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i know, we (mostly I) freaked kita out :D hope he doesnt remember :D e: meh you're cohost, i just wanted to convince you to join ^_^ | ||
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hilarious! :D | ||
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On March 08 2013 00:30 Kurumi wrote: yo sandy want my slot and I'll go as a replacement? I joined because of you, Kuruminewb. | ||
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1. marv could you be a little bit more specific about Ver, please. 2. VE, I am always a little bit unsure about your motivations. Are you attacking yamato to start discussion or do you really think there is something scummy about his behaviour. If yes, please care to explain. | ||
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On March 10 2013 21:52 marvellosity wrote: it reads like an attempt to deflect attention. i wasn't specific because on its own it's not really important enough to be specific about mh, don't you think he's just roleplaying his personality... well let's stop speculating about his motivations. I guess we'll see what he does later on. in the meantime: On March 10 2013 21:23 Intact wrote: Hey fellas, just reading through now ( EU timezones). I will roleplay my personality to the best of my knowledge though! you know him? | ||
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On March 10 2013 16:26 iamperfection wrote: The following is list of players that i will have a particular interest in throughout the game and depending on the length of my particular stay will depend on heavily in my mission to hunt scum This is Not a list of probable scum but simply of players that interest me and could be of particular value to scum hunting. wherebugsgo marvellosity VisceraEyes BloodyC0bbler Foolishness Ver Acrofales I will be expecting a lot from these players and while for balance reasons there is probably a scum within them i feel that the contributions from this group will help us in our mission. Random Lynch Nonsense While we have to start the discussion somewhere Throwing our votes around all will nilly accomplishes nothing and sets up an atmosphere where are voting doesn't matter. The quicker we get to actual content the better. So Where do we start I will start as right away by saying that yamato is most likely town and the most troubling thing i found was that ve called him a and i quote "scummy fuck" when in fact yamato's agression is more likely a town tell. Ve is highly experienced player and should know this so it troubles me that he has misread the situation. As i go to sleep i will ponder this myself since ve is know to be aggressive no matter what his alignment so he may have been barking at yamato just to bark so i will need more information from him in order to get a more exact read. So discussion going forward Do we agree with me that yamatos start is more of a town tell? Do we agree that ve's misread of the situation is a point showing that he may in fact be scum? I will sleep and ponder these questions further myself and hope to see more content when i awake from everyone. only one? or more? I agree on everything else of your post though... | ||
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On March 10 2013 22:20 marvellosity wrote: Surely the other thing you disagree with should be your absence from the list, bish haha, I am glad he excludes me from that list. He's basically making a list for nightkilltargets. If I am not there, good. | ||
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On March 10 2013 22:26 Mocsta wrote: Yeah, yamato done nothing special and you giving him a town read. Way too eager. i am not explaining my townreads right now. you explain me why yamato is scum if you think so. | ||
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On March 10 2013 22:48 Mocsta wrote: I never told SS his vote was wrong. I was curious he was agreeing with iamp so freely, over a bullshit post; and chose to prod for information. If every post is meant to have meaning, what was the point of a +1 for iamps post anyways? Thats the information I seek. You interject by saying I am telling SS how to play. That couldn't be further from the truth Marv. + Show Spoiler + *As an aside: Regardless of themed gamed or not; I have respect for the vets on this forum. I wouldn't actually do what you were insinuating. I am slightly insulted you would jump to that conclusion immediately.* I was actually aiming at his list and his statement that there is "a" mafia in that list. I don't like these statements very much. When I am scum, I am trying to obscure these numbers. Lynching because of balancing reasons is a pretty successful town-strategy. If you manage to fool the town on the number of vets in the scumteam, you can turn the balancing-reasoning against the town. | ||
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On March 10 2013 23:04 Acrofales wrote: Only scum or Drazerk ever tries to pull this stunt. ##vote Ver read the thread. Risk already quoted "notchezinu" (that was GMarshals smurf, right?) | ||
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On March 10 2013 23:11 Oatsmaster wrote: So do you think Iamp is scum cause of that? Also he basically listed all the vets. Except you. How is that trying to manipulate town? I already said, that i agree with the rest of his post. Therefor he's still 0 rather town to me... | ||
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On March 10 2013 23:13 supersoft wrote: I already said, that i agree with the rest of his post. Therefor he's still 0 rather town to me... okay, i want to be more specific about this. You guys refuse to think and ruin my approach to the game with that behaviour. I quoted Iamps post. I saw the slight possibilitly of antitown manipulation because of the "a". However I liked the reast of the post. I hoped that someone understands what I am doing, agrees with me, or disagrees with me. What i didn't hope was, that you guys get me wrong all the time, because you don't read carefully. On March 10 2013 23:07 supersoft wrote: I was actually aiming at his list and his statement that there is "a" mafia in that list. I don't like these statements very much. When I am scum, I am trying to obscure these numbers. Lynching because of balancing reasons is a pretty successful town-strategy. If you manage to fool the town on the number of vets in the scumteam, you can turn the balancing-reasoning against the town. look at my post. I never said that Iamp necessarily wanted to that and I never said he's scum. I am just entertaining possibilities there. We're super-early day1. I just wanted to note that statement, and I wanted to watch how he follows that stuff up. If he's scum, you ruined my trap, because I already explained everything about it. | ||
