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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 17:22 GMT
#1470
On February 27 2013 23:42 The Milkman wrote:
So okay, layabout is doing his usual null aggressive play, wants to kill Wade no matter the alignment and does not want to lynch promethelax for a reason that it is not his fault that there was no discussion on rng. Je defends me not on the principle of what I have done or not but defends me because he thinks there was not enough time yet to scumhunt or contribute heavily. I do not quite understand this point.
Layabout, are you saying that so far you could only do null blabber? An answer would be appreciated. I dont find you scummy, just reluctance to lynch promethelax, your defense of me and somehow putting Grush57 on lynch list while you did not agree with policy lynches at the very start of the game make me wonder what is the reasoning behind all of that.

Blabber:I thought we had a 72 hour day 1 i had read the daypost more than once as friday not thursday sometimes my brain just does that. Also it seems that prom is being lynched whatever happens. So i wasn't as bothered about finding scum. My preference for mayor was Dr.h because there was a chance he might lynch jcarl and i wasn't sure about VE's campaign. I have also been trying to have more of a thread presence while i am here because over time i consolidated more and tended to lurk as both town and mafia. In fruity my last game if i hadn't been correct in pushing yamato i would have made a good lynch because of my lurking. I also was not the one able to push the lynch even though i put the most content up about him. I also tend to wait before commiting to reads because people don't have much time to post meanfully early on and i like to take my time to sort out my thoughts.

With regards to Prom, read his filter and tell me why it should be different if he is town, i feel like he has done what he should as town and thus does not deserve to be lynched.

Grush is there because i think he filter was a lot better in fruity and there are other players that look more towny than he does.

I defended you due to both the scumhunting point and the fact that i think your town, in part because of your reaction to the vivax analysis. I don't think i was clear enough when i talked about the lack of scumhunting initially but there isn't much i can do about it now.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 17:30 GMT
#1474
Can we get a few more votes onto dr.h so he can be pardoner?

I think i prefer VE as mayor since his reads are better but we should really sort this out.

Also dr.h did you find any substance on jcarl?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 17:35 GMT
#1475
On February 28 2013 02:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 02:22 layabout wrote:
On February 27 2013 23:42 The Milkman wrote:
So okay, layabout is doing his usual null aggressive play, wants to kill Wade no matter the alignment and does not want to lynch promethelax for a reason that it is not his fault that there was no discussion on rng. Je defends me not on the principle of what I have done or not but defends me because he thinks there was not enough time yet to scumhunt or contribute heavily. I do not quite understand this point.
Layabout, are you saying that so far you could only do null blabber? An answer would be appreciated. I dont find you scummy, just reluctance to lynch promethelax, your defense of me and somehow putting Grush57 on lynch list while you did not agree with policy lynches at the very start of the game make me wonder what is the reasoning behind all of that.

Blabber:I thought we had a 72 hour day 1 i had read the daypost more than once as friday not thursday sometimes my brain just does that. Also it seems that prom is being lynched whatever happens. So i wasn't as bothered about finding scum. My preference for mayor was Dr.h because there was a chance he might lynch jcarl and i wasn't sure about VE's campaign. I have also been trying to have more of a thread presence while i am here because over time i consolidated more and tended to lurk as both town and mafia. In fruity my last game if i hadn't been correct in pushing yamato i would have made a good lynch because of my lurking. I also was not the one able to push the lynch even though i put the most content up about him. I also tend to wait before commiting to reads because people don't have much time to post meanfully early on and i like to take my time to sort out my thoughts.

With regards to Prom, read his filter and tell me why it should be different if he is town, i feel like he has done what he should as town and thus does not deserve to be lynched.

Grush is there because i think he filter was a lot better in fruity and there are other players that look more towny than he does.

I defended you due to both the scumhunting point and the fact that i think your town, in part because of your reaction to the vivax analysis. I don't think i was clear enough when i talked about the lack of scumhunting initially but there isn't much i can do about it now.


