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Mafia tried to gas my house and kill me in my sleep, leaving my worse half to try to tackle this alone. (Obviously I'm the better half) Luckily it did not work and I shall be able to join you all from this point forward. (My house was fumigated to get rid of a really bad flea infestation, I'm catching up now.) - OE | ||
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Will do a re-read and provide some thoughts once OE and I get a chance to discuss what we think went down. Now onto the Golems. (Moc thoughts) On March 15 2013 06:43 TLCastingGolems wrote: Newbie doubts our absence, Wave! + Show Spoiler [fluff] + I'm not sure what to tell him. Call it coincidence or just plain unlucky, but we both had a bunch of crap going on, and neither of us could get to a computer. If he wants to look back at Mafia LX, he can see that your schedule, Soniv, can be quite restrictive at times. Mine generally isn't too bad, but that doesn't take the business factor of my life out of it. He also says we shouldn't "game absences". I don't really know where he's going with that. I assume that he means we shouldn't try to take advantage of a Witty modkill. I don't quite understand why though, so maybe he can explain it for us a bit better. As for Moology, I would say he's somewhat null leaning red right now. Can you explain for our viewers why, Wave? I would love to! Through reading, there was one post that jumped out at us. **INSTANT REPLAY + Show Spoiler + On March 14 2013 08:35 Moology wrote: Guys Moc is back. I pretty pissed Omni hasnt shown his face at all. Considering Drik Hardpec might be 1 man up with Syllo; I am happy to take a replacement out of Palmar, Bugs, Syllo  ============== I really don't like this post from TLCastingGolems (but will oblige) Current voting trends looks like everyone is feeling each other out. Hardpec definitely comes across as trolling And Prome is giving us early promises of low activity (I am in the same boat as him.. but still making an effort) Snarfs/Adams have flown under the radar for me; if they dont contribute by closer to lynch will prob vote them. - Especially because they dont have multiple ongoing games to hide behind. Otherwise for today I am stuck between the trolling of hardpec and aggressiveness of Marv. Marv normally tries to exert himself as town leader, and is actively trying to walk through with people his thought process. This marv is setting up a dictatorship of no tolerance.. and its a marv i havnt seen before. (Kei done fuck all from what I read) ##Unvote I want to discuss the situation with my other head before issuing a vote with intent to lynch. If Omni is not present in the next 8-10hrs, I will make the decision for him. ==================== The reason I dont like the post above, is because ONCE AGAIN, the castingteam summarise the situation and when it comes to the meat and veg, they pass it off to someone else. Yes, teh flavour is cute, but the strategy is preventing them from being accountable I am actually surprised Promato was supportive of this (justifying them as newbies not expected to contribute).. thats bullshit.You sign up with the big boys, your contributions are just as expected. I dont want to be stuck at LYLO with another "Grush57". (moc) Well, looking through again, he called out a few players who dislike the limelight as a scum player. He called me out, but I'm not really sure why. I haven't played scum in probably over a year, and even at that, I've only been scum maybe two or three times. So I'm not really sure where he was going at that (again, maybe just sowing seeds to discredit), and I'd like some clarity on that. If you read the thread properly, it was clear I wanted to give OE a chance to join the thread before laying down a vote that speaks for both of us. You guys are still not taking any accountability: whether it is discriminating which of you is posting, or providing a firm stance on important thread issues. Instead, when you choose to comment: it is focused on criticisms of your play, rather than contributing to ongoing discussion. I am calling you out openly for shit play; if you want to treat that as discrediting go ahead. As far as I am concerned, you guys are abusing your flavour to hide and not provide any original thought. I am still deciding whether your intentions are scummy; or got lost in the flavour. Regardless the play as either alignment is sub-par.P.S. if you want a random musing headed your way. I noticed you guys came in, and tried to avoid voting for the "mislynch" candidate by suggesting he would be modkilled. So who do you vote for? A blatant sheep vote onto Dirk_Hardpec.. Where is the accountability Do you guys have any original thoughts on who scum is in this game; let alone any original thoughts on the game in general? | ||
