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i am gonna use my actual account, i aint scared of u smurfs. | ||
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(if we get someone soon enough) | ||
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quality is not likely to be a feature of said portrait | ||
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...then someone did it wayy better | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7488arX.png) I feel like it's not really that obvious that you are a cat, also i don't think its clear that you are a menacing sort of fellow. I suggest that we lynch the next person to suggest a policy lynch | ||
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On February 26 2013 09:08 Wade Fell wrote: I'm sorry there's a possibility you are a newer player, so I will explain thoroughly: The mayor has two votes, and the runner-up for mayor gains a power that's basically only useful to mafia. We can't just go voting townreads. We have to have people state clearly why they are voting who they are voting for, and potential mayoral candidates must clearly outline who they will use the lynch on and why. Anything less is bad. Yes, ideally you vote in the towniest player as mayor, but someone can be townie and useless. Mayor determines today's lynch. The idea that Mayor is irrelevant is one you should cast out of your mind as soon as possible. On the basis that it promotes a mafia agenda. The most important thing about the election is to get town into the two roles. | ||
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On February 26 2013 09:05 Wade Fell wrote: Make me the mayor. I'm a smurf, but I'll offer you a platform that should definitely convince you that your vote is best used to elect me. My platform: 1) Lynching MilkSuckler. Fuck that guy. 2) I will use my vote aggressively to push town agenda throughout the game. I am not afraid to write cases and lay down my vote. I am a serious person. Now before you flame me, let me turn you around with this question: do you believe milksuckler had that post prepared before the game started? of course he did. Everything about that screams "pre-prepared post" which is fine if he's town but he wrote that when he didn't know his alignment. He could quite easily be scum. Don't trust him. Lynch Milksuckler. ##vote Wade Fell Writing something pre-game tells us nothing, but wade tries to convince us that it s scummy. + Show Spoiler + The only thing scummy about it was that it was written by vivax in another game who is a generally notorious fellow or so i am told | ||
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i dont know him but calling "neutral behavior" "scummy behavior" is "scummy". It is ridiculous to talk about somebody's alignment being clear at this point in the game. | ||
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Toad, i want some sanity in here, are you sure your not running for mayor? It's not like you have bodyguards anyway... | ||
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the argument that we might think scum are town is disgusting. Besides nearly every game of mafia ever has a few players that look very town that are very town and if you read the thread and people are even a bit active it is not hard to find them even on day1. | ||
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On February 26 2013 09:46 jcarlsoniv wrote: What I'm saying is that you think his post is a "scum agenda" and I disagree because I agree with WF's sentiment. then why did you use dishonest scare tactics? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + since he wants to and since i don't want to play with him | ||
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I supported a prom lynch due to these posts: + Show Spoiler + On February 26 2013 10:04 Toadesstern wrote: are you mad that it didn't work or that you didn't get more credit for it? Because it sure sounds like that. We had some discussion about the rnd you suggested, we had some discussion about what I suggested. I most definitely wouldn't phrase it the way your are [QUOTE]On February 26 2013 10:25 Toadesstern wrote: [QUOTE]On February 26 2013 10:21 Promethelax wrote: [QUOTE]On February 26 2013 10:17 Toadesstern wrote: prom could you respond to what I (and VE in response) said over here: [QUOTE]On February 26 2013 10:06 VisceraEyes wrote: [QUOTE]On February 26 2013 10:04 Toadesstern wrote: [QUOTE]On February 26 2013 09:57 Promethelax wrote: Okay, so RNG didn't create the discussion I wanted. Screw you guys. [QUOTE]On February 26 2013 09:28 Wade Fell wrote: My new platform is killing Layabout Read his posts hes scum[/QUOTE] Explain. For the moment my top scum read is WoS, he responded to gerpit's candidacy all wrong, obviously assuming gerpit is town but statistically... [QUOTE]On February 26 2013 09:23 WaveofShadow wrote: [QUOTE]On February 26 2013 09:20 geript wrote: It looks to me that the best person for mayor is someone who is willing to: A. put in the time to read the thread B. both make and evaluate other's cases C. is unlikely to be an early target for NK In this regard I would nominate myself as I am more likely to devote more time to reading (both filters and filter in the context of the thread as a whole) than anyone else. Additionally, I am relatively unknown which removes untoward bias for or against me due to previous games as well as making me a more impartial arbiter as it regards established players. My lynch platform is: Scum read > hard/impossible to read > null read > town read ## vote geript[/QUOTE] Except for the fact that you were killed N1 last game for the above reasons, by someone who is very likely smurfing in this game.[/QUOTE] He focuses on the likelihood of a night kill on gerpit, he is too interested in night actions and not in the candidacy or the actual ideas which gerpit proposes. I'm not a fan of this post or WoS's mentality. Vote me, screw random lynch. I'll lynch WoS. [/QUOTE] are you mad that it didn't work or that you didn't get more credit for it? Because it sure sounds like that. We had some discussion about the rnd you suggested, we had some discussion about what I suggested. I most definitely wouldn't phrase it the way your are[/QUOTE] This is something I noticed too. It sparked discussion - I'm left wondering what kind of discussion he thought RNG was supposed to generate if it didn't generate the kind he wanted.[/QUOTE] because again, the way you phrased that sounds awfully odd and I'm thinking of multiple explanations. None of them includes something you with a townie-mindset.[/QUOTE] Because I wanted it to gain some real traction. I had an idea about actually getting close and withdrawing my nomination since if scum was up for lynch they'd be pushing me as mayor where if there was a townie up for lynch they'd be pushing against me. It's a plan that only works if I get support on it. That was the discussion I wanted to spark. [/QUOTE] The basic idea was that Prom had stood for mayor under the premise that he would rng the lynch but then he turned around and said he had just wanted to create discussion. This is scummy because he didn't make enough of effort to create or encourage this discussion as he would be expected to do as town. Upon rereading I am not sure that he didn't do enough to push discussion. He mentions rng in a few posts but nobody really treats it as a valid option or says why it's a good/bad idea. The discussion naturally moves on and he lets it. Aside from that he posting is fine. I suppose he calls hasssy scummy for vanishing but he at least makes the effort to find out why hassy had gone + Show Spoiler + btw it was 3am uk time so maybe that | ||
