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February 22 2013 13:07 GMT
#200
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I have read the OP.
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February 22 2013 13:13 GMT
#202
Don't let me stop you, sweetie.
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February 22 2013 14:38 GMT
#216
I can be whichever order you want.
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February 22 2013 14:42 GMT
#218
Oh my, what a cute waitress.

When's your shift over, hun?
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February 26 2013 00:01 GMT
#329
MilkSuckler alredy showed his inability to read the thread even with a clearly prewritten post, which makes him a poor choice for election..
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February 26 2013 00:18 GMT
#360
On February 26 2013 09:16 Toadesstern wrote:
How likely is it that we can make it happen that we can get our lynch candidate come in as second in the votes?
We could get 2 flies with one stone that way.

Thoughts?

As likely as the mayor is to do that, I'd wager.
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February 26 2013 00:31 GMT
#394
I don't know why you're all talking shit about a plan that would dissuade mafia from grabbing a "free" role, but to each their own I guess...
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February 26 2013 00:42 GMT
#418
On February 26 2013 09:40 ObviousOne wrote:
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On February 26 2013 09:39 Vivax wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Top scum read probably geript at the very moment. His candidacy for mayor seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Guaranteed mislynch from him as either alignment.


And what exactly makes him scum?

I'm living in the moment here. I don't make anything of the WF JJ shenanigans yet. Got asked a question, gave an answer. Ask me about geript again in 23 hours, okay? Promise?

If you say you have a read, you should have... an actual read.
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February 26 2013 01:37 GMT
#538
Well Toad and VE are not on a scumteam together, or they'd be bussing each other right about now.
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February 26 2013 02:01 GMT
#588
On February 26 2013 10:57 geript wrote:
Wave lurked most of day 1 and was semi-active in the last 8 or so, maybe more. Right now my top scum read is on WoS. His emotion core is drastically different from that in nmm36. In 36 his emotions were consistent and now theyre mostly crashing between joking and angry. All of it feels forced and unnatural. His post style is far different as well. Lots of little nothing posts

I don't see as big of a difference as you make it sound.

And slight differences in posting are to be fully expected from new players.
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February 26 2013 02:18 GMT
#618
On February 26 2013 11:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I really hate mayor day 1s because everyone operates under this assumption that mafia would obsess over getting the role, if I were scum I'd personally advise my team to not even run. Take that for what it's worth but the extra attention isn't really worth shit without bodyguards.

Wales Fell (or whatever the smurf is) made a good point that pardoner is really only beneficial to scum. But I'm confused why any mayor would announce intention to autolynch pardoner, broadcasting that plan to the scum guarantees that they won't get the role lol

....
Exactly.
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February 26 2013 02:40 GMT
#627
I'd be fine with getting Wave pardoner.
That post makes it unlikely he's mafia.
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February 26 2013 02:56 GMT
#638
In fact, all the worries about the pardoner being mafia can be silenced if we just give it to a townie.

So I'm going to vote WoS for now.
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Qatar276 Posts
February 26 2013 03:00 GMT
#644
On February 26 2013 11:58 grush57 wrote:
I am running for mayor or pardoner!
A vote for me is a vote for lynching scum, of which I do not know yet
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On February 26 2013 11:56 Restraining Order wrote:
In fact, all the worries about the pardoner being mafia can be silenced if we just give it to a townie.

So I'm going to vote WoS for now.


why does everyone think WoS is town et

Because his posts shows the kind of logic I would expect a townie to use. I find it hard to believe scum would fake something like this, especially not a new player. And it doesn't look copy-pasted.

In a way, his plan works, even though it's not a good plan, because he proposed a plan that's not good, which makes it kinda good.
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February 26 2013 16:09 GMT
#916
On February 27 2013 00:35 The Milkman wrote:
Why are people of low thread presence trying to defend Promethelax and swing the lynch somewhere else?

This is the dumbest thing I have read all game, and let me tell you, there are plenty dumb things around.
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February 26 2013 16:52 GMT
#945
On February 27 2013 01:45 Toadesstern wrote:
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On February 27 2013 01:39 Vivax wrote:
Why do you want us to write a defence for the guy you want to lynch?

wrong answer. If the guy you quoted is town he is open minded and if your defense proves is suspicion on prom to be incorrect he'll be happy to tell you so and look for someone else.
You don't tell people to do only stuff that aligns with your thoughts...