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On March 15 2013 09:44 ObliviousEyes wrote: @Moology I don't see any votes from Golems on Dirk Hardpec. -OO Yes correct.. I meant, who do they suggest is a good alternative. (moc) | ||
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On March 13 2013 22:28 Dirk Hardpec wrote: Personal attacks. I don't need to scumhunt, I already know who's town and who's scum. This is wonderful. The only people who know who is town and who is scum ARE the scum. Unintentional slip while trying to be funny? On March 13 2013 22:29 Dirk Hardpec wrote: wanna fight about it? This is needless. How does this help town at all? All it does is aggravate people. More scummy crap to try and distract us. This seems to be a theme in his posting. On March 13 2013 22:38 Dirk Hardpec wrote: is this instant majority? Cause I'll totally hammer that shit Absolutely no care about who is being lynched. On March 13 2013 22:45 Dirk Hardpec wrote: So many choices. Hey. how about a RNG decided lynch? More proof of not caring about who gets lynched. What I can gather from it all is that he doesn't care who gets lynched. Isn't interested in helping town Isn't interested in scum hunting, and ultimately doesn't care about contributing at all. As much as I think Newbie looks suspect at the moment, there were some posts in his filter that I can see coming from a town oriented mind set. With Dirk I can't find that at all. All I can see is an extremely disruptive scum, Not even clever scum, attempting to muck up the thread with his useless posts. I can see no benefit for town to keep him with us for another day/night. Nor can I see a reason at all that we should let him survive and continue to make a mess of things for us. It is the same argument that was used to lynch Witty over Dirk. One of them has the potential to help town, while the other has done absolutely nothing. As evident during the lynch deadline, it is clear Dirk doesn't care about who gets lynched. Not only that, but they managed to not give a shit jumping on board a mislynch WHILE not telling us about any other reads. | ||
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On March 15 2013 06:49 DrParnassus wrote: really, please just drop the act. it's a fucking headache ^ directed at TheCastingGolems I also don't see how Dirk himself would think those posts would look good so I'm not sure why you believe they can look anything but bad regardless of trolling or not. Is that alignment indicative? Can he not troll while at least being slightly helpful? Anyway its 4am and I'm gonna go to sleep. | ||
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On March 15 2013 17:03 DrParnassus wrote: Lets say, Dirk is intentionally trolling, and those posts that you have quoted are meant by Dirk to look fucking bad. Does that still make him scum? (moc) Hold on a second there.. You admit he looks terribad... so why are you sticking up for Dirk instead of letting them speak? I thought your other half said you guys would be quiet for the cycle? Since you asked the question; I didnt think the trolilng by itself made Dirk scum. What OE walked me through was his thoughts on the lynch deadline specifically the Dirk "throw-away" vote. So I agree with OE; the combination of: trolling, lack of genuine reads, and lack of care regarding final vote; does point towards scum motives. I would have loved to extract more information from them to develop the read further; but first, we need to stop replying on their behalf. | ||
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awesome.. we have proven you can be logged in simultaneously LOL (moc) | ||
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On March 15 2013 17:21 Moology wrote: I would have loved to extract more information from them to develop the read further; but first, we need to stop replying on their behalf. EBWOP First, we need *YOU* to stop replying on their behalf. (moc) @ ThrOats | ||
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When I or my other slot puts pressure on someone.. and you step in and cock block.. yes.. im gonna tell you how to play - every... single... time You are stopping us from developing our reads and for what purpose? If you have a strong town read on the guy; then pipe up and notify why. Otherwise, stay out of it and develop your read from the "supposed interaction" In the opinion of OE, and myself: The behaviour of Dirk has gone beyond trolling and is now anti-town. Where is a single fuckn read other than a spam of "Marv is scum" Where is a care given into figuring out this game. Fact: Nomination Mafia, Palmar trolled in a different way to this game. And when he came into the thread, within 2 or 3 posts it was CLEAR he was town. We all know he can be town if he wants to.... and so far.. their play is suspect. Oats: If I didnt have a town read on you, I woulda thought you are pre-empting pressure on a buddy. | ||