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BH if anyone even suggests that your scum or disagrees with you you go after them aggressively and rudely. You often make personal attacks (though you mightn't think they are) that makes the game not fun to play. I remember i Igrok game where i don't think you were banned but you were out of order and since then i haven't wanted to play with you. (I don't think i said anything about it though. This game takes up to much time for us to treat each other like shit Vivax why hassy over chaos bear? And why don't you think we can do better than a lurker lynch when there were players you thought looked scummy? | ||
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I thought better of you VE. | ||
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He is a better choice than VE | ||
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we aren't even halfway through day1 and much of the time there hasn't been much say since it was so early or people have very short filters that don't reveal a lot | ||
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well i haven't demonstrated any scumhunting because i haven't felt able, there was a point a few hours in where people were giving "scumreads" as though it was meanful or helpful when it wasn't. I don't think him "not scumhunting" at this stage is particularly revealing. haven't even filtered him. | ||
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On February 27 2013 08:23 The Macho Man wrote: i dont even.... wat just so much wat i will be back in a bit there are 2 pints here: 1)None of the actives are scummy so your left with a crapshoot into the lurkers. There isn't really much to go on them since they haven't been posting. 2)milkman has only really posted in the early part of the day iirc and at that point there was no real scumhunting to do since you would have to go off of very very little content | ||
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On February 27 2013 09:35 TestSubject893 wrote: I've been working all day and just now got caught up on the thread. Here's what I've got. Promethelax is still my top scum read and I will be voting for a mayor that wants to kill him. Jungle Jorge and ObviousOne, in that order, are next on my scum list. I think we're placing a little too much trust in DoctorHelvetica. It seems like some people are treating him as nearly confirmed town, and frankly he's not even close to that in my book. Moreover, I'm afraid that should DrH get either of the elected roles, his perception as confirmed town will only be furthered, without him doing anything more pro-town. Most of his cred has come from telling people they aren't scumhunting enough and how great scumhunting is, and while these things are pro-town, its not something that's hard to fake. On top of that, the only contribution he's made on the scumhunting front is to really amplify the pressure on Prome. While again, this is great, the fact that he seems to be distancing himself from it slightly in this post + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2013 04:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Weird that you chose to respond to that specifically. Maybe not, maybe I'm being paranoid. And yes, I'm still pushing Prome for the day. He basically martyred so he should die. I'm working from 1-10 PST tonight so unfortunately I'm not gonna be able to be here to push him. Since all discussion is built on this foundation of lynching Prome, it's the best outcome for us right now. At least for Day 1. I would never say to lynch for information, I absolutely believe he is scum but there is no sense in acting on hunches and getting distracted. Don't fuck it up guys keep focused on the goal of finding scum. Everything else comes second. I think it's likely that DrH is town, but lets make him prove that to us before we show him so much trust. Hopefully, we've gotten it right with Prome, in which case DrH will be deserving of the town cred he seems to currently have. With the this in mind, I'm going to vote for someone who is going lynch Prome, but whose election I think will not stunt discussion and critique of the mayor himself. ##Vote: VisceraEyes Why are you trying to make people doubt the alignment of somebody that you think is town? And isn't the same thing happening for VE that you say is happening for Dr.h? People are treating VE like confirmed town too and him being elected might cause reads to be strengthened too? | ||
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On February 27 2013 09:57 TestSubject893 wrote: My point is that I think electing DrH could be detrimental to the town if we don't take a careful look at our opinion of him and why it is the way it is. I'm only mentioning his alignment as it concerns him being elected. But you think he is town so why spread doubt about him? I get what your point is but you have no reason to make it since all you might do is dissuade others from voting in someone that you think is town. +it would be far more relevant to talk about VE since he is the one that currently stand to be mayor and the one you voted for. Plus why don't you want people to look over their reads on him since he is being treated more like a confirmed townie thatn dr.h is. | ||
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On February 27 2013 10:01 ObviousOne wrote: Who elected you to be the only one allowed to ask questions? I'm trying to get some answers here and you're shitting all over me. You know who is scum? Layabout is scum. Please respond to my post as if your not a child in a strop. | ||
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grush57 jcarlsoniv The Macho Man WaveofShadow ObviousOne vivax Restraining Order I would prefer it we don't lynch prom. + Show Spoiler [please don't respond to this] + @Test you just changed my question in a stupid one and answered that | ||
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On February 27 2013 10:30 TestSubject893 wrote: @layabout: If you don't want me to respond to something, why even post it? On top of that, if you think my response is invalid, why don't you want more explanation? Your last few posts directed at me have really rubbed me the wrong way. I'd like some explanation. Did you misread what I wrote or what? The way I see those posts you're picking a fight with someone just for the sake of it. And the most obvious explanation for that would be that you want to look like you're contributing to town, without doing much. It's quite simple, you said you thought he was town. at the same time you tried to cast suspicion on him. if you are town then doing this is counter productive. it's also not very relevant since ve is the one who is going to win. So i wanted to know why you posted that since it tells me about your mindset. I didn't want you to respond because i have nothing more to say on the issue and dragging it out serves no purpose.I posted because you didn't answer my question i did the same when others didn't answer my questions. Your response was also gave me information about you but i didn't feel like i needed any more with regards to that post. | ||
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On February 27 2013 10:38 ObviousOne wrote: When layabout doesn't jump all over Grush for that post I'm fucking CEMENTED in my read they are on the same team. This is BULLSHIT. Maybe i have different expectations for you and grush? also his post is better than yours since he doesn't pretend to be contributing and is likely right about scum hiding in the lurkers. Your post was just a pointless "look at me i am contributing" which is scummy. | ||
