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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22417 Posts
February 26 2013 00:18 GMT
#361
On February 26 2013 09:17 Wade Fell wrote:
I really wish something JJ had said was scummy, so I could run on lynching him, but instead he's just a terrible human being. Someday archaeological teams will find a server hard drive with his posts and find us cruel, unthinking savages with ammonia in our brains and violence in our hearts.


Ammonium carbonate, it's in cookies, it eat lots of cookies. I'm also savage.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 26 2013 00:18 GMT
#362
On February 26 2013 09:16 Toadesstern wrote:
How likely is it that we can make it happen that we can get our lynch candidate come in as second in the votes?
We could get 2 flies with one stone that way.

Thoughts?


Do you mean so that we can get rid of the pardoner role and make sure it doesn't stay in the game?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
February 26 2013 00:19 GMT
#363
On February 26 2013 09:12 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:09 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:07 Promethelax wrote:
1. Vote for me, vote for RNG. I have a 1 in five shot at lynching scum and it will be hilariously awesome,

You gonna include yourself in that RNG dear


If I am allowed to lynch myself day one. Yes. I believe in true RNG.

Isn't that retarded as both alignments?
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 00:19 GMT
#364
lets kill wade for this:
On February 26 2013 09:08 Wade Fell wrote:
I'm sorry there's a possibility you are a newer player, so I will explain thoroughly: The mayor has two votes, and the runner-up for mayor gains a power that's basically only useful to mafia. We can't just go voting townreads. We have to have people state clearly why they are voting who they are voting for, and potential mayoral candidates must clearly outline who they will use the lynch on and why. Anything less is bad.

Yes, ideally you vote in the towniest player as mayor, but someone can be townie and useless. Mayor determines today's lynch. The idea that Mayor is irrelevant is one you should cast out of your mind as soon as possible.

On the basis that it promotes a mafia agenda. The most important thing about the election is to get town into the two roles.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
February 26 2013 00:19 GMT
#365
On February 26 2013 09:16 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:13 ObviousOne wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:12 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:09 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:07 Promethelax wrote:
1. Vote for me, vote for RNG. I have a 1 in five shot at lynching scum and it will be hilariously awesome,

You gonna include yourself in that RNG dear


If I am allowed to lynch myself day one. Yes. I believe in true RNG.

Tell us more how you plan to transparently execute your randomly generated mislynch!


I have a plan. It will be random and it may be a mislynch but it may not be. Vote for me, vote for a real RNG. Too often do scum have the ability to push the day one lynch into a townie, not with me as mayor. With me as mayor scum cannot control the lynch.

I just ran an RNG 0-24.

I got #4... Ohh sorry prome....Back to the real scum hunting pl0x

STARSENSES
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 26 2013 00:19 GMT
#366
On February 26 2013 09:17 Wade Fell wrote:
I really wish something JJ had said was scummy, so I could run on lynching him, but instead he's just a terrible human being. Someday archaeological teams will find a server hard drive with his posts and find us cruel, unthinking savages with ammonia in our brains and violence in our hearts.

He's only a bad human being because he never learned how to be otherwise.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22417 Posts
February 26 2013 00:20 GMT
#367
I agree partially on the irrelevance of mayor compared to LIX, two votes and one lynch, no bodyguards. No sheriff.

Mayor is basically nerfed.

VE, you here?
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
February 26 2013 00:20 GMT
#368
On February 26 2013 09:16 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:13 ObviousOne wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:12 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:09 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:07 Promethelax wrote:
1. Vote for me, vote for RNG. I have a 1 in five shot at lynching scum and it will be hilariously awesome,

You gonna include yourself in that RNG dear


If I am allowed to lynch myself day one. Yes. I believe in true RNG.

Tell us more how you plan to transparently execute your randomly generated mislynch!


I have a plan. It will be random and it may be a mislynch but it may not be. Vote for me, vote for a real RNG. Too often do scum have the ability to push the day one lynch into a townie, not with me as mayor. With me as mayor scum cannot control the lynch.


It's not a 1/5 chance of you hitting scum, because we don't know your alignment. Even if you RNG the lynch (if you're a townie), there's a 4/25 chance electing you lynches scum, because there's a 1/5 chance of you being scum. Nobody's voting you. You're bad. Stop it.
Politics is the Mind-Killer
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
February 26 2013 00:20 GMT
#369
Agreed
##Unvote
##Vote:layabout

Thats the type of insight im talking about!
Lets lynch this scummy duelist
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 00:20 GMT
#370
It looks to me that the best person for mayor is someone who is willing to:
A. put in the time to read the thread
B. both make and evaluate other's cases
C. is unlikely to be an early target for NK
In this regard I would nominate myself as I am more likely to devote more time to reading (both filters and filter in the context of the thread as a whole) than anyone else. Additionally, I am relatively unknown which removes untoward bias for or against me due to previous games as well as making me a more impartial arbiter as it regards established players.

My lynch platform is:
Scum read > hard/impossible to read > null read > town read

## vote geript
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
February 26 2013 00:22 GMT
#371
On February 26 2013 09:19 layabout wrote:
lets kill wade for this:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:08 Wade Fell wrote:
I'm sorry there's a possibility you are a newer player, so I will explain thoroughly: The mayor has two votes, and the runner-up for mayor gains a power that's basically only useful to mafia. We can't just go voting townreads. We have to have people state clearly why they are voting who they are voting for, and potential mayoral candidates must clearly outline who they will use the lynch on and why. Anything less is bad.

