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On February 26 2013 09:33 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 09:28 ObviousOne wrote:On February 26 2013 09:23 Wade Fell wrote:On February 26 2013 09:22 JungleJorge wrote:On February 26 2013 09:16 Toadesstern wrote:
How likely is it that we can make it happen that we can get our lynch candidate come in as second in the votes?
We could get 2 flies with one stone that way.
Thoughts? That's a good idea if we could make it happen, but unless the person we are set on lynching is town, I find that unlikely to occur. No harm in giving it a shot though. I don't like the idea of sending a bunch of votes the way of our top scumread and strongly oppose this idea. In the spirit of entertaining the thought, do you think it would be possible if there is one clear leading candidate? Such as someone ahead by more votes than the mafia team could possibly swing away to a secondary candidate? Or does the math not work in our favor for this? For example: 13 votes for Candidate A (intended mayor) 5 votes for Candidate B (intended lynch) At this point we could consolidate votes on Candidate A and then move several to B to ensure they are elected pardoner. This could take place after, say, 30-36 hours of the day is complete or something thereabouts. You are assuming that scum has zero thread influence, why?
Math is hard. Are you sure you're not Kadaver?
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On February 26 2013 09:33 Wade Fell wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 09:32 MilkSuckler wrote:
Not lynching him.
Its early game, we have only minute details to contemplate.
With that in consideration I thought he did a decent job of a cock-block.
I still don't like you; but the cock-block is a null tell. So Im lynching you so far, simply because I don't like you.
Reads subject to change obviously Dear. Yeah there's 0% chance anyone should consider voting you for longer than like 3.5-4 seconds.
OooOoO you have me quaking in my boots Mrs. Fell.
You're just jealous I had an awesome campaign post as inspiration. Keep trying for those cock-blocks why don't ya.
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urgh do i have to keep reading his posts?
Toad, i want some sanity in here, are you sure your not running for mayor? It's not like you have bodyguards anyway...
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On February 26 2013 09:35 geript wrote:
As of yet, no. The question is why do you feel my newbie status is important?
Actually its the opposite.
You become non-existent.
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On February 26 2013 09:35 geript wrote:
As of yet, no. The question is why do you feel my newbie status is important?
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On February 26 2013 09:30 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 09:19 JungleJorge wrote:On February 26 2013 09:12 Promethelax wrote:On February 26 2013 09:09 MilkSuckler wrote:On February 26 2013 09:07 Promethelax wrote:
1. Vote for me, vote for RNG. I have a 1 in five shot at lynching scum and it will be hilariously awesome,
You gonna include yourself in that RNG dear If I am allowed to lynch myself day one. Yes. I believe in true RNG. Isn't that retarded as both alignments? Yes? But the idea of a random lynch is good. You should be able to see why. Assuming you don't suck, which I'm assuming.
I trust any decent town player should be able to lynch scum day one when elected as mayor more than 20% of the time. Why would you give up the chance on making an informed decision on who to lynch, derive information about players who were pushing or defending said player is beyond me. RNG provides nothing besides a place to shy away from responsibility.
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On February 26 2013 09:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Top scum read probably geript at the very moment. His candidacy for mayor seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Guaranteed mislynch from him as either alignment.
And what exactly makes him scum?
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Yeah okay that was silly of me anyway.
##Unvote
##Vote Wade Fell
*grumblegrumble*
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On February 26 2013 09:37 MilkSuckler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 09:35 geript wrote:
As of yet, no. The question is why do you feel my newbie status is important? Actually its the opposite. You become non-existent.
'pretty much how I feel right now.
See you D2 everybody!
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On February 26 2013 09:19 layabout wrote:lets kill wade for this: Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 09:08 Wade Fell wrote:
I'm sorry there's a possibility you are a newer player, so I will explain thoroughly: The mayor has two votes, and the runner-up for mayor gains a power that's basically only useful to mafia. We can't just go voting townreads. We have to have people state clearly why they are voting who they are voting for, and potential mayoral candidates must clearly outline who they will use the lynch on and why. Anything less is bad.