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On March 10 2013 23:14 Oatsmaster wrote: So you think Iamp is town cause he thinks yamato is town and VE is scummy cause he misread Yamato? I actually never said, yamato is town, I never said VE is scum or scummy. | ||
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On March 11 2013 03:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Ah man wtf that didn't answer my question at all but I still loved that post X( WHO IS THIS GUY?! you shoulnd't ask yourself that question. The proper question is, are his reads reasonable or not. | ||
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Foolishness is one of them. | ||
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On March 11 2013 16:49 yamato77 wrote: First of all, my role is all inclusive. I didn't choose to reveal his alignment and then shoot him, it happens as a consequence of the person being town. So as soon as I PM'd his name as the alignment check, his fate was sealed and there was nothing I could do about it. Why did I do it, knowing this risk? Firstly, I feel like the people roleplaying heavily, aside from perhaps Prom, deserve a good hard look. None of them had been saying much up to that point and I felt like it was a huge distraction. Kurumi was the worst in this group by a long shot, so losing him even if he was town was not a huge loss. More importantly, it kept town from focusing on him the entire rest of the day with his attention whore mentality and martyring. Basically, I used my alignment check much like a vigi shot. Shoot into the worst of the unreadables and hope you hit red. Unfortunately, I didn't, but it was still objectively a decent move because what it did was get attention away from Kurumi and mainly on to me, where scum have a more difficult time taking a stance due to the more unsure thread sentiment regarding myself at the moment. I can now proceed to completely remove all doubt from the situation and look at who attacked me and why to make inferences about their alignment. The "Pro gf snipe" comment was a joke on my role. Super soft should remember being the target of MZ as a dayvig after Super had just shot a mafia player. MZ made a comment just like that one as he decided to shoot super, who was town. My role, thus, only shoots people that are town. If they were mafia, it works like a detective chevk., where I receive a PM detailing their alignment. I will make it clear, after the alignment check popped up into the thread, I had zero control over the death of Kurumi. The comment was a joke. The shot was predetermined. I sure hope kita and Grey got a good laugh out of it. but you remember that MZ was scumGF back then right? Did you play in WBGs last game with marv, syllo, sandro and me? | ||
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Don't really get, why marv thinks that move was good. | ||
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On March 11 2013 17:51 yamato77 wrote: It was not unreasonable. Perhaps, as Kurumi suggested, I could have aimed it at someone like Ver, but the risk of losing a potential town asset over the guy fucking up the thread while I was at work seemed a little too high. is your ability a one time thing or can you do it more often? | ||
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On March 12 2013 01:42 marvellosity wrote: yup, antagonise, that'll win people over to your lynch. grow up. i'm watching what happens really closely. But I haven't figured it out yet. I am filtering and rereading and will propose a solution in time. | ||
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On March 12 2013 03:09 yamato77 wrote: Prom, kill super with me. Marv, you too. You know super as town is not a pile of shit. He's obviously here, reading the thread, he's just fucking off. I say that's mafia super right there. you shoot kurumi when only 18 hours have passed by in the game and now you want to lynch me d1. Great decisionmaking. I don't understand your thoughprocess... What are you doing in reallife? I am curious... | ||
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On March 12 2013 03:15 slOosh wrote: lol dude stop sidestepping yamato shot modconfirmed town Be clear with it: do you think he is town? Cause right now all you are doing is theorizing on how viable of a mafia move it is, not how scummy yamato actually is. and you should read the thread. | ||
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On March 12 2013 03:53 slOosh wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=281403¤tpage=75#1492 how is this situation any different? 1. his role works like this: + Show Spoiler + On March 11 2013 16:49 yamato77 wrote: First of all, my role is all inclusive. I didn't choose to reveal his alignment and then shoot him, it happens as a consequence of the person being town. So as soon as I PM'd his name as the alignment check, his fate was sealed and there was nothing I could do about it. Why did I do it, knowing this risk? Firstly, I feel like the people roleplaying heavily, aside from perhaps Prom, deserve a good hard look. None of them had been saying much up to that point and I felt like it was a huge distraction. Kurumi was the worst in this group by a long shot, so losing him even if he was town was not a huge loss. More importantly, it kept town from focusing on him the entire rest of the day with his attention whore mentality and martyring. Basically, I used my alignment check much like a vigi shot. Shoot into the worst of the unreadables and hope you hit red. Unfortunately, I didn't, but it was still objectively a decent move because what it did was get attention away from Kurumi and mainly on to me, where scum have a more difficult time taking a stance due to the more unsure thread sentiment regarding myself at the moment. I can now proceed to completely remove all doubt from the situation and look at who attacked me and why to make inferences about their alignment. The "Pro gf snipe" comment was a joke on my role. Super soft should remember being the target of MZ as a dayvig after Super had just shot a mafia player. MZ made a comment just like that one as he decided to shoot super, who was town. My role, thus, only shoots people that are town. If they were mafia, it works like a detective chevk., where I receive a PM detailing their alignment. I will make it clear, after the alignment check popped up into the thread, I had zero control over the death of Kurumi. The comment was a joke. The shot was predetermined. I sure hope kita and Grey got a good laugh out of it. that means he didnt shoot the modconfirmed townie. The shot followed the check automatically. 