EPTWith this, he's up for lynch.
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Hiro thoughts on Corazon?
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With this, he's up for lynch. @ Hiro Hiro thoughts on Corazon? | ||
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On March 11 2013 09:14 VisceraEyes wrote: You'll get that from BC regardless of his alignment, but yeah I don't want to lynch him either. I kinda want to lynch Intact. He's been "reading" for quite a while - that's the kind of post I'd expect from scum trying to appear like they're doing something. PEdit: I think Yamato is MZ - he seemed to think he would "clear up" the Kurumi situation, and he doesn't strike me as a player who would think a mod message would clear shit up. Way to say you don't want to lynch him despite it looking obvious it was him. When you say he doesn't strike you as a player like that you subtly say that he would do that as town right, do you think he's town? | ||
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On March 11 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote: The reveal and shot were my role I will not apologize for giving a martyr his death. Well that's cool. I suppose you had to shoot day1 cause of your role but your choice of target is telling. ##Vote yamato77 Anyone opposing a yamato lynch? | ||
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On March 11 2013 09:25 HiroPro wrote: yamato is probably not ballsy enough to shoot a confirmed town as mafia. even if he is compulsive, it would have been much easier to simply pick someone who is trolling. I didn't get the chance to taste such a delicious wifom in a long time in defence of a guy who just shot a crazy strong role after something announced him being town (despite being of unknown origin, it should be enough to not let you shoot him if you're town). | ||
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On March 11 2013 09:27 VisceraEyes wrote: You're misunderstanding me. He wouldn't claim "I can clear this shit up" and just post a mod-message regardless of his alignment. He's well-known enough as a good player that if he tried that, he would be instantly called out. As it turns out, I was mistaken and he did, in fact, put up the announcement too. The jury is still out on Yamato - although I will say that he took advantage of an opportunity to "confirm" his role by killing a townie. That makes him look worse to me...much worse indeed. He didn't even think he was scum - the only time he even says he thinks he's scum is when he says "Watch this, pro GF snipe here". Well good I'll take this as you willing to lynch him. Honestly I don't understand what you're waiting for are you expecting him to argue his way out of this? He looks worse cause of this and on this he should be judged, not on what happens later that might change your opinion cause there's something else catching your attention  .So yeah, we should be lynching yamato today as general consensus the scumhunt still continues although in that case the other scum will know that they won't be lynched today, but that might reveal them later on actually. | ||
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You don't need me to write a defence to every point to see what's already there for you, just compare it with my filter and check for yourselves please. I'll mention a few things nonetheless: 1. Cora is scummy, I have said so and pushed him and opinions on him by asking many questions. → VE lied. + Show Spoiler + On March 11 2013 07:46 Vivax wrote: Well those are also my questions cause the way he handled S & B's post doesn't make much sense, he dodged my question now he seems to be dodging yours which is essentially the same. He kinda looks to me like noob scum, says things that look acceptable without showing real interest behind what he's saying. He doesn't pursue his own case while saying S & B's is very good but doesn't push for an Oats lynch either. 2.Yamato's actions in shooting Kurumi are scummy. Opinions may differ but it's enough for me to lynch him he took the risk of shooting a possibly mod-confirmed townie where it should have at least gave him a benefit of the doubt to not get vigged. 3.I've mentioned one of the points I've found scummy about VE's post, so I did reply to VE (with link) although it's not the only reason: you say yamato wants to pressure lurkers just to look like contributing and I did the same but you didn't attack me for it So basically I don't know what makes me so scummy my stances are clear I don't comment on meaningless stuff and I tried to get people to post/post in a way that is understandable for town (although stopped after Prom cause I can follow him regardless and got my attention caught by Cora). That said I think it's a really bad idea to want to keep yamato alive after that stunt. Don't know if Foolishness is town yet but if he genuinely thinks I'm scum then he must not be as good as people think  , he played with me as scum so he should know better. | ||
