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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 12 2013 20:28 GMT
#1881
On March 13 2013 05:25 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 04:49 prplhz wrote:
I think that BloodyC0bbler is scum.

filter

BloodyC0bbler starts out by jokingly pushing Ver and slOosh though it turns out that he is being very serious about this. This is similar to his opening post from Storm Mafia where he was scum. Nothing in PTP3, LVIII, Liquid City, LVI, L, all town games and in all games he got down to business.

His push on Ver is purely based on how Ver is not around and while BloodyC0bbler drops slOosh he keeps his Ver scum read right up until now. He has been told that Ver said before the game that he wouldn't have time before Monday but this doesn't stop BloodyC0bbler, even though BloodyC0bbler was lynched by a rampant town in his last game when he was in a similar situation to Ver's, having warned the thread about his projected activity but still getting lynched for it. Another really curious thing about the Ver push is this post. It makes no sense at all, because they are experienced they should have written an apology? But an apology (or the lack thereof) has no bearing on alignment at all, it is not hard to write an apology, it just seems too convinient for BloodyC0bbler to use this bad logic to legitimize his push.

This Ver push just seems very unlike BloodyC0bbler from his town games. While he does have early reads such as in PTP3 where he had an early Kurumi scum read, he interacts with the thread and he constantly evolves his reads. In a town game where he says in his fourth post that Kurumi is obviously scum, he still has a lot of other opinions and ends up voting differently. He's constantly reevaluating but there's nothing of that in this game.

How BloodyC0bbler is acting on D1 in general is curious. BloodyC0bbler is a guy who has a certain opinion of himself. Look at this post where he says that no one can say that he has bad D1 reads because of the list he made. Look at this post where he claims to be one of the most experienced players with the ability to lead. This is in a game with Foolishness, sandroba, Palmar and many other really good players but he still thinks he's the best choice for mayor. He has high thought of himself but he doesn't show that at all in this game, he's actually just sitting back and hoping that Ver will lynch himself.

About this very light pushing of Ver, even though he doesn't want to lynch wherebugsgo his activity becomes horrible up until the lynch. The last and biggest thing he does related to the lynch is this post:

On March 12 2013 10:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On March 12 2013 10:02 strongandbig wrote:
I'm with you on wbg, bc
Why is Yamato so important to kill?
I kinda get Ver since he's a well known "good player", although I'm not sure why the timing of a policy lynch matters, but with Yamato it's not like he's on that level and he's under enough pressure that there's no risk of him slipping out of the spotlight.


Its not so much policy as meta. But again people can take it as they want. He has meshed up fully with his mafia meta from my experience and I know what hes capable of.

Yamato is important because he has played so obviously anti town. As annoying as Kurumi was being he was not actively doing anything others already weren't. Instead he shot him. He shot someone who was likely just a townie roleplaying instead of some mafia trolling.


"Its not so much policy as meta", does BloodyC0bbler even know himself why he is lynching Ver? And notice why he wants to lynch yamato77, it's not because he is scum but because he has played "obviously anti town". This is true but that's absolutely no reason to lynch him, this is no reason in itself to think that he is scum.

Even when I ask him what he meant with his decafchicken comment he doesn't use that in any way to influence the lynch. There's no "decafchicken was lynched because of dumb coincidence and we shouldn't repeat that here, lets lynch Ver because I have played 50 games with him and my D1 reads are awesome", he's just answering my dumb and largely irrelevant question.

Anyway, I really think that BloodyC0bbler is scum. How you guys feel about it?


yes. you could well be right. At least i haven't got good reasons to call him town, and normally a town-BC has given me those reasons by now.


I agree with this. prplhz I think you may be right too - there's just too little to go on right now. Ver isn't, strictly speaking, a bad target...it's just that, you're right...his reasoning is contradictory and a little too selective for my taste.

Do you think he's the best lynch tomorrow? You haven't commented on current discussions at all (which I'm aware is kinda your speed) do you think BC is a better lynch than like...Xfire? Vivax? Foolishness?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 12 2013 20:32 GMT
#1882
@austinmcc Yea the "no u" exchange was something I found odd as well.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21991 Posts
March 12 2013 20:32 GMT
#1883
On March 13 2013 05:26 Acrofales wrote:
This thread grows 2 pages for every 1 I read. Can we please kill Vivax just to stop the rampant growth of bile in this game?


There is no bile from my side just lots of questions and persuasion attempts, also my post/content ratio is bigger than other's. I know however who you're on good terms with so I understand you're used to talking smack about others behind people's backs.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 12 2013 20:35 GMT
#1884
On March 13 2013 05:32 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 05:26 Acrofales wrote:
This thread grows 2 pages for every 1 I read. Can we please kill Vivax just to stop the rampant growth of bile in this game?


There is no bile from my side just lots of questions and persuasion attempts, also my post/content ratio is bigger than other's. I know however who you're on good terms with so I understand you're used to talking smack about others behind people's backs.