2. I am quite suspicious of him and he won't answer the question about the WBG game + Show Spoiler + On March 11 2013 17:21 supersoft wrote: but you remember that MZ was scumGF back then right? Did you play in WBGs last game with marv, syllo, sandro and me? On March 11 2013 17:39 supersoft wrote: that shot and check was completely unreasonable... This hasty usage of blue powers looks suspicious to me. Don't really get, why marv thinks that move was good. On March 11 2013 17:55 supersoft wrote: is your ability a one time thing or can you do it more often? wbg described the davig usage for scum on day1 quite precisely. The difference is, that wbgs dayvigs hat to ##shoot in the thread. But in general scumdayvigs shoot crazy guys who are under heavy suspicion. Kurumi was the perfect scumdayvig-target... IF you have to claim. If you don't have to claim, I think as scum you shouldnt claim... The question is: Is yamato courageous enough to do that as scum OR is he stupid enough to do that as town. | ||
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On March 12 2013 04:13 HiroPro wrote: Loil chedck that link carefulyy the claimers is a town plaeyer. Whys bring that up sloosh? are you drunk? | ||
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On March 12 2013 04:16 cDgCorazon wrote: Why do you assume he had no choice in the matter of killing Kurumi? If it didn't matter why was there a period in between Kurumi's reveal to town and his death? read his post. If you trust his claim, that's how it works. | ||
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A) Yamato is green 1. Role works like that: He is Meapak_Ziph and he can check players: If they're red, the thread knows. If they're green they die delayed 2. his decisionmaking is like this: reasonable: Kurumi is talking complete bullshit and playing against his wincondition. (What he did made no sense. Even a mole who switches sides doesnt want himself getting killed. It lowers his personal chances of winning.) He blocked the thread with his shit for roughly 1 hour? stupid: we had 30 hours of the day left Why check Kurumi today. He claimed to be green and turn red tomorrow. Why not check him tomorrow? B) Yamato is scum 1. His role: Meapak_ziph, red dayvig like in the game yamato quoted himself (bang bang mafia) the check is kind of strange and unnecessary for scum... 2. His motivation see slooshs Ace-quote. decent scummove. | ||
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On March 12 2013 04:34 marvellosity wrote: this is what I can't get over, whether there are possibilities for discovering the personality of a player or not. if he's playing like mafia in a couple of days time then he can be lynched still. i just don't understand the risk. say there are roles that can find out personalities or even role PMs. yamato has made himself a prime cop check candidate. If he's town, are mafia just gonna frame him every night? well, good. yes thats true. On March 12 2013 04:35 marvellosity wrote: as you know supersoft, yamato was lynched in our last game as mafia for not doing anything and disappearing. this doesn't feel like that at all. and thats also true. but the delay is also strange. and the timing is - in my opinion - only wrong for a townie. So wrong I want to cry. | ||
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On March 12 2013 04:45 Vivax wrote: Assume yamato is in a team with really good guys that are coaching him how to play, cause it's not an unlikely option in a game with such players. Saying someone is a cop check candidate as a reason to not lynch him is really weird. Didn't I read something about MZ being GF in some game? yes in that bang bang he was GF and he dayvigged me directly after I dayvigged one of his fellows :-D | ||
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You modconfirm and kill the targets delayed. This modconfirming looks kind of townish, because it's just unnecessary in the first place as scum. But you can use that unnecessary power to your advantage if you claim. However yamato didn't play the "why would scum have that ability"-card enough yet... | ||
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On March 12 2013 05:00 marvellosity wrote: go read his most recent towngames then. alternative target? Bugs? | ||
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On March 12 2013 05:10 wherebugsgo wrote: ##shoot prplhz if this shot was real and prplhz is town, you have to die. You have to. Oh my god. | ||
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On March 12 2013 05:38 austinmcc wrote: if ANYTHING other than a real shot on a scum prplhz, he's got to die. If the shot is fake, then bugs is just wasting the thread's time. ... lol are you scum? | ||
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I continue rereading. WBG shouldn't be an option today. That's my final thought about wbg today. Keep him alive. | ||
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I am rereading the thread and I often see people exaggerating and writing really onesided cases. If you don't balance pros and cons, I cannot follow your chain of thought and therefor you don't convince me. | ||
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On March 12 2013 08:18 marvellosity wrote: at the moment saying "let bugs live" doesn't convince me either, and given bugs is set to be lynched, you need to try to. I could try and probably succeed to get the rest of town on to Crossfire instead, but you need to give me a compelling reason to. hehe, i wasn't talking about your case, however it's also pretty onesided. regarding bugs. 1. It's quite simple. I believe he rolled chezinu. + Show Spoiler + (Noone counterclaimed that yet. I'd love to have Ver here right now. He's the only one who could be chezinu.) As Chezinu that play makes sense. 2. He's a good player, especially if he's scum, we probably won't succeed lynching him. ______ I only find it scummy, that he doesnt care about my scummy-absence the last 20 hours :-/ all in all, he should definetely live another day. | ||
