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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
March 12 2013 14:53 GMT
#1661
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On March 12 2013 23:52 Acrofales wrote:
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On March 12 2013 23:37 Vivax wrote:
Well anyway a little contribution to reading marv properly:

Guess his alignment 1

Guess his alignment 2

Guess it 3

Way to be useless. Are you calling Marv scum or town, based on meta? What a pointless post.


Your post sure is "useful". You give no impression of marv yourself and you didn't read that I lean scum on him.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17959 Posts
March 12 2013 14:54 GMT
#1662
For the record, I haven't gotten past where I was yesterday and think Marv looks more like town Marv D1 from duel, than scum Marv. Plus, Marv is the D3 policy lynch, so I am not too worried about him. If scum hasn't killed him off by D3, we lynch him.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 12 2013 14:54 GMT
#1663
On March 12 2013 23:49 yamato77 wrote:
For reference, this is the justification he gives for thinking I'm mafia:

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On March 12 2013 09:44 Foolishness wrote:
On March 12 2013 09:41 strongandbig wrote:
damn really? what am i missing here

Actually, yamato makes a lot of sense. He's more trolly and abrasive when he's mafia. When I say that, I mean he's direct about his insults: "you're an asshat", etc. Refer to Fruity Mini Mafia to see this in action (when he's mafia). In Town Ain't Big Enough Mafia, he was town, and while his posting rate was the same, he wasn't as abrasive and didn't swear as much. More importantly, in that game he was actually helpful and contributing.


I have a history of being abrasive as any alignment. Ask anyone who has ever played with me, period. Also of note, scum Hapa used this same stupid fucking argument to justify his scum read on me in Duel/TTABE Mafia. Not a good reason, and complete bullshit. This is pathetic and not good enough. Hold Foolish accountable for justifying his reads, because he fucking isn't.

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On March 12 2013 12:08 Foolishness wrote:
No, there's only crappy evidence on why Vivax is mafia.

When he's mafia, he spams one liners (with the very rare long post). See TL Mafia LX here. He's mafia and he literally did nothing day 1 except post one liners and derp around.

Now look when he's town in British II here. He barely posts any one liners, and his posts have substance; he actually says what he thinks. He doesn't derp.

And this game he doesn't have one liners and is clearly trying.


Another inaccurate meta analysis. Vivax is derpy as town, read LIX. He's also constructed as mafia, in LVIII. He tries as either alignment. You can't just brush him off as mafia just because he posts more than one fucking line. Complete lie, and something Foolish knows isn't true.

Scum Foolish is hoping no one calls him on his bullshit that knows better. I know better. Read the fucking games, realize Foolish is lying, and lynch his lazy scummy ass.
So you're just going to repeat the past 4-5 pages of thread and act as if its a revelation because it came out of your ass.

What was the point of this post? The EXACT same info is already there...

Right now, I want to know your read on Vivax.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 14:54 GMT
#1664
On March 12 2013 23:54 Acrofales wrote:
For the record, I haven't gotten past where I was yesterday and think Marv looks more like town Marv D1 from duel, than scum Marv. Plus, Marv is the D3 policy lynch, so I am not too worried about him. If scum hasn't killed him off by D3, we lynch him.


Kinda a suspicious attitude given the playerlist this game. Policy lynch me ahead of Foolish or Ver or BC or super if they're alive?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 12 2013 14:55 GMT
#1665
On March 12 2013 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 23:54 Acrofales wrote:
For the record, I haven't gotten past where I was yesterday and think Marv looks more like town Marv D1 from duel, than scum Marv. Plus, Marv is the D3 policy lynch, so I am not too worried about him. If scum hasn't killed him off by D3, we lynch him.


Kinda a suspicious attitude given the playerlist this game. Policy lynch me ahead of Foolish or Ver or BC or super if they're alive?

Well they all playing really bad, so I can see it.

It's a lazy attitude.
Not really suspicious in itself.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
March 12 2013 14:56 GMT
#1666
On March 12 2013 23:54 Acrofales wrote:
For the record, I haven't gotten past where I was yesterday and think Marv looks more like town Marv D1 from duel, than scum Marv. Plus, Marv is the D3 policy lynch, so I am not too worried about him. If scum hasn't killed him off by D3, we lynch him.


Well in Hero I said lynch him at lylo (actually asked for it before even) but no one did. It's cool that you think too he should be policy lynched but try to convince town first cause people on this forum listen more to the name than to the argument as shown by Sandro smurfing as JungleJorge in LX.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 12 2013 14:58 GMT
#1667
On March 12 2013 23:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 23:54 Acrofales wrote:
For the record, I haven't gotten past where I was yesterday and think Marv looks more like town Marv D1 from duel, than scum Marv. Plus, Marv is the D3 policy lynch, so I am not too worried about him. If scum hasn't killed him off by D3, we lynch him.


