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On February 28 2013 22:01 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 19:43 glurio wrote:
Let us not forget about vivax. If you look at his filter most of his posts are one-liners. He has already 6 ! pages of filter and this is his one post with actual content.
I'll quote it here for your reading pleasure.
+ Show Spoiler +On February 28 2013 01:32 glurio wrote:
OK nothing vivax? Really? On February 28 2013 03:33 glurio wrote:
I'm down with putting prom into the pardoner position and offing him and the role with him. On February 28 2013 04:05 glurio wrote:
Ok ill change my vote to DrH so VE doesn't get mayor and goes crazy. On February 28 2013 07:25 glurio wrote:
Ok I'm here now, where should i place my vote? On February 28 2013 07:35 glurio wrote:
Ok i still don't really get it. So we give a stupid, emotional and possible bad player (just quoting) 2 votes D2? Because you can possibly steer him DrH? On February 28 2013 07:45 glurio wrote:
So can we consolidate on someone else than VE now? On February 28 2013 08:11 glurio wrote:
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You got toad and prome confused? On February 28 2013 08:33 glurio wrote:
I do think it's a good idea to put prom as pardoner, but VE as mayor i didn't like so much. On February 28 2013 08:40 glurio wrote:
When from now is the deadline? How many hours? (Can't get the timezoneconverter thing to work right now) On February 28 2013 08:42 glurio wrote:
DrH you should switch to yourself. On February 28 2013 19:44 glurio wrote:
With that i'll be away buying groceries for a while. On February 27 2013 04:19 glurio wrote:
Do you think vayesh is scummier then prome? On February 27 2013 02:22 glurio wrote:
Game started at 1 am my time, had to work this morning and it took me nearly 3 hours to read all those pages, that's why it took so long to contribute.
I have to go out for a bit, will be here before deadline hopefully. On February 27 2013 04:11 glurio wrote:
I think vayesh does make sense in what he posts. Yeah hes pretty much just prodding around but thats kinda what you have to do in the beginning. And he has found good points imo.
Jcarlsoniv do you believe prom and vivax are town? If yes, what makes you believe so? On February 27 2013 04:40 glurio wrote:
I found it odd he went so harsh after vayesh because i think vayesh played a good town game so far. Thats why i went after him. Would've gone further in questioning him, if he didn't went afk. On February 28 2013 00:43 glurio wrote:
Why would i need to prove to you that i'm town? I believe you alread know.
I'll just go on and do some scumhunting, which i am doing right now! So how about answering to my post?
It's funny how you start off your case by 1.mentioning things like activity, that actually show I'm town. You should start looking at my meta before you start drawing conclusions based on that, but drawing conclusions is secondary to you, all you're doing is making a puppet case after a bunch of people mentioned me as scumread. 2. Making points that apply mostly to yourself.
Just because someone is guilty of doing something himself does not render his argument invalid.
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On February 28 2013 22:30 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 22:16 glurio wrote:
I bring you back into discussion since right now mostly other people are being discussed and i don't want you to get away with doing nothing.
What good did you do so far?
How could your read change on macho after he replied probably not knowing that you actually wrote something about him?
Whats your current read on him?
Why did you never share your reads although i asked you three times? I pressured multiple people, I got lurkers like you, Milkman and Hassy to post, I explained my thought process early and thoroughly. I didn't tell you my reads cause I don't always have to, especially at that time where I was asking specific people like you, Hassy and Milkman questions, one should assume that there's a reason I am asking questions to these people and no one else, no? So asking me about my reads is obsolete when you see them through my actions. My Macho read is slight town. His last entrance into the thread was really townie. Which scum enters the thread complaining that no one made a case on him? Yeah. What makes the whole thing nullish is the fact that iamp simply is more present during the game, but I don't see any reason to suspect he's scum currently. Now, answer me the question: What good did YOU do so far? What should make me believe you're town? Your presence has been mostly laid back, seemingly disinterested, low activity, you announce your absence lots of times, but more importantly: You are asking me to give a read on a guy you believe to be town? How does that fit? Why is it so important for you to know what I think of your townreads? Something doesn't compute here. Also expand on why me mentioning JJ instead of MachoMan is scummy.
Two things:
I am not a lurker.
I post when I can, not because someone tells me to.
