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On February 26 2013 19:52 The Milkman wrote:
Stop asking for day kills and trying to get the identities of smurfs, useless fluff and it only makes the thread big. I am sorry for not posting this in one post but I am getting really dismayed by the one liner festive over here. Effort people, were on like page thirty and we are not even half through the day. I understand Promethelax's plan, it fizzled but what are we going to do. I understand some smurfs suspicion of him planning a getaway with a rng argument. People are quite upfront about their opinions, that is one good thing... Besides all that negativity flowing through them...
so no real opinions then
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On February 26 2013 19:53 geript wrote:
Also is wade Marv?
:| HOW SERIOUS ARE WE
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I'm comfortable with a DrH mayorship, but only on the condition that he lynches Prom with no takesie-backsies. Anyone who thinks I don't want to lynch Prom is profoundly unfamiliar with my play, but DrH is an acceptable Mayor. if VE can somehow convince me he's actually going to lynch Prom, then that's also chilltacular but I don't think VE has convinced himself.
Also layabout what's the deal bro
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If that's still your opinion at the deadline, you can count on my vote. Given that we're both going to lynch the same guy and one of us wants to be mayor and the other doesn't, I'm going to see if I can't win this election in your stead, though.
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that question is so bad I can't even think of a good insult to tell you how bad your question is
your question is wrong
they say "there are no stupid questions" but they are wrong
they are so wrong
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Yeah that doesn't help the fact that you're asking people to decide to policy lynch a guy D2 in a hypothetical case where he posts something when he has not in fact posted anything, he might still post right now, etc.
Just everything about the question is bad. IF hassybaby posts, we'll deal with that hurdle when we come to it, using the information available at the time.
ugh.
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JJ you have some explaining to do. I will lay this out clearly for you. Initially (link) you defend Prom by saying he's town, and say you plan on being more specific later. You also say TMM is scummy, and say you'll explain why later. This is an unhelpful way to post because you are at this point, Prom's sole defender, and you've got a scumread who's not Prom, and you're _not_ explaining what's going on. When you return 9 hours later, you say (link) that Prom is likely scum. You walk back your defense of it, and say that your concern is that people weren't opposing his lynch. People still aren't oppositing his lynch, but you make this claim about Prom:
On February 27 2013 03:41 JungleJorge wrote:
as town he would never come to the conclusion that I'm scum in that spot. What would be my interest as scum in defending a player everybody else thinks is scum? For town cred? As you can all tell that very often has the opposite effect and town cred is overrated anyway. People had not even mentioned my name prior to this so I had no reason to risk my neck over this. If you know you are townie your first reaction in this situation certainly is to think the people that are defending you are town! Now as scum what would you do? First you have inherent guilt, you think you look bad, so it's plausible that the claim that the guy defending you must have extra information should fly. Secondly you want to divert attention from your lynch, so it's a terrific opportunity to throw suspicion on someone that is on the other side of the issue. People that want to lynch prome certainly won't like the defense one bit, and are more easily willing to jump on the person defending it.
As you can see Promethelax post makes very little sense if taken form a townie perspective, but makes a lot of sense given a scum mentality.
Most of what you say in this paragraph is false. If I'm a townie and I see a guy defending me for literally no reason, and the guy refuses to explain himself, I immediately think "this is scum trying to set it up so he looks good after I flip" and I think this is pretty much true of everyone. Now, that may not be my final conclusion, but you must always consider the possibility of scum defending townies. A lot of this paragraph is you defending your own actions, saying you "had no reason to risk" your neck over it. If someone reads this paragraph quickly and not attentively, it LOOKS like you're trying to read into his mindset and draw conclusions, but your logic is profoundly flawed. You did not put yourself in the shoes of a townie being mislynched, you made up a narrative that fit the conclusion you wanted, or you simply don't understand how mafia works.
