EPTOn March 12 2013 04:16 Stutters695 wrote:
So you feel sure that WBG is scum?
So you feel sure that WBG is scum?
Yeah. The manner in which he's returned has me all the way off the fence.
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On March 12 2013 02:56 Stutters695 wrote: Here you pick a swath of folks who are being talked of, and yeah, they're scummy. But that's been mentioned. You were scummy on cross over the rest, but didn't vote. You thought we could get "value" out of bugs, with no explanation of what that means. Bugs I don't know. I've never seen him play like this but his posts are really fucking dense (I'm assuming this is role related) and don't really say much. From my experiences with him (LIX and YANMM) I was expecting a tunneled push on someone and calling anyone who disagreed bad. I assumed he's good enough though that his scumplay wouldn't be this different. If anyone has a suggestion on a couple of his scumgames I'd love to check them. He seems like a good lynch but I'd pick cross over him. Sloosh I've never played with period but his few posts are so safe it's unreal. If he's wrong about Yamato he's fine because it still makes sense to lynch and if he's right he gets huge town cred for nothing. I saw someone said this is what he does so I wouldn't be adverse to a policy lynch or vig shot. I don't think either are as sure as Crossfire but I'd definitely go Sloosh if people can't be convinced of Cross. Bugs I think we can definitely get something if value out of. Now you're asking about my feelings on bugs and taking a stance on yamato. I read your LIX filter. Where are your thoughts? What are your feelings on me for mayor, or having a mayor? Why is your vote on nobody, and where is your head at on bugs? | ||
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On March 12 2013 04:27 wherebugsgo wrote: BC doesn't seem to want to talk about anything that isn't Foolishness/ver/slOosh. Why petition him?oh bloody one, I would like to know who you would like me to maul. | ||
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On March 12 2013 04:28 cDgCorazon wrote: I do not know how many votes, only that I feel compelled to run for office. I must do so.@Austin: How many electoral votes do you need to be elected? If elected, what is your long-term plan for this town? Long-term plan is simple, win the game. I want to lynch WBG today, hopefully get some vig shots into our useless players/lurkers/folks hiding only behind personalities (last one reads "Crossfire"). Mid-term, I don't think we can do anything other than figuring out which currently-useless vets are to be trusted, and which aren't. Depending on their activity and how that goes, that could possibly take us into D3. We have a lot of big names. We have a lot of nothing. I expect there will be some activity and some "game-solving," and discussion will naturally turn towards figuring out what to trust there. Long long-term, I want to have lynched all the scum so I can start speculating wildly about third parties and stupid crap like that. However, I will attempt to hold that in until later. | ||
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On March 12 2013 04:41 Stutters695 wrote: Cross is scum but is not messing with the thread. Bugs is scum and is messing with the thread, and more importantly, the thread is preoccupied with him (and a couple others).That post was a direct response to Marv after I claimed Kenpachi, I just dropped my vote on Cross. I want to know if you think Bugs is a surefire hit and if not why you would vote him over Cross when you say "cross continues to be scum." Your responses will determine what I think of you as a mayor, in general I'm not a fan of mayors because unless they hit scum they're blatant mislynch bait, but you can't really know. I said my thoughts on bugs, I think Crossfire is 100% scum because of that I'd rather wait and see with Bugs but his play definitely isn't up to what I expect from him. I would back a Bugs lynch if I can't convince town of a crossfire lynch,since his return I really haven't seen the town traits I've seen from his previous games. I would rather lynch the distraction today. Crossfire can be vigged or something hopefully. But between the two, the thread is going to be better and more productive for town if we get rid of bugs now and don't have him around overnight. There is a LOT going on, and I'd rather take care of the scum that is tying up a lot of town's thoughts. | ||
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Do you use your check on yamato tonight? (note: I don't put anybody on a police force. This is hypothetical, just less dumb than my normal hypotheticals) | ||
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On March 12 2013 04:59 Vivax wrote: Ymmv, but Yamato looked super scummy in LIX to me. Don't remeber if it was for being inconsistent and jumping, but I remember being convinced he was scum and that being one of the things I was horribly wrong with, because there was something he did that made him town.Can't remember yamato being inconsistent and jumpy in LIX he basically tunneled me throughout the game. | ||