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Glurio, I like your filter. I mean, it could use more posts and bigger, more consolidated ones, but everything in your play and reads just seems right. From what I have collected, you did agree with Wade on Milk lynch at the start of the game, you agreed with the promethelax is scum sentiment. There is one weird thing, where you disagreed with bum's plan, but supported to elect promethelax as pardoned in the end anyway. What are your current thoughts on OO?
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So could we call your opinion of OO more like "Disinterested Townie" rather than "Mafia"?
Thanks for that remark of bum's plan, I forgot it included electing a (presumably) scum mayor.
The night is pretty active. Mhm. Gotta read more filters!
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On March 01 2013 08:35 Toadesstern wrote:
Guess there can't be anything done about people not having a clue... Anyways shoot Macho / Grush and one out of BC / chez.
There'll be 2 or 3 mafias in there imo. The lynch on prom wasn't easy because it was an early bus (I know I'm town I am pretty damn certain VE and Laya are just being stupid right now) but because noone did something against it.
I'd say that means we have a vet on team mafia who wasn't around or wasn't active. That's BC and Chez for me right now. Maybe Dr.H because he started being active late but that's unlikely.
Don't lynch VE if someone was really stupid enough to shoot me because of what people said lately and don't listen to any "one of VE/Toad has to be mafia crap". We're both really egocentrical, both really volatile, both really proud, both resentful and those kind of attitudes easily clash with each other. So despite still being really angry about this game and being told I'm mafia for *insert random towntrait here* I realy don't think he's mafia.
Look for people who kept on telling bullshit about how we should be lynching into anyone like VE or me today (once grush and Macho are dead) because again, I'm pretty damn certain there won't be a mafia in Laya / VE and I'm also pretty damn certain Dr.H / BC aren't stupid.
Maybe BH is an alternative as well, he's been really unreasonable throughout d1 but that's kind of his thing so he's really hard to judge for me and I'd say BC / Chez are way more likely to flip mafia than BH is. Still, don't listen to anyone spouting nonsense about how we have to lynch into people looking good because the lynch was to easy. If that's the case (I'm pretty certain it wasn't) you deal with those people later on. Deal with people who are easy to read and lynch people who are looking bad because they're looking bad. Don't make it overly complex and try to pull big plays by lynching some random dude that makes 0 sense to lynch unless *insert fancy conspiracy theory* is true.
That's it from me for today. I ignored everything VE said.
You seem to be very concerned about getting vigged.
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Toad, why ignore what VE says? You seem to have pretty strong read on him. Also, you did not want him elected as mayor, but in the end you said it is a good thing. I do not understand why you want to kill Macho/Grush and BC(?)/Chez, I think it should be vigilante's discretion who they should kill, given that we have plenty of inactive people or people who are not noticeable. Like, there is common agreement that OO seems fishy, what about him?
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On March 01 2013 00:15 The Macho Man wrote:
i change my mind on jj he is being open with his thoughts and is talking about the game a lot i think he is town now.
Obviousone martyr crap looks to me as natural and not forced seems like he is more likely to be town at this point.
I agree with jj on aqua and taking another look as well as what at obvious said aqua. It seems like aquas only contribution was to in fact just tunnel obvious and seemed like that was his way of contributing.
hasybaby is probable scum as well because he does not care about town at all and seems to have no interest in the game.
so aqua and hasy
On February 28 2013 13:53 JungleJorge wrote:
I haven't looked into OO, nor I think that's how I should be spending my time. As I've read the thread normally he didn't seem suspicious to me. Why would aqua being scum make OO confirmed town in your opinion?
And OO, yes, I've read through the rest of aqua's filter and his interactions with the thread and it supports my conclusion. I think however that the post I quoted should be sufficient damning evidence alone.
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fuck i lost the other post
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On March 01 2013 09:02 Vivax wrote:
I got roleblocked.
Anyone else?
For someone reason I don't believe that.
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OKAY I CALL BULLSHIT ON VIVAX'S CLAIM.
The only damn mention about hassy in his filter is "We should lynch him tomorrow" and "What do you think about hassy"
NO CASE.
NO "HASSY IS SCUM"
NO "HASSY NEEDS TO DIE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE"
Me and glurio (the freshest reads)
Glurio has 2 page filter and him being your "vig shot" would make more sense given you actually bothered to call him out.