Kinda a suspicious attitude given the playerlist this game. Policy lynch me ahead of Foolish or Ver or BC or super if they're alive?

Well they all playing really bad, so I can see it.

It's a lazy attitude.
Not really suspicious in itself.


you implie they are town
with the slips you've come down
so please do explain
what has so affected your brain
on you I just may set hounds.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 12 2013 14:58 GMT
#1668
On March 12 2013 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 23:54 Acrofales wrote:
For the record, I haven't gotten past where I was yesterday and think Marv looks more like town Marv D1 from duel, than scum Marv. Plus, Marv is the D3 policy lynch, so I am not too worried about him. If scum hasn't killed him off by D3, we lynch him.


Kinda a suspicious attitude given the playerlist this game. Policy lynch me ahead of Foolish or Ver or BC or super if they're alive?

[fluff]
I know those guys are super vets & all
But.. do they still play enough to be at the peak of their game?
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
March 12 2013 14:59 GMT
#1669
On March 12 2013 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 23:54 Acrofales wrote:
For the record, I haven't gotten past where I was yesterday and think Marv looks more like town Marv D1 from duel, than scum Marv. Plus, Marv is the D3 policy lynch, so I am not too worried about him. If scum hasn't killed him off by D3, we lynch him.


Kinda a suspicious attitude given the playerlist this game. Policy lynch me ahead of Foolish or Ver or BC or super if they're alive?


When you're the only one of that group taking an active interest in leading town, then yes. Docs should be on you might one, you should be a possible policy lynch day three.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 15:00 GMT
#1670
On March 12 2013 23:59 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 23:54 Acrofales wrote:
For the record, I haven't gotten past where I was yesterday and think Marv looks more like town Marv D1 from duel, than scum Marv. Plus, Marv is the D3 policy lynch, so I am not too worried about him. If scum hasn't killed him off by D3, we lynch him.


Kinda a suspicious attitude given the playerlist this game. Policy lynch me ahead of Foolish or Ver or BC or super if they're alive?


When you're the only one of that group taking an active interest in leading town, then yes. Docs should be on you might one, you should be a possible policy lynch day three.


I love mafia logic sometimes

only one who cares about town ----> lynch him before the people who don't

lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17959 Posts
March 12 2013 15:00 GMT
#1671
On March 12 2013 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 23:54 Acrofales wrote:
For the record, I haven't gotten past where I was yesterday and think Marv looks more like town Marv D1 from duel, than scum Marv. Plus, Marv is the D3 policy lynch, so I am not too worried about him. If scum hasn't killed him off by D3, we lynch him.


Kinda a suspicious attitude given the playerlist this game. Policy lynch me ahead of Foolish or Ver or BC or super if they're alive?

I don't really expect any of them to be alive D3. Scum has 3 KP tonight and a minimum of 2 tomorrow. Medic wifom aside, all high-profile targets should be dead, or serious scumspects by D3, and you are a high-profile target. I wouldn't include supersoft in that list, btw.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 12 2013 15:01 GMT
#1672
On March 12 2013 23:58 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 23:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 12 2013 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 23:54 Acrofales wrote:
For the record, I haven't gotten past where I was yesterday and think Marv looks more like town Marv D1 from duel, than scum Marv. Plus, Marv is the D3 policy lynch, so I am not too worried about him. If scum hasn't killed him off by D3, we lynch him.


Kinda a suspicious attitude given the playerlist this game. Policy lynch me ahead of Foolish or Ver or BC or super if they're alive?

Well they all playing really bad, so I can see it.

It's a lazy attitude.
Not really suspicious in itself.


you implie they are town
with the slips you've come down
so please do explain
what has so affected your brain
on you I just may set hounds.

well around ~2 of them gotta be town.

Given that Vivax, Cross and Fool are already 3 scum, so only 2 spots left.

Do you think fool ver bc super are all scum, hm?
A backwards poet writes inverse.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 15:01 GMT
#1673
On March 13 2013 00:00 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 23:54 Acrofales wrote:
For the record, I haven't gotten past where I was yesterday and think Marv looks more like town Marv D1 from duel, than scum Marv. Plus, Marv is the D3 policy lynch, so I am not too worried about him. If scum hasn't killed him off by D3, we lynch him.


Kinda a suspicious attitude given the playerlist this game. Policy lynch me ahead of Foolish or Ver or BC or super if they're alive?

