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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 00:11 GMT
#602
It was probably yamato who had to announce his shot in some way on the target.

With this, he's up for lynch.

@ Hiro

Hiro thoughts on Corazon?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 00:20 GMT
#609
On March 11 2013 09:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
You'll get that from BC regardless of his alignment, but yeah I don't want to lynch him either.

I kinda want to lynch Intact. He's been "reading" for quite a while - that's the kind of post I'd expect from scum trying to appear like they're doing something.

PEdit: I think Yamato is MZ - he seemed to think he would "clear up" the Kurumi situation, and he doesn't strike me as a player who would think a mod message would clear shit up.


Way to say you don't want to lynch him despite it looking obvious it was him.
When you say he doesn't strike you as a player like that you subtly say that he would do that as town right, do you think he's town?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 00:22 GMT
#612
On March 11 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:
The reveal and shot were my role

I will not apologize for giving a martyr his death.


Well that's cool. I suppose you had to shoot day1 cause of your role but your choice of target is telling.


##Vote yamato77


Anyone opposing a yamato lynch?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 00:29 GMT
#622
On March 11 2013 09:25 HiroPro wrote:
yamato is probably not ballsy enough to shoot a confirmed town as mafia. even if he is compulsive, it would have been much easier to simply pick someone who is trolling.


I didn't get the chance to taste such a delicious wifom in a long time in defence of a guy who just shot a crazy strong role after something announced him being town (despite being of unknown origin, it should be enough to not let you shoot him if you're town).
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 00:34 GMT
#626
On March 11 2013 09:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 09:20 Vivax wrote:
On March 11 2013 09:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
You'll get that from BC regardless of his alignment, but yeah I don't want to lynch him either.

I kinda want to lynch Intact. He's been "reading" for quite a while - that's the kind of post I'd expect from scum trying to appear like they're doing something.

PEdit: I think Yamato is MZ - he seemed to think he would "clear up" the Kurumi situation, and he doesn't strike me as a player who would think a mod message would clear shit up.


Way to say you don't want to lynch him despite it looking obvious it was him.
When you say he doesn't strike you as a player like that you subtly say that he would do that as town right, do you think he's town?


You're misunderstanding me. He wouldn't claim "I can clear this shit up" and just post a mod-message regardless of his alignment. He's well-known enough as a good player that if he tried that, he would be instantly called out.

As it turns out, I was mistaken and he did, in fact, put up the announcement too.

The jury is still out on Yamato - although I will say that he took advantage of an opportunity to "confirm" his role by killing a townie. That makes him look worse to me...much worse indeed. He didn't even think he was scum - the only time he even says he thinks he's scum is when he says "Watch this, pro GF snipe here".


Well good I'll take this as you willing to lynch him. Honestly I don't understand what you're waiting for are you expecting him to argue his way out of this? He looks worse cause of this and on this he should be judged, not on what happens later that might change your opinion cause there's something else catching your attention .

So yeah, we should be lynching yamato today as general consensus the scumhunt still continues although in that case the other scum will know that they won't be lynched today, but that might reveal them later on actually.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 07:55 GMT
#767
Many of VE's points are wrong so I suggest you do your own research before believing them or at least force him to prove his points with actual quotes.
You don't need me to write a defence to every point to see what's already there for you, just compare it with my filter and check for yourselves please.

I'll mention a few things nonetheless:

1. Cora is scummy, I have said so and pushed him and opinions on him by asking many questions. → VE lied.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 11 2013 07:46 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 07:42 marvellosity wrote:
On March 11 2013 07:37 Vivax wrote:
On March 11 2013 07:35 marvellosity wrote:
just looks and feels like town oats so far, s&b


Have you forgotten that we are roleplaying ?

Marv what do you make of Corazon please.


I want corazon to answer my questions.


Well those are also my questions cause the way he handled S & B's post doesn't make much sense, he dodged my question now he seems to be dodging yours which is essentially the same.