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On February 27 2013 23:42 The Milkman wrote: So okay, layabout is doing his usual null aggressive play, wants to kill Wade no matter the alignment and does not want to lynch promethelax for a reason that it is not his fault that there was no discussion on rng. Je defends me not on the principle of what I have done or not but defends me because he thinks there was not enough time yet to scumhunt or contribute heavily. I do not quite understand this point. Layabout, are you saying that so far you could only do null blabber? An answer would be appreciated. I dont find you scummy, just reluctance to lynch promethelax, your defense of me and somehow putting Grush57 on lynch list while you did not agree with policy lynches at the very start of the game make me wonder what is the reasoning behind all of that. Blabber:I thought we had a 72 hour day 1 i had read the daypost more than once as friday not thursday sometimes my brain just does that. Also it seems that prom is being lynched whatever happens. So i wasn't as bothered about finding scum. My preference for mayor was Dr.h because there was a chance he might lynch jcarl and i wasn't sure about VE's campaign. I have also been trying to have more of a thread presence while i am here because over time i consolidated more and tended to lurk as both town and mafia. In fruity my last game if i hadn't been correct in pushing yamato i would have made a good lynch because of my lurking. I also was not the one able to push the lynch even though i put the most content up about him. I also tend to wait before commiting to reads because people don't have much time to post meanfully early on and i like to take my time to sort out my thoughts. With regards to Prom, read his filter and tell me why it should be different if he is town, i feel like he has done what he should as town and thus does not deserve to be lynched. Grush is there because i think he filter was a lot better in fruity and there are other players that look more towny than he does. I defended you due to both the scumhunting point and the fact that i think your town, in part because of your reaction to the vivax analysis. I don't think i was clear enough when i talked about the lack of scumhunting initially but there isn't much i can do about it now. | ||
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I think i prefer VE as mayor since his reads are better but we should really sort this out. Also dr.h did you find any substance on jcarl? | ||
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On February 28 2013 02:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Town doesn't martyr themselves and give up when they have a ripe chance to defend themselves. Town also doesn't (r shouldn't rather) put up bullshit fluff, put no effort into it, then later claim it was for the purpose of productive discussion. I hate this kind of defense, that you can just say any useless thing then later say you were just looking to see how people would respond. What kind of response are you looking for? You're being so passive this game and it's really bugging me. I'll be taking a close look at you later. What martyring? I haven't pushed scum because i don't have a player that i think is scum and want to push in thread. +what i have i claimed was in the purpose of productive discussion? | ||
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We have two hours we can easily pull this off. | ||
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On February 28 2013 07:25 glurio wrote: Ok I'm here now, where should i place my vote? if we kill go ahead with killing prom then switch to ve if not (unless you want to vote for wade) you might as well stay where you are On February 28 2013 07:23 layabout wrote: I think our mayor should have about 12 votes and pardoner 6/7, the votes are a bit too spread out right now since 3 of the 5 people willing to switch came from VE as opposed to wade, if we can't sort this out in the next hour we should just go back to where we were. actually make that 14 and 8 since that leaves less room for error | ||
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On February 28 2013 07:30 VayeshMoru wrote: How about we vote for how competent people have been thus far and not play this odd game of fuck with the voting numbers? No one was voting Doc.H and i think his reads are pretty meh. Pretty sure VE is town anyway. Plus i want to do pretty simple easy to execute plan for once without inacitves and stubborn "lone wolves" stopping it. | ||
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On February 28 2013 07:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Dunno, hopefully geript/layabout isn't a medic Your my top townread... | ||
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On February 28 2013 07:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Oh, I see. I'm probably going to ask vigilantes to kill you tonight, but I'm glad to hear that anyway. But that's fine unless they are stupid. Toad i'm giving up. Get off prom it's clear this isn't going to work. ##voteDr.h | ||
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On February 28 2013 07:55 VisceraEyes wrote: I'd like the record to state that Toadesstern is talking about ragequitting because I've been calling him mafia. I have not been attacking him personally, and I've given reasoning for thinking so he's mafia. Whether it's relevant or not is completely irrelevant. I am not sure how true this is but maybe you should try to resolve it with greymist out of thread | ||
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On February 28 2013 08:11 geript wrote: why? you know why + Show Spoiler + On February 28 2013 08:10 geript wrote: ##unvote vote wadefell On February 28 2013 08:1o geript wrote: absolutely nothing to explain the above post | ||
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On February 28 2013 08:17 geript wrote: If my goal of getting people to force the mayor into lynching the pardoner prome isn't dead in the water at this point then I don't know what is. I already stated that I didn't want DrH as pardoner. What's so hard to get? The massive gap between your posting and your vote, the stuff that happened since your vote, the fact that your vote is late but has nothing with it, the fact that you are clearly looking at and following the thread but not posting and the fact that your vote makes things closer and easier for the mafia to influence. | ||
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Great jobs guys. We have taken a day with a lynch that was more or less decided in a few hours with minimal lynch discussion, added 70 pages shouted at each other then split ourselves evenly between 3 players allowing a small number of probably not town players the power to decide the mayoral election. We have also been very rude to each other. | ||
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On February 28 2013 08:31 geript wrote: Quite frankly, I think it's a bunch of bull that we got it around 7-6-6-5 and then it was decided that it was impossible to get prom into the pardoner position. It's a bunch of bull and if I had a gun I'd shoot as many people as I could who said that. One of these days... geript switching prom to pardoner is a valid option but only when the mayor is comfortably ahead since that couldn't happen neither could the switch | ||
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On February 28 2013 08:38 Vivax wrote: Jesus it's one extra vote for the mayor. Who cares. Just don't give DrH the satisfaction of becoming it, I can't stand that guy already if he gets some more ego his body will start to synthesize cocaine. This is not a valid way to oppose a candidate | ||
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On February 28 2013 08:43 Wade Fell wrote: To make it this close? There's no danger unless for some horrible reason people vote for prom. Like, the three candidates for mayor are all good, and one of them, me, is the BEST. The only way danger would exist is if someone voted for prom and we nailed down that coffin so what's your deal There is more risk associated with 3 candidates than 2 and we are in a situation that has given mafia the power to choose the roles if they wish. Even if you don't mind them being able to do this it is a failure for town to allow this to happen especially when we have had this long and when the candidates are so similar and do not object to each other being voted. One of the 3 should have stepped down earlier, given that Dr.h stood because he felt people were uncomfortable with voting you this really should have been you. + Show Spoiler + unless he was talking about ve in which case it should have been him | ||
