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On March 01 2013 13:44 randombum wrote: I agree with the Dr.H's argument on toad. Additionally, he hasn't fixed reason why I didn't like him before he's still not doing much. Originally I thought he was just playing it cool to not die N1, and would unveil more about grush/scum on day 2, but so far nothing that I can see that benefits town. Why would you hit ve who proved himself malleable and willing to lynch the guy that got your teammate killed instead of the guy who caught scum in 2 hours and never once considered any other options
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And if toades wasnt scum I'd keep him around to push the mayor and his 2 votes into a mislynch
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Also if I'm not mistaken while arguing with others, people criticized his effort but never actually accused him and he jumps right into "everyone on skype says I'm town" which is borderline cheating by the way
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yay mod knows now 
hopefulyl 5-10min
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I wait with baited breath.
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If Chez is scum, why shoot the milkman then?
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On March 01 2013 14:27 geript wrote: If Chez is scum, why shoot the milkman then? My thoughts exactly. Milkman was supposedly his number one target but I would have shot BH without hesitation there if I was the scum dayvig and under the serious impression that I was doomed that day if I did nothing.
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Mod.. if a fake-dayvig shot is made.. will you notify us the action is invalid?
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Ok, so I rewrote this post like 5 times and changed my mind back and forth, and at the end of it all I ended up not coming up with as great of thoughts as I had originally thought I had when it was all coming togther.
I'll start with the basics I suppose. I agree with DrH on Toad. He's the top of the list for me. From there I feel like one of either Aqua or OO is scum. I was gonna write up some reasons on why its OO, but when I was doing that I kind of talked myself into thinking that its Aqua. After that grush is looking suspicious to me, but he's in that category of players where everyone talks about their crazy meta and how it needs to be taken into account and I'm not currently taking it into account, so take that for what its worth.
The bulk of my thoughts were gonna be about how when I read Chez asking the questions about the 3rd parties and claiming he didn't know how to add, I thought for sure he was a 3rd party just putting on a show. Because immediately after that WF jumped on him as scum I thought that he has the same read as me and was mafia trying to get the 3rd party lynched. This all still added up even after Chez shot if he is town because mafia wouldn't know for sure he wasn't 3rd party in the time in between.
When I was writing it all up I changed my mind on it. WF just isn't scummy looking enough to me outside of that, so I ended up scrapping it. It is something that really jumped out at me though, so if WF becomes the center of attention later, its something we could relook at.
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just by answering that question it would be an answer as to whether it is fake or not
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precisely.. better than sitting hiw playing with my dick for another 45min
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On March 01 2013 14:22 MilkSuckler wrote:yay mod knows now  hopefulyl 5-10min well if this is true then im gonna guess it was fake.
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On March 01 2013 14:34 TestSubject893 wrote: Ok, so I rewrote this post like 5 times and changed my mind back and forth, and at the end of it all I ended up not coming up with as great of thoughts as I had originally thought I had when it was all coming togther.
I'll start with the basics I suppose. I agree with DrH on Toad. He's the top of the list for me. From there I feel like one of either Aqua or OO is scum. I was gonna write up some reasons on why its OO, but when I was doing that I kind of talked myself into thinking that its Aqua. After that grush is looking suspicious to me, but he's in that category of players where everyone talks about their crazy meta and how it needs to be taken into account and I'm not currently taking it into account, so take that for what its worth.
The bulk of my thoughts were gonna be about how when I read Chez asking the questions about the 3rd parties and claiming he didn't know how to add, I thought for sure he was a 3rd party just putting on a show. Because immediately after that WF jumped on him as scum I thought that he has the same read as me and was mafia trying to get the 3rd party lynched. This all still added up even after Chez shot if he is town because mafia wouldn't know for sure he wasn't 3rd party in the time in between.
When I was writing it all up I changed my mind on it. WF just isn't scummy looking enough to me outside of that, so I ended up scrapping it. It is something that really jumped out at me though, so if WF becomes the center of attention later, its something we could relook at. ... What are you trying to achieve with this..
you know, someone (I think it was aqua) called you scum.
posts like that, are starting to make me think he was right
is there proper analysis in this.. or even a conclusion?
Waste of a read, as far as I am concerned.. (perhaps Im just pissed at waiting almost 2 hrs for this day vig claim)
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On March 01 2013 14:41 The Macho Man wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 14:22 MilkSuckler wrote:yay mod knows now  hopefulyl 5-10min well if this is true then im gonna guess it was fake.
If that claim is fake.. i really think grush should have punishment..
this is bullshit.. its effectively killed off town discussion for god knows how long.. a warning at minimum if my voice means anything.