What does this even mean LMAO
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21991 Posts
March 12 2013 20:37 GMT
#1885
It means that his opinion is biased by his acquaintances on this forum so I'm the guy throwing bile while marv is the angel for calling me all sorts of insults.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 12 2013 20:39 GMT
#1886
I think that Vivax is completely trolling by now though I haven't read really scrutinized the Vivax/VisceraEyes/marvellosity debacle. I know I said "no N1 shots" but if someone is really trigger happy then shoot Vivax.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 12 2013 20:51 GMT
#1887
I don't know about Foolishness because I don't fully get the "he lied to smear me" point (I don't see how it's worth it if it's conscious, and I don't see it as a "slip". I'd rather lynch BloodyC0bbler as it is right now.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18004 Posts
March 12 2013 20:51 GMT
#1888
On March 13 2013 05:39 prplhz wrote:
I think that Vivax is completely trolling by now though I haven't read really scrutinized the Vivax/VisceraEyes/marvellosity debacle. I know I said "no N1 shots" but if someone is really trigger happy then shoot Vivax.

prplhz might be town. He's starting to make sense with his BC case and this post.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18004 Posts
March 12 2013 20:52 GMT
#1889
Also lol @ Vivax. I suggest you take a look at MTG mini mafia 2 if you think I'm afraid of calling Marv scum.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 12 2013 20:56 GMT
#1890
On March 13 2013 05:51 prplhz wrote:
I don't know about Foolishness because I don't fully get the "he lied to smear me" point (I don't see how it's worth it if it's conscious, and I don't see it as a "slip". I'd rather lynch BloodyC0bbler as it is right now.


It's more of a "he lied to cop out of explaining his read on marv" but yeah, I get what you're saying. We'll see what happens this night.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21991 Posts
March 12 2013 20:56 GMT
#1891
On March 13 2013 05:52 Acrofales wrote:
Also lol @ Vivax. I suggest you take a look at MTG mini mafia 2 if you think I'm afraid of calling Marv scum.


No but saying I'm playing anti-town is wrong. There's something marv is withholding from us and needs to explain himself, I believe yamato is scum and I push for these two targets.

If people at least helped to find out why marv lied about something that doesn't make sense to lie about if he's town then I wouldn't have to spam up things cause people refuse to answer, all it needs is some pressure from others, not comments about me being shot cause of something that applies more to others than to me.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 20:59 GMT
#1892
Vivax, a parity cop is a cop. And I said why I claimed as I did, as usual you just haven't read the thread.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21991 Posts
March 12 2013 21:07 GMT
#1893
How is saying parity cop over cop (hello, both cops) worse than using a lie to call someone mafia? what drugs are you smoking? what was my motivation for doing that as mafia? why am i doing it as town? maybe to try to be vague so mafia don't know EXACTLY what I'm doing? what the fuck is wrong with you?


No, if both were simply cops then hosts wouldn't force you to claim parity cop.

You claimed something that makes you look more threatening for mafia (and thus more likely to get shot/roleblocked), and they know who you want to check anyway so for them it wouldn't make any difference whatsoever except that it would be more attractive for them to attack you in some way.

So saying that they mustn't know exactly what you're doing doesn't hold.

On the other hand the benefits you'd have from claiming DT over parity cop as scum are evident, as summarized here:

On March 13 2013 04:38 Vivax wrote:
For some reason you wanted to appear as cop over parity cop which would appear more dangerous for scum, so it doesn't make sense for you to lie about it this way if you're town.

Scummarv claims cop → I can claim to have gotten any check back I wanted.
Scummarv claims parity cop → My checks are limited and if one guy is of one alignment the other must be of the opposite

Townmarv claims cop → I look more dangerous for scum and am at risk of getting RBd/killed. Also I won't actually know if someone is really scum after N1 even though I claimed I would.
Townmarv claims parity cop → Honest answer, town will know what it has to expect.

Summary: Townmarv wouldn't lie about being a cop over a parity cop.
[/spoiler]

If your whole reason for lying about your role is that you don't want scum to know what you're doing then it doesn't make a difference cause if anything it makes you a more likely target for their actions. So explain to me where this argument is wrong please.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 12 2013 21:08 GMT
#1894
Acro you asked me about my meta read on Ver. Do you have further comment other than "we disagree"?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
March 12 2013 21:11 GMT
#1895
On March 13 2013 05:26 Vivax wrote:
Tomorrow it might be clear however depending on how this night goes.

Supersoft can I add that you remind me of your LVIII self? You are preparing your famous lists yes?


sure, but this game i wont give them to you.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 12 2013 21:12 GMT
#1896
A parity cop is less powerful than a regular cop - my assumption is that he originally tried to just claim a regular cop, but the mods made him be more specific because VE wouldn't be afraid to claim his FULL ROLE AND INTENDED ACTIONS LIKE A FUCKING BAUS.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 21:12 GMT
#1897
A parity cop where I get both my checks in one night (unlike a usual parity cop who gets one a night) is far more dangerous than a normal cop, because theoretically I get 2 alignments (assuming I'm clever enough to work out which is which if they're opposite).

Again, the fact you're asking a blue to clarify exactly how his role works at night is one of the most exceptionally dull things I've ever seen in a game of mafia.

Whether I'm claiming parity cop or cop, I am a target for mafia. Do you think if I claimed parity cop immediately, mafia think "oh, na, that's not dangerous at all! we'll leave him!"? No.

Scummarv claims parity cop → My checks are limited and if one guy is of one alignment the other must be of the opposite - one player doesn't have to be the opposite.

Your entire premise of everything makes no sense.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 12 2013 21:15 GMT
#1898
Hey guys, just woke up. Catching up now.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
March 12 2013 21:20 GMT
#1899
marv, I don't care if your role involves having to claim things, it's a bad idea to spell it out more than you need to in the thread.
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 21:21 GMT
#1900
On March 13 2013 06:20 austinmcc wrote:
marv, I don't care if your role involves having to claim things, it's a bad idea to spell it out more than you need to in the thread.


yes, i know, i know. the only thing worse than Vivax questioning a blue about his role at night is the guy being stupid enough to answer.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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