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On March 01 2013 09:03 jcarlsoniv wrote:
So...either we had a doc save someone, or there is no SK. Would be lovely not to have to worry about that extra kill.
My sentiments from D1 on JJ still stand. I have to drive back to school, but I'd like to hear from him, and I'm gonna reread his filter when I get a sec.
If you want to wifom here's a thought for you:
Mafia doublestacked VE.
That means we have one kill too much.
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On March 01 2013 09:12 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 09:05 The Milkman wrote:On March 01 2013 09:02 Vivax wrote:
I got roleblocked.
Anyone else? For someone reason I don't believe that. You sure that you aren't yamato? Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 09:05 MilkSuckler wrote:On March 01 2013 09:02 Vivax wrote:
I got roleblocked.
Anyone else? Show me the breadcrumbs.... Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 23:25 Vivax wrote:
Milkman is probably glurio's scumbuddy, asking some random questions, soft-defending him against me.
If glurio flips red you're next. Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 23:38 Vivax wrote:
I don't care if Toad wants me vigged, glurio is scum and should be taken care of one way or another.
This RO guy soft pushing me when the mood swings over is scummy as fuck as well. That's as far as I would go with crumbing. Initially wanted to shoot glurio, but on second thought hassy was a safer target and I chose him, didn't crumb that though. Mafia might have seen that as reason enough to roleblock me, so that puts glurio into the deep red.
Hassy was safer target?
What? How can a vigilante think about someone as "safer" target?! You kill the guy because HE IS SUSPICIOUS. If you thought there is a scum medic and he'd protect glurio... well... Then you have failed miserably.
Of ALL the people mafia would roleblock Vivax? Really? Sorry, but many people called for vig shots, so your "breadcrumbs" are moot in this case.
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On March 01 2013 09:23 Toadesstern wrote:
Î was rolebocked
Now that is a roleblock I can understand. What do you make of Vivax claiming rb as well?
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I cannot believe that a sane medic would leave mayor unprotected.
Like, no way in hell.
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On March 01 2013 09:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 09:42 The Milkman wrote:
I cannot believe that a sane medic would leave mayor unprotected.
Like, no way in hell. If I were medic, I wouldn't protect VisceraEyes. I would have protected BloodyC0bbler to see what he brings Day 1 or maybe WaveofShadow.
Okay, that's a solid alternative as well (BC).
I say that scum doublestacked VE because I operate under the assumption that
a) we should have a medic
b) it is highly likely that he would have protected VE, the mayor
So to off VE they'd need to bank their entire KP. I am not a good theorist when it comes to kills, but I wouldn't dare to bet that mayor would go unprotected N1.
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On March 01 2013 09:42 Vivax wrote:The realization should have come to Milkman's mind that what he's doing is incredibly scummy by now. Look how the scum tries to hang onto other people when it doesn't get any resonance for its lies and then immediately shuts up when it fails. "Oh what no we would never roleblock you, why the hell did you say you would shoot glurio and then tried to shoot hassy, you must be scum" All the while completely disregarding one important thing about roleblocked vigis. When I look at his early game stances regarding Prom it all begins to make sense. + Show Spoiler +On February 26 2013 23:26 The Milkman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 23:21 The Macho Man wrote:On February 26 2013 10:35 Vivax wrote:On February 26 2013 10:31 The Macho Man wrote:
what does everyone think of vivax simply trying to figure out smurfs not alignments is the greatest of all time on to something or not? What does everyone think about NachoMan picking me out of everyone else doing the same? Let's see, Toad made a guess, Wade is making guesses, Vivax made guesses. Who might be easier to lynch? Oh it's Vivax, everybody loves lynching Vivax. This guy tries insinuate that i am scum with this post and does not follow it up at all. HE comes off as scum that needs a crying towel. On February 26 2013 22:00 Promethelax wrote:Hey all, catching a jetplane outta here in a few minutes but I'm here right now. I'm still uncomfortable with Wade though knowing it is bh makes him less likely to be scum in my eyes. His weird d1 behaviour is weird in a blazing way, which I usually find scummy. Things I still find scummy in him: his omgus attack already mentioned, attacking me for having a changed read after I reread the thread (I get that everyone wants to get on my wagon now, its the in thing to do but assuming you do lynch me when I flip look for shoddy reasoning like Wade's), his obsession with the vet/newbie dichotomy (he is focusing on it to the exclusion of actual scum hunting) Things I find townie: his confidence and casual tone ("for