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On February 28 2013 08:51 Wade Fell wrote: You just don't like me and literally said you want to kill me regardless of my alignment. Nobody can trust anything you have to say on me, and nobody should listen to any of your reads on me this game. Hasn't stopped me from being objective, my first post against you (the second one is still valid) was made without knowing who you are. + Show Spoiler + I dislike the way you play not you personally you can thank me for 5 starring some of your blogs | ||
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On February 28 2013 09:10 Vivax wrote: I want to know why you want me vigged but don't seem to find the arguments to make a case on me. You were null until a few hours ago and at that point making a case was not a priority. Your analysis post with the diggerpic was either an effort to look like you were you were contributing or a good indicator of your mindset but i am undecided on which i think it was. But when you pushed aquanim that made very little sense to me. I thought you had been more focused on lurkers than you are upon rereading. I can't figure you out and i am confident enough in others looking better than you to want to see your flip. | ||
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On February 28 2013 09:21 The Milkman wrote: Before that Layabout asked for a kill on WadeFell, so what gives? If it's helpful I asked that in a semi-serious way to direct towards lynch discussion. I commented on prom because i thought it was important and i changed my mind when i reread the next day. | ||
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On February 28 2013 09:28 Vivax wrote: What is this post? You're saying I'm null for you but you want me vigged based on exclusion of everyone else? More or less, but you are null and confusing. | ||
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On February 28 2013 09:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'll be making a case later for vigilantes to nightkill layabout, if my reads are correct. JungleJorge must be the next to die by the lynch or from a dayvig. I can think of absolutely no other reason for his behavior. Don't be dumb | ||
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Isn't that more or less what Toad did in fruity when vivax was mafia with him? | ||
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On March 01 2013 08:07 Toadesstern wrote: that's a lie, as already mentioned and shown. Not sure if I gave links but I'm pretty sure Vivax accused me of this bullshit already somewhere down the road and I called bullshit on him. Must of misremember then. I would swear you have talked about bussing or calling out your teammates and that it's something you have done before. Not saying you did it this game though. | ||
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Despite that being a theme/ troll game it doesn't change that he has done the exact thing that you are calling him scum for as town. I think we should lynch macho today or failing that chez since I trust BC on this. night. | ||
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why you ask? well look: On March 01 2013 08:50 VayeshMoru wrote: This post from you shows a large lack of understanding of the bc and chez meta for mafia. I will agree that chez is likely mafia or third party. My reasoning however is based on how upset he was about rolling red in LIX. He had 0 interest in the game when he rolled red then and similar level of sentiment here would indicate same shit. However given that he attempted to save some of his team in LIX and has done dickall here I would argue third party more likely than red. Given that I was posting the way I was the contributions I made were imo fine as well as the fact I came out and stopped you from doing something stupid. I am fine with a vig shot on macho or grush as they have near crap to really form a solid lynchable opinion on at this venture. I seriously want someone to stop this shit ive seen reoccuring in virtually every game ive played in recently where people get to say "bc is scum or likely scum shoot him/lynch him" with no reasons posted. It leads me to post lists of who I think is scum and not give anyone the benefit of my thought process as people piss me off to the point I feel they don't deserve it. Stop trying to discredit me without an actual case. It's also worth pointing out that since mafia* decided to shoot BC then they felt that he was a threat to them. In other words at least one of the people on the mafia team wanted BC dead.+ Show Spoiler [*] + (most likely unless there is a sk and there were blocked shots) On March 01 2013 08:57 VayeshMoru wrote: not sure why obviousone is on so many lists -_- However Jcarlsoniv Geript Junglejorge Layabout Hassy Chez** likely in that list is 2 mafia and 1 third party. Haven't put in much more thought but RO, WF and milkman should all be on everyones watch lists as well. If DrH stops contributing like he did day 1 then hes likely third party. Before anyone asks why I care about mafia and third party. Town has to off them to win as well. **I have added to colors to reflect my own reads. Now if none of these players are scum then mafia's shot makes much less sense, and if 1 is scum it's chez, 2 then probably chez and hassy. But why am i so sure it's chezinu? Well the majority of players in this game have probably been skipping/ignoring/not getting chezinu's posting. I expect most people to have labelled him "null" because his posting style is unconventional. But BC is one the the players that can at least read him sometimes. And the way to do this is by activity. So BC had a scum read on Chezinu. When you factor in the way that BC almost got Dr.h it's clear that he had the ability to push a chezinu lynch if he so desired. Removing BC would greatly reduce the chance that he would be lynched. I cannot remember the game exactly but chezinu was mafia and was lurking just how is has done this game and he was nailed on such a meta case and lynched and that reinforces my belief that he is scum this game. | ||
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As to my comments about hassy they are a reflection of my view on lurkers. Q: How does town deal with lurkers on day1? A: Town ignores them. They are very difficult to read and are often absent for reason beyond their control, we do not know why they are absent. Town instead focuses on players which are there and lynches the scummiest of the bunch. Town relies on blue roles with KP to deal with lurkers since they are at best a coinflip. Players that focus their attention on lurkers day 1 are players that are focusing on easy targets that may not do much to defend themselves rather than players that are doing things that they can be held accountable for and that can be analyzed. These players are acting in a way that furthers mafia goals more than it does town. Town lynches lurkers on day1 when it cannot reach a consensus and because lurkers are dangerous players to have around endgame since they are such a coinflip. So I picked up on people posting and pushing lurkers. As far as Hassy was concerned since he is also from the UK and nobody had answered prom's question about why he might be absent i felt that i should. I have also experienced coming into a game that starts at a very late time for me and being met with a thread full of people calling me scum because i missed 16 or so hours which can be very frustrating if you don't have much time. | ||
