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On March 13 2013 04:20 Vivax wrote:
Well I don't care
justice is approaching
marv beware
And you Promethelax
Your trusted circle sucks
Join me in my pressure
and we'll find the red treasure
oh you think that yours is better?
you have Fool who sent a letter
and Super so soft his has fallen to apart
to which of these will you hitch your cart?
I say "witch, its time to get wetter!"
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On March 13 2013 04:12 Vivax wrote:
Look at what marv said, he seems to have been forced by the hosts to say that he's a parity cop and not just a cop so apparently he initially lied about his role O_o
I have to announce my role and my targets. I was hoping to be fancy with it and be vague enough that mafia don't know exactly what I'm doing. Hence why I claimed cop, then claimed two targets, and said "and stuff" in a vague manner.
Apparently my 2nd post might not even be acceptable either because I didn't put my targets with the exact reference parity cop, but I'm hoping I'll be allowed to get away with that one.
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I've never claimed like that. /indignant
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On March 13 2013 04:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
I've never claimed like that. /indignant
i know, it's actually an extremely dull way for the role to work because I can't even get at all creative with it.
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On March 13 2013 04:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 04:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
I've never claimed like that. /indignant i know, it's actually an extremely dull way for the role to work because I can't even get at all creative with it. Perhaps you don't have to claim to be checking only your targets?
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No way you are demanding RB or Framer. Just like I'm demanding KP tonight. I think it's adorable. <3
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On March 13 2013 04:31 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 04:27 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 04:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
I've never claimed like that. /indignant i know, it's actually an extremely dull way for the role to work because I can't even get at all creative with it. Perhaps you don't have to claim to be checking only your targets?
No, I have to be extremely specific on exactly who I'm targeting.
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On March 13 2013 04:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
No way you are demanding RB or Framer. Just like I'm demanding KP tonight. I think it's adorable. <3
adorable, perhaps. more annoying. lol
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On March 13 2013 04:25 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 04:12 Vivax wrote:
Look at what marv said, he seems to have been forced by the hosts to say that he's a parity cop and not just a cop so apparently he initially lied about his role O_o I have to announce my role and my targets. I was hoping to be fancy with it and be vague enough that mafia don't know exactly what I'm doing. Hence why I claimed cop, then claimed two targets, and said "and stuff" in a vague manner. Apparently my 2nd post might not even be acceptable either because I didn't put my targets with the exact reference parity cop, but I'm hoping I'll be allowed to get away with that one.
And why did you think it would be better for you to claim cop over parity cop? How did you think would it be better if scum though this?
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On March 12 2013 01:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Seriously guys I'm not scum. Last time xfire did this that I remember he was total scummers (MtGII), last time I did this I was still town.
On March 12 2013 01:33 Stutters695 wrote:
I've also never role-played I'm game before. My money is on xfire flipping scum.
What the hell is this, and why did everybody move away from Stutters?
I get that his later posting got a bit better, but here he claims he did this before, and was town. Then when it's pointed out that he never did this before (and he has never rolled scum, keep that in mind) he uses roleplaying Kenpachi as a "new" excuse, which contradicts his old one.
Lazy scum is lazy.
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On March 13 2013 04:32 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 04:25 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 04:12 Vivax wrote:
Look at what marv said, he seems to have been forced by the hosts to say that he's a parity cop and not just a cop so apparently he initially lied about his role O_o I have to announce my role and my targets. I was hoping to be fancy with it and be vague enough that mafia don't know exactly what I'm doing. Hence why I claimed cop, then claimed two targets, and said "and stuff" in a vague manner. Apparently my 2nd post might not even be acceptable either because I didn't put my targets with the exact reference parity cop, but I'm hoping I'll be allowed to get away with that one. And why did you think it would be better for you to claim cop over parity cop? How did you think would it be better if scum though this?
why don't you stop asking really stupid questions?