all you know I'm warbaby" and "so no real opinions then") conclusion: keep an eye on, not a good day one lynch JJ on the other hand is looking scummier (again this only works for me but once I flip go back and look at my reads k thx) I am under a lot of pressure now and most/all of the vets and smurfs (i.e. probable vets want to lynch me) and yet JJ comes in and says I am town for no reason. He has a reason. He just won't share it. It looks to me like a scummer trying to gain a little cred on a mislynch while also not actually derail the lynch. This is his whole interaction with me/comment on me before his sudden defense On February 26 2013 10:11 JungleJorge wrote:On February 26 2013 09:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 26 2013 09:37 MilkSuckler wrote:On February 26 2013 09:35 geript wrote:
As of yet, no. The question is why do you feel my newbie status is important? Actually its the opposite. You become non-existent. 'pretty much how I feel right now. See you D2 everybody! Promethelax, how do you feel about this post? conclusion: probably scum, would lynch. I'm heading out of town and will have limited internet access. I will post when I can. Good luck town! Prom is definitely not confirmed scum as the whole thread seems to think and the most concerning thing that he actually has done is this post here in saying that he isn't going to be active after all the pressure. This is the most tell sign that he is scum If he does not care about town and doesn't post then he should die. Vivax has actually done nothing this game and should die. If prom sticks around and contributes i say let him live vivax hasn't done anything. A vote for me is a vote to kill vivax the man who wants to appear active but in fact is doing nothing Vivax Macho madness is coming straight at you. Okay. I agree with Promethelax not caring about looking town is bad. His "goodbye" post is the most direct way to politely say you just don't care. Although, I don't agree about letting him go and replacing him with Vivax. Vivax's been spammy and useless, while BEING in the thread. He put zero effort, that's true, but that happens - especially at the start of the game. Of course, we should try to spend our limited time (48 hours seems so long, but as others have observed, it seems to be quite short given the switches happening nowadays) as best as we can. From soft-defending what Prom did, to full-heartedly supporting his lynch, but then simply "agreeing" how about what Prom does is "bad" and right afterwards trying to sway attention onto me. Let's lynch this guy first actually, everything else isn't as much of a sure scum hit as this guy. ##Unvote
##Vote The Milkman
Read that post again you quoted. I am saying that Promethelax needs to be lynched BEFORE you.
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Furthermore:
Vivax attacks me on the basis of my day one play. He also claims to be a vigilante. His scum reads he has expressed throughout the day and night were me and glurio. He chose to shoot hassybaby. If he is so dead set on me being scum based on day one play, why he did not try to kill me? Easy. First, he is not a vigilante. Second, he is scum.
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On March 01 2013 10:08 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 10:05 The Milkman wrote:
Furthermore:
Vivax attacks me on the basis of my day one play. He also claims to be a vigilante. His scum reads he has expressed throughout the day and night were me and glurio. He chose to shoot hassybaby. If he is so dead set on me being scum based on day one play, why he did not try to kill me? Easy. First, he is not a vigilante. Second, he is scum. Why would he change his mind and "shoot" Hassy if he was scum?
He slipped himself that he considered it more of a safe shot.
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Chezinu, read day one yet? I am willing to read you. It would be great if you were to actually show on which side you are on.
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On March 01 2013 09:12 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 09:05 The Milkman wrote:On March 01 2013 09:02 Vivax wrote:
I got roleblocked.
Anyone else? For someone reason I don't believe that. You sure that you aren't yamato? Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 09:05 MilkSuckler wrote:On March 01 2013 09:02 Vivax wrote:
I got roleblocked.
Anyone else? Show me the breadcrumbs.... Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 23:25 Vivax wrote:
Milkman is probably glurio's scumbuddy, asking some random questions, soft-defending him against me.
If glurio flips red you're next. Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 23:38 Vivax wrote:
I don't care if Toad wants me vigged, glurio is scum and should be taken care of one way or another.
This RO guy soft pushing me when the mood swings over is scummy as fuck as well. That's as far as I would go with crumbing. Initially wanted to shoot glurio, but on second thought hassy was a safer target and I chose him, didn't crumb that though. Mafia might have seen that as reason enough to roleblock me, so that puts glurio into the deep red.
Here you go Milk.
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