He kinda looks to me like noob scum, says things that look acceptable without showing real interest behind what he's saying. He doesn't pursue his own case while saying S & B's is very good but doesn't push for an Oats lynch either.


2.Yamato's actions in shooting Kurumi are scummy. Opinions may differ but it's enough for me to lynch him he took the risk of shooting a possibly mod-confirmed townie where it should have at least gave him a benefit of the doubt to not get vigged.

3.I've mentioned one of the points I've found scummy about VE's post, so I did reply to VE (with link) although it's not the only reason:

you say yamato wants to pressure lurkers just to look like contributing and I did the same but you didn't attack me for it


So basically I don't know what makes me so scummy my stances are clear I don't comment on meaningless stuff and I tried to get people to post/post in a way that is understandable for town (although stopped after Prom cause I can follow him regardless and got my attention caught by Cora).

That said I think it's a really bad idea to want to keep yamato alive after that stunt.
Don't know if Foolishness is town yet but if he genuinely thinks I'm scum then he must not be as good as people think , he played with me as scum so he should know better.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 07:59 GMT
#768
Well ninjad, that makes the argument about yamato not enough given the revelation of his role mechanics.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 08:14 GMT
#772
Well I'm wary of agreeing with VE given the dishonest way he's posting arguments for my lynch , I'll take a look at Bugs later when I'm back but one argument that comes to my mind spontaneously is that he kept pushing Kurumi after the announcement came so it looks strange to me that he would keep pushing him as scum knowing the announcement was right when the mod says otherwise to the whole thread, so that kinda put him on the town side of things.

Otherwise, if you are scum yamato then your teammates knew that the announcement was right and I'm looking at people saying Kurumi was modconfirmed without doubting the announcement, marv especially. But that's for a lot later, I'll look at your future play now.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 16:10 GMT
#880
VE you complain to marv that he didn't read your case on me yet you have failed to comment on the counterpoints I brought against it, so bring me your updated case where you actually show what you say by quoting it for now it's all just a bunch of lies and misrepresentations you are not willing to correct when pointed out in proper way by me
(You know with quotes, "he's scum cause bsbsbsbs, and we should bsbsbsbs" sorry iamp I stole this from you cause it's awesome )

Your 180° switch on Cora marv pointed out is strange and it was a reaction to you being contradicted in multiple points, rather looks like you try to stay lined up with the things marv says rather than believing them yourself. Also you baaaaah and uuuuugh a lot when you're scum but this is an experimental heuristic.

As to Corazon he showed up to attack marv saying he was shitting up the thread and didn't push neither Oats nor yamato, he didn't show up when I proposed the yamato lynch in a very obvious way either which should be his main priority so to me it looks like he's not serious about his reads and only comes out when he feels threatened.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 16:18 GMT
#884
Marv what do you make of Hiro? I don't see anything making me think he's town yet instead he seems to be sure that yamato's announcement meant Kurumi was confirmed town, wouldn't he doubt it at first since he's been pushing him as scumread just before?

Doesn't look to me like suspicious townie rather like scum that doesn't mind switching his target to a guy that's basically grushlike as town and unknown as mafia since he was scared of pushing a guy who has been announced as town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 16:28 GMT
#895
On March 12 2013 01:23 HiroPro wrote:
Are youa moron vivax?


No I just think your play might be scum motivated so I'm inquiring. You only comment on few people and stutters has been one of my favourite choices to push early as scum in earlier games cause you don't have to do much.

He doesn't reply quickly and has few posts without being very confrontative so it's a comfortable target to push as scum. Also no one sees much of a reason to defend him cause people don't know if he's town or not based on so little.

But anyway just go on with it if you think it's the best course of action.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 16:40 GMT
#912
Well marv regarding that post I checked the game it was the 15th, D1 was during the 13th, it was like the 10th post, so you have an idea of stutters' general posting activity he said himself he hates Day1s and hardly posts.

