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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 18:36 GMT
#990
I don't get why vivax made a big analysis post and then ended it with "i guess my analysis didn't really work". It served no purpose other than to demonstrate that he is putting in effort. If he had wanted to share his reads why not simply do so?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 20:49 GMT
#1038
ObviuosOne it should be obvious that if i want aquanim to be mayor then i think he would be a good mayor for town to elect. I want wade/bh to die though, i don't care about his alignment.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 20:53 GMT
#1041
I can support you as mayor Doc.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 21:13 GMT
#1050
+ Show Spoiler [Not game relevant] +
BH if anyone even suggests that your scum or disagrees with you you go after them aggressively and rudely. You often make personal attacks (though you mightn't think they are) that makes the game not fun to play. I remember i Igrok game where i don't think you were banned but you were out of order and since then i haven't wanted to play with you. (I don't think i said anything about it though. This game takes up to much time for us to treat each other like shit


Vivax why hassy over chaos bear?

And why don't you think we can do better than a lurker lynch when there were players you thought looked scummy?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 21:28 GMT
#1065
Vayesh is still BC, right?
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 21:36 GMT
#1071
Who would you kill vayesh?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 21:43 GMT
#1077
Do you want to kill vivax?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 22:14 GMT
#1102
2 of your 3 scumreads rely on the other one being correct?

I thought better of you VE.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 22:24 GMT
#1111
Wave do you not think it's suspicious that jcarl agrees that prom and vivax are scum when asked but otherwise ignores them or that his scum read was somebody that has adopted a troll-ish posting style?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 23:07 GMT
#1140
##vote DoctorHelvetica
He is a better choice than VE
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 23:12 GMT
#1145
On February 27 2013 08:09 Restraining Order wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 08:07 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:59 grush57 wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Anyone else, grush?

I don't like Milkman.

I agree with this

That milkman dude talks a lot of town atmosphere not much scum hunting.

I agree with this agreement.

we aren't even halfway through day1 and much of the time there hasn't been much say since it was so early or people have very short filters that don't reveal a lot
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 23:20 GMT
#1150
On February 27 2013 08:17 The Macho Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 08:12 layabout wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:09 Restraining Order wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:07 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:59 grush57 wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Anyone else, grush?

I don't like Milkman.

I agree with this

That milkman dude talks a lot of town atmosphere not much scum hunting.

I agree with this agreement.

we aren't even halfway through day1 and much of the time there hasn't been much say since it was so early or people have very short filters that don't reveal a lot

why are you defending him?

well i haven't demonstrated any scumhunting because i haven't felt able, there was a point a few hours in where people were giving "scumreads" as though it was meanful or helpful when it wasn't. I don't think him "not scumhunting" at this stage is particularly revealing. haven't even filtered him.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 23:55 GMT
#1154
On February 27 2013 08:23 The Macho Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 08:20 layabout wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:17 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:12 layabout wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:09 Restraining Order wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:07 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:59 grush57 wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Anyone else, grush?

I don't like Milkman.

I agree with this

That milkman dude talks a lot of town atmosphere not much scum hunting.

I agree with this agreement.

we aren't even halfway through day1 and much of the time there hasn't been much say since it was so early or people have very short filters that don't reveal a lot

why are you defending him?

well i haven't demonstrated any scumhunting because i haven't felt able, there was a point a few hours in where people were giving "scumreads" as though it was meanful or helpful when it wasn't. I don't think him "not scumhunting" at this stage is particularly revealing. haven't even filtered him.

i dont even.... wat just so much wat

i will be back in a bit

there are 2 pints here: 1)None of the actives are scummy so your left with a crapshoot into the lurkers. There isn't really much to go on them since they haven't been posting.
2)milkman has only really posted in the early part of the day iirc and at that point there was no real scumhunting to do since you would have to go off of very very little content
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 00:50 GMT
#1183
On February 27 2013 09:35 TestSubject893 wrote:
I've been working all day and just now got caught up on the thread. Here's what I've got.