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On March 15 2013 17:28 DrParnassus wrote: His trolling INCLUDES the lack of reads, and the lack of care. Dont you think that marv or someone else wouldve picked up on this earlier, if it wasnt obvious that Dirk is playing like out scum and that its just a joke? Or do you think that you stumbled upon scum that no one suspected? (1) Can you honestly tell me Marv is putting 100% effort into this game? & (2) Since when does Marv have to be onto a read for it to be scum. Seriously dude... if you didnt realise, Marv/Kei voted for WittyHydra as well. I cant believe you cock-blocked us to raise a point as insignificant as this... Fuckn seriously man, (moc) | ||
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On March 15 2013 17:52 Mocsta wrote: On phone quit me? | ||
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On March 15 2013 18:07 DrParnassus wrote: So are you gonna make a new case? Or not? Ok do you have a second scum read? Not No (moc) | ||
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Now if anyone tries to call me scummy for that.. i expect you to jump in and defend my honour by saying that their qutoe is bullshit, because everytime they comment on someone acting scummy a CASE IS REQUIRED (moc) | ||
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My concerns are currently with the following teams (1) Golems - They seem to have listened to feedback. I want to see a bit more from them before deciding which side of null they are going. But it is a positive from less experienced players to take criticisms on board. (2) Newbie - They are Jeckyl/Hyde so far. I think they need to be scrutinsed Day2, to get some consistency between the two haeds. Right now the lack of consistency makes them essentially unreadable (i.e. a very confused read) sitting at very slightly leaning town. (3) Promato - Im just scared of lurkers in general after the loss in Mafia LX. These guys have given reasons for the low activity so I expect HIGH QUALITY with small doses. Not getting that so far; they are my sleeper pick for scum. Yams recent list post was... *meh* bunch of wishy-washy reads. Which is fine and all - considering the lack of activity; but why bother to post it? Like i said, if you want to post less fine; but the quality needs to be there. (4) Hardpec - I am in agreement with Omni here. And I dont care Oats that you disagree. If hes not a strong town read, dont step in. And certainly @ night, do not expect a case. Hardpec + Promato are my current picks to follow through with on Day2 (4 1/2) VE - I am throwing him in purely because hes not as active as I have come to expect from recent town VE + Normally he uimms/ahhs a fuck ton before lynch - and we not getting that this game. Seriously Oats; dont fuckn cock-block me again when trying to pressure someone. Unless they are a fuckn probably town read for you; you have no reason to not be interested in the interaction. And so far, you have shown nothing that indicates Hardpec is a probably town read for you. ============== This is probably going to be my last post for the cycle. Going out tonight, and deadline is 7am on a Saturday => i will miss it. (moc)  | ||
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On March 15 2013 18:40 DrParnassus wrote: I responded and then you went silent, Its called. I just got home and now im about to head out Omni, should be available before deadline if you want something specific (moc) | ||
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On March 16 2013 05:19 FiveTouch wrote: There's flipping a coin, and there's screaming do not lynch because you flipped said coin. ~marv Although this is how he described it I agree with DrP about TheCastingGolems for reasons of my own. I liked their pressure on Mocsta and I wasn't involved in the game yet at the time of their disappearance so admittedly it hasn't weighed on me as heavily while looking at them. I see them as a slight town read after the case they made as I just can't see scum motivation behind a large amount of what they have done while I do see a lot of town effort that might be partially hidden by their posting style. No strong read on him but if he continues to play the was he has while I've been here I see no problem with him. - OE | ||
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##Vote: ObliviousEyes With Dirk's death that really puts me off on calling Newbie scum. He should know that once Dirk is gone he's next in a lot of peoples minds. It doesn't make sense. OE looks like a good candidate and I'm starting to really want to hear from Golems again. | ||
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On March 16 2013 11:50 DrParnassus wrote: well, it 100% depends on how our conversation goes. it also very much depends on who wrote that post. OE are you in here now? did you vote for VE? yep. | ||
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