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Additionally Toad's attempt to come up with players that he views ads confirmed town in thread reflects town thinking not mafia thinking. Mafia need to be able to push lynches again town at some point in the game and having a bunch of players that they cannot touch reduces their ability to do this. It's also harder for them to push their agenda opposite trusted town figures. Conversely it is town job to find these figures, though generally people don't feel the need to say who is almost certainly town since these players are so easy to identify. But since Toad named me my perspective might be slightly different. | ||
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plus they knew about 1 town vig and if they were responsible for the nightkills they know that if there is 3rd party it's likely the bartender likely, they also knew there was a town tracker. This suggests that there would be less KP left over and potentially more roles that have to visit people, and less chance of a town vig. | ||
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On March 02 2013 05:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Sure but we can't only talk about him today As true as that it i don't feel like we should move the conversation on when chez still only has a few votes | ||
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On March 02 2013 07:02 Wade Fell wrote: Look it seems modestly clear to me that JJ is scum, but super dooper clear to me that chez is scum. We'll lynch Chez, then we'll lynch JJ for claiming for no reason. He's probably bussing Chez at this point. LYNCH THE CHEZ nobody has any good arguments against lynching chez i think ... | ||
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On March 02 2013 19:25 MilkSuckler wrote: K.. looks like no one is here. Im swapping my vote to Chezinu .. for all the points already expressed. Im still confused by JJ role claim.. (before Toad died).. it gave scum two blues to NK? I just dont get it. Be back in a few hours milk i am fairly sure the point of it was that dr.h was saying that Toad/vivax was a confirmed liar/scum based on them both being roleblocked. personality i wrote geript off as newbie town day1 when he decided his main goal was to stop Dr.h being pardoner but not mayor. | ||
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His rough position during day 1 was that he wanted to be mayor he thought WoS was scum and that he didn't want drh to become pardoner. Isn't is strange that his position hasn't really changed? Whilst there have been several flips shootings and an excessive number of posts for him to take in and make judgements with at the start of day2 after chezinu started to gather votes he sticks his vote on WoS. But the last time he gave reasons for Wos being scum was on Feb 26!* He doesn't even try to get WoS lynched and yet he throws his vote unannouced in the voting thread. If he was town then he had basically decided to give up and that was before he was under pressure and started martyring. He also finally decides to call Dr.h scum but it's based off of an alleged and very weak "scumslip" that isn't a scumslip at all. Frankly i feel like he wanted to discredit Dr.h and picked WoS so that he could say he was scumhunting. + Show Spoiler [*] + although he does interact with him We should lynch geript. But we should do it tomorrow. I think we have scum in chezinu so i am wary of a switch. Since chezinu cannot use his power again killing geript could be more beneficial if he does flip scum since he might have a role. But what if he flips 3rd party? We know chezinu cannot be 3rd party and if we kill scum they will lose KP. Because of this i don't think switching is worth the risk. | ||
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On March 02 2013 23:41 layabout wrote: why the hell is a 142 day2 thread in the yellow? | ||
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On March 03 2013 04:21 geript wrote: So if two people arrive at different reads does that make one of them not town? No, scum can 'arrive' to the same reads as town. Crazy talk I know right... Different read means different perspective, there is a whole range that players can have, but players with the same one are more likely to share alignment, i wasn't talking in absolutes so don't try to misrepresent my point then shoot it down. | ||
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Before today i wrote him off as as a crazy newbie, but i can no longer feel i can justify why that would be the case. He is very likely scum. | ||
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On March 03 2013 05:54 TestSubject893 wrote: The whole thing just struck me as WIFOMy and honestly, I agreed with geript more than you on it (although it had no bearing on my view of his alignment). It looked like you were just trying to attack him for the sake of attacking him. I don't see much point in doing that since he's already highly likely to get lynched tomorrow, unless you're just looking for easy town cred. I don't need towncred, there are only 3 ppl in the game that might look townier than me. And asking someone what they think is not attacking them, calling them scum or insulting them is attacking them. When it comes to mafiavs3rd party if we kill mafia it reduces the number of KP each night by 1 guaranteed. A bartender can at most do this by only choosing to mark targets. A mutant is less likely and in any case our jailer is outed and our medic was modkilled so the KP is only as dangerous as mafias. 3rd party can also kill mafia. Mafia flipping is also more useful in terms of information. | ||
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On March 03 2013 07:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Chez shot milkman cause I was asking for a dayvig to shoot him and milkman was his top read supposedly, it seems it had nothing to do with you bh pls tell me you weren't asking for a vig to shoot milkman. | ||
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On March 03 2013 07:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Anyway isn't looking for mafia irc cheating no it isn't, it's a bit against the spirit of the game though + Show Spoiler + It is common for mafia to use a medium outside of TL such as QuickTopics or IRC to communicate during the game. Please be mindful that other players may be more tech savvy than you and they may attempt impersonate members of your team or attempt to infiltrate your chat. You use these media at your own risk. aqua i shouldn't be the one to point out why to you but you should think i am town. | ||
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On March 03 2013 08:02 Aquanim wrote: Just because that defence "worked" for Toad doesn't mean it will work for you. Defence against what? right now we have: vivax aquanim geript themachoman testsubject glurio chez choas bear hassababy jcarlsoniv restraining order grush obviousone jj who are all afk or playing retardedly enough to make me want to inflict physical harm upon them or both. That list is too big. | ||
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On March 03 2013 08:30 TestSubject893 wrote: Are you trying to cause a no-lynch? + Show Spoiler + Yes i am trying to cause a no-lynch. you caught me oh no i have let my entire scumteam down .... | ||
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On March 03 2013 09:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Geript and jcarls need to get whacked tonight swap jcarl with machoman since his filter is half the length it would be if he was town | ||
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Looking for "scumlips" is more or less hoping to get lucky. Why not spend your time doing something that might actually identify scum? I don't like aqua's recent posting but i still don't think he is scum as some of you seem to. Upon re-reading machoman i think that restraining order and hassy are better shots than him. | ||
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testsubject: well i did point that out and it took me 15 seconds to type what else can i do in 15 seconds huh? Why don't you actually look for mafia and post about it instead of looking for unhelpful crap and then trying to pressure based on said unhelpful crap? | ||