It is concering that he wants people to explain a lack of scuminess though. That's just not going to happen. There's no point in defending prom for anyone in this game unless your name is prom or you have someone you consider to be far more scummy.
The first one is irrelevant, the second one is done by explaining why you think guy-#2 is scummier and should be an option as well.

So while the question might look decent and open minded it's actually really naive to assume something like that would help at all.

Both answers sound pretty correct to me.
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February 26 2013 18:54 GMT
#1006
On February 27 2013 03:48 ObviousOne wrote:
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On February 26 2013 15:08 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 14:43 Wade Fell wrote:
Firstly, The only people in this thread making any sense are VE and DrH. Besides them and myself nobody should even be considered for the mayoral role.

This vet circle jerking has to stop now
Being a vet does not guarantee your logic is sound; or that your shit smells better than mine and others.
Further it does not guarantee you are town.

All members of this game have a responsibility to be transparent in play and present well-reasoned thoughts.

Perhaps, players with lower experience would not make as capable a mayor as a vet; however:
(1) This mayor role is nerfed without BG - so the outcome of vet/new is of less importance
&
(2) Less experience is not synonymous with being incapable of reasoned thought that is CORRECT.

I don't have a problem with your prome case; I already commented on pretty much everything you wrote, a fair bit before you wrote it. But I guess it doesn't make sense, not coming from a confirmed vet.

The quicker you get over your game of 'soggy biscuit'; the quicker we are going to get along.


This is a scum player grasping for someone to point the finger at, someone to blame. This falls perfectly in line with what DrH says here (link) when he quotes from Ver's guide. .

Nice blatant buddying here. Im guessing you buy ya kneepads on bulk discount...

(Milk vs. Prom) Here my first reaction is screaming in my head "IT'S A BUS IT'S A BUS" but my first reactions are typically wrong. Why insult the majority of the game? Where's the town mindset in that? Why not just say it nicely such as if you more experienced players would be so kind as to note when the lesser-experienced players say something useful and expand upon it that would be much appreciated instead of going on about knee-pads? Just having a WTF moment reading this.

Why, oh why would you say this?

On February 27 2013 03:41 JungleJorge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 22:00 Promethelax wrote:
Hey all, catching a jetplane outta here in a few minutes but I'm here right now.

I'm still uncomfortable with Wade though knowing it is bh makes him less likely to be scum in my eyes. His weird d1 behaviour is weird in a blazing way, which I usually find scummy.
Things I still find scummy in him: his omgus attack already mentioned, attacking me for having a changed read after I reread the thread (I get that everyone wants to get on my wagon now, its the in thing to do but assuming you do lynch me when I flip look for shoddy reasoning like Wade's), his obsession with the vet/newbie dichotomy (he is focusing on it to the exclusion of actual scum hunting)
Things I find townie: his confidence and casual tone ("for all you know I'm warbaby" and "so no real opinions then")
conclusion: keep an eye on, not a good day one lynch

JJ on the other hand is looking scummier (again this only works for me but once I flip go back and look at my reads k thx)
I am under a lot of pressure now and most/all of the vets and smurfs (i.e. probable vets want to lynch me) and yet JJ comes in and says I am town for no reason. He has a reason. He just won't share it. It looks to me like a scummer trying to gain a little cred on a mislynch while also not actually derail the lynch.
This is his whole interaction with me/comment on me before his sudden defense
On February 26 2013 10:11 JungleJorge wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:37 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:35 geript wrote:
As of yet, no. The question is why do you feel my newbie status is important?

Actually its the opposite.
You become non-existent.

'pretty much how I feel right now.
See you D2 everybody!

Promethelax, how do you feel about this post?

conclusion: probably scum, would lynch.

I'm heading out of town and will have limited internet access. I will post when I can.
Good luck town!


Promethelax is likely scum. I made that post specifically to see how he would react (as you noticed I didn't provide any reasons). Mostly my concerns were that too many people were pushing for his lynch and there was no opposition to it. Also the main reasons for the suspicion on him was some sudden change of mind or some controversial behavior, and those are normally townie traits.