Yes, ideally you vote in the towniest player as mayor, but someone can be townie and useless. Mayor determines today's lynch. The idea that Mayor is irrelevant is one you should cast out of your mind as soon as possible. On the basis that it promotes a mafia agenda. The most important thing about the election is to get town into the two roles.
Let's lynch him because he's right?
It's D1, more like than not people are going to have town reads that are dead wrong. So when wade says "can't just go voting townreads", he's correct. It's pretty easy for scum to appear town in D1 - nothing's happened yet. It's VERY easy for people to accidentally throw a few votes on a scum member they think is town, and BOOM mafia has a pardon. Terrible fucking idea.
And wade's further concerns are also easy to understand (concerning the lynch candidate being tossed to 2nd place and then getting killed to get rid of the pardoner). It's extremely easy and common for last minute panic switches to occur. Hell, it was a leading detriment to Themed Mafia just a few days ago, and it's often as not lead by town as it is by scum.
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Hello. Everybody should vote me for mayor, I'm 100% correct on my first impression scum-reads for the last 2 years. That's an amazing track record.
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On February 26 2013 09:39 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 09:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Top scum read probably geript at the very moment. His candidacy for mayor seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Guaranteed mislynch from him as either alignment. And what exactly makes him scum?
I'm living in the moment here. I don't make anything of the WF JJ shenanigans yet. Got asked a question, gave an answer. Ask me about geript again in 23 hours, okay? Promise?
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On February 26 2013 09:33 Wade Fell wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 09:30 layabout wrote:@jji dont know him but calling "neutral behavior" "scummy behavior" is "scummy". It is ridiculous to talk about somebody's alignment being clear at this point in the game. [...] Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 09:30 Toadesstern wrote:On February 26 2013 09:23 Wade Fell wrote:On February 26 2013 09:22 JungleJorge wrote:On February 26 2013 09:16 Toadesstern wrote:
How likely is it that we can make it happen that we can get our lynch candidate come in as second in the votes?
We could get 2 flies with one stone that way.
Thoughts? That's a good idea if we could make it happen, but unless the person we are set on lynching is town, I find that unlikely to occur. No harm in giving it a shot though. I don't like the idea of sending a bunch of votes the way of our top scumread and strongly oppose this idea. well everyone knows that the guy is voted to be lynched. What's supposed to happen? A mafia last second voteswitch to make him 1st instead of 2nd? I'm perfectly happy with mafia outing multiple guys to make our lynchcandidate mayor instead lol. There's not going to be anyone who's like "well I want to lynch him so we should make him come in 2nd!" and 5 minutes later ends up saying "well I liked him as a lynch candidate but I like what he's saying right now, so let's make him mayor instead!"The only problem I see with it is that it is indeed hard to pull off and needs organization in terms of people knowing what's going to happen somewhat ahead of time. I've seen a LOT of last minute shenanigans in recent games on TL Mafia. It's a disconcerting trend and you would be amiss to discount the possibility of that taking place here, led by either scum or town. People are bad. Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 09:32 MilkSuckler wrote:On February 26 2013 09:29 Wade Fell wrote:
Milksuckler who are you lynching right now
is it layabout
why/why not Not lynching him. Its early game, we have only minute details to contemplate. With that in consideration I thought he did a decent job of a cock-block. I still don't like you; but the cock-block is a null tell. So Im lynching you so far, simply because I don't like you.Reads subject to change obviously Dear. [...]
yeah I guess. I thought about it pregame a bit and came to the conclusion that it's too hard to pull off and at the same time is restricting us timewise because we'd have to set on a lynch way ahead of time to make sure everyone knows what's going on, which basicly makes the day a 24h day instead of a 48h day. Wanted to see people's thoughts though and I don't exactly like your response to it unlike other ones.