Yes, ideally you vote in the towniest player as mayor, but someone can be townie and useless. Mayor determines today's lynch. The idea that Mayor is irrelevant is one you should cast out of your mind as soon as possible.

On the basis that it promotes a mafia agenda. The most important thing about the election is to get town into the two roles.


Do you disagree with the paragraphs overall, or are you just cherrypicking a single sentence? Because, after all, I'm calling for people to explain their votes and mayoral candidates to explain who they're lynching in addition to people voting townreads. I know you're a smart guy, layabout, so you're not misreading me here. You're intentionally misrepresenting my claims. Why are you doing so?
Politics is the Mind-Killer
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
February 26 2013 00:22 GMT
#372
On February 26 2013 09:16 Toadesstern wrote:
How likely is it that we can make it happen that we can get our lynch candidate come in as second in the votes?
We could get 2 flies with one stone that way.

Thoughts?

That's a good idea if we could make it happen, but unless the person we are set on lynching is town, I find that unlikely to occur. No harm in giving it a shot though.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 26 2013 00:23 GMT
#373
On February 26 2013 09:20 geript wrote:
It looks to me that the best person for mayor is someone who is willing to:
A. put in the time to read the thread
B. both make and evaluate other's cases
C. is unlikely to be an early target for NK
In this regard I would nominate myself as I am more likely to devote more time to reading (both filters and filter in the context of the thread as a whole) than anyone else. Additionally, I am relatively unknown which removes untoward bias for or against me due to previous games as well as making me a more impartial arbiter as it regards established players.

My lynch platform is:
Scum read > hard/impossible to read > null read > town read

## vote geript

Except for the fact that you were killed N1 last game for the above reasons, by someone who is very likely smurfing in this game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22417 Posts
February 26 2013 00:23 GMT
#374
Geript, what makes you unlikely for NK if you fulfil A + B properly?

lol
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
February 26 2013 00:23 GMT
#375
On February 26 2013 09:20 geript wrote:
It looks to me that the best person for mayor is someone who is willing to:
A. put in the time to read the thread
B. both make and evaluate other's cases
C. is unlikely to be an early target for NK
In this regard I would nominate myself as I am more likely to devote more time to reading (both filters and filter in the context of the thread as a whole) than anyone else. Additionally, I am relatively unknown which removes untoward bias for or against me due to previous games as well as making me a more impartial arbiter as it regards established players.

My lynch platform is:
Scum read > hard/impossible to read > null read > town read

## vote geript

How about... "no"
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 26 2013 00:23 GMT
#376
On February 26 2013 09:18 Restraining Order wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:16 Toadesstern wrote:
How likely is it that we can make it happen that we can get our lynch candidate come in as second in the votes?
We could get 2 flies with one stone that way.

Thoughts?

As likely as the mayor is to do that, I'd wager.

Well the options we have are usually:
1) Vote the mayor and he decides the lynch on his own.

yes. That's all the options there usually are. The guys running for mayor are going to tell us their main reads / lynch candidates anyways and we could make sure to get make his/their reads come in 2nd.
On February 26 2013 09:18 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:16 Toadesstern wrote:
How likely is it that we can make it happen that we can get our lynch candidate come in as second in the votes?
We could get 2 flies with one stone that way.

Thoughts?


Do you mean so that we can get rid of the pardoner role and make sure it doesn't stay in the game?

Yes. I'm thinking about combining the lynch with getting rid of the pardoner by making the most likely lynch come in 2nd on purpose.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
February 26 2013 00:23 GMT
#377
On February 26 2013 09:22 JungleJorge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:16 Toadesstern wrote:
How likely is it that we can make it happen that we can get our lynch candidate come in as second in the votes?
We could get 2 flies with one stone that way.

Thoughts?

That's a good idea if we could make it happen, but unless the person we are set on lynching is town, I find that unlikely to occur. No harm in giving it a shot though.


I don't like the idea of sending a bunch of votes the way of our top scumread and strongly oppose this idea.
Politics is the Mind-Killer
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 00:24 GMT
#378
I also dislike the way he not-so subtly draws a link between "pre-prepared post" and being scummy.
On February 26 2013 09:05 Wade Fell wrote:
Make me the mayor. I'm a smurf, but I'll offer you a platform that should definitely convince you that your vote is best used to elect me. My platform:
1) Lynching MilkSuckler. Fuck that guy.
2) I will use my vote aggressively to push town agenda throughout the game. I am not afraid to write cases and lay down my vote. I am a serious person.

Now before you flame me, let me turn you around with this question: do you believe milksuckler had that post prepared before the game started? of course he did. Everything about that screams "pre-prepared post" which is fine if he's town but he wrote that when he didn't know his alignment. He could quite easily be scum.

Don't trust him. Lynch Milksuckler.

##vote Wade Fell

Writing something pre-game tells us nothing, but wade tries to convince us that it s scummy.

+ Show Spoiler +
The only thing scummy about it was that it was written by vivax in another game who is a generally notorious fellow or so i am told
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
February 26 2013 00:24 GMT
#379
[image loading]


I'm running for mayor. I'm going to be easy as fuck to read because I'm town. I have decent D1 reads generally speaking, and I intend to use this skill set to determine the very best lynch D1.

No BS. Elect me and town wins.

##Vote: VisceraEyes

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If you guys want more depth, you have to wait until after work - a little swamped. But no frills guys, I'm decent, I'll lynch the best candidate D1, me having 2 votes is going to be stronk
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 26 2013 00:25 GMT
#380
For the record, there is a voting thread. No-one but Toad appears to have noticed.
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