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On March 12 2013 08:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Something occurs to me as to why yamato would claim the shot as scum. The mod gave his name in the announcement. If there's a name-DT in town, if he didn't claim the shot he'd be boned. On March 12 2013 04:31 supersoft wrote: addtion to B) 2. the claim was probably unnecessary, a more likely option would have been to not claim. but who knows what possibilities there are to detect the personalitly of a player. :-) | ||
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On March 12 2013 08:30 marvellosity wrote: naw, he's hiding behind chezinu. i can't find one reason to let him live and nothing you said there was a reason. Chezinu is a troll but also perceptive as town. he doesn't tunnel a townie and then fuck off. and then self-vote. not in the games i've seen chezinu play. WBG only adopted chezinus posting style. Not the way he plays the game. tunnel and fuck off is wbgish. And not a scumtell... It's also no bad townplay. | ||
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On March 12 2013 08:35 marvellosity wrote: you've had all day to read. and if the deadline is earlier you still wouldn't have pushed us towards any lynch. *shrug* that's true, but i was lazy and i miscalculated the time i'd need to find a proper target. 1 hour wasn't enough i guess... | ||
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kill Oatsmaster! :-o | ||
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On March 12 2013 10:13 Oatsmaster wrote: Why are we not lynching WBG. He martyred himself. Why not vig crossfire? I think he is more of a coinflip than WBG tbh. Also VIvax likely scum. Also I gotta go and will be out for the whole day. :-o what? | ||
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oh man i am so tired :D This deadline... | ||
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On March 12 2013 11:59 Promethelax wrote: i'd have switched votes to fool but I knew I had not the votes pooled his play has been scum he is not this dumb i think we just might get him schooled. stop this shit right now. don't be an idiot and vote Foolish based on this shit?! get your vote on crossfire... | ||
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I should have switched to Yamato... he had a better chance to flip red than WBG... Why did I even wake up in the middle of the night? Only to see the scumteam making a voteswitch in front of my eyes? | ||
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now we have to deal with him and the scumteam wont do us the favor to shoot him... Vivax point is actually not that bad... "end the kurumi problem" while kurumi already said he has a "scumrole".... it was uncertain if a redcheck would have helped us much... solving = killing. GF snipe? not really since he wouldnt have died if he really were gf... ahhh whatever... i believe yam. is just playing against our wincondition... but thats okay. i dont expect much more... | ||
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On March 13 2013 01:32 supersoft wrote: lets agree it was a terrible move and we move on. we overdiscussed this incident and we have better targets for tomorrow | ||
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On March 13 2013 05:26 Vivax wrote: Tomorrow it might be clear however depending on how this night goes. Supersoft can I add that you remind me of your LVIII self? You are preparing your famous lists yes? sure, but this game i wont give them to you. | ||
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On March 13 2013 08:02 iamperfection wrote: Speculation on night actions because i do that sort of stuff Medics on marv and ve in my opinion as well as me Those 3 are likely to die Do we play the same game? | ||
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On March 13 2013 08:11 iamperfection wrote: see now you make be break the 4th role the guy im impersonating (somewhat badly) says theres nothing wrong with speculating and directing night actions you jib-jubs Yes. We direct nightactions. But not like that. decent medics stick with: marv, me, BC That's the order if you multiply scumhunting-skills and estabished-townieness. Marv established himself well. I am lurking since the beginning of the game. But I did some things I probably wouldn't do as scum. BC hasn't done much telling, but he's dangerous for scum. Depending on the scumteam, BC and I may switch positions on the proritylist. All the other good scumhunters are on the edge of getting lynched. Therefor no good targets. The three players named above, should be the favourite targets. However they're also the favourite targets for medics now. Regardlessly the scumteam will try to shoot one or two of us. That's where decent medics come into play. Don't think my post here will keep them from shooting us. | ||
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On March 13 2013 08:33 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm better scumhunter than SS. Just sayin. it's hard to compare. But I know that you're not a leader. You're a helper. | ||
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mulitple reasons: - deadlinetiming - rhyming trolling people - day1 in a large game - watched the complete 2 seasons of game of thrones Sunday/Monday and had a whole lof university today. ^_^ | ||
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and VE is in no danger. | ||
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I get to play 48 hours as CONFIRMED Town. SCUMMERS!!! I WILL BE A PAIN IN YOUR ASS! -----> rereading :-( (who predicted the nightkills?) | ||
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We are not killing Foolish or Ver today btw. Both barely posted. They are day3 material. Both need to shape up heavily. I dislike Marvs quick vote btw. | ||
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Now stop this rhyming it's really getting on my nerves. | ||
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On March 13 2013 18:38 Foolishness wrote: ##NUKE: Yamato77 LET THE FUN BEGIN + Show Spoiler + Though I actually have no idea who to vote for after that nice, I just wanted to ask for a davigshot on someone. I need more action and Information. I need red-blood to reinforce my reads! | ||