Town doesn't martyr themselves and give up when they have a ripe chance to defend themselves. Town also doesn't (r shouldn't rather) put up bullshit fluff, put no effort into it, then later claim it was for the purpose of productive discussion. I hate this kind of defense, that you can just say any useless thing then later say you were just looking to see how people would respond. What kind of response are you looking for?

You're being so passive this game and it's really bugging me. I'll be taking a close look at you later.

What martyring? I haven't pushed scum because i don't have a player that i think is scum and want to push in thread.

+what i have i claimed was in the purpose of productive discussion?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 17:39 GMT
#1479
well prom tries to contribute then goes afk when he said he would pregame, he has roughly 3 pages of filter when he was around for about 13 hours
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 21:29 GMT
#1547
if we want to make prom pardoner (since mayors promise to lynch him) and be rid of the role we need some of the wade voters to switch, then the doc.h voters can.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 21:40 GMT
#1555
prom is dying anyway so your moving your vote to him so that we can make him pardoner and get rid of the anti-town role
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 21:52 GMT
#1569
BH get with the plan we are destroying the power and (i thought) we were having VE with mayor.

We have two hours we can easily pull this off.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 21:53 GMT
#1570
vivax we leave lurkers for blues since we cannot really distinguish between them
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 22:17 GMT
#1596
VE why didn't you say that before with your vote switch instead of waiting for BH to come in and shit at our idea with exaggerated reasoning and then aqua gets scared to swap?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 22:23 GMT
#1605
I think our mayor should have about 12 votes and pardoner 6/7, the votes are a bit too spread out right now since 3 of the 5 people willing to switch came from VE as opposed to wade, if we can't sort this out in the next hour we should just go back to where we were.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 22:28 GMT
#1612
On February 28 2013 07:25 glurio wrote:
Ok I'm here now, where should i place my vote?

if we kill go ahead with killing prom then switch to ve if not (unless you want to vote for wade) you might as well stay where you are

On February 28 2013 07:23 layabout wrote:
I think our mayor should have about 12 votes and pardoner 6/7, the votes are a bit too spread out right now since 3 of the 5 people willing to switch came from VE as opposed to wade, if we can't sort this out in the next hour we should just go back to where we were.

actually make that 14 and 8 since that leaves less room for error
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 22:35 GMT
#1627
On February 28 2013 07:30 VayeshMoru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 07:28 layabout wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:25 glurio wrote:
Ok I'm here now, where should i place my vote?

if we kill go ahead with killing prom then switch to ve if not (unless you want to vote for wade) you might as well stay where you are

On February 28 2013 07:23 layabout wrote:
I think our mayor should have about 12 votes and pardoner 6/7, the votes are a bit too spread out right now since 3 of the 5 people willing to switch came from VE as opposed to wade, if we can't sort this out in the next hour we should just go back to where we were.

actually make that 14 and 8 since that leaves less room for error


How about we vote for how competent people have been thus far and not play this odd game of fuck with the voting numbers?

No one was voting Doc.H and i think his reads are pretty meh. Pretty sure VE is town anyway. Plus i want to do pretty simple easy to execute plan for once without inacitves and stubborn "lone wolves" stopping it.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 22:42 GMT
#1640
And yet he had 6/25 votes at most and he wouldn't vote for himself, he didn't want to be mayor and very few of us supported him, i am happy to switch back but i don't think he has much of a chance
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 22:46 GMT
#1649
On February 28 2013 07:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 07:39 The Milkman wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:34 VayeshMoru wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:32 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:30 glurio wrote:
I actually really don't wanna vote for VE, all his comments about possibly not lynching prom based on whatever mood he has?
Why are you pushing for VEs election toad? There is a chance that he'll just lynch you, he already said that before. I don't get it.

he's kind of stupid and emotional but there's no way he's stupid enough to lynch me. He knows that'll get him instalynched if he's mafia and it has to be a joke trying to make me rage if he's town, though I don't really see the reasoning for that one...

