 11:11 Hapahauli wrote:
ok ok yeah FT is town.

Back to sheepy-land

##Vote ObliviousEyes


wat
Artanis & marv
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 16 2013 02:20 GMT
#654
Marv throwing his hissy-fit was a good sign that he was town. You stepping up to the block when you didn't need to is a sign that you're town.

I was planning on stringing this out a bit to see how Caster/ObliviousEyes reacted, but it doesn't seem worth it,

tl;dr
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 16 2013 02:23 GMT
#655
On March 16 2013 11:11 Hapahauli wrote:
ok ok yeah FT is town.

Back to sheepy-land

##Vote ObliviousEyes


On March 16 2013 11:20 Hapahauli wrote:
Marv throwing his hissy-fit was a good sign that he was town. You stepping up to the block when you didn't need to is a sign that you're town.

I was planning on stringing this out a bit to see how Caster/ObliviousEyes reacted, but it doesn't seem worth it,

tl;dr
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Whooops.

Anyway I speak for myself. Not sure what iamp's view on marv is
The two man power trip.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 16 2013 02:37 GMT
#656
On March 16 2013 11:20 Hapahauli wrote:
You stepping up to the block when you didn't need to is a sign that you're town.
[/spoiler]
I...what? That makes no fucking sense. I've been posting every night after marv goes to bed. You were suspicious of me earlier for it, but now its a town tell?
Artanis & marv
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
March 16 2013 02:40 GMT
#657
On March 16 2013 08:54 Moology wrote:
What the fuck...

##Vote: ObliviousEyes

With Dirk's death that really puts me off on calling Newbie scum. He should know that once Dirk is gone he's next in a lot of peoples minds. It doesn't make sense. OE looks like a good candidate and I'm starting to really want to hear from Golems again.


firstly, who wrote this post? secondly,

how's life aboard the magic school bus?

OH MY GOD MOO. You were scum all along weren't you>>> Please get in touch with me asap.... and it needs to be mocsta, not OE.


(btw we're still lynching VE, I just want to see where this goes)
NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 16 2013 02:44 GMT
#658
On March 16 2013 11:37 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 11:20 Hapahauli wrote:
You stepping up to the block when you didn't need to is a sign that you're town.

I...what? That makes no fucking sense. I've been posting every night after marv goes to bed. You were suspicious of me earlier for it, but now its a town tell?
[/spoiler]

Sure why not? Marv went to bed, and you are apparently taking the whole "we are one person thing" seriously. You didn't have to talk to me. You could have just not addressed me at all, and instead you jumped into the fray. I consider that townie, combined with your general "defiant" demeanor.

As for my suspicious of you earlier, that was based on you not contributing reads and not understanding how you were playing that hydra.

Anywho, you need not understand me - only agreement is required.
The two man power trip.
NewbieXXXI_ObsQT
Profile Joined March 2013
183 Posts
March 16 2013 02:46 GMT
#659
On March 16 2013 11:40 DrParnassus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 08:54 Moology wrote:
What the fuck...

##Vote: ObliviousEyes

With Dirk's death that really puts me off on calling Newbie scum. He should know that once Dirk is gone he's next in a lot of peoples minds. It doesn't make sense. OE looks like a good candidate and I'm starting to really want to hear from Golems again.


firstly, who wrote this post? secondly,

how's life aboard the magic school bus?

OH MY GOD MOO. You were scum all along weren't you>>> Please get in touch with me asap.... and it needs to be mocsta, not OE.


(btw we're still lynching VE, I just want to see where this goes)


Huh? That post seems aaaaight.

Also, he correctly deduced why I'm obv-town before anyone else in the thread. Of all the people that could have made the NK last night, it makes the least sense from us.
The two man power trip.
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
March 16 2013 02:48 GMT
#660
On March 16 2013 11:44 NewbieXXXI_ObsQT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 11:37 FiveTouch wrote:
On March 16 2013 11:20 Hapahauli wrote:
You stepping up to the block when you didn't need to is a sign that you're town.

I...what? That makes no fucking sense. I've been posting every night after marv goes to bed. You were suspicious of me earlier for it, but now its a town tell?


Sure why not? Marv went to bed, and you are apparently taking the whole "we are one person thing" seriously. You didn't have to talk to me. You could have just not addressed me at all, and instead you jumped into the fray. I consider that townie, combined with your general "defiant" demeanor.

As for my suspicious of you earlier, that was based on you not contributing reads and not understanding how you were playing that hydra.

Anywho, you need not understand me - only agreement is required.

Of course I need to understand you. I call out people with bullshit reasons for town reads on me all the time.

But for now I'm satisfied with your answer.
Artanis & marv
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