I don't really expect any of them to be alive D3. Scum has 3 KP tonight and a minimum of 2 tomorrow. Medic wifom aside, all high-profile targets should be dead, or serious scumspects by D3, and you are a high-profile target. I wouldn't include supersoft in that list, btw.


Alright. I don't really live until Day 3 very much so let's see how it goes ;p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 12 2013 15:03 GMT
#1674
On March 12 2013 23:59 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 23:54 Acrofales wrote:
For the record, I haven't gotten past where I was yesterday and think Marv looks more like town Marv D1 from duel, than scum Marv. Plus, Marv is the D3 policy lynch, so I am not too worried about him. If scum hasn't killed him off by D3, we lynch him.


Kinda a suspicious attitude given the playerlist this game. Policy lynch me ahead of Foolish or Ver or BC or super if they're alive?


When you're the only one of that group taking an active interest in leading town, then yes. Docs should be on you might one, you should be a possible policy lynch day three.


thats a terible policy
c'mon now, don't you see?
marv is the lylo lynch my friend
but we don't kill him before the very end
1) he is town and 2) think of biology

I say let the fittest survive
though no progeny he provides
marv is our top dog,
an integral cog,
in this town hive.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 12 2013 15:05 GMT
#1675
On March 13 2013 00:01 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 23:58 Promethelax wrote:
On March 12 2013 23:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 12 2013 23:54 marvellosity wrote:
On March 12 2013 23:54 Acrofales wrote:
For the record, I haven't gotten past where I was yesterday and think Marv looks more like town Marv D1 from duel, than scum Marv. Plus, Marv is the D3 policy lynch, so I am not too worried about him. If scum hasn't killed him off by D3, we lynch him.


Kinda a suspicious attitude given the playerlist this game. Policy lynch me ahead of Foolish or Ver or BC or super if they're alive?

Well they all playing really bad, so I can see it.

It's a lazy attitude.
Not really suspicious in itself.


you implie they are town
with the slips you've come down
so please do explain
what has so affected your brain
on you I just may set hounds.

well around ~2 of them gotta be town.

Given that Vivax, Cross and Fool are already 3 scum, so only 2 spots left.

Do you think fool ver bc super are all scum, hm?


their play'd be explained
may mind no longer strained
we could lynch 'em
since they are scum
and afterwards swing on their remains.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 12 2013 15:06 GMT
#1676
Okay, I'm going out now, when I come back I'll partake in rolling for hydra maffa, so I might not bother to post anymore. I real lazy.

In that case my final words shall be:

Lynch fool
Lynch vivax


I fully expect to get shot tonight.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 15:09 GMT
#1677
Anyway, I'm going to stop thinking about Foolishness and Vivax entirely for now because it's not helping me.

I had a random thought while smoking. If iamp as town is usually almost like an IC, why has he changed up his style so much this game just to roleplay? Is it worth it?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 12 2013 15:10 GMT
#1678
I don't see marv as scum.

If you want to policy lynch him in LYLO watever... we are in Night 1 - its not relevant

Fact:
marv filter has a good consistency in approach.
I get an overall vibe that he is trying to really piece this game together & making an effort to communicate his point to get the other person to see his thought process. Thats pretty towny. His points also don't feel contrived.
Scum happy to put a piece into the mix, and fuck off. I am not seeing that behaviour here.

Marv is a *Very* valid medic save this night. + He claimed parity cop.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 12 2013 15:11 GMT
#1679
SNB is obvitown.

On March 10 2013 23:31 strongandbig wrote:
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On March 10 2013 14:49 Ver wrote:
Howdy Gents!

I'm going for a little challenge this game and plan on winning the game without reading my role pm. As not even I will know my motivations, nobody else can judge me. Armed with this power I shall stop the town from becoming an idiocracy.

I'm also considering giving myself another Personality to assist my efforts in keeping the town in order. I'll keep you all updated.


Rage

Raaaaaaaaaaaage


This post is green as grass. I had the same reaction as town. It's also impulsive and emotive, which are decent town tells.

On March 11 2013 05:13 strongandbig wrote:
Fixed the quotes

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On March 11 2013 05:09 strongandbig wrote:
On March 11 2013 04:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Agree with risk. SnB which do YOU think it is? What is your reasoning for making the choice you did?


Honestly, I hadn't really thought that much about it besides wanting to point it out as either a good or bad post.

That said, there's really like nothing else in his filter.

At least once Palmar's plan goes bust, he usually jumps into taking the game seriously. Assuming he's gotten past his regular troll phase. SuperSoft hasn't done that. He also only has town reads, and he's clearly been following the thread closely enough to comment on which posts other people have been talking about


On March 10 2013 23:10 supersoft wrote:
On March 10 2013 23:04 Acrofales wrote:
On March 10 2013 14:49 Ver wrote:
Howdy Gents!