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On March 13 2013 18:47 Vivax wrote: Hmm. It's strange to ask for dayvigshots who was your target? Why does it matter right now? I am confirmed town. Don't ask me these questions :D You'll get my honest reads in time. :-) | ||
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On March 13 2013 18:45 supersoft wrote: nice, I just wanted to ask for a davigshot on someone. I need more action and Information. I need red-blood to reinforce my reads! wait a second. Marv claims to have a check that you and Ver are opposite aligned... Why didn't you shoot Ver? Seriously that doesn't make much sense... | ||
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On March 13 2013 19:08 supersoft wrote: wait a second. Marv claims to have a check that you and Ver are opposite aligned... Why didn't you shoot Ver? Seriously that doesn't make much sense... On March 13 2013 12:43 marvellosity wrote: well, if we had medics they failed pretty hard :p for what it's worth, I received opposite alignments back for Foolish and Ver. | ||
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These players: X Scummers among them 1. Vivax 23. Promethelax 19. iamperfection 5. HiroPro 10. austinmcc 13. Oatsmaster 14. Stutters695 15. strongandbig 18. Mocsta 21. Acrofales 22. cDgCorazon 9. Intact replaced by Dandel Ion 2. Crossfire99 ___________________________________________ Other players: Y Scummers among them 7. marvellosity 4. risk.nuke 6. prplhz 16. slOosh 20. Ver - opposite aligned - 17. Foolishness - shot - 24. yamato77 X + Y = 5 X = ? Y = ? tell me bros | ||
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This is nowhere near final and isn't even my most current view on the lists. | ||
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On March 13 2013 19:43 Vivax wrote: Come on SS, why balance discussion anything can have been rolled we don't know if hosts RNG or not, we should probably discuss something more important than that. I've lately become tired of chicken nuggets so I'm actually eating a McCurrywurst for breakfast. Man it's awesome, there's a reason Mario Barth comments on it with : "Horny"  . Did you try it out already or are you the BurgerKing type  ?if you're not willing to discuss balancing, go ahead and discuss the town-scum-order :-) | ||
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On March 13 2013 19:45 supersoft wrote: if you're not willing to discuss balancing, go ahead and discuss the town-scum-order :-) and I am definetely the burgerking-type However the McDonalds french fries are much better that the BurgerKings | ||
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On March 13 2013 19:47 Mocsta wrote: I dont see how that makes him town? Is it normal for town to have two day-vigs? (this is assuming foolish #nuke is real) (nuke is where the kill is end of cycle right?) is it? damn you're right... that's really unfortunate for me :-/ put my lists in your favourite order please | ||
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On March 13 2013 19:48 Foolishness wrote: 1) I don't believe anything Marv says cause I'm 95% sure he's mafia. 1a) ^^if I'm wrong then Ver will die sooner or later anyways. 2) yamato77 safer and for sure kill while Ver isn't so. I kind of agree... If marv is scum, that move should kill you and Ver and him at the end, that's a 2 to 1 trade and it's killing discussion for 3 days, it's 2 guaranteed mislynches. Kind of makes sense from a scum-perspective. Marv is definetely capable of doing that. 60/40 he's still town though - from my point of view. | ||
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On March 13 2013 19:51 supersoft wrote: I kind of agree... If marv is scum, that move should kill you and Ver and him at the end, that's a 2 to 1 trade and it's killing discussion for 3 days, it's 2 guaranteed mislynches. Kind of makes sense from a scum-perspective. Marv is definetely capable of doing that. 60/40 he's still town though - from my point of view. Or Ver is scum and Marv is "confirmed" town then. Ver isn't playing and i think noone will be able to save him from a lynch... Also does make sense as scummarv... - i am just entertaining possibilities there - | ||
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On March 13 2013 19:55 Oatsmaster wrote: If you are 95% sure that marv is mafia, WHY DID YOU KILL YAMATO? Also supersoft, Im confused at what are 2 lists mean and the difference between them... Why are you confused. I am confirmed town. DON'T QUESTION MY MOTIVATION! I AM TOWN! HELLO! Why do you people ask me questions and refuse to help me. We have the unique opportunity to have ME as a confirmed townie and a completely honest and openly playing Judge for todays lynch. | ||
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On March 13 2013 22:19 marvellosity wrote: I don't know yamato's alignment. All I know is these things 1) I think yamato is town 2) I am town 3) Foolishness is playing like a scrubby mafia ass. Sorry dude, can't take that serious. It's just dumb to kill Foolish before the shot goes through. We're in no rush with that. We can easily wait for the additional information. | ||
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Seriously, lynch Foolish day3 if it pleases you. Not today. The fact that you even consider lynching the guy, who just nuked the guy who gives town the most information if he dies, drives me crazy. It's just dumb to kill Foolish before the shot goes through. We're in no rush with that. We can easily wait for the additional information. i will take that into my signature. | ||
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man that was disturbing... Bot were town | ||
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On March 13 2013 22:41 marvellosity wrote: SUPERSOFT alternative lynch targets from your POV please. I haven't finished me rereading yet. I am no magician. You don't need to pressure me. I am town. I'll do everything to win this game. Dont worry! | ||