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I don't think a newbie scum would make that post. He would just have made his post on OO if it was indeed real, I'm sure it would be worked on and approved in the scum qt. WIFOM but that's my 2 cents.
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On March 01 2013 14:42 MilkSuckler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 14:41 The Macho Man wrote:On March 01 2013 14:22 MilkSuckler wrote:yay mod knows now  hopefulyl 5-10min well if this is true then im gonna guess it was fake. If that claim is fake.. i really think grush should have punishment.. this is bullshit.. its effectively killed off town discussion for god knows how long.. a warning at minimum if my voice means anything.
I always figured by ##shoot he meant that he was encouraging the other dayvig to go shoot chez, like it was a call for him to be shot. Maybe I'm wrong?
Regardless - there's no reason to lynch Chezinu without a counterclaim or countershot, I'll take the lashing after this game if it turned out the only dayvig in the game was a scum dayvig but that seems really stupid to me. To give mafia a role that can confirm its own power without the town counterpart. Otherwise the inherent risk of the role (part of the balance) is gone.
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On March 01 2013 14:41 MilkSuckler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 14:34 TestSubject893 wrote: Ok, so I rewrote this post like 5 times and changed my mind back and forth, and at the end of it all I ended up not coming up with as great of thoughts as I had originally thought I had when it was all coming togther.
I'll start with the basics I suppose. I agree with DrH on Toad. He's the top of the list for me. From there I feel like one of either Aqua or OO is scum. I was gonna write up some reasons on why its OO, but when I was doing that I kind of talked myself into thinking that its Aqua. After that grush is looking suspicious to me, but he's in that category of players where everyone talks about their crazy meta and how it needs to be taken into account and I'm not currently taking it into account, so take that for what its worth.
The bulk of my thoughts were gonna be about how when I read Chez asking the questions about the 3rd parties and claiming he didn't know how to add, I thought for sure he was a 3rd party just putting on a show. Because immediately after that WF jumped on him as scum I thought that he has the same read as me and was mafia trying to get the 3rd party lynched. This all still added up even after Chez shot if he is town because mafia wouldn't know for sure he wasn't 3rd party in the time in between.
When I was writing it all up I changed my mind on it. WF just isn't scummy looking enough to me outside of that, so I ended up scrapping it. It is something that really jumped out at me though, so if WF becomes the center of attention later, its something we could relook at. ... What are you trying to achieve with this.. you know, someone (I think it was aqua) called you scum. posts like that, are starting to make me think he was right is there proper analysis in this.. or even a conclusion? Waste of a read, as far as I am concerned.. (perhaps Im just pissed at waiting almost 2 hrs for this day vig claim)
I promised to post some thoughts and this is the explanation of why I'm not doing that. Its not helpful, I agree.
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Also a far more effective bus would be for Chezinu to dayshoot Promethelax. ~Speculating
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On March 01 2013 14:44 TestSubject893 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 14:41 MilkSuckler wrote:On March 01 2013 14:34 TestSubject893 wrote: Ok, so I rewrote this post like 5 times and changed my mind back and forth, and at the end of it all I ended up not coming up with as great of thoughts as I had originally thought I had when it was all coming togther.
I'll start with the basics I suppose. I agree with DrH on Toad. He's the top of the list for me. From there I feel like one of either Aqua or OO is scum. I was gonna write up some reasons on why its OO, but when I was doing that I kind of talked myself into thinking that its Aqua. After that grush is looking suspicious to me, but he's in that category of players where everyone talks about their crazy meta and how it needs to be taken into account and I'm not currently taking it into account, so take that for what its worth.
The bulk of my thoughts were gonna be about how when I read Chez asking the questions about the 3rd parties and claiming he didn't know how to add, I thought for sure he was a 3rd party just putting on a show. Because immediately after that WF jumped on him as scum I thought that he has the same read as me and was mafia trying to get the 3rd party lynched. This all still added up even after Chez shot if he is town because mafia wouldn't know for sure he wasn't 3rd party in the time in between.
When I was writing it all up I changed my mind on it. WF just isn't scummy looking enough to me outside of that, so I ended up scrapping it. It is something that really jumped out at me though, so if WF becomes the center of attention later, its something we could relook at. ... What are you trying to achieve with this.. you know, someone (I think it was aqua) called you scum. posts like that, are starting to make me think he was right is there proper analysis in this.. or even a conclusion? Waste of a read, as far as I am concerned.. (perhaps Im just pissed at waiting almost 2 hrs for this day vig claim) I promised to post some thoughts and this is the explanation of why I'm not doing that. Its not helpful, I agree. Well, tell us your thoughts on Aqua. What exactly about OO made you think he wasn't scum? You need to show your work.
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