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On March 13 2013 04:23 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 04:20 Acrofales wrote:On March 13 2013 02:51 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 02:49 Acrofales wrote:On March 13 2013 01:55 strongandbig wrote:On March 13 2013 01:52 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, and one other thing. What "balance" reason can anybody come up with for giving a scum a modconfirmed DT check? If the DT check was also Yamato, how the fuck does that work as scum? And if he got it, why in god's name would he EVER use it? foolishness or radfield role is town powers but scum aligned, they're well known for being amazing as town but both terrible as scum and hating to play scum. like how wbg role was town powers but scum aligned the day vig would have been the hidden "beneficial" side of the power, he wouldn't have been told about it until after the public dt check happened. I thought you were pretty levelheaded and townie at the time, but this post is not making sense to me. WBG's role was survivor, not scum aligned. His powers were meh. Unless you are talking about Kurumi, in which case he was town aligned, not scum aligned at all. The impression I got from Yamato is that he knew all along what his power would do. Now, why would scum get a DT check? It makes no sense. Even if it is combined with a dayvig. Either Yamato is lying about how his power works, or he is town. The role makes NO sense for scum. I'm pretty wary of this argument. Just because it makes no sense, it doesn't mean that it's in fact not the case ;p there's enough other reasons to make a read of the situation one way or another without worrying whether a role makes sense for a particular alignment. Fine. I see no reason why scum would use an anonymous dayvig shot to take out Kurumi, when they could use it on any one of the high profile targets. I definitely see no reason why scum would CLAIM their anonymous dayvig shot after using it, especially if the only way it gets outed is if it is first confirmed to hit a townie. Even if you think the "balance" reason is not valid, the way it was used is completely stupid for scum. Scum doesn't shoot scumspect townies who are martyring themselves and shitting up the thread. They definitely don't announce that they are doing that: they know that player is a townie. Unless you've seen yamato's PM, you don't know if it's anonymous. There was no ##Shoot: Kurumi, but the "pro GF snipe" was a pretty clear reference to MZ's shot. It wasn't like we were confused as to who had shot once it happened.
Kitaman's announcements only announced MZ, not that it was Yamato as MZ. It was therefore anonymous (there were no actions in the thread or vote thread).
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On March 13 2013 04:33 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 04:32 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2013 04:25 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 04:12 Vivax wrote:
Look at what marv said, he seems to have been forced by the hosts to say that he's a parity cop and not just a cop so apparently he initially lied about his role O_o I have to announce my role and my targets. I was hoping to be fancy with it and be vague enough that mafia don't know exactly what I'm doing. Hence why I claimed cop, then claimed two targets, and said "and stuff" in a vague manner. Apparently my 2nd post might not even be acceptable either because I didn't put my targets with the exact reference parity cop, but I'm hoping I'll be allowed to get away with that one. And why did you think it would be better for you to claim cop over parity cop? How did you think would it be better if scum though this? why don't you stop asking really stupid questions?
It's in your interest to answer me before I leave.
You are confirmed liar (: . Nice that you call Foolishness scum over a lie that is arguably not as bad as yours.
For some reason you wanted to appear as cop over parity cop which would appear more dangerous for scum, so it doesn't make sense for you to lie about it this way if you're town.
Scummarv claims cop → I can claim to have gotten any check back I wanted.
Scummarv claims parity cop → My checks are limited and if one guy is of one alignment the other must be of the opposite[/spoiler]
Townmarv claims cop → I look more dangerous for scum and am at risk of getting RBd/killed. Also I won't actually know if someone is really scum after N1 even though I claimed I would.
Townmarv claims parity cop → Honest answer, town will know what it has to expect.
Summary: Townmarv wouldn't lie about being a cop over a parity cop.
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On March 13 2013 04:34 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 04:23 austinmcc wrote:On March 13 2013 04:20 Acrofales wrote:On March 13 2013 02:51 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 02:49 Acrofales wrote:On March 13 2013 01:55 strongandbig wrote:On March 13 2013 01:52 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, and one other thing. What "balance" reason can anybody come up with for giving a scum a modconfirmed DT check? If the DT check was also Yamato, how the fuck does that work as scum? And if he got it, why in god's name would he EVER use it? foolishness or radfield role is town powers but scum aligned, they're well known for being amazing as town but both terrible as scum and hating to play scum. like how wbg role was town powers but scum aligned the day vig would have been the hidden "beneficial" side of the power, he wouldn't have been told about it until after the public dt check happened. I thought you were pretty levelheaded and townie at the time, but this post is not making sense to me. WBG's role was survivor, not scum aligned. His powers were meh. Unless you are talking about Kurumi, in which case he was town aligned, not scum aligned at all. The impression I got from Yamato is that he knew all along what his power would do. Now, why would scum get a DT check? It makes no sense. Even if it is combined with a dayvig. Either Yamato is lying about how his power works, or he is town. The role makes NO sense for scum. I'm pretty wary of this argument. Just because it makes no sense, it doesn't mean that it's in fact not the case ;p there's enough other reasons to make a read of the situation one way or another without worrying whether a role makes sense for a particular alignment. Fine. I see no reason why scum would use an anonymous dayvig shot to take out Kurumi, when they could use it on any one of the high profile targets. I definitely see no reason why scum would CLAIM their anonymous dayvig shot after using it, especially if the only way it gets outed is if it is first confirmed to hit a townie. Even if you think the "balance" reason is not valid, the way it was used is completely stupid for scum. Scum doesn't shoot scumspect townies who are martyring themselves and shitting up the thread. They definitely don't announce that they are doing that: they know that player is a townie. Unless you've seen yamato's PM, you don't know if it's anonymous. There was no ##Shoot: Kurumi, but the "pro GF snipe" was a pretty clear reference to MZ's shot. It wasn't like we were confused as to who had shot once it happened. Kitaman's announcements only announced MZ, not that it was Yamato as MZ. It was therefore anonymous (there were no actions in the thread or vote thread). The check, yeah. But there was a long delay before the shot. And in the intervening time, yamato posted his pro GF snipe.