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On March 12 2013 05:05 cDgCorazon wrote: Thank you. I would like to expand on this: What executive powers do you have that will benefit the town? Are you aware of the powers the office of the mayor holds? I'm considering making you mayor, I just want to know what you are going to be able to do for me. Not aware. I know that I am compelled to run. | ||
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On March 12 2013 05:12 Vivax wrote: I am happy that you are not full-on trolling. But you're not reading the thread if you think bugs is just a "policy lynch." We don't talk about townreads we talk about lynching deadline is closing in and the europeans among us won't be there. If you want to lynch me marv make your case I would love to see it, "Vivax is scum cause of a slight townread on player when asked and doesn't want to talk about it and bsbsbsbs". Bad marv = scummarv. Anyway I want to lynch yamato and if he flips red we will have a nice bunch of other people to lynch. Other than yamato Corazon posted some weird stuff and the rest is in my filter. Bugs as policy lynch if he doesn't change his play and cause I hate Chezinu. Others I'm not sure on. ##Vote yamato77 | ||
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He is shot and dies. He is not shot. I'm currently expecting the second, and this seems like bugs jumping back into the thread to spread more nonsense. I had entirely forgotten about prplhz, I guess everyone had, but a pretend shot makes for a lovely distraction from everything else. | ||
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On March 12 2013 05:31 supersoft wrote: if this shot was real and prplhz is town, you have to die. You have to. Oh my god. if ANYTHING other than a real shot on a scum prplhz, he's got to die. If the shot is fake, then bugs is just wasting the thread's time. | ||
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See previous stuff on bugs coming back to the thread? If it's a fake shot, this is just more of him wasting our time, like he was doing to anyone who responded to his iamperfection stuff. | ||
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On March 12 2013 06:55 Vivax wrote: Just so I can get this straight.Oh are we finding scum by looking at contribution/post ratio lately? I think Bugs contributed by faking that shot on prplhz and showing us his lurky nature so that's something. Ver didn't even read his role PM or post after saying that so yeah  Bugs contributed to the game by faking the shot on prplhz? On March 12 2013 05:06 marvellosity wrote: I'd love to lynch bugs but I'm not convinced how wise it is. Vivax has just shot way up in my lynch-dar, along with Crossfire for the reasons I'm attacking Vivax over. prplhz, seemingly someone only I've mentioned at all, has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. He could well be a good lynch. Corazon maybe I could give another day to see if he un-retards himself. He's at least moderately active. On March 12 2013 05:09 wherebugsgo wrote: the dog forgot that the discolored one was playing in this game. the dog can confidently say that the dog is not a rat, however. The dog is less sure that the imperfect one is anything but a chicken. Perhaps the discolored one should be stamped out instead. ##unvote ##vote prplhz On March 12 2013 05:10 wherebugsgo wrote: ##shoot prplhz If you are trying to say bugs contributed by bringing prplhz back to thread's attention, then you are incorrect. See timestamps. He did fake a shot, but he wasn't the one who brought prplhz up. So...I'm not liking your comments on bugs here. Sort of a bad sideways defense. Me no likey. | ||
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On March 12 2013 07:48 Vivax wrote: Reading is good. I'll save you the trouble of checking my filter. I think he's scum. Nah it's not a defence just my opinion to why he contributed more than others, never opposed his lynch just gave it another priority. Why don't you like the "defence" you think he's scum or town? I don't like your "defence" because defense is spelled with an s. Your "another priority" was giving a reason why bugs shouldn't be the lynch. You may not be saying "he's super townie," but he's on the chopping block and you're giving a reason for him not to be there. But the reason itself is bad, imo, because it LOOKS like you think he contributed something he didn't. Let alone that who contributed what =/= scumminess, and using that as your sole metric to make reads is an awful idea. But the fact that you didn't like him as a lynch previously because he'd "contributed," when in fact he wasn't the one to bring prplhz up, and all he did with prplhz was fake a shot...I fail to see how trolling is contributing. | ||