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On March 13 2013 22:47 Acrofales wrote: RebirthOfLegend is already out of the game, but wasn't it Kurumi who launched the dud? Or was it launched at Kurumi? So if the nuke is real, then Yamato dies at the end of the cycle. I think we should leave Foolishness for tomorrow: I see no reason for scum to nuke a scumbuddy right now. If Yamato flips red, then Foolishness is probably town. Regardless of how unlikely I think that is, it's possible. In any other situation, we can lynch Foolishness tomorrow. Unless you are afraid of him having multiple nukes, I see no harm in delaying. no Kurumi launched the real nuke. Rol launched the dud. On March 13 2013 22:47 Dandel Ion wrote: He still gives that information even when we lynch him, so I dunno what your problem is. It's dumb to not lynch scum because of "information", and it's even worse when lynching said scum doesn't affect the information anyways. I know you're syllo and I should buddy you to keep in character, but I'm already doing that to marv and it's taking its toll on my sanity. What? Read Acrofales post I quoted above, if you don't get what i say :-/ | ||
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On March 13 2013 22:54 marvellosity wrote: This. A million times this. Vivax has asked at least 20 questions this game which have been answered already if he would read the thread. YES!!! This guys drives me crazy with his already answered questions! Man Vivax, you had such a beautiful start!!! | ||
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Ver and Foolish are not todays lynchtargets! Information about Foolish = information about Ver | ||
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On March 13 2013 23:01 iamperfection wrote: why cant we lynch ver he seems like a fine candidate to me. He is making great use of that supposed time he now has.... stop trolling me! I cannot reread the thread in peace, if people keep suggesting lynching Ver or Foolish! | ||
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On March 13 2013 23:03 marvellosity wrote: Uh I missed the latest one... So did Foolishness, i guess... | ||
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On March 13 2013 23:05 Vivax wrote: Didn't see marv got opposite checks back when I said I would want to lynch them. We should probably follow supersoft's advice though and wait how Foolish's action resolves while deciding over other candidates. Prplhz is also an awesome candidate for lynch. you can't simply softclaim DT like a hundred times and not reveal your results. | ||
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if we don't believe you, the scumteam doesnt believe you either. -- Vivax, information please! -- | ||
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(And if Retarded iPad of my mother Jeeps autocorrecting my englisch into German) :----P | ||
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On March 13 2013 23:56 Crossfire99 wrote: Sorry about that, but I don't normally read signatures lol. Also, how isn't he scum in your eyes? O_O I EVEN PUT IT IN MY SIGNATURE, BECAUSE I EXPLAINED IT 10000000 TIMES. most antitown move ever seen. Worst usage of blue roles ever seen in this game... Why don't you use your brain before you shoot someone. I only shot people twice in mafia games. Both times I hit scum. And why? Because I waited for the perfect moment, I triplechecked every possibilitie and so on. You people act like: Uh, I got a gun. Kekeke, I'll shoot the first dude who crosses my way. Yamato shot Kurumi - What? He deserved Foolishs nuke. He deserved it. Now you shoot Foolishness even before his nuke lands? WHAT? W T F ? WWWWWWWWW TTTTTTTTTTTT FFFFFFFFFFF if you're not scum. that was just terrible. Why don't you nuke someone else? why don't you wait for tomorrow and if yamato is green you nuke foolish, if he's red you nuke Ver. Why don't you USE your brain. If I - I the confirmed townie - say NOT TODAY I mean not today. | ||
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Hey why don't we shoot everyone right now? let's lynch Ver, and SHIT on every information we'll gain due the future flips? ##vote: Ver hey! that's a good idea! | ||
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On March 14 2013 00:07 Vivax wrote: EBWOP: Not the answer I'd have expected if you were town. Cause you would be raging. yes sherlock. He'd be raging. Your shot was obviously fucking fake. | ||
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On March 14 2013 00:07 marvellosity wrote: good job i'm in control while you're losing it, right super? <3 deep breaths and carry on! In control? You see what you did with your shit? That crossfire (F********* NOOOOOB) nuked foolish on your command. | ||
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good job. You gave to nukes to the right people. Really well played. Seriously. Okay my new circle of trust: Prom, sloosh, Foolishness, vivax, cDgCorazon. You don't vote each other. | ||
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OH YES! I AM FUCKING REREADING THE SHIT OUT OF THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW. | ||
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On March 14 2013 07:18 Promethelax wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Foolishness On March 14 2013 04:44 austinmcc wrote: ##Vote: Foolishness On March 14 2013 02:47 strongandbig wrote: ##vote: foolishness On March 14 2013 03:10 Dandel Ion wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Foolishness On March 14 2013 04:21 Oatsmaster wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Foolishness On March 14 2013 01:54 marvellosity wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Foolishness On March 13 2013 13:17 HiroPro wrote: ##Vote Foolishness I command you to unvote. ##UNVOTE | ||
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On March 14 2013 09:11 slOosh wrote: Because scum get off 2~3 more shots off today, confirmed town supersoft is no longer here to help us and clearly there's not that much in the rest of town that inspires confidence. That's why we talk about them today. I'm not shutting down discussion, I'm shutting down irrelevant talk. It's like if someone started talking about lynching lurkers. people on my trustlist earned their spots. Do not doubt them. | ||
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On March 14 2013 09:45 Promethelax wrote: oops, sorry super, meant to do that before I went away though I disagree with his read his post did, my thoughts, sway ##UnvoteI'll look elsewhere for lynches why do you say thats Cora is no grinch? I was his scum coach so I might have something to say Now of the list you posted in red ver is the only one I might want dead but why do that when he is at worst null he has done nothing, been dull I don't really see scum making that bed. my thoughts are in turmoil my cogs need some oil please come help me decide in you I confide and so now, back to my toil just reread wbgs lynch, foolishs post, marvs claim and vote and foolishs opinion on vivax. | ||