Now onto his reaction to my post: as town he would never come to the conclusion that I'm scum in that spot. What would be my interest as scum in defending a player everybody else thinks is scum? For town cred? As you can all tell that very often has the opposite effect and town cred is overrated anyway. People had not even mentioned my name prior to this so I had no reason to risk my neck over this. If you know you are townie your first reaction in this situation certainly is to think the people that are defending you are town! Now as scum what would you do? First you have inherent guilt, you think you look bad, so it's plausible that the claim that the guy defending you must have extra information should fly. Secondly you want to divert attention from your lynch, so it's a terrific opportunity to throw suspicion on someone that is on the other side of the issue. People that want to lynch prome certainly won't like the defense one bit, and are more easily willing to jump on the person defending it.

As you can see Promethelax post makes very little sense if taken form a townie perspective, but makes a lot of sense given a scum mentality. I'll refrain from expanding my thoughts on macho man from now as to not derail this lynch.

So let me get this straight: You did something fishy and of debateable quality (defend a guy for no reason), and when he points out how nonsensical that is, and after it's clear the thread still wants Prome lynched, you decide to 180° your read and say "lol jokes I thought he was scum all along!"
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Qatar276 Posts
February 26 2013 18:57 GMT
#1009
On February 27 2013 03:55 ObviousOne wrote:
I am giving my reactions to the game Restraining Order. Or are you going to place a restraining order on me?

You are giving them while discrediting yourself.

I shall indeed place a restraining order onto such behavior.
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Qatar276 Posts
February 26 2013 23:05 GMT
#1138
I'm fine with VE being mayor.
I also like the Prome lynch.

Gonna update that vote there.
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February 26 2013 23:09 GMT
#1143
On February 27 2013 08:07 The Macho Man wrote:
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On February 27 2013 07:59 grush57 wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Anyone else, grush?

I don't like Milkman.

I agree with this

That milkman dude talks a lot of town atmosphere not much scum hunting.

I agree with this agreement.
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February 27 2013 00:52 GMT
#1185
On February 27 2013 09:48 JungleJorge wrote:
DocH and Wade Fell, you both seem to believe scum Prome wouldn't behave in the way I described, yet you believe Prome is scum. What gives?
If you believe it is a null tell and I have reached the correct conclusion, by your own standards, what exactly is the problem here? Wouldn't you be better off taking in the information in regards to the reactions of many players, including the one set to be lynched, and ultimately have a better picture of the situation prior to the lynch so you could make a more informed decision and even after if we end up lynching him? If you believe it produced no meaningful content you can safely ignore it. It's funny how you accuse me of being anti-town when I'm trying to produce information by my own means, yet you both share my conclusion.
Also how exactly my withholding information for some amount of time to observe the reactions to my post damages the town in any regard? I've said I'd share the concerns I had with prome's lynch and I did. As it stands right now I believe the best lynch is prome and I'd be foolish to try to persuade town that The Macho Man is a better lynch, if even I don't share that point of view. Yes I do have problems with TMM, but I'll discuss those when the time is appropriate. It's a common mistake by many players to say every single thought that comes to their minds, instead of keeping the focus on what needs to be done.
Most of you so far seem to believe I'm some sort of idiot who ought to be dismissed. It's actually a barrier that I'm trying to overcome by making long quality over explanatory posts. I assure you I'm pretty good at this game, you would be surprised to know who you are dealing with. I assure you that if I had my name attached to my posts I would need to right a third as much and would have three times the influence.

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February 27 2013 02:34 GMT
#1260
On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax

Yes Maybe Yes Yes No Yes
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February 28 2013 12:31 GMT
#1991
Okay, there's still like 5 pages or so I didn't read yet, and I have to go out again now.
Spam less pls.

Bottom line, vigs should shoot JJ or Vivax, tomorrow we lynch the other.
I doubt the last few pages changed that.
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March 01 2013 18:32 GMT
#2666
All arguments for not lynching Chezinu so far can be boiled down to "it would be stupid for scum to do X"

To which I say "it's Chezinu".

Looking at activity/involvement/behavior it's clear he's not town. Well, as clear as a Chezinu can get, at least.
Now he unveiled himself as dayvig, that means he is mafia, since he can't be 3p...
Voting him.
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March 10 2013 23:04 GMT
#4191
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March 13 2013 00:05 GMT
#4379
a close deal in the end, given how atrocious our start was.

Also bummed JJ screwed up our BIG PLAYS with vivax the "vig".

gg gg
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