What really gets my goat though (and it gets the SHIT out of my goat) is that you end your damn post with this:
On February 27 2013 03:41 JungleJorge wrote:
I'll refrain from expanding my thoughts on macho man from now as to not derail this lynch.
No. This is not acceptable. If you have a scumread, you share that shit with the town. What if your evidence convinces people that macho man is scummier? That's not derailing a lynch, that's RAILING a lynch.
This town is DISEASED.
this town is INFESTED with people who don't want to share their thoughts, their logical process by which they arrive at conclusions. they just say "I think X" or "I think Y" and it's SHIT. It's SHIT and we're EATING IT like it's candy.
stop eating shit JJ. stop spitting shit into my mouth. It's digusting. I am not a sewer and you are not a toilet.
stop it.
This post? This post is terrible. (link)
what are you even doing here? your'e backtracking your stuff, blah blah blah
look, under the (profoundly unlikely) prom-is-town theory, AND THIS IS WHAT YOU SUPPOSEDLY THOUGHT, prom attacked you BECAUSE you said he was town for no reason that you shared. Prom is clearly scum, but look at what's happening here! You're hurting us. You're lowering the level of the discourse. It's been like a day since you said you have a scumread on macho man, and you're not sharing.
I don't want to lynch you today, not at the moment-- but you're playing against the town.
stop it. stop
stop
stop
stop
stop stop stop stop
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JungleJorge just UGHGHGHGHGH
STOP BEING YOU
BE SOMEONE BETTER
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On February 27 2013 09:19 VayeshMoru wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 09:15 Wade Fell wrote:
JungleJorge just UGHGHGHGHGH
STOP BEING YOU
BE SOMEONE BETTER it could be worse. He could be vayesh
In vayesh's own way, though, he isn't as bad, because at least vayesh doesn't clothe his dissembling in the garments of truth.
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On February 27 2013 09:21 geript wrote:
Prome I have more null to null minus as it feels more like he's intentionally trying to lynch himself. Right now I'm leaning more towards RO as all his posts read to me more towards general disinterest to trying to do anything. My problem is that I'm having trouble placing the underlying emotion so that I could really place the disinterest in perspective.
geript I want you to think about the logic of a disinterested self-lynching martyr as being someone you wouldn't lynch and think about where following this policy will lead you
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I was leading for mayor iirc. I shouldn't have expressed so much support for DrH in retrospect, but he'll make a fine mayor if he lynches Prom.
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JJ you're just so bad
just share your thoughts. they're terrible
but just share all of them
god
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by bad i don't mean your'e dumb, i mean you're not like helping the town. come on man. wtf
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On February 27 2013 09:51 JungleJorge wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 09:49 Wade Fell wrote:
JJ you're just so bad
just share your thoughts. they're terrible
but just share all of them
god As opposed to you who are good? Tell me how is the offensive name calling helping? I don't believe there was enough time for you to read carefully my post before responding to it. Spend less time typing and more time reading, it will go a long way.
zZz
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JJ is trying to make an excuse to dissapear again. By saying this, I point out the obvious absurdity of his unwillingness to share his reasoning with town. Look how absurd he is! Look!
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Everyone who's lurking should just not post/vote and get modkilled so we don't have to sort out who's who later
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just because there exists a circumstance where i'd vote drh doesn't mean i'm not the best candidate ._.
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On February 27 2013 15:43 geript wrote:
Seeing as how WF hasn't made real splashes to be mayor since the initial campaign, I think he's resigned himself to not being able to grab it and quit trying.
I have considered town actions for DrH, but a soft campaign makes far more sense as scum than as town. I see little other intent that makes any sense.
Yeah good point if I were really trying to be mayor, I'd be showing how I'd make good use of the 2x vote by pressuring additional people, reinforcing the case on prom, and interacting in a positive way with other townies.
GOOD POINT BECAUSE THOSE ARE THINGS I'M NOT DOING?
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Like I think geript just literally hasn't been reading the thread
there's no other explanation
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