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On March 10 2013 07:17 geript wrote: Good target... Possible scum... Ironic... How'd you know that I like to type while taking a dump too? that's not irony. And I saw your last game so I know how much you like to write while taking dumps  | ||
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If you can't even admit that you replaced an extremely scummy lurker who was a definite lynch candidate, then we have a problem. However there isn't really any proof that he was scum so it comes down to how you act and what you bring to the table. If mafia is afraid of a new perspective then you might be a lynch candidate. How that is ironic I'm not really sure. @Bduddy the only person who you could say defended Arctic was Luneth. The other lurkers didn't really give their thoughts and Taco safely switched by sheeping. | ||
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On March 10 2013 07:37 MeatlessTaco wrote: Luneth was the first person to vote for AD. Page 16. also the only person who kept his vote on NW without giving a good reason despite the recent events and refused to vote for Arctic. Him voting for a lurker early on and switching off him doesn't scream confidence that he believed Arctic was one of his scum reads. In fact I believe... yep here it is On March 08 2013 14:51 MLuneth wrote: My view on Arctic Daishi at the time of Voting for him + Show Spoiler + To put it simply my Vote was a pressure vote to try and get Arctic to speak up (I'm saying this now because I believe that Arctic Daishi will stay afk). My vote on Diashi was a coin flip between Daishi/BDuddy/ChewOnStu because none had made posts at this point. Literally two comments later from Luneth he's back tracking on his vote from Arctic. and @Raven if you honestly think I protected him, prove it. Pushing for my own scum read while saying "yes Arctic also looks scummy, I'll lynch him if it's necessary to keep NW in the game" isn't defending him. If you read it as anything else you are fooling yourself. | ||
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On March 10 2013 08:18 WaveofShadow wrote: Wait, what? So is the cycle deadline now at 7:30 PM daily instead of 8:00? If so I feel like the OP should reflect that. just for this night cycle I believe. theres a post 1-2 pages back where they talk about it. | ||
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On March 10 2013 08:20 Frorgon wrote: I think it's a scum tactic for Luneth to vote AD early on when the vote could easily be changed later, especially his explanation for it. The explanation of it being just a pressure vote almost seems like a hidden way to discourage others from voting for Arctic. It's basically saying "my vote's not serious, and I have no good reasoning behind it." Then again, at the time of Luneth's vote, AD was still mostly under the radar. Luneth does say near the end of D1 that his vote on Arctic was never meant as an attempt to lynch him as well. He also never directly says that Arctic looks scummy while discussing the subject. On March 09 2013 07:48 MLuneth wrote: My vote in NW stays the same because there has still been no coherent defence to tell me why NW is not scum. I agree that other players are looking very suspicious too but I'm more confident that NW is scum than they are Now that we know Arctic's alignment it looks more like Luneth was trying to save him without making it look too obvious. If we consider how quickly he leaves after nobody budges from Arctic it looks pretty bad. On March 09 2013 08:06 MLuneth wrote: I am rereading cases now. Going to be wishy washy either way, but I'd rather be correct nothing more about Arctic vs NW after this. | ||
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First off, Excellent job so far town. Raven and WoS made an excellent call and took down Arctic which I believe gives us several other town reads. These include Krafla, Frorgon, and NobodyWonder. Why these three? They are the only people Arctic voted for. I don't believe he was playing with the mind set of trying to direct suspicion away from his scum buddies as he didn't even realize he was the one being voted on till we had the majority on him. + Show Spoiler + On March 08 2013 23:53 Arctic Daishi wrote: Sorry for the late replies everyone, I have been studying like crazy for midterms. Spring break starts today so I'll have a lot more freetime to participate now! ##vote: Krafla On March 09 2013 00:17 Arctic Daishi wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: nobodywonder On March 09 2013 06:07 Arctic Daishi wrote: I honestly do not believe that nobodywonder is scummy, he seems to honestly want what's best for the town. Also, he has been very defeatist since being accused and has stated his intention of welcoming his lynching if it helps the town. I hereby: #unvote #Vote: Frorgon The Omni's case against Frorgon is simply too great to ignore. On March 09 2013 09:13 Arctic Daishi wrote: #unvote #Vote: nobodywonder Although its not generally great to give town reads at night, I don't see the issue with discussing these in general. Moving on, I believe that Taco bussed Arctic after he realized there was no way to save him. The actions Taco has made this game serve no purpose for town, even HE has admitted to that. My case against him is here. + Show Spoiler + On March 09 2013 06:20 OmniEulogy wrote: Hmm not sure what else to say about Taco... well actually I'll go the other way, I think I've covered pretty much everything he's done that seems to go against town, but he was right when he said you have to suspect everybody in one of his first posts. I felt that this was a good post, generally people who have decent activity before a game starts and then disappear as soon as it starts deserve to be looked at more closely. At the same time going back to odd actions from him we also have things like this He didn't actually make a case... did he forget? It was a joke vote that stuck and other people attacked NW. There was no case from Taco. Isn't that the exact job town is trying to do? Again from somebody who hasn't actually made a single case all game this seems really REALLY bad... looking through his filter and