Promethelax is still my top scum read and I will be voting for a mayor that wants to kill him. Jungle Jorge and ObviousOne, in that order, are next on my scum list.


I think we're placing a little too much trust in DoctorHelvetica. It seems like some people are treating him as nearly confirmed town, and frankly he's not even close to that in my book. Moreover, I'm afraid that should DrH get either of the elected roles, his perception as confirmed town will only be furthered, without him doing anything more pro-town.

Most of his cred has come from telling people they aren't scumhunting enough and how great scumhunting is, and while these things are pro-town, its not something that's hard to fake. On top of that, the only contribution he's made on the scumhunting front is to really amplify the pressure on Prome. While again, this is great, the fact that he seems to be distancing himself from it slightly in this post + Show Spoiler +
On February 27 2013 04:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 04:11 glurio wrote:
I think vayesh does make sense in what he posts. Yeah hes pretty much just prodding around but thats kinda what you have to do in the beginning. And he has found good points imo.

Jcarlsoniv do you believe prom and vivax are town? If yes, what makes you believe so?

Weird that you chose to respond to that specifically. Maybe not, maybe I'm being paranoid.

And yes, I'm still pushing Prome for the day. He basically martyred so he should die. I'm working from 1-10 PST tonight so unfortunately I'm not gonna be able to be here to push him. Since all discussion is built on this foundation of lynching Prome, it's the best outcome for us right now. At least for Day 1. I would never say to lynch for information, I absolutely believe he is scum but there is no sense in acting on hunches and getting distracted.

Don't fuck it up guys keep focused on the goal of finding scum. Everything else comes second.

is a little concerning to me.

I think it's likely that DrH is town, but lets make him prove that to us before we show him so much trust. Hopefully, we've gotten it right with Prome, in which case DrH will be deserving of the town cred he seems to currently have.


With the this in mind, I'm going to vote for someone who is going lynch Prome, but whose election I think will not stunt discussion and critique of the mayor himself.

##Vote: VisceraEyes

Why are you trying to make people doubt the alignment of somebody that you think is town?

And isn't the same thing happening for VE that you say is happening for Dr.h? People are treating VE like confirmed town too and him being elected might cause reads to be strengthened too?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 00:57 GMT
#1190
ObviousOne are these scumreads or you just pressuring inactives for no helpful reason whatsoever?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 01:01 GMT
#1195
On February 27 2013 09:57 TestSubject893 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 09:50 layabout wrote:
On February 27 2013 09:35 TestSubject893 wrote:
I've been working all day and just now got caught up on the thread. Here's what I've got.


Promethelax is still my top scum read and I will be voting for a mayor that wants to kill him. Jungle Jorge and ObviousOne, in that order, are next on my scum list.


I think we're placing a little too much trust in DoctorHelvetica. It seems like some people are treating him as nearly confirmed town, and frankly he's not even close to that in my book. Moreover, I'm afraid that should DrH get either of the elected roles, his perception as confirmed town will only be furthered, without him doing anything more pro-town.

Most of his cred has come from telling people they aren't scumhunting enough and how great scumhunting is, and while these things are pro-town, its not something that's hard to fake. On top of that, the only contribution he's made on the scumhunting front is to really amplify the pressure on Prome. While again, this is great, the fact that he seems to be distancing himself from it slightly in this post + Show Spoiler +
On February 27 2013 04:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 04:11 glurio wrote:
I think vayesh does make sense in what he posts. Yeah hes pretty much just prodding around but thats kinda what you have to do in the beginning. And he has found good points imo.

Jcarlsoniv do you believe prom and vivax are town? If yes, what makes you believe so?

Weird that you chose to respond to that specifically. Maybe not, maybe I'm being paranoid.