Anyways, if Prom comes in 2nd there's literally no way any mayor we elect can pull bullshit on us. I like the idea and we can just ignore VE once he becomes mayor. At least that's my plan for d2.


VE has day vigi'd people who he knew were town (as town) to attempt to get someone he wanted lynched. He has revenge killed people for getting him lynched on bad play. He has countless number of examples of this style of play. You pushing for him this hard after his flip flopping of who he'd lynch compared to the steadfastness of Bh and drH baffles me.


I have a feeling scum don't like the idea of me having 2 votes and medics on me every night.

You mean people would not protect you anyway?
It all reminds me of poor Radfield.

Dunno, hopefully geript/layabout isn't a medic

Your my top townread...
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 22:51 GMT
#1654
On February 28 2013 07:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 07:46 layabout wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:39 The Milkman wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:34 VayeshMoru wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:32 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 28 2013 07:30 glurio wrote:
I actually really don't wanna vote for VE, all his comments about possibly not lynching prom based on whatever mood he has?
Why are you pushing for VEs election toad? There is a chance that he'll just lynch you, he already said that before. I don't get it.

he's kind of stupid and emotional but there's no way he's stupid enough to lynch me. He knows that'll get him instalynched if he's mafia and it has to be a joke trying to make me rage if he's town, though I don't really see the reasoning for that one...

Anyways, if Prom comes in 2nd there's literally no way any mayor we elect can pull bullshit on us. I like the idea and we can just ignore VE once he becomes mayor. At least that's my plan for d2.


VE has day vigi'd people who he knew were town (as town) to attempt to get someone he wanted lynched. He has revenge killed people for getting him lynched on bad play. He has countless number of examples of this style of play. You pushing for him this hard after his flip flopping of who he'd lynch compared to the steadfastness of Bh and drH baffles me.


I have a feeling scum don't like the idea of me having 2 votes and medics on me every night.

You mean people would not protect you anyway?
It all reminds me of poor Radfield.

Dunno, hopefully geript/layabout isn't a medic

Your my top townread...

Oh, I see. I'm probably going to ask vigilantes to kill you tonight, but I'm glad to hear that anyway.

But that's fine unless they are stupid.

Toad i'm giving up. Get off prom it's clear this isn't going to work.
##voteDr.h
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 22:57 GMT
#1661
On February 28 2013 07:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'd like the record to state that Toadesstern is talking about ragequitting because I've been calling him mafia. I have not been attacking him personally, and I've given reasoning for thinking so he's mafia. Whether it's relevant or not is completely irrelevant.

I am not sure how true this is but maybe you should try to resolve it with greymist out of thread
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 23:11 GMT
#1674
geript get in here
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 23:13 GMT
#1681
On February 28 2013 08:11 geript wrote:
why?

you know why
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 28 2013 08:10 geript wrote:
##unvote
vote wadefell


On February 28 2013 08:1o geript wrote:
absolutely nothing to explain the above post

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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 23:21 GMT
#1683
On February 28 2013 08:17 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 08:13 layabout wrote:
On February 28 2013 08:11 geript wrote:
why?

you know why
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 28 2013 08:10 geript wrote:
##unvote
vote wadefell


On February 28 2013 08:1o geript wrote:
absolutely nothing to explain the above post


If my goal of getting people to force the mayor into lynching the pardoner prome isn't dead in the water at this point then I don't know what is. I already stated that I didn't want DrH as pardoner. What's so hard to get?

The massive gap between your posting and your vote, the stuff that happened since your vote, the fact that your vote is late but has nothing with it, the fact that you are clearly looking at and following the thread but not posting and the fact that your vote makes things closer and easier for the mafia to influence.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 23:33 GMT
#1687
So at the moment Doc has 9 votes VE has 9 and Wade has 8.

Great jobs guys. We have taken a day with a lynch that was more or less decided in a few hours with minimal lynch discussion, added 70 pages shouted at each other then split ourselves evenly between 3 players allowing a small number of probably not town players the power to decide the mayoral election. We have also been very rude to each other.
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