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On March 14 2013 12:12 austinmcc wrote: Digesting. One small initial thought. I think Foolishness's post reads well. I also think that he's not being entirely truthful. The read on marv feels legitimate, but him being a batman-posting/unlynchable/1-shot vigi? That's bs. I don't trust that at all. Makes me not trust the post as a whole, because if he's actually coming clean here and making a big towncase, he's not doing a good job of it when he's also hiding/altering information. Can I prove that he's lying? Not really. Does it seem that it is? Yeah. It feels like he's crafting a role to explain all of his behavior, and that doesn't pass the smell test with me. you don't deserve to win. Really. Okay people. Keep sheeping Marv. Marv may be town. But Foolishness definetely is town. Yamato is the first lynch. Crossfire the second. If marv keeps protecting them and if he doesnt see that foolish is town, you must kill him, too. | ||
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Really this town is just too FUCKING dumb WHY DONT YOU FUCKING FOLLOW MY COMMANDS??? ITS 17 HOURS TO THE LYNCH! I NEED YOU RETARDS TO FOLLOW ME TO PRESSURE RESULTS! ARGH WHY IS NOONE GETTING IT makes me so angry "Duh i vote foolish, 17 hours before the lynch, along with everyone else - discussion not needed" SO STUPID! SHEEEPS! NOONE of you NOT A SINGLE one of you thought about this game as much as foolishness obviously did before he wrote his big post. That post does make some sense and there are true statements in it. ARGH 1+h80üqwehg89 q34hg89ß13z4g89ühwre78pfhü3q908rhtg183ü4h13g why don't you use this unique opportunity to play with one confirmed townie follow my lead and pressure the shit out of the players I want you to pressure. no really this stupidity is too much to handle... I'd never play like this in this situation. What are you even doing? Voting Foolishness right now? WHAT? Did you even read his filter? Did you? AHHH | ||
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On March 14 2013 18:32 risk.nuke wrote: Foolishness claiming permanently unlynchable and is trying to pull of a last ditch effort to kill yamato. You're not using your heads if you take his words for that. ##vote: Foolishness And this is the whole explanation for your vote? That's it? You refer to like 1% of the content he posted, his role, where he trolled or didn't troll and that sells you? What about yamato? Is he town in your eyes? Does that day1 shot make sense to you? What about Crossfire - is he town? Do you think Vivax is scum? | ||
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On March 14 2013 19:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Your name starts with S, but you arent syllo. Thats probably why. Also you dont really seem to be trying to convince people to vote for yamato? Like you are just ragequitting. Chill the fuck out and know that yamato isnt getting lynched today. Try and push for someone else if you dont want foolishness to die. oh come on. Read my last games. You're a Joke. | ||
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there is good stuff in it. after that i want you to revaluate your reads. | ||
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yamato, acro, oats are town. this is my final stance on them. i am curious though, why vivax wents for acro after i called his filter interesting; because i didnt call it interesting because of scummieness. acro actually has some useful contributions, that convinced me that yamato must be town. acro himself is town, because he was flying successfully under every radar with useless play and shaped up immensly without any pressure. my read on oats bases on page 0-130. his latest flipflopping however only shows his interest in lynching properly. therefor it's still accurate! | ||
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On March 15 2013 02:54 yamato77 wrote: If Foolishness is actually unlynchable then I am even more certain he is mafia. It also makes Marv look 100000000000000000x worse. bullshit. I need to find a way to stay alive, to prevent you from making assumptions like that. | ||
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On March 15 2013 03:09 supersoft wrote: I digged through Marvs filter this morning and I am pretty confident he's town. I doubt anyone else reread marvs 25 pages of spam. Except maybe Foolishness. His mistake day1 was, that he didn't save WBG. But he's not the only one to blame for that. WBG was obv not scum. I also digged through Vivax stuff and I came to the conclusion, that he plays different to his latest scumgame (where i didnt catch him), but also different to his latest towngame. Vivax is a player, that will always be unreadable for me. His decisionmaking is different from everyone else in this forum. He's as special as chezinu and I will probably never be able to read him. It was incredibly hard to force myself to read Marvs and Vivax filter. But I do it, because: On March 15 2013 03:21 supersoft wrote: You have to analyze, not to guess. + Show Spoiler + I'll read more and I'll update you. guys. Right now, I am working on the people that weren't in the spotlight yet. It's possible, that Foolishness and marv both are town and our scumteam hides somewhere between Ver and prplhz. THAT spoiler here was a guess and no analysis btw. | ||
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On March 15 2013 07:53 marvellosity wrote: If he's telling the truth, 2 or 3 of us who are around at deadline can switch to Corazon. foolishness is overwhelmingly in the lead so there is no danger in doing this. let me decide the lynch then please :-] | ||
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On March 11 2013 23:34 cDgCorazon wrote: BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Btw I didn't delurk, I woke up and the discussion was on me. Nothing much I could do about that timing... Fullclaim. Now. | ||