And yes, I'm still pushing Prome for the day. He basically martyred so he should die. I'm working from 1-10 PST tonight so unfortunately I'm not gonna be able to be here to push him. Since all discussion is built on this foundation of lynching Prome, it's the best outcome for us right now. At least for Day 1. I would never say to lynch for information, I absolutely believe he is scum but there is no sense in acting on hunches and getting distracted.

Don't fuck it up guys keep focused on the goal of finding scum. Everything else comes second.

is a little concerning to me.

I think it's likely that DrH is town, but lets make him prove that to us before we show him so much trust. Hopefully, we've gotten it right with Prome, in which case DrH will be deserving of the town cred he seems to currently have.


With the this in mind, I'm going to vote for someone who is going lynch Prome, but whose election I think will not stunt discussion and critique of the mayor himself.

##Vote: VisceraEyes

Why are you trying to make people doubt the alignment of somebody that you think is town?

And isn't the same thing happening for VE that you say is happening for Dr.h? People are treating VE like confirmed town too and him being elected might cause reads to be strengthened too?


My point is that I think electing DrH could be detrimental to the town if we don't take a careful look at our opinion of him and why it is the way it is. I'm only mentioning his alignment as it concerns him being elected.

But you think he is town so why spread doubt about him?

I get what your point is but you have no reason to make it since all you might do is dissuade others from voting in someone that you think is town.

+it would be far more relevant to talk about VE since he is the one that currently stand to be mayor and the one you voted for. Plus why don't you want people to look over their reads on him since he is being treated more like a confirmed townie thatn dr.h is.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 01:03 GMT
#1196
On February 27 2013 10:01 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 09:57 layabout wrote:
ObviousOne are these scumreads or you just pressuring inactives for no helpful reason whatsoever?

Who elected you to be the only one allowed to ask questions? I'm trying to get some answers here and you're shitting all over me.

You know who is scum? Layabout is scum.

Please respond to my post as if your not a child in a strop.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 01:17 GMT
#1205
I wanna lynch one of these tomorrow:
grush57
jcarlsoniv
The Macho Man
WaveofShadow
ObviousOne
vivax
Restraining Order

I would prefer it we don't lynch prom.

+ Show Spoiler [please don't respond to this] +
@Test you just changed my question in a stupid one and answered that
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 01:41 GMT
#1233
On February 27 2013 10:30 TestSubject893 wrote:
@layabout: If you don't want me to respond to something, why even post it? On top of that, if you think my response is invalid, why don't you want more explanation? Your last few posts directed at me have really rubbed me the wrong way. I'd like some explanation. Did you misread what I wrote or what? The way I see those posts you're picking a fight with someone just for the sake of it. And the most obvious explanation for that would be that you want to look like you're contributing to town, without doing much.

It's quite simple, you said you thought he was town. at the same time you tried to cast suspicion on him. if you are town then doing this is counter productive. it's also not very relevant since ve is the one who is going to win. So i wanted to know why you posted that since it tells me about your mindset.

I didn't want you to respond because i have nothing more to say on the issue and dragging it out serves no purpose.I posted because you didn't answer my question i did the same when others didn't answer my questions. Your response was also gave me information about you but i didn't feel like i needed any more with regards to that post.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 27 2013 01:47 GMT
#1236
On February 27 2013 10:38 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 10:37 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 27 2013 10:35 grush57 wrote:
lol obviousone, hahaha
Anyways, I said I don't like milkman.
Also Chezinu is even doing less than unusual so he can die too.
Too many lurkers really, I'm sure some of them are scum too.
However it is day 1 and with mayor lynch kinda hard to make reads ya know.
I'm even more useless on day1, and I usually pick up on the game as it progresses.

Can I have your opinion on Geript pl0x

When layabout doesn't jump all over Grush for that post I'm fucking CEMENTED in my read they are on the same team. This is BULLSHIT.

Maybe i have different expectations for you and grush?

also his post is better than yours since he doesn't pretend to be contributing and is likely right about scum hiding in the lurkers. Your post was just a pointless "look at me i am contributing" which is scummy.
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