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Player X claims jailer. Player X expects to live through the night. Now forgive me if i am wrong but wouldn't that suggest player X might not really be a town jailer? So jj is scum. Since toad was roleblocked, vivax must be lying about beingroleblocked to allow for jj's claim and thus jj and vivax must both be scum. | ||
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1 Mafia did not correctly submit any night actions. This appears to be the most likely scenario. Since jj the non-counter-claimed town jailer says he tried and failed to rb this would mean that aqua was not roleblocked and is lying because he wants towncred and is scum. 2 Mafia sent in a roleblock but not a kill. If it did occur then why would mafia choose to roleblock aquanim over the claimed vig or even the claimed jailer? 3 We have another doctor/jailer. Either the doctor or jailer protected the right target or the jailer blocked scum carrying out the KP (if scum have to pick someone to shoot which seems likely with trackers/watchers present). This is pretty damn unlikely since town would have started with more protection at night than mafia had KP. 4 Any kind of mafia shot RO scenerio This is also very unlikely, it would probably involve viavax and jj being scum and i don't think it's beneficial to explore this scenario. 5 Hosts made a mistake! 6 Post your own wild theories i can't think of any more i'm tired! It's possible mafia roleblocked aqua because the correct response to his claim is to shoot him but in this case then they will have traded a member for a mislynch which i am okay with. Also the presence of a cult scientist means we have a DT who shouldn't claim until he gets anything useful and figures out his sanity, they are unlikely to be naive/paranoid or the scientist role would be a waste. | ||
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On March 04 2013 11:06 JungleJorge wrote: Okay. Another theory: Vivax is sk. He shot RO and mafia shot him, believing he was vig. I suppose that could be the case but it doesn't explain why they would roleblock aqua over vivax, since if they thought he was a vig they should roleblock him to stop the shot or (you)jj since jj might stop their shot going through. The chance that aqua is scum is too high to ignore. | ||
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On March 04 2013 11:19 MilkSuckler wrote: I see.. i have done that as scum before.. and interesting enough, he was starting to get some heat I do see credence in a play akin to this. Do you actually find scummy things in his filter though? Day 1 he was was one of my top town reads but all of yesterday was really meh. He was attacking me without good reason. His prioty lynch target was hassybaby (who was absent and the kind of target i would expect scum to go for over town). He asked questions like this which are needlessly aggressive and unnecessary if he would just read the posts in question. It's like he is trying to look like he is doing something by being agressive but without a goal in mind. Frankly the roleclaim alone is enough to lynch him. Until then i didn't see him as a reasonable lynch. | ||
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On March 05 2013 11:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote: oh actually scratch that RB Aquanim, wait for him to claim it then jump all over him saying there's no reason scum wouldn't rb vivax and he's a liar = a pretty good scum plan to force a mislynch so it's ultimately WIFOM then where is the nk? it wouldn't be smart to assume that scum roleblocked but didn't nk, an sk is unlikely our medic is dead and our jailer messed up his action. WIFOM or not aqua needs to die. | ||
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sk must shoot and shot can't be blocked day1 scum KP 2 vivax kp 1, sk kp 1?? 2 townies die, protect on toad vivax roleblocked day2 scum KP 1 vivax kp 1 sk kp 1?? 1 scum dies, no town protects that we know of but what if vivax is the sk? well if that were the case vivax has given scum the power to get him lynched whenever they want. | ||
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after that you should lynch through glurio WaveofShadow grush57? glurio has been lurking very hard since day1 and has stayed out of the spotlight because of it. He also began treating vayesh as town very early on, and we can be relatvely sure that mafia felt threatened by BC since they offed him n1. In this post + Show Spoiler + On March 02 2013 01:17 glurio wrote: Ok i caught up. (Kinda skimmed since grushs fakeshot.) I believe vivax is telling the truth with his roleblock and vig statement. Also i think chez is probably a misguided town-dayvig would scum be so bold and really just shoot someone who isn't a big scumread in the face like that? I took a look at vayesh's filter. The reads he mentioned are the following: Wade Fell + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2013 06:36 VayeshMoru wrote: It has come to the annuls of a man so lazy he forgot to don his mask. The shadows that adorned the face of this everywhere layer should come to reach the eyes of all. Tremble the men of black should start. The marching feet of justice shall not halt. A list of reads by VE where he thinks Toad might be third party + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2013 07:15 VayeshMoru wrote: of those thoughts Vayesh sees one common thought. A second thought is almost in align and the third is not yet fully concluded. The amphibian seems more some mutating thing, or perhaps the one who sells spirits. The man of bovine is still not fully alluded. geript + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2013 09:25 VayeshMoru wrote: the ripped man is a man of the darkness. His serpentine ways are merely a habit of his nature Here a list of DrH where he agrees: layabout JJ geript testsubject vivax + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2013 11:17 VayeshMoru wrote: Vayesh likes the words flowing from your gallifreyan mouth. The synconization of thoughts is more alike than that of any other soul. The logical conclusion is to give you power of the death machines. Toad scum/3rd party again + Show Spoiler + On February 28 2013 07:40 VayeshMoru wrote: Seriously stop dude. This entire play of yours is extremely anti town. I like VE. When hes on the ball he is a beast. Its getting him to that zone though and personally I find he works better at it with less pressure on him instead of more. However you just said "him for mayor isn't what I want" and then describe him as volatile, and emotional" after calling him stupid. If you were town you would not want this man in office. Toad is scum / third party geript again + Show Spoiler + On February 28 2013 11:02 VayeshMoru wrote: geript is scum so fear him you should not Chez scum/3rd party + Show Spoiler + On March 01 2013 08:50 VayeshMoru wrote: This post from you shows a large lack of understanding of the bc and chez meta for mafia. I will agree that chez is likely mafia or third party. My reasoning however is based on how upset he was about rolling red in LIX. He had 0 interest in the game when he rolled red then and similar level of sentiment here would indicate same shit. However given that he attempted to save some of his team in LIX and has done dickall here I would argue third party more likely than red. Given that I was posting the way I was the contributions I made were imo fine as well as the fact I came out and stopped you from doing something stupid. I am fine with a vig shot on macho or grush as they have near crap to really form a solid lynchable opinion on at this venture. I seriously want someone to stop this shit ive seen reoccuring in virtually every game ive played in recently where people get to say "bc is scum or likely scum shoot him/lynch him" with no reasons posted. It leads me to post lists of who I think is scum and not give anyone the benefit of my thought process as people piss me off to the point I feel they don't deserve it. Stop trying to discredit me without an actual case. 