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I am not mayor. Boo. Vivax and marv are shitting up the thread. Boo. Vivax, you looked bad yesterday, but in a way that made me feel townie on you. I'm used to seeing you take crap on D1 as town, and it reminded me of games where that's happened. But all this crap with you and foolishness and marv is ridiculous. I'm going to throw away the bit where you didn't read posts, apparently, but made reads anyway. The part where you did not read posts, from a guy who doesn't have a lot of posts, but made reads anyway. One more time. The part of your read on Foolishness, the guy who hasn't been tremendously active, where you based your read on what you thought his posts might have said, but who cares because you don't need to read them. Instead, what is this? On March 12 2013 22:52 Vivax wrote: Within the last 5-10 pages, you (see above) based your read on Foolishness off what you thought his posts might have said. And now you're doing the same friggin thing. "I think Foolishness's initial post was this" when Foolishness saidWell I think Foolish' initial post was a way of fishing for reactions since I'm subject to mislynches and scum pushing me and townies failing to read me, he had basically given zero reasoning for doing what he did and it lured two suspicious sheeps: VE and Oats quickly. On March 12 2013 16:13 Foolishness wrote: I was gone and made an accusation based on what I skimmed through the thread at the time. Then when I came back to push the case further I realized I was wrong when I analyzed him. Which should be obvious given that I gave the proof. Foolishness - "I skimmed the thread and made an accusation that I realized was wrong when I went back and looked." Vivax - "I think Foolishness was trying to fish for reactions and he caught these two people." You always look scummy, but this is just straight out making stuff up and not listening to reason when you're clearly wrong. I remember you playing/looking scummy as town, but not outright just doing stuff like this. Stuck believing that this is real scumminess from you, and not the way you look as town. On March 12 2013 22:57 Vivax wrote: It's pretty scummy you are willing to risk one of the strongest town players to get NKd without even knowing what yamato's or my alignment is (and thus the validity of Foolishness' reads). This is crap. In Bureaucracy, Foolishness was afk for a while, got crap for not making any cases or doing anything, came back and made a big case on Bill Murray, and throughout his time alive added some minor suspicions on BH and Palmar. BH and Palmar were both mafia, BM wasn't. Also, Foolishness was mafia. Basically, out of his mafia reads, 2/3 were right, and he was the head of the whole mafia. His alignment should absolutely not be predicated on whether his reads are good or not. | ||
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It seems like every time you think someone who is well-respected for scumhunting is out to get you, you decide they're scum. I decide you're being an idiot and overreacting. Then palmar flips scum in ... Rock Band? And Foolishness flips scum in Parallel. So, you've got the track record here. Do you actually think this is a strategy that would be continued? I don't see why, especially as it didn't work well for Foolishness before, he would do the same thing 2 months later. | ||
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On March 12 2013 23:22 marvellosity wrote: I don't really have a reason. Best I can chalk it up to is the same thing as with Vivax, a hastily made accusation, but that doesn't do anything because then Foolishness's participation in this game amounts to two accusations that were crappy. One he takes back, one is shown to rest on nonsense.he did it twice. He did it in Bureaucracy, and he did it in Parallels. Now he's doing it here with a lie thrown in for good measure. What else can I say? That he's town and calling me mafia based on a total lie? For what reason? But I don't see a reason behind the other side. If he's mafia, why call you mafia based on a lie? Why do the same thing he's done, and something that you commented on in Parallel. You have not been lynched in either game based on his accusations. I can understand someone being less wordy, more one-linery, whatever when mafia as opposed to town, but someone calling out the same player every game he's mafia being a tell? That's ridiculous. The only thing that even remotely makes sense to me is that you're both mafia and this is easy cover. Foolishness calls you out like he normal does when he's mafia and you're town. He gets lynched or vigged or something. You now point to your past games, he always does that when he's mafia and I'm town. Scum Foolishness knowing he can't stay alive forever, chooses to get oddly bussed for you. That's STILL ridiculous. But it's the only thing even remotely sensible that I can find. Which then means that something is wrong, because you/Foolish/Vivax can't be doing whatever you're doing and ALL be mafia. | ||
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On March 12 2013 23:25 Oatsmaster wrote: I don't know wtf makes him town.So foolishness is town cause once bitten, twice shy. Nothing else makes him town? I don't like his play here, but I've only ever played with him when he was scum. I thought his suspicion on marv in Parallel was odd, but not scummy, and he turned out to be scum. In bureaucracy he didn't do oodles, but 2/3 of his primary reads were correct, when I skim that game back over, and he turned out to be scum. So...things I would normally take as townie ended with him being scum. I think I'm just influenced by the fact I've only played games with him where he's scum. But something ain't right with this Foolishness/marv/vivax bit. Or, maybe better put, something is scummy and something else is just dumb here. Unlikely to all be an elaborate show, unlikely to all be silliness. | ||
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