On the other hand his reaction just now looks strangely defensive I'm not used to that, I mostly got OMGUSED by him for attacking him when he was town so I'll FoS stutters so I don't have to go vote in the thread
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 16:43 GMT
#918
Also Hiro before you jump up screaming bullshit this reaction looks like an actual reason to be suspicious of him, I would like if you mentioned other people you are suspicious of though cause as of now you seem to be on a mono-scumhunt, one at a time, + you seem to be dead set on defending yamato and his Kurumi dayshot.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 16:46 GMT
#922
1. You immediately believed the announcement that Kurumi was town after pushing him.
2. Yet you didn't care that yamato shot your fresh confirmed townread and immediately jumped in to defend him.
3. Your next target was a general hard-to-read-low-activity guy who on top of that just now claimed that he was roleplaying.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 16:51 GMT
#929
Cool stutters, so I guess you have an idea on who you want to lynch?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 17:10 GMT
#951
On March 12 2013 02:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
Oh, and Marvello is town.

I'll let that simmer through.


Well it's useless for us if you tell us just makes scum more scared to attack him if that's the case and he's not under pressure anyway. If you think someone is town you don't push him so it seems most of the thread currently shares your opinion another reason to keep it to yourself. Why do people post these things
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 17:17 GMT
#956
On March 12 2013 02:15 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 02:12 supersoft wrote:
please stop the rhyming. Noone does it on that forum, therefor no roleplay justifies it.

What is your read on anything?

This "sit back and watch" approach of yours is highly suspicious. Town super isn't a weak little snipey shit, but scum super is.


I agree with this
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 19:19 GMT
#1034
SlOosh has my full support in the yamato matter I actually can't get rid of the feeling the guy is mafia and if he was interested in making Kurumi readable: I was pushing that matter and made him post normally before he was shot, yamato didn't help at all trying to do that he preferred to pull the trigger on a guy who seemed to be under heavy suspicion at the time.

As to marv's question why yamato claimed: Me and someone else said it was probably him after the shot cause he repeatedly announced that he would take steps against Kurumi and (I think that's how his role works cause an invisible dayvig is OP and I've only seen that in LVIII where it was so strong I had a super fun time shooting you bitches out of nowhere, good times) well, it looks to me like he doesn't mention that part of his role cause it's convenient for him since people like you argue he can't be mafia cause of that.

Any other explanation for claiming dayvig on his own is stupid, especially the way he did, cause even after the announcement where he should've known Kurumi was town, he posted in a dickish way.

And the contradiction slOosh mentioned is pretty damning looks to me like yamato is throwing reads around without really believing what he says in that case.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 19:24 GMT
#1040
On March 11 2013 02:51 yamato77 wrote:
Iamp let's lynch VE


On March 11 2013 03:00 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 02:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
LOL this game. Vivax maybe you can explain what about that post you didn't like? Maybe explain why it's scummy and why you want to lynch me? Yamato is just butthurt that I found him so fast, but what's your excuse?

VE not reading, just lurking.

Speak and he shall appear.


On March 11 2013 06:59 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 05:59 cDgCorazon wrote:
Hmmm...guess who has decided to lurk now that other targets are being hunted? Yamato and Acro...

##Vote: Yamato

Gonna start scumhunting?

i'm at work you asshat

it's in my filter

What I will do is solve this Kurumi problem right now.


Hey Iamp let's lynch VE.

Oh Kurumi is roleplaying in a roleplaying game better shoot him over my scumread. Yeah makes sense.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
March 11 2013 19:39 GMT
#1060
I actually do believe that the mod-confirmation came from yamato himself as part of the role, the problem is simply the timing, the choice of targets and the process before. If he was town he would have poked more or pushed people instead he chose a dude roleplaying a troll in a crossfire of accusations who asked to be lynched. A perfect target for scum with a role that could probably only shoot day 1 (that's my assumption).

I have to be honest I don't have strong scumreads yet aside from him and keep searching for other options but yamato is a guy who I don't want around with all these doubts about him and some weird defences that don't seem to make sense.

No stupid things, we go the safe way and lynch the guy who killed town D1 without any remorse.

He should be lynched today
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