I'm going for a little challenge this game and plan on winning the game without reading my role pm. As not even I will know my motivations, nobody else can judge me. Armed with this power I shall stop the town from becoming an idiocracy.

I'm also considering giving myself another Personality to assist my efforts in keeping the town in order. I'll keep you all updated.

Only scum or Drazerk ever tries to pull this stunt.

##vote Ver


read the thread. Risk already quoted "notchezinu" (that was GMarshals smurf, right?)


Ooh ooh and I just saw this:
On March 11 2013 03:44 supersoft wrote:
On March 11 2013 03:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ah man wtf that didn't answer my question at all but I still loved that post X(

WHO IS THIS GUY?!


you shoulnd't ask yourself that question. The proper question is, are his reads reasonable or not.


woo, giving advice and not following it! This is a decent paradigm! But he himself has no reads except town reads and
On March 10 2013 22:30 supersoft wrote:
On March 10 2013 22:26 Mocsta wrote:
On March 10 2013 22:22 supersoft wrote:
are you talking to me?

Yeah, yamato done nothing special and you giving him a town read. Way too eager.


i am not explaining my townreads right now. you explain me why yamato is scum if you think so.


All that said, I still am willing to give him leeway if this bad-plan-thing turns out to be roleplaying, or if his play veers towards the townie in the future.

So the answer to your question, VE, is: Right now I'm leaning scum on him, but I feel better about my oatsmaster case so I'm sticking to that.



Here he gives his read of super, which I agree with and is observant. While I think he's wrong on Oats, I attribute that to me playing in tons of games with Oats and him not.

On March 11 2013 10:58 strongandbig wrote:
Voting Yamato at this point is retarded. I've only read one fucking game from him and I already know he's exactly the type of impulsive little shit who would shoot a modconfirmed townie after role checking him because he was martyring. He hasn't confirmed himself as town but there are a lot of people we should be killing first. Blame for kurumi's death lies cleanly on kurumi.

Bee tee dubs: kurumi, seriously go fuck yourself. Why do you join games like this one and bureaucracy if, when you don't like your role, you are just going to bitch and lie about it until some moron day cigs you? Seriously, talk about playing against your wincon.

Anyway, people should be talking about my oats master case. A response from oats himself would be nice. So far the only things anyone has mentioned about it have been that Marv didn't read it but thinks oats master smells townie and corazon saying he liked it but still voting for someone else.

IAMPERFECTION AND VE I AM CALLING YOU OUT do something useful for a change and comment on my oats case.

After oats, wbg is pretty clearly the next best lynch target. His rambling aside, the resolution to this kurumi thing do not make him look good at all.


Not only is he right here, but as I said with Marv, his being right at the time when it could have been very easy to follow thread sentiment and lynch me is a point in his favor. Plus, he's consistent with his Oats push and wants people to notice it.

On March 12 2013 09:33 strongandbig wrote:
yeah i think bugs is probably jester or VI. who else can we lynch


Unless mafia was sure bugs was third party and didn't want him dead, this post is not in line with a mafia mentality. He wouldn't know for sure and might take his chances. Rather, he takes the townie approach of actually lynching a mafia read.

On March 12 2013 23:52 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 23:19 austinmcc wrote:
marv, let's argue.

It seems like every time you think someone who is well-respected for scumhunting is out to get you, you decide they're scum. I decide you're being an idiot and overreacting. Then palmar flips scum in ... Rock Band? And Foolishness flips scum in Parallel.

So, you've got the track record here. Do you actually think this is a strategy that would be continued? I don't see why, especially as it didn't work well for Foolishness before, he would do the same thing 2 months later.


Based on reading bureaucracy, I think foolishness doesn't put as much careful thought into his scum play as he does his town play. I could easily see him, playing scum by his gut, deciding to go for Marv.

That said, Marv - I wouldn't put quite so much stock in the "foolishness confirmed liar" stuff. It's possible that he got confused between games he coached or obsed and played in. I think that his relatively paltry and careless filter is a much more important piece of evidence.

Also @austin - I will not fall into your "long posts -> town" trap again!


He arrives at the same conclusion about Foolishness with the same logic. While it isn't hard for scum to be right, or to follow a townie's reads, he also makes an effort to argue against Marv in his logically unsound argument that Foolish is mafia for lying, with the comment on his filter.

Now it's your turn. Give me Corazon.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 12 2013 15:16 GMT
#1680
Vivax filter 6 pages. You gonna have to wait for that read until after noon my time, in about three hours.
Writer@WriterYamato
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