I agree with poor choice, but everyone seems to be using different terminology to describe what happened and it's no good. We do not know whether it was anonymous or not. We can be more sure the check/announcement was anonymous, but there's a possibility the shot was triggered by the pro GF snipe comment.
Nitpicky, but you're assuming something we don't know.
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On March 13 2013 04:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think Ver is lying about not reading his role. That is an active decision to play against your win con, and Ver doesn't strike me as that sort of player from my limited experience with him. He also doesn't strike me as the type of scum player who would draw attention to himself by lying in such a manner. Conversely, Ver strikes me as EXACTLY the kind of town player who would lie about reading his Role PM.
Ver should be considered town Imo. Whatever that's worth.
Can you expand the meta read a bit? I still think it's a scum cop-out saying "guys, I cannot be held accountable for my shit". If it was a trap, he should have come back and sprung it. He didn't. The post was just an excuse to screw around, which is exactly what he has done.
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On March 13 2013 04:39 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 04:34 Acrofales wrote:On March 13 2013 04:23 austinmcc wrote:On March 13 2013 04:20 Acrofales wrote:On March 13 2013 02:51 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 02:49 Acrofales wrote:On March 13 2013 01:55 strongandbig wrote:On March 13 2013 01:52 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, and one other thing. What "balance" reason can anybody come up with for giving a scum a modconfirmed DT check? If the DT check was also Yamato, how the fuck does that work as scum? And if he got it, why in god's name would he EVER use it? foolishness or radfield role is town powers but scum aligned, they're well known for being amazing as town but both terrible as scum and hating to play scum. like how wbg role was town powers but scum aligned the day vig would have been the hidden "beneficial" side of the power, he wouldn't have been told about it until after the public dt check happened. I thought you were pretty levelheaded and townie at the time, but this post is not making sense to me. WBG's role was survivor, not scum aligned. His powers were meh. Unless you are talking about Kurumi, in which case he was town aligned, not scum aligned at all. The impression I got from Yamato is that he knew all along what his power would do. Now, why would scum get a DT check? It makes no sense. Even if it is combined with a dayvig. Either Yamato is lying about how his power works, or he is town. The role makes NO sense for scum. I'm pretty wary of this argument. Just because it makes no sense, it doesn't mean that it's in fact not the case ;p there's enough other reasons to make a read of the situation one way or another without worrying whether a role makes sense for a particular alignment. Fine. I see no reason why scum would use an anonymous dayvig shot to take out Kurumi, when they could use it on any one of the high profile targets. I definitely see no reason why scum would CLAIM their anonymous dayvig shot after using it, especially if the only way it gets outed is if it is first confirmed to hit a townie. Even if you think the "balance" reason is not valid, the way it was used is completely stupid for scum. Scum doesn't shoot scumspect townies who are martyring themselves and shitting up the thread. They definitely don't announce that they are doing that: they know that player is a townie. Unless you've seen yamato's PM, you don't know if it's anonymous. There was no ##Shoot: Kurumi, but the "pro GF snipe" was a pretty clear reference to MZ's shot. It wasn't like we were confused as to who had shot once it happened. Kitaman's announcements only announced MZ, not that it was Yamato as MZ. It was therefore anonymous (there were no actions in the thread or vote thread). The check, yeah. But there was a long delay before the shot. And in the intervening time, yamato posted his pro GF snipe. I agree with poor choice, but everyone seems to be using different terminology to describe what happened and it's no good. We do not know whether it was anonymous or not. We can be more sure the check/announcement was anonymous, but there's a possibility the shot was triggered by the pro GF snipe comment. Nitpicky, but you're assuming something we don't know.