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I just don't see that as likely on its own; if the scumteam was trying to organize a bus anyway, why not put a scum member as mayor with two votes? I don't believe that DrH is scum so it doesn't make sense to give up the more powerful role to town, especially to someone as active and pro-town as he is. It is possible they did this to try and mafia dayvig him at a later date or something (since a NK will be difficult with medics and such), but that seems too dangerous to me; for a scumteam the longer DrH is left alive the harder it becomes for them. This is all a little WIFOM-y but I'm trying to get behind your point of view here, and it doesn't quite work. Care to clarify your thoughts on the bus plan? He is more likely to think this way if he knows that a scumdayvig exists (because he is mafia) but here he also talks about how shooting VE would be dangerous and this is more mafia oriented thinking than town. 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On March 05 2013 07:39 Aquanim wrote: I am fully aware of how terrible that makes me look and fully aware that you'll probably be obliged to lynch me at some point - if nothing else, to know that the roleblock today actually happened. On March 07 2013 05:39 Aquanim wrote: Why? In case you haven't noticed, me faking a roleblock on myself as scum, and then claiming it after scum KP disappeared would be pretty daft. why the sudden urge to stay alive? | ||
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Your posts are all over the place. You said extra kp night 1 was because of a scum JOAT when mafia KP was two and two townies died. And your filter is 26pages that i am not reading. Ever. since an sk is even less likely given what we know we have even more reason to lynch aqua! ##vote aquanim BH would have gotten his 3rd result today so even if he had bread crumbed his results n1 and n2 he wouldn't have known his sanity so his crumbs would offer us nothing. + Show Spoiler + not sure why i am awake | ||
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JJ is pretty much confirmed town. We are not lynching testsubject since he looks town. We might lynch gulrio since he provided nothing new today other than speculating that somebody is 3rd party which mafia are more inclined to do than town since mafia know whether somebody is mafia or not but they do not know if somebody is 3rd party. Nobody has provided good reasons for us to not lynch aqua. Scum KP was missing but we are supposed to believe that scum didn't shoot and choose to block aquanim over the claimed vig or the claimed jailkeeper. The most likely scenario is that scum messed up their actions and aqua claimed a roleblock for towncred. It's also strange that he pointed out what in his filter is supposed to have drawn the roleblock since he has no need to attempt to drawn a roleblock and mafia would have no good reason to try to bluesnipe with their block when there are 2 claimed blue and 1 dead blue. | ||
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glurio has been lurking very hard since day1 and has stayed out of the spotlight because of it. He also began treating vayesh as town very early on, and we can be relatvely sure that mafia felt threatened by BC since they offed him n1. In this post + Show Spoiler + On March 02 2013 01:17 glurio wrote: Ok i caught up. (Kinda skimmed since grushs fakeshot.) I believe vivax is telling the truth with his roleblock and vig statement. Also i think chez is probably a misguided town-dayvig would scum be so bold and really just shoot someone who isn't a big scumread in the face like that? I took a look at vayesh's filter. The reads he mentioned are the following: Wade Fell + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2013 06:36 VayeshMoru wrote: It has come to the annuls of a man so lazy he forgot to don his mask. The shadows that adorned the face of this everywhere layer should come to reach the eyes of all. Tremble the men of black should start. The marching feet of justice shall not halt. A list of reads by VE where he thinks Toad might be third party + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2013 07:15 VayeshMoru wrote: of those thoughts Vayesh sees one common thought. A second thought is almost in align and the third is not yet fully concluded. The amphibian seems more some mutating thing, or perhaps the one who sells spirits. The man of bovine is still not fully alluded. geript + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2013 09:25 VayeshMoru wrote: the ripped man is a man of the darkness. His serpentine ways are merely a habit of his nature Here a list of DrH where he agrees: layabout JJ geript testsubject vivax + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2013 11:17 VayeshMoru wrote: Vayesh likes the words flowing from your gallifreyan mouth. The synconization of thoughts is more alike than that of any other soul. The logical conclusion is to give you power of the death machines. Toad scum/3rd party again + Show Spoiler + On February 28 2013 07:40 VayeshMoru wrote: Seriously stop dude. This entire play of yours is extremely anti town. I like VE. When hes on the ball he is a beast. Its getting him to that zone though and personally I find he works better at it with less pressure on him instead of more. However you just said "him for mayor isn't what I want" and then describe him as volatile, and emotional" after calling him stupid. If you were town you would not want this man in office. Toad is scum / third party geript again + Show Spoiler + On February 28 2013 11:02 VayeshMoru wrote: geript is scum so fear him you should not Chez scum/3rd party + Show Spoiler + On March 01 2013 08:50 VayeshMoru wrote: This post from you shows a large lack of understanding of the bc and chez meta for mafia. I will agree that chez is likely mafia or third party. My reasoning however is based on how upset he was about rolling red in LIX. He had 0 interest in the game when he rolled red then and similar level of sentiment here would indicate same shit. However given that he attempted to save some of his team in LIX and has done dickall here I would argue third party more likely than red. Given that I was posting the way I was the contributions I made were imo fine as well as the fact I came out and stopped you from doing something stupid. I am fine with a vig shot on macho or grush as they have near crap to really form a solid lynchable opinion on at this venture. I seriously want someone to stop this shit ive seen reoccuring in virtually every game ive played in recently where people get to say "bc is scum or likely scum shoot him/lynch him" with no reasons posted. It leads me to post lists of who I think is scum and not give anyone the benefit of my thought process as people piss me off to the point I feel they don't deserve it. Stop trying to discredit me without an actual case. And his death post: If you just look at the posts i quoted isolated, geript is clear winner with 4 posts about him. I do think we can find scum if we look at what he posted because there must be a reason why he got killed. He mentioned the following people (number of times they got mentioned): geript (4) toad (2) chez (2) JJ (2) layabout (2) hasyy (1) jcarlsoninv (1) wade fell (1) vivax (1) testsubject (1) Except he tries to defend chez who flipped mafia. He has been actively avoiding giving us his own thoughts or doing analysis. | ||
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On March 04 2013 08:45 glurio wrote: That is such a weird post. I really don't understand it. Sorry for not being here much this weekend. RO does look pretty scummy. But so does geript, and if we follow vayesh's reads (he was right with chez too) he should be lynched tomorrow imo. And yes i believe jcarlsoniv is a good vig shot. I misread this the first time but here he calls RO scummy but then says we should lynch geript and vig jcarl. This is a good example of not sticking to a read. Had RO survived i think it's very likely that glurio would have just forgotten about him. It's also worth pointing out that glurios stance has not changed since n2. | ||