doing this again... I'm actually going to move Taco to my scum list. ##Unvote ##Vote: MeatlessTaco I believe this case is Much stronger than my case on Frorgon and am changing my vote for that reason. What does everybody else make of this case on Taco? In fact... I am going to push for Taco's Lynch, I expect anybody who wants to hit scum to jump on this train, The Wagon of Justice has arrived. + Show Spoiler + On March 09 2013 04:49 OmniEulogy wrote: I'm also quite worried about Taco. His actions so far are a mixture of scum/town so I can't get a good read on him. We have his opening joke vote, which alone I have no problem with However we do end up sticking on NW through pressure of other people so he never actually has to vote. He uses this as an excuse to pressure others to place votes on people when he himself never actually made a serious vote. Keep in mind how early in the game these posts are. I feel that Krafla here was trying to apply pressure the Arctic who had yet said anything at all but Taco tries to pressure him to vote for somebody who hasn't said a single word so far? that's sketchy so early on in the game. Makes it seem like he doesn't care who is voting for who. Again goes after Krafla early on, Why is Taco so obsessed with getting people to vote? The game isn't even through the first 24 hours. Town doesn't need to throw votes out so quickly, they need to think about their actions as Krafla is doing. This raises more questions about how much Taco actually cares who gets lynched. And then we have these back-to-back posts. Holy Shit Hypocrisy. His FIRST real vote is a complete sheep with nothing to add about why Chew is scum. Does he really care who gets lynched? This doesn't take away from the good points he's made and some of his questions have been really good... but the inconsistency is there. ^ My original look through his filter. Moving on from this I also believe Luneth is looking VERY likely to be our 3rd mafia player. He started out the game rather enthusiastic but has very quickly made some questionable moves. His refusal to vote on Arctic at the end of D1 must be explained by him during D2. Geript is a bit of a wild card at the moment. He has come in to replace Chew and should be under just as much suspicion as we had on Chew. Chew was an extremely scummy lurker who's vote was unexplained. If Geript doesn't prove himself to be town I hope you all will not let him go under the radar. | ||
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On March 10 2013 09:15 geript wrote: @OE you have made 2 bad cases, why should we listen to you? my case on Frorgon was using the information available at the time, in other words almost none. Care to explain why you think Taco's case is bad? | ||
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so happy with this town :D | ||
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On March 10 2013 09:22 Krafla wrote: I was roleblocked well that's unfortunate  anybody else get RB'd? | ||
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I doubt mafia just decided not to kill. Use your brain. | ||
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On March 10 2013 09:29 Frorgon wrote: I'm surprised Krafla was roleblocked. I don't feel like he was suspicious enough to be roleblocked by town. So either the mafia took a shot in the dark and got lucky, or he's lying. I'm wondering if WoS is the one who RB'd him and it stopped the NK rofl. Otherwise @WoS stop leaving us in the dark!  | ||
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On March 10 2013 09:34 Krafla wrote: Aahh, be quick, it's way past my bedtime! it's only what.. 2:30am there? it's unfortunate if you are telling the truth and got RB'd knowing Luneth's alignment on top of no NK would have been really nice. | ||
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On March 10 2013 09:36 WaveofShadow wrote: Damn. I think it's too much WIFOM to know for sure. I was roleblocked as well. Simple case scenario is JK saved me from a night shot and mafia RB chose Krafla at random. There are a LOT of other possible scenarios though, none of which I like very much. that sounds about right as far as the JK goes. You would have been my choice for tonight as well so I'm happy somebody is on the same page. On the other hand, if town role blocker hit WoS (if we even have one), tell us now. It's unlikely but its better to have the bases covered. | ||
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I also agree with Taco somewhat. Krafla probably should have kept quiet, again if town RB hit Krafla I'd like to discuss it being worth while for him to say it. If nobody comes forward Krafla is either lying about everything or is town. @Krafla did you leave any bread crumbs to prove that you are 1 shot cop or that you were targetting Luneth tonight? | ||
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On March 10 2013 09:46 geript wrote: That's a bad idea and super scummy. If we have one, why try to get them to claim for no reason? Proves WoS is scum. Are you that stupid? | ||
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On March 10 2013 09:53 geript wrote: No as I said, it proves nothing. If WoS was JK blocked then he could've been either the attacker or the target. A claim proves nothing but the RB happened. If the JK blocked Krafla the we still no nothing as WoS could be lying OR he could be town RB'd by scum. You are both wrong and scum. your logic is so bad its funny. We aren't talking about if town JK hit WoS. I said town RB. Not town JK. Reading Comprehension is a good skill to have Geript. | ||
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On March 10 2013 10:01 geript wrote: There's no way to differentiate between JK and RB. Considering no NK and the WoS RB, JK is the obvious solution just as OO was 3p quite obviously in the last game. Even YOU say you trust WoS, why bother with asking RB to claim when JK is the obvious outcome. Also, congrats JK. you just disproved yourself.................................................................................................. Do you even know what you are talking about anymore? Or ever? | ||
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