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Fun Times. This really sounds like fun Hiro. :D | ||
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On February 19 2013 05:55 Dienosore wrote: Hi guys, remember me!?  /in Set-up sounds like !fun! Hey Hey <3 :D | ||
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Cora is scummy for wanting to lynch rouge players and not actually scum, and in no way linking rouge play to playing like scum. Marv is also kinda suspicious. He seems too polite and that policy post had pregame written all over it. | ||
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You are scummy not scum. You havent done anything to change anyones opinion since the start of the game | ||
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And suddenly marv turns on the SERIOUS MODE. Its not scummy, its just not alignment indicative as oh good plan = town. | ||
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Well I was just saying that Yamato doesn't like half-reads. He expects a full 100% town read or a 100% scum read. Any reason why you care about how yamato likes his reads? | ||
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but I was given advice a while ago that if you go after multiple people, you never make ground on any of them, which means you are really hunting no one. I dont feel comfortable with this statement, cora is basically namedropping here to soft claim town. Thoughts? | ||
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Further, I overwhelmingly back my judgement on who mafia are and are not over yours, yamato, so the last thing I need is you running off playing the hero. This is polite. Chezinu rarely, if ever, starts coming up with his good reads during the first cycle. And we are electing a mayor in the first cycle. So yes, I am writing him off. Unless you have some hitherto unheard of method of reading Chezinu on day 1 that you would like to share with us? This is rude. | ||
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Its not scummy, its just not alignment indicative as oh good plan = town. In this statement, I meant that his policy post is not alignment indicative. I still think he is scummy, but that post isnt a reason why. | ||
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Unless you have some hitherto unheard of method of reading Chezinu on day 1 that you would like to share with us? This isnt rude in the sense that you are shitting on him for being a bad player, its rude in the sense that you are poking fun at him for having bad reads. | ||
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He is not really stepping up here, even in LIX he didnt run for mayor until half of the first cycle was gone. So therefore, I dont really think marv is helping town so far. So therefore he is scummy. | ||
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Also hapa get in the game, thrawn and marv just beat you to the exact same point. | ||
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Anyway stop discussing Marv, its getting nowhere. Acro do you have any reads? | ||
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And how is attacking vets a scumtell? He instantly threw doubt on Cora and started attacking Marv. Dieno dont sheep Acro, Why is this scummy? | ||
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Really thrawn? | ||
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I would like to see content from him though :D | ||
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Again he hasnt really done anything this game, like Iamp Acro is also somewhat scummy, cant really pin down what it is though :/ | ||
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Why are you defending marv? Do you have a town read on him? On February 25 2013 22:02 Acrofales wrote: Now I need to figure out whether you're just always this illogical and should just be ignored, or whether you make sense as town and this is a scum move Also calling me bad is not cool, especially now that you basically said I am scum or useless town, which means that you dont need to care about my opinions. This is scummy, because you want to discredit me and have 1 less townie contributing | ||
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On February 25 2013 22:12 marvellosity wrote: Pointing out that you're talking drivel isn't defending me, Oats. I dont see why he feels the need to point out that I am talking drivel when you can do it fine yourself. | ||
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Or am I just paranoid. No mention of Hapa in the last 2 pages by these gentlemen, Marv sets up a question in order to give a scum read on Hapa that is substantiated by another veteran in a way that is totally unsuspicious and it looks real good. Interesting. | ||
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Sheep much? | ||
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And If I think that hapa is town, what does it mean about my reads on you and Acro? | ||
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On February 25 2013 12:18 Hapahauli wrote: Fuck it that a town iamp response if I've ever seen one. Time to look into some other peeps. This is probably the quote that is really scummy in his whole filter. Its a 1-liner, how could you 180 a read off that, when its so fucking easy to fake? Also the way he so obviously switches targets is really odd. I think he is leaning scum for now, his activity is not that bad though. As others have said, Keirathi posted 1 post. And disappeared since. | ||