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On March 15 2013 08:14 Vivax wrote: I just noticed this post. It's not what I was aiming at when looking through prplhz though but I find it kinda suspicious. what's suspicious about it? it's true... scum and town could post it. | ||
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10. austinmcc 21. Acrofales compare stutters current game to former games. He plays scared; Unnecessary roleclaim; i don't get a scumfeeling tbh. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Xt4izeC.jpg) austinmcc Acrofales yamato77 Dandel Ion marvellosity Ver strongandbig Oatsmaster Promethelax Vivax Mocsta iamperfection Stutters695 HiroPro (if foolish is town. Kill him) slOosh Crossfire99 risk.nuke prplhz Foolishness cDgCorazon + Show Spoiler + boldgreen = damn sure town green = pretty sure town italic green = should be town italic red = could be scum red = should be scum boldred = gotta be scum this list should be damn accurate. Sadly it's only day2 and I am no magician. If my boldreds keep falling, this should be the way to go. I had no time to write up reasons for every position, because I analyzed the game during the last 30 hours, when I had time in between university lectures and other stuff I had to do... and I only wrote most of my notes only on paper. If you need something or have questions... I'll be around for a little bit...  | ||
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Same applys for risk. His play is pretty similar to last game where he was scum. You're playing really similar though. Both of you have some moments, where you accuse the right people etc. But it looks artificial and in the end bot of you keep flying under the radar. On March 14 2013 18:32 risk.nuke wrote: Foolishness claiming permanently unlynchable and is trying to pull of a last ditch effort to kill yamato. You're not using your heads if you take his words for that. ##vote: Foolishness if you know someone is scum. its difficult to find the correct reasons. If you want to see how to make it right, I think it was austin who compared foolishs yamato-case to his BillMurray-case. I don't know i am so tired. His wasted vote on sloosh. I mean risk should participate in this game... He just doesnt care at all. Sloosh is probably scum I should switch him with crossfire... probably... I mean it's just a cheap old scumtrick, to vote a teammate when he's nowhere near in danger of getting lynched right now... | ||
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On March 15 2013 10:15 austinmcc wrote: Thanks for the thoughts supersoft. Off the top of my head, questions that I have right away: (1) Do you have any magical extra knowledge that should be in thread? Random role crap that you think would help town more than scum if it were out in the open? (2) Are you a balance person at all? Your scum list feels vet/experienced heavy. Like corazon and crossfire are the only newer players on there, and crossfire has been around as long as I have, so he's not new new new. You've got 4 of the people that I've been lumping together for balance purposes as could/should be scum, and I'm kind of uncomfortable with that number. Fulllist would be like that: supersoft BloodyC0bbler V Kurumi v VisceraEyes V austinmcc Acrofales yamato77 Dandel Ion marvellosity V Ver V strongandbig Oatsmaster Promethelax Vivax Mocsta iamperfection Stutters695 HiroPro (if foolish is town. Kill him) slOosh v Crossfire99 risk.nuke v prplhz v Foolishness V cDgCorazon looks really balanced and fair. + Show Spoiler + V/v is Vet. No offense to anyone intendet. Vet doesn't necessarily mean good in every game, but experienced. | ||
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On March 15 2013 10:31 marvellosity wrote: So supersoft, you come around to the two reads I had at the start of the day. Thought you might. There are other reads I disagree with but that can wait. meh, they were pretty good... But if that one nuke would have been real, I'd still defended foolish against todays lynch. | ||
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On March 15 2013 10:21 cDgCorazon wrote: Alright, as my last will, here is 4/5ths of the scum team. They all have a hard-on for both defending each other, attacking me, not scum hunting, and shitting up the thread: Yamato Acro Marv Mocsta Not very hard to tell with my flip Peace out and GG gents. You scumslipped so badly with that post, you even sold foolish with that post. On March 15 2013 10:40 cDgCorazon wrote: Maybe because I want to die and I'm apt to believe that Foolishness is not joking around about his role. and because you know foolishness role. please.... On March 15 2013 10:36 marvellosity wrote: supersoft - before you go. You think the slOosh/crossfire/Foolish nuke thing was all a setup? That's what I get from your reads? could be, doesn't really matter. Crossfire could very well be just a victim of the two of them. Same applys for vivax. I actually think if Sloosh is scum, crossfire should be town. | ||
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On March 14 2013 05:36 cDgCorazon wrote: Why Acro? This certainly is not out of the blue for me. ah okay, phew. I thought you were scum, and you pulled that guy out of the blue On March 14 2013 05:36 cDgCorazon wrote: I've mentioned Acro a couple of times this game, and his play seems really scummy to me... that's right, you accused him before... with no reason! fun post, I wanted to share with you before I pass out :-D | ||
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On March 15 2013 10:53 Promethelax wrote: With your reads I agree But i think that you should see Moc is greener than you paint him His scum chances are slim Besides that your reads please me. I think I'll stop the clock for a night On whichever of Cora/fool doesn't take flight It would be a shame For there powers to be in this game What do you think, is this bright? What? | ||
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should have known, foolish was town, when the wagon built so easily. i knew something was wrong with hiro/ver... i should have based my reads on that :-( | ||
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On March 20 2013 09:40 Promethelax wrote: Its pretty depressing that you had 4/5 of the scum team as townier than me. I thought I was being pretty pro-town. How do I make it so you read me correctly? these reads based on the assumption, that foolish is scum. austing and acrofales looked pretty good under that assumption. | ||
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