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I definitely like Toad's idea of killing the Pardoner if we can pull it off. It's gonna be very difficult logistically though.
I'm definitely a slow reader so hopefully I can get some more of my thoughts in once this thread stops outpacing me, lol.
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On February 26 2013 09:39 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 09:19 layabout wrote:lets kill wade for this: On February 26 2013 09:08 Wade Fell wrote:
I'm sorry there's a possibility you are a newer player, so I will explain thoroughly: The mayor has two votes, and the runner-up for mayor gains a power that's basically only useful to mafia. We can't just go voting townreads. We have to have people state clearly why they are voting who they are voting for, and potential mayoral candidates must clearly outline who they will use the lynch on and why. Anything less is bad.
Yes, ideally you vote in the towniest player as mayor, but someone can be townie and useless. Mayor determines today's lynch. The idea that Mayor is irrelevant is one you should cast out of your mind as soon as possible. On the basis that it promotes a mafia agenda. The most important thing about the election is to get town into the two roles. Let's lynch him because he's right? It's D1, more like than not people are going to have town reads that are dead wrong. So when wade says "can't just go voting townreads", he's correct. It's pretty easy for scum to appear town in D1 - nothing's happened yet. It's VERY easy for people to accidentally throw a few votes on a scum member they think is town, and BOOM mafia has a pardon. Terrible fucking idea. And wade's further concerns are also easy to understand (concerning the lynch candidate being tossed to 2nd place and then getting killed to get rid of the pardoner). It's extremely easy and common for last minute panic switches to occur. Hell, it was a leading detriment to Themed Mafia just a few days ago, and it's often as not lead by town as it is by scum.
You put a lot of emphasis into this post.
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On February 26 2013 09:39 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 09:37 MilkSuckler wrote:On February 26 2013 09:35 geript wrote:
As of yet, no. The question is why do you feel my newbie status is important? Actually its the opposite. You become non-existent. 'pretty much how I feel right now. See you D2 everybody!
Come back WoS, I'll talk to you!
Any scummy (or even just sketchy) posts so far that jump out at you?
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On February 26 2013 09:40 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 09:39 Vivax wrote:On February 26 2013 09:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Top scum read probably geript at the very moment. His candidacy for mayor seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Guaranteed mislynch from him as either alignment. And what exactly makes him scum? I'm living in the moment here. I don't make anything of the WF JJ shenanigans yet. Got asked a question, gave an answer. Ask me about geript again in 23 hours, okay? Promise?
WF JJ?
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On February 26 2013 09:40 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 09:39 Vivax wrote:On February 26 2013 09:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Top scum read probably geript at the very moment. His candidacy for mayor seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Guaranteed mislynch from him as either alignment. And what exactly makes him scum? I'm living in the moment here. I don't make anything of the WF JJ shenanigans yet. Got asked a question, gave an answer. Ask me about geript again in 23 hours, okay? Promise?
If you say you have a read, you should have... an actual read.
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On February 26 2013 09:36 layabout wrote:
urgh do i have to keep reading his posts?
Toad, i want some sanity in here, are you sure your not running for mayor? It's not like you have bodyguards anyway...
very unlikely unless there's going to be mass smurf-slips. I'm a huge fan of lynching vets d1 and this smurffest is making that really hard.
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On February 26 2013 09:41 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 09:40 ObviousOne wrote:On February 26 2013 09:39 Vivax wrote:On February 26 2013 09:34 ObviousOne wrote:
Top scum read probably geript at the very moment. His candidacy for mayor seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Guaranteed mislynch from him as either alignment. And what exactly makes him scum? I'm living in the moment here. I don't make anything of the WF JJ shenanigans yet. Got asked a question, gave an answer. Ask me about geript again in 23 hours, okay? Promise? WF JJ?
Wade Fell and JJ
I've gotta launder my komodo dragon, I'll be back in a bit.
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