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Actually to continue on Keirathi, its really obvious that he hasnt posted and as far as I know, he isnt lurky as any alignment. So its not really alignment indicative, just slightly disappointing. | ||
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who is scum Iamp? | ||
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Iamp gets slammed almost every game for being too free with his town reads, I thought it was funny and I dont think he thought I was attacking him. What is the point of this post other than defend zare for nothing and attacking me for nothing? And giving advice? Its day 1, difficult to glean understanding of someones alignment if you only look at day 1 alone. Look and LIX, Marv pointed out me and Prp with META, its not useless and if used properly really useful. Also look at hapa and Thrawn, with the same info and different outcomes, due to their knowledge of Iamps meta, is a good point that could mean that one of them is scum. Or not. We will see. | ||
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Get off it Cora, it isnt helping. | ||
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Really? No if anyone criticizes my play BY CALLING ME BAD(heres the important bit) and not calling me scum, they are scummy as a result. Do you have any scumreads? | ||
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Am I scummy? Or do you just not like how I play? | ||
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Null? Town? not scum but not kinda townie either? The reason I am calling you scum, is that none of the stuff you pointed out is a scumtell. | ||
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Well currently I think you are scummy, because you havent really adressed any relevent issues in the thread at all, like hapa's weird 180 on Iamp, but choose to focus on me. Why? | ||
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What. Nice wishywashy statements saying that you dont want to commit yourself to one course of action, so you can still change your read when people tell you that you are wrong. On February 26 2013 01:31 zarepath wrote: seeding cases but not making them, then telling other people to quit asking you about them; lots of short posts that ask things of others but don't present content or arguments yourself. I can see scum motivation for all of those things. Why is all of this stuff scummy? hmm? | ||
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A case doesnt necessarily have to be 1. He is scum cause A why B why C why. But I would like to see some evidence of the stuff zarepath is talking about, with his own reasoning as to why he thinks that that is scummy. | ||
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Why are you not quoting syl? | ||
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On February 26 2013 01:54 zarepath wrote: Honestly, far scummier to me than either of these is Sylencia. While it's true our contributions are certainly in the same range right now, I wasn't here at all yesterday, while Sylencia was there right at the beginning and then disappeared. While he was there, all he did was stoke Cora's flames, speculate about a third party (because that's super helpful), and "interact" with Adam by mentioning some setup talk. It's true that others did a good amount of setup and policy talk at the beginning, but they went from there; Sylencia has disappeared and until he reappears, it looks very scummy to me in the face of what he DID contribute. Why is any of this scummy? What scum motivation does sylencia has by doing all this? | ||
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Although, I think that this is weird On February 25 2013 10:07 Sylencia wrote: Not mafia != town, could be third party as far as we know. I never even thought of third party for a minute throughout this game. Did you guys do? Is it a scumtell? yay more questions zarepath | ||
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People have lives and have to go do things. But he didn't say he was leaving, he was there for the beginning and bounced as discussion was becoming more substantial. This does not mean a THING, townies do it, scum do it. So zarepth, is me poking at you to talk more alignment indicative? Or im retarded and should learn how to play? | ||
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At least now we can be sure that you arnt scum | ||
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They are scum because either their meta is different from their town meta in a scummy way, or similar to their scum meta. Syl, your activity and contribution to this game has been lackluster at best, please step it up if you are town :D | ||
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I refused to elaborate because it was too early to actually talk about it, I needed more posts from marv to solidify that read as either town or scum. | ||
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I dont see why I need to elaborate when I am not trying to get them lynched YET. When I am confident in my lynch choice, I will push them as hard as I can. | ||
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We still have more than 40 hours though, no need to be hasty. | ||
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I am stupid and should read the OP. yeah I would be comfortable with thrawn dying at this point. | ||