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, I'll take a look at Bugs later when I'm back but one argument that comes to my mind spontaneously is that he kept pushing Kurumi after the announcement came so it looks strange to me that he would keep pushing him as scum knowing the announcement was right when the mod says otherwise to the whole thread, so that kinda put him on the town side of things.Otherwise, if you are scum yamato then your teammates knew that the announcement was right and I'm looking at people saying Kurumi was modconfirmed without doubting the announcement, marv especially. But that's for a lot later, I'll look at your future play now. | ||
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(You know with quotes, "he's scum cause bsbsbsbs, and we should bsbsbsbs" sorry iamp I stole this from you cause it's awesome )Your 180° switch on Cora marv pointed out is strange and it was a reaction to you being contradicted in multiple points, rather looks like you try to stay lined up with the things marv says rather than believing them yourself. Also you baaaaah and uuuuugh a lot when you're scum but this is an experimental heuristic. As to Corazon he showed up to attack marv saying he was shitting up the thread and didn't push neither Oats nor yamato, he didn't show up when I proposed the yamato lynch in a very obvious way either which should be his main priority so to me it looks like he's not serious about his reads and only comes out when he feels threatened. | ||
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Doesn't look to me like suspicious townie rather like scum that doesn't mind switching his target to a guy that's basically grushlike as town and unknown as mafia since he was scared of pushing a guy who has been announced as town. | ||
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On March 12 2013 01:23 HiroPro wrote: Are youa moron vivax? No I just think your play might be scum motivated so I'm inquiring. You only comment on few people and stutters has been one of my favourite choices to push early as scum in earlier games cause you don't have to do much. He doesn't reply quickly and has few posts without being very confrontative so it's a comfortable target to push as scum. Also no one sees much of a reason to defend him cause people don't know if he's town or not based on so little. But anyway just go on with it if you think it's the best course of action. | ||
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On the other hand his reaction just now looks strangely defensive I'm not used to that, I mostly got OMGUSED by him for attacking him when he was town so I'll FoS stutters so I don't have to go vote in the thread | ||
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2. Yet you didn't care that yamato shot your fresh confirmed townread and immediately jumped in to defend him. 3. Your next target was a general hard-to-read-low-activity guy who on top of that just now claimed that he was roleplaying. | ||
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On March 12 2013 02:07 Dandel Ion wrote: Oh, and Marvello is town. I'll let that simmer through. Well it's useless for us if you tell us just makes scum more scared to attack him if that's the case and he's not under pressure anyway. If you think someone is town you don't push him so it seems most of the thread currently shares your opinion another reason to keep it to yourself. Why do people post these things  | ||
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On March 12 2013 02:15 yamato77 wrote: What is your read on anything? This "sit back and watch" approach of yours is highly suspicious. Town super isn't a weak little snipey shit, but scum super is. I agree with this | ||
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As to marv's question why yamato claimed: Me and someone else said it was probably him after the shot cause he repeatedly announced that he would take steps against Kurumi and (I think that's how his role works cause an invisible dayvig is OP and I've only seen that in LVIII where it was so strong I had a super fun time shooting you bitches out of nowhere, good times) well, it looks to me like he doesn't mention that part of his role cause it's convenient for him since people like you argue he can't be mafia cause of that. Any other explanation for claiming dayvig on his own is stupid, especially the way he did, cause even after the announcement where he should've known Kurumi was town, he posted in a dickish way. And the contradiction slOosh mentioned is pretty damning looks to me like yamato is throwing reads around without really believing what he says in that case. | ||
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On March 11 2013 02:51 yamato77 wrote: Iamp let's lynch VE On March 11 2013 03:00 yamato77 wrote: VE not reading, just lurking. Speak and he shall appear. On March 11 2013 06:59 yamato77 wrote: i'm at work you asshat it's in my filter What I will do is solve this Kurumi problem right now. Hey Iamp let's lynch VE. Oh Kurumi is roleplaying in a roleplaying game better shoot him over my scumread. Yeah makes sense. | ||
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I have to be honest I don't have strong scumreads yet aside from him and keep searching for other options but yamato is a guy who I don't want around with all these doubts about him and some weird defences that don't seem to make sense. No stupid things, we go the safe way and lynch the guy who killed town D1 without any remorse. He should be lynched today | ||
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