If the shot was not anonymous and Yamato is scum, then scum has a mod-confirmed DT check. WHY WOULD SCUM EVER USE THIS?
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On March 13 2013 04:38 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 04:33 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 04:32 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2013 04:25 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 04:12 Vivax wrote:
Look at what marv said, he seems to have been forced by the hosts to say that he's a parity cop and not just a cop so apparently he initially lied about his role O_o I have to announce my role and my targets. I was hoping to be fancy with it and be vague enough that mafia don't know exactly what I'm doing. Hence why I claimed cop, then claimed two targets, and said "and stuff" in a vague manner. Apparently my 2nd post might not even be acceptable either because I didn't put my targets with the exact reference parity cop, but I'm hoping I'll be allowed to get away with that one. And why did you think it would be better for you to claim cop over parity cop? How did you think would it be better if scum though this? why don't you stop asking really stupid questions? It's in your interest to answer me before I leave. You are confirmed liar (: . Nice that you call Foolishness scum over a lie that is arguably not as bad as yours. For some reason you wanted to appear as cop over parity cop which would appear more dangerous for scum, so it doesn't make sense for you to lie about it this way if you're town. Scummarv claims cop → I can claim to have gotten any check back I wanted. Scummarv claims parity cop → My checks are limited and if one guy is of one alignment the other must be of the opposite Townmarv claims cop → I look more dangerous for scum and am at risk of getting RBd/killed. Also I won't actually know if someone is really scum after N1 even though I claimed I would. Townmarv claims parity cop → Honest answer, town will know what it has to expect. Summary: Townmarv wouldn't lie about being a cop over a parity cop. [/spoiler]
If you are somehow town, you are by far the worst player I have ever played with in all my games of mafia. By far. You are so atrocious it's unbelievable.
How is saying parity cop over cop (hello, both cops) worse than using a lie to call someone mafia? what drugs are you smoking? what was my motivation for doing that as mafia? why am i doing it as town? maybe to try to be vague so mafia don't know EXACTLY what I'm doing? what the fuck is wrong with you?
why are you questioning me on the specifics of my blue role at night? WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU DO THAT?
If you're town, you actually need psychiatric help because you're fucking insane.
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On March 13 2013 04:23 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 04:20 Vivax wrote:
Well I don't care
justice is approaching
marv beware
And you Promethelax
Your trusted circle sucks
Join me in my pressure
and we'll find the red treasure oh you think that yours is better? you have Fool who sent a letter and Super so soft his has fallen to apart to which of these will you hitch your cart? I say "witch, its time to get wetter!"
this wasn't all rhetoric viv
in which town circle do you think you live?
Is it Fool/Super/you?
or some other poo?
Your answer I'd like you to give
now I am writing limerick 179
the count is just mine
don't worry, its not role related-ed
and now trap has been baited
I that your morning be fine!.
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On March 13 2013 04:42 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 04:38 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2013 04:33 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 04:32 Vivax wrote:On March 13 2013 04:25 marvellosity wrote:On March 13 2013 04:12 Vivax wrote:
Look at what marv said, he seems to have been forced by the hosts to say that he's a parity cop and not just a cop so apparently he initially lied about his role O_o I have to announce my role and my targets. I was hoping to be fancy with it and be vague enough that mafia don't know exactly what I'm doing. Hence why I claimed cop, then claimed two targets, and said "and stuff" in a vague manner. Apparently my 2nd post might not even be acceptable either because I didn't put my targets with the exact reference parity cop, but I'm hoping I'll be allowed to get away with that one. And why did you think it would be better for you to claim cop over parity cop? How did you think would it be better if scum though this? why don't you stop asking really stupid questions? It's in your interest to answer me before I leave. You are confirmed liar (: . Nice that you call Foolishness scum over a lie that is arguably not as bad as yours. For some reason you wanted to appear as cop over parity cop which would appear more dangerous for scum, so it doesn't make sense for you to lie about it this way if you're town. Scummarv claims cop → I can claim to have gotten any check back I wanted. Scummarv claims parity cop → My checks are limited and if one guy is of one alignment the other must be of the opposite Townmarv claims cop → I look more dangerous for scum and am at risk of getting RBd/killed. Also I won't actually know if someone is really scum after N1 even though I claimed I would. Townmarv claims parity cop → Honest answer, town will know what it has to expect. Summary: Townmarv wouldn't lie about being a cop over a parity cop. If you are somehow town, you are by far the worst player I have ever played with in all my games of mafia. By far. You are so atrocious it's unbelievable. How is saying parity cop over cop (hello, both cops) worse than using a lie to call someone mafia? what drugs are you smoking? what was my motivation for doing that as mafia? why am i doing it as town? maybe to try to be vague so mafia don't know EXACTLY what I'm doing? what the fuck is wrong with you? why are you questioning me on the specifics of my blue role at night? WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU DO THAT? If you're town, you actually need psychiatric help because you're fucking insane. [/spoiler]
Oh we're back to this Foolish didn't lie to call you mafia he allegedly lied to say he's not sure about you.