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The thing is that EITHER of the them could pull the trigger, so assuming that one is town, one is scum, its gonna happen, scum are forced to duel cause if they dont, they are claiming scum and even 1 for 1 trades arent that good. Other thoughts? | ||
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This seems kinda like a mayoral lynch, except the mayor is scum, and its not instant lynch. | ||
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It just screams manipulation to me, like you are giving scum a way out of getting lynched, assuming the one we pick is scum. Currently I dont have another plan, but I just dont think this is a good idea. | ||
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Not good because generally my reads are not very good. Maybe this game its different? I dont know. yes I just discredited myself. But no lynch is definitely not happening. | ||
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What do you think of cora's plan Keir? | ||
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The upside isnt there for scum, if they are not under suspicion for not dueling. | ||
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I think that is why Oatmaster is so intriguing as well. Early pressure, then a complete 180 that was caught by multiple people. Seems a little off. Where is there a 180 Alderan? I said that there was no point pushing a marv lynch at that point BECAUSE IT WASNT GONNA HAPPEN. Is that a 180? What is the difference between Acro and Dieno's defending and what not? | ||
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Why even mention the other 13 players if you arent gonna draw any conclusions? | ||
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On February 26 2013 13:52 Alderan wrote: Now let's say he's scum. He's gonna pick someone who might seem scummy to the town, but guess what, we just voted him with a majority vote as our first dueler, and because of that he already has a significant amount of votes against him. Scum gonna jump ship and get out of the lynch? Opens them up to a lot of criticism, especially if we can figure out the pattern. I think this way gives us the most information and the highest chance of lynching scum. It's scary (or should I say scummy) that you don't see that. Wait what in the actual fuck are you saying? If I was scum, I would push lynchbait, then if I am called to duel, call out that lynchbait and try my hardest to lynch him. There is no benefit for scum to choose another scum, and at this point of time, there are enough scummy looking people that I dont think its difficult for a reasonably active scum player to push the lynch onto a townie. So we get basically no information. HOWEVER, later in the game, with less people, this might actually be a good idea. Why? Because by then, the scum would probably have to conjure up some weird reason if he is skating along, and BAM HE IS DEAD. Look I dont know what is a good plan to take advantage of this, but I dont really think that letting the scummiest player in the thread to choose his lynch target is a good idea. | ||
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Your post makes sense if its anyone but keir/anyone whos scum meta isnt lurking, although his return wasnt all that great. | ||
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The way you speak it sounds like you arent really happy with it? | ||
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Do you have town reads/scum reads on thrawn and keir? Or you think we are a bunch of stupid losers and that your reads are better but you dont want to push them? | ||
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Its like suddenly you are like 'alright, Ill do it, but im not happy', instead of 'I wont do it, this is why...' | ||
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If we decide on the duel candidates now, when most of the people arnt even in the thread, how does that help town? | ||
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uhuh. On February 26 2013 00:13 cDgCorazon wrote: 3. When I get home from school (in a few hours), I am going to re-read the pages with the whole go around between the TL veterans (basically everyone but the lurkers, me, Adam, Yamato, and Dieno). It's hard to follow because you guys just sit around and call each other scum/town based on each other's metas, which in all honesty is kind of pointless. Metas can change at any point, and players can use their meta from one side or another to conscientiously give others a town read based on their meta. Don't read too much into them (which I'm afraid you guys are doing right now). I'm not saying that all of it has been meta talk, but I've seen way too much meta talk thrown around. You said this, and your read on Syl is a META read. Well. So now what are you gonna do now Cora? Sit around and twiddle your thumbs? | ||
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YEAH ADAM BE A MAN. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THIS. so Adam, why are you playing differently in this game then in chrono trigger? | ||
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interesting. Do you play with Keirathi often? I never played with him before, but it seems to me like he didnt react to any of the pressure on him at all, maybe if he didnt acknowledge it, it would go away? Odd play for a townie. | ||
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I would like to say what hapa has to say about keir this game actually.. Yamato, what is your problem with Adam