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jcarlsoniv(4): Testsubject893, WaveofShadow, glurio, randombum <--- bad lynch glurio(3): The Macho Man, DoctorHelvetica, layabout <---- best lynch WaveOfshadow(1): ObviousOne <---- acceptable lynch vivax(2): JungleJorge, MilkSuckler <----fucking around with town for no good reason Testsubject893(1): Aquanim <----fucking around with town for no good reason charmander(1): Vivax <----fucking around with town for no good reason not voting: grush57 We have a few hours left and a few people promising phone votes, we need to consolidate quickly. it also says 14 alive but i only count 13 | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [*] + but if you have filtered me i have already explained why albeit indirectly | ||
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jcarlsoniv(4): Testsubject893, WaveofShadow, glurio, randombum <--- bad lynch glurio(3): The Macho Man, DoctorHelvetica, layabout <---- best lynch WaveOfshadow(2): ObviousOne, jcarlsoniv <---- acceptable lynch vivax(2): JungleJorge, MilkSuckler <----fucking around with town for no good reason Testsubject893(1): Aquanim <----fucking around with town for no good reason charmander(1): Vivax <----fucking around with town for no good reason not voting: grush57 It's also worth pointing out that there are 4 people in the fucking around category and only 2mafia and 1 3rd party?? present in the game. This is why people get fed up of normals. | ||
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test isn't getting lynched so drop it | ||
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On March 08 2013 06:54 WaveofShadow wrote: LOL can we nominate him for best contribution 2013 or something? No. At least it's better than On March 07 2013 23:25 WaveofShadow wrote: ##Vote: jcarlsoniv | ||
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On March 08 2013 06:56 glurio wrote: How about we just lynch him instead? He's not active and looks seriously scummy. He won't get active even if called out. So what to do with him? Lynch him. yeah glurio why don't we try to deflect the lynch from you onto random lurker? | ||
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glurio(6): The Macho Man, DoctorHelvetica, layabout, grush57, Vivax, Aquanim jcarlsoniv(4): Testsubject893, WaveofShadow, glurio, randombum WaveOfshadow(2): ObviousOne, jcarlsoniv vivax(2): JungleJorge, MilkSuckler Testsubject893(0): charmander(0): not voting(0): | ||
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On March 08 2013 07:01 glurio wrote: How is that random? I already mentioned grush being scummy and a good lynch/vig target multiple times. this is funny because if i: click on your filter button filter then click on All hit "Ctrl + f" then then "grush" i notice that every time you mention grush you have called him "useless" "scum" or a "good lynch/shot". You seem to be missing.... REASONS. or ANALYSIS | ||
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glurio says he is town. mafia wouldn't say that would they? He MUST be town. | ||
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On March 08 2013 09:03 WaveofShadow wrote: Read my fucking lips, layabout, HE'S NEW. Everything about his posting SCREAMED new, but you all ignored it, and me. It also screamed pro-scum agenda like you scream tard | ||
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I miss the ol' mass roleclaims. We are lynching through jcarl, vivax, aqua, oo, right? Milk why would a player breadcrumb madhatter if they are a mad hatter? Makes no sense since then scum won't set off your bombs. | ||
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if there's a bartender this could be close OO grush's actions have been okay for a town, i don't see why he is your top lynch | ||
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a town vig that shot scum would never vote for himself and accept death so easily. Right? | ||
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On March 10 2013 03:30 Vivax wrote: Reading comprehension do you know what it is? More votes on me please i need a reason to be able to call y'all bad later. You don't get to do that when you vote yourself | ||
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aqua is back to town. it was an okay play by scum though, if jj had sent his block in i would have been a goner. if we lose to a 3rd party bartender i am gonna be pissed at all these modkills | ||
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we want your bombs to overlap with people that are doused so that we have enough cycles to lynch who we need to. | ||
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2) why the hell did y'all think toad was mafia??? 3)can anybody tell why they found me so scummy? | ||
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On March 13 2013 08:29 marvellosity wrote: for what it's worth I had you down as "feels townie" for basically the whole game I've noticed that early on people (espicailly sandro) label me scum and i am not sure why but once they say that people change from ignoring half of what i say to ignoring most of what i say and it's annoying and probably my fault. | ||
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I had this list on day1: ====================================================== those that aint town lookin: ====================================================== Promethelax grush57 The Macho Man vivax ObviousOne Restraining Order Chezinu Hassybaby Chaos Bear It's just a shame i believed vivax's vig claim due to no other town KP and an unwillingness to read his posts. I also changed my mind on prom because of his last few posts i have done this before and i really need to stop.. Part of the reason i didn't really push anyone day 1 was because this list was so large and also because i felt like pushing reads didn't matter due to the election. Regardless of what i did prom was getting lynched and that made making a case pointless since i didn't have a strong sense of who to push. As the game went on i really lost track of my reads and even though i kept opening my notes i made very few changes to them. During mid day2 i realized OO was probably town, and by day3 i added themachoman and grush to the list. But by this point the only person left was vivax who i thought was town. On day1 i was sure glurio was town but for some reason i pushed him on day4. Similarly i was pretty sure geript was town early on but as he became really aggressive and negative i convinced myself that it was likely due to him being scum. | ||
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On March 13 2013 08:39 marvellosity wrote: the one negative point, that i can't quite remember who it was about, is that you defended someone very oddly at some stage. It was on day 2. I wrote something like "odd defence of x but meh. still feels town" Maybe it was Toad, or JJ? | ||
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With this game i think a lot of people thought we had won very early on and the lynches were pretty unanimous so there wasn't much to say. Do you reckon if day1 had been less spammy we might have actually gotten replacements? I have replaced into a 100 page thread before but i think it puts most people off. | ||
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On March 13 2013 10:33 Mocsta wrote: Fair point raised actaully. its daunting (i replaced into 80 page thread. and ppl are impatient and expect you to have reads and its like. hold up. i need AT LEAST 12 hrs jsut to read the fucking thing) Seriously though, if iamp didnt modkill.. I think we woulda won Yeah. Iamp, or toad, or hassy or choas, or that bomb. It's annoying really. | ||
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