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Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
February 26 2013 00:26 GMT
#381
On February 26 2013 09:24 layabout wrote:
I also dislike the way he not-so subtly draws a link between "pre-prepared post" and being scummy.
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:05 Wade Fell wrote:
Make me the mayor. I'm a smurf, but I'll offer you a platform that should definitely convince you that your vote is best used to elect me. My platform:
1) Lynching MilkSuckler. Fuck that guy.
2) I will use my vote aggressively to push town agenda throughout the game. I am not afraid to write cases and lay down my vote. I am a serious person.

Now before you flame me, let me turn you around with this question: do you believe milksuckler had that post prepared before the game started? of course he did. Everything about that screams "pre-prepared post" which is fine if he's town but he wrote that when he didn't know his alignment. He could quite easily be scum.

Don't trust him. Lynch Milksuckler.

##vote Wade Fell

Writing something pre-game tells us nothing, but wade tries to convince us that it s scummy.

+ Show Spoiler +
The only thing scummy about it was that it was written by vivax in another game who is a generally notorious fellow or so i am told


Um, yeah dude you gotta call that shit out or people will see it as townie. They see a big post and are like "hey this looks townie" and if you don't call it out immediately it's bad. In fact, you're glad it was called out. You think it was a good thing, and you think me drawing attention to it was excellent. What's the deal, layabout?

On February 26 2013 09:25 Aquanim wrote:
For the record, there is a voting thread. No-one but Toad appears to have noticed.


Fuck da police

also fuck flood control

On February 26 2013 09:23 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:20 geript wrote:
It looks to me that the best person for mayor is someone who is willing to:
A. put in the time to read the thread
B. both make and evaluate other's cases
C. is unlikely to be an early target for NK
In this regard I would nominate myself as I am more likely to devote more time to reading (both filters and filter in the context of the thread as a whole) than anyone else. Additionally, I am relatively unknown which removes untoward bias for or against me due to previous games as well as making me a more impartial arbiter as it regards established players.

My lynch platform is:
Scum read > hard/impossible to read > null read > town read

## vote geript

How about... "no"


I guess you're good for something.
Politics is the Mind-Killer
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 00:27 GMT
#382
On February 26 2013 09:23 Vivax wrote:
Geript, what makes you unlikely for NK if you fulfil A + B properly?

lol

Being an unknown is likely to have some minor advantages, for example seeing if I can be manipulated and utilized instead of having to waste a night action on killing me. My posting style and case formulation is different than most which will likely make me a case target more than not.
JungleJorge
Profile Joined February 2013
Uganda104 Posts
February 26 2013 00:27 GMT
#383
On February 26 2013 09:19 layabout wrote:
lets kill wade for this:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:08 Wade Fell wrote:
I'm sorry there's a possibility you are a newer player, so I will explain thoroughly: The mayor has two votes, and the runner-up for mayor gains a power that's basically only useful to mafia. We can't just go voting townreads. We have to have people state clearly why they are voting who they are voting for, and potential mayoral candidates must clearly outline who they will use the lynch on and why. Anything less is bad.

Yes, ideally you vote in the towniest player as mayor, but someone can be townie and useless. Mayor determines today's lynch. The idea that Mayor is irrelevant is one you should cast out of your mind as soon as possible.

On the basis that it promotes a mafia agenda. The most important thing about the election is to get town into the two roles.

Although killing wade would certainly clear a bit of the thread of gratuitous obnoxiousness, I don't think his alignment is clear yet. You are certainly nitpicking part of his post and drawing your own biased conclusion about what he is saying. Are you sure you don't just want throw some suspicion on someone everyone already dislikes?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
February 26 2013 00:28 GMT
#384
On February 26 2013 09:25 Aquanim wrote:
For the record, there is a voting thread. No-one but Toad appears to have noticed.


Wrong, you did.
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
February 26 2013 00:28 GMT
#385
My new platform is killing Layabout

Read his posts

hes scum
Politics is the Mind-Killer
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 26 2013 00:28 GMT
#386
On February 26 2013 09:23 Wade Fell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:22 JungleJorge wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:16 Toadesstern wrote:
How likely is it that we can make it happen that we can get our lynch candidate come in as second in the votes?
We could get 2 flies with one stone that way.

Thoughts?

That's a good idea if we could make it happen, but unless the person we are set on lynching is town, I find that unlikely to occur. No harm in giving it a shot though.


I don't like the idea of sending a bunch of votes the way of our top scumread and strongly oppose this idea.

In the spirit of entertaining the thought, do you think it would be possible if there is one clear leading candidate? Such as someone ahead by more votes than the mafia team could possibly swing away to a secondary candidate? Or does the math not work in our favor for this?

For example:
13 votes for Candidate A (intended mayor)
5 votes for Candidate B (intended lynch)
At this point we could consolidate votes on Candidate A and then move several to B to ensure they are elected pardoner. This could take place after, say, 30-36 hours of the day is complete or something thereabouts.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
February 26 2013 00:28 GMT
#387
On February 26 2013 09:26 Wade Fell wrote:
Um, yeah dude you gotta call that shit out or people will see it as townie. They see a big post and are like "hey this looks townie" and if you don't call it out immediately it's bad. In fact, you're glad it was called out. You think it was a good thing, and you think me drawing attention to it was excellent. What's the deal, layabout?

Sounds like someone is overcompensating.

Its OK Wade, we just gotta piss with the dick we born with
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
February 26 2013 00:29 GMT
#388
Milksuckler who are you lynching right now

is it layabout

why/why not
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
February 26 2013 00:29 GMT
#389
On February 26 2013 09:28 Wade Fell wrote:
My new platform is killing Layabout

Read his posts

hes scum


Iamp?
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
February 26 2013 00:30 GMT
#390
On February 26 2013 09:28 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:23 Wade Fell wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:22 JungleJorge wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:16 Toadesstern wrote:
How likely is it that we can make it happen that we can get our lynch candidate come in as second in the votes?
We could get 2 flies with one stone that way.

Thoughts?

That's a good idea if we could make it happen, but unless the person we are set on lynching is town, I find that unlikely to occur. No harm in giving it a shot though.


I don't like the idea of sending a bunch of votes the way of our top scumread and strongly oppose this idea.

In the spirit of entertaining the thought, do you think it would be possible if there is one clear leading candidate? Such as someone ahead by more votes than the mafia team could possibly swing away to a secondary candidate? Or does the math not work in our favor for this?

For example:
13 votes for Candidate A (intended mayor)
5 votes for Candidate B (intended lynch)
At this point we could consolidate votes on Candidate A and then move several to B to ensure they are elected pardoner. This could take place after, say, 30-36 hours of the day is complete or something thereabouts.

(1) Pardoner sux
(2) Read Mafia LIX, 1 vote could have changed everything
(3) Top scum read and why pl0x
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 00:30 GMT
#391
@jj
i dont know him but calling "neutral behavior" "scummy behavior" is "scummy". It is ridiculous to talk about somebody's alignment being clear at this point in the game.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 26 2013 00:30 GMT
#392
On February 26 2013 09:19 JungleJorge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:12 Promethelax wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:09 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:07 Promethelax wrote:
1. Vote for me, vote for RNG. I have a 1 in five shot at lynching scum and it will be hilariously awesome,

You gonna include yourself in that RNG dear


If I am allowed to lynch myself day one. Yes. I believe in true RNG.

Isn't that retarded as both alignments?


Yes? But the idea of a random lynch is good. You should be able to see why. Assuming you don't suck, which I'm assuming.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 26 2013 00:30 GMT
#393
On February 26 2013 09:23 Wade Fell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:22 JungleJorge wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:16 Toadesstern wrote:
How likely is it that we can make it happen that we can get our lynch candidate come in as second in the votes?
We could get 2 flies with one stone that way.

Thoughts?

That's a good idea if we could make it happen, but unless the person we are set on lynching is town, I find that unlikely to occur. No harm in giving it a shot though.


I don't like the idea of sending a bunch of votes the way of our top scumread and strongly oppose this idea.


well everyone knows that the guy is voted to be lynched. What's supposed to happen? A mafia last second voteswitch to make him 1st instead of 2nd?
I'm perfectly happy with mafia outing multiple guys to make our lynchcandidate mayor instead lol.

There's not going to be anyone who's like "well I want to lynch him so we should make him come in 2nd!" and 5 minutes later ends up saying "well I liked him as a lynch candidate but I like what he's saying right now, so let's make him mayor instead!"



The only problem I see with it is that it is indeed hard to pull off and needs organization in terms of people knowing what's going to happen somewhat ahead of time.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
February 26 2013 00:31 GMT
#394
I don't know why you're all talking shit about a plan that would dissuade mafia from grabbing a "free" role, but to each their own I guess...
Don't let me stop you.
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
February 26 2013 00:32 GMT
#395
On February 26 2013 09:29 Wade Fell wrote:
Milksuckler who are you lynching right now

is it layabout

why/why not

Not lynching him.

Its early game, we have only minute details to contemplate.

With that in consideration I thought he did a decent job of a cock-block.


I still don't like you; but the cock-block is a null tell. So Im lynching you so far, simply because I don't like you.

Reads subject to change obviously Dear.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 26 2013 00:33 GMT
#396
On February 26 2013 09:28 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:23 Wade Fell wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:22 JungleJorge wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:16 Toadesstern wrote:
How likely is it that we can make it happen that we can get our lynch candidate come in as second in the votes?
We could get 2 flies with one stone that way.

Thoughts?

That's a good idea if we could make it happen, but unless the person we are set on lynching is town, I find that unlikely to occur. No harm in giving it a shot though.


I don't like the idea of sending a bunch of votes the way of our top scumread and strongly oppose this idea.

In the spirit of entertaining the thought, do you think it would be possible if there is one clear leading candidate? Such as someone ahead by more votes than the mafia team could possibly swing away to a secondary candidate? Or does the math not work in our favor for this?

For example:
13 votes for Candidate A (intended mayor)
5 votes for Candidate B (intended lynch)
At this point we could consolidate votes on Candidate A and then move several to B to ensure they are elected pardoner. This could take place after, say, 30-36 hours of the day is complete or something thereabouts.


You are assuming that scum has zero thread influence, why?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
February 26 2013 00:33 GMT
#397
On February 26 2013 09:27 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:23 Vivax wrote:
Geript, what makes you unlikely for NK if you fulfil A + B properly?

lol

Being an unknown is likely to have some minor advantages, for example seeing if I can be manipulated and utilized instead of having to waste a night action on killing me. My posting style and case formulation is different than most which will likely make me a case target more than not.


Dude you're a newbie, no one is going to elect you. It's the sad truth and it also applies to me. Look how Toad speaks of my post like of a "nobody's" post. The Toad King of McDonald's Krautburgers only sees us as shit

Any candidates you like so far besides yourself?
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
February 26 2013 00:33 GMT
#398
On February 26 2013 09:30 layabout wrote:
@jj
i dont know him but calling "neutral behavior" "scummy behavior" is "scummy". It is ridiculous to talk about somebody's alignment being clear at this point in the game.


using scare quotes is "good"

so yeah layabout here's what's happening today. You're gonna flail around a bit, I'm gonna get elected, then I'm going to lynch you. ezpz

On February 26 2013 09:30 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:23 Wade Fell wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:22 JungleJorge wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:16 Toadesstern wrote:
How likely is it that we can make it happen that we can get our lynch candidate come in as second in the votes?
We could get 2 flies with one stone that way.

Thoughts?

That's a good idea if we could make it happen, but unless the person we are set on lynching is town, I find that unlikely to occur. No harm in giving it a shot though.


I don't like the idea of sending a bunch of votes the way of our top scumread and strongly oppose this idea.


well everyone knows that the guy is voted to be lynched. What's supposed to happen? A mafia last second voteswitch to make him 1st instead of 2nd?
I'm perfectly happy with mafia outing multiple guys to make our lynchcandidate mayor instead lol.

There's not going to be anyone who's like "well I want to lynch him so we should make him come in 2nd!" and 5 minutes later ends up saying "well I liked him as a lynch candidate but I like what he's saying right now, so let's make him mayor instead!"



The only problem I see with it is that it is indeed hard to pull off and needs organization in terms of people knowing what's going to happen somewhat ahead of time.


I've seen a LOT of last minute shenanigans in recent games on TL Mafia. It's a disconcerting trend and you would be amiss to discount the possibility of that taking place here, led by either scum or town. People are bad.

On February 26 2013 09:32 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:29 Wade Fell wrote:
Milksuckler who are you lynching right now

is it layabout

why/why not

Not lynching him.

Its early game, we have only minute details to contemplate.

With that in consideration I thought he did a decent job of a cock-block.


I still don't like you; but the cock-block is a null tell. So Im lynching you so far, simply because I don't like you.

Reads subject to change obviously Dear.


Yeah there's 0% chance anyone should consider voting you for longer than like 3.5-4 seconds.
Politics is the Mind-Killer
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 26 2013 00:34 GMT
#399
Top scum read probably geript at the very moment. His candidacy for mayor seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Guaranteed mislynch from him as either alignment.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 26 2013 00:35 GMT
#400
As of yet, no. The question is why do you feel my newbie status is important?
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