EPTOn March 13 2013 05:25 marvellosity wrote:
yes. you could well be right. At least i haven't got good reasons to call him town, and normally a town-BC has given me those reasons by now.
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On March 13 2013 04:49 prplhz wrote:
I think that BloodyC0bbler is scum.
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BloodyC0bbler starts out by jokingly pushing Ver and slOosh though it turns out that he is being very serious about this. This is similar to his opening post from Storm Mafia where he was scum. Nothing in PTP3, LVIII, Liquid City, LVI, L, all town games and in all games he got down to business.
His push on Ver is purely based on how Ver is not around and while BloodyC0bbler drops slOosh he keeps his Ver scum read right up until now. He has been told that Ver said before the game that he wouldn't have time before Monday but this doesn't stop BloodyC0bbler, even though BloodyC0bbler was lynched by a rampant town in his last game when he was in a similar situation to Ver's, having warned the thread about his projected activity but still getting lynched for it. Another really curious thing about the Ver push is this post. It makes no sense at all, because they are experienced they should have written an apology? But an apology (or the lack thereof) has no bearing on alignment at all, it is not hard to write an apology, it just seems too convinient for BloodyC0bbler to use this bad logic to legitimize his push.
This Ver push just seems very unlike BloodyC0bbler from his town games. While he does have early reads such as in PTP3 where he had an early Kurumi scum read, he interacts with the thread and he constantly evolves his reads. In a town game where he says in his fourth post that Kurumi is obviously scum, he still has a lot of other opinions and ends up voting differently. He's constantly reevaluating but there's nothing of that in this game.
How BloodyC0bbler is acting on D1 in general is curious. BloodyC0bbler is a guy who has a certain opinion of himself. Look at this post where he says that no one can say that he has bad D1 reads because of the list he made. Look at this post where he claims to be one of the most experienced players with the ability to lead. This is in a game with Foolishness, sandroba, Palmar and many other really good players but he still thinks he's the best choice for mayor. He has high thought of himself but he doesn't show that at all in this game, he's actually just sitting back and hoping that Ver will lynch himself.
About this very light pushing of Ver, even though he doesn't want to lynch wherebugsgo his activity becomes horrible up until the lynch. The last and biggest thing he does related to the lynch is this post:
"Its not so much policy as meta", does BloodyC0bbler even know himself why he is lynching Ver? And notice why he wants to lynch yamato77, it's not because he is scum but because he has played "obviously anti town". This is true but that's absolutely no reason to lynch him, this is no reason in itself to think that he is scum.
Even when I ask him what he meant with his decafchicken comment he doesn't use that in any way to influence the lynch. There's no "decafchicken was lynched because of dumb coincidence and we shouldn't repeat that here, lets lynch Ver because I have played 50 games with him and my D1 reads are awesome", he's just answering my dumb and largely irrelevant question.
Anyway, I really think that BloodyC0bbler is scum. How you guys feel about it?
I think that BloodyC0bbler is scum.
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BloodyC0bbler starts out by jokingly pushing Ver and slOosh though it turns out that he is being very serious about this. This is similar to his opening post from Storm Mafia where he was scum. Nothing in PTP3, LVIII, Liquid City, LVI, L, all town games and in all games he got down to business.
His push on Ver is purely based on how Ver is not around and while BloodyC0bbler drops slOosh he keeps his Ver scum read right up until now. He has been told that Ver said before the game that he wouldn't have time before Monday but this doesn't stop BloodyC0bbler, even though BloodyC0bbler was lynched by a rampant town in his last game when he was in a similar situation to Ver's, having warned the thread about his projected activity but still getting lynched for it. Another really curious thing about the Ver push is this post. It makes no sense at all, because they are experienced they should have written an apology? But an apology (or the lack thereof) has no bearing on alignment at all, it is not hard to write an apology, it just seems too convinient for BloodyC0bbler to use this bad logic to legitimize his push.
This Ver push just seems very unlike BloodyC0bbler from his town games. While he does have early reads such as in PTP3 where he had an early Kurumi scum read, he interacts with the thread and he constantly evolves his reads. In a town game where he says in his fourth post that Kurumi is obviously scum, he still has a lot of other opinions and ends up voting differently. He's constantly reevaluating but there's nothing of that in this game.
How BloodyC0bbler is acting on D1 in general is curious. BloodyC0bbler is a guy who has a certain opinion of himself. Look at this post where he says that no one can say that he has bad D1 reads because of the list he made. Look at this post where he claims to be one of the most experienced players with the ability to lead. This is in a game with Foolishness, sandroba, Palmar and many other really good players but he still thinks he's the best choice for mayor. He has high thought of himself but he doesn't show that at all in this game, he's actually just sitting back and hoping that Ver will lynch himself.
About this very light pushing of Ver, even though he doesn't want to lynch wherebugsgo his activity becomes horrible up until the lynch. The last and biggest thing he does related to the lynch is this post:
On March 12 2013 10:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Its not so much policy as meta. But again people can take it as they want. He has meshed up fully with his mafia meta from my experience and I know what hes capable of.
Yamato is important because he has played so obviously anti town. As annoying as Kurumi was being he was not actively doing anything others already weren't. Instead he shot him. He shot someone who was likely just a townie roleplaying instead of some mafia trolling.
On March 12 2013 10:02 strongandbig wrote:
I'm with you on wbg, bc
Why is Yamato so important to kill?
I kinda get Ver since he's a well known "good player", although I'm not sure why the timing of a policy lynch matters, but with Yamato it's not like he's on that level and he's under enough pressure that there's no risk of him slipping out of the spotlight.
I'm with you on wbg, bc
Why is Yamato so important to kill?
I kinda get Ver since he's a well known "good player", although I'm not sure why the timing of a policy lynch matters, but with Yamato it's not like he's on that level and he's under enough pressure that there's no risk of him slipping out of the spotlight.
Its not so much policy as meta. But again people can take it as they want. He has meshed up fully with his mafia meta from my experience and I know what hes capable of.
Yamato is important because he has played so obviously anti town. As annoying as Kurumi was being he was not actively doing anything others already weren't. Instead he shot him. He shot someone who was likely just a townie roleplaying instead of some mafia trolling.
"Its not so much policy as meta", does BloodyC0bbler even know himself why he is lynching Ver? And notice why he wants to lynch yamato77, it's not because he is scum but because he has played "obviously anti town". This is true but that's absolutely no reason to lynch him, this is no reason in itself to think that he is scum.
Even when I ask him what he meant with his decafchicken comment he doesn't use that in any way to influence the lynch. There's no "decafchicken was lynched because of dumb coincidence and we shouldn't repeat that here, lets lynch Ver because I have played 50 games with him and my D1 reads are awesome", he's just answering my dumb and largely irrelevant question.
Anyway, I really think that BloodyC0bbler is scum. How you guys feel about it?
yes. you could well be right. At least i haven't got good reasons to call him town, and normally a town-BC has given me those reasons by now.
I agree with this. prplhz I think you may be right too - there's just too little to go on right now. Ver isn't, strictly speaking, a bad target...it's just that, you're right...his reasoning is contradictory and a little too selective for my taste.
Do you think he's the best lynch tomorrow? You haven't commented on current discussions at all (which I'm aware is kinda your speed) do you think BC is a better lynch than like...Xfire? Vivax? Foolishness?