Marvybaby so mad  , ragequit like in LVIII please instead of spamming your one-liners 
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I think that BloodyC0bbler is scum.
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BloodyC0bbler starts out by jokingly pushing Ver and slOosh though it turns out that he is being very serious about this. This is similar to his opening post from Storm Mafia where he was scum. Nothing in PTP3, LVIII, Liquid City, LVI, L, all town games and in all games he got down to business.
His push on Ver is purely based on how Ver is not around and while BloodyC0bbler drops slOosh he keeps his Ver scum read right up until now. He has been told that Ver said before the game that he wouldn't have time before Monday but this doesn't stop BloodyC0bbler, even though BloodyC0bbler was lynched by a rampant town in his last game when he was in a similar situation to Ver's, having warned the thread about his projected activity but still getting lynched for it. Another really curious thing about the Ver push is this post. It makes no sense at all, because they are experienced they should have written an apology? But an apology (or the lack thereof) has no bearing on alignment at all, it is not hard to write an apology, it just seems too convinient for BloodyC0bbler to use this bad logic to legitimize his push.
This Ver push just seems very unlike BloodyC0bbler from his town games. While he does have early reads such as in PTP3 where he had an early Kurumi scum read, he interacts with the thread and he constantly evolves his reads. In a town game where he says in his fourth post that Kurumi is obviously scum, he still has a lot of other opinions and ends up voting differently. He's constantly reevaluating but there's nothing of that in this game.
How BloodyC0bbler is acting on D1 in general is curious. BloodyC0bbler is a guy who has a certain opinion of himself. Look at this post where he says that no one can say that he has bad D1 reads because of the list he made. Look at this post where he claims to be one of the most experienced players with the ability to lead. This is in a game with Foolishness, sandroba, Palmar and many other really good players but he still thinks he's the best choice for mayor. He has high thought of himself but he doesn't show that at all in this game, he's actually just sitting back and hoping that Ver will lynch himself.
About this very light pushing of Ver, even though he doesn't want to lynch wherebugsgo his activity becomes horrible up until the lynch. The last and biggest thing he does related to the lynch is this post:
On March 12 2013 10:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 10:02 strongandbig wrote:
I'm with you on wbg, bc
Why is Yamato so important to kill?
I kinda get Ver since he's a well known "good player", although I'm not sure why the timing of a policy lynch matters, but with Yamato it's not like he's on that level and he's under enough pressure that there's no risk of him slipping out of the spotlight. Its not so much policy as meta. But again people can take it as they want. He has meshed up fully with his mafia meta from my experience and I know what hes capable of. Yamato is important because he has played so obviously anti town. As annoying as Kurumi was being he was not actively doing anything others already weren't. Instead he shot him. He shot someone who was likely just a townie roleplaying instead of some mafia trolling.
"Its not so much policy as meta", does BloodyC0bbler even know himself why he is lynching Ver? And notice why he wants to lynch yamato77, it's not because he is scum but because he has played "obviously anti town". This is true but that's absolutely no reason to lynch him, this is no reason in itself to think that he is scum.
Even when I ask him what he meant with his decafchicken comment he doesn't use that in any way to influence the lynch. There's no "decafchicken was lynched because of dumb coincidence and we shouldn't repeat that here, lets lynch Ver because I have played 50 games with him and my D1 reads are awesome", he's just answering my dumb and largely irrelevant question.
Anyway, I really think that BloodyC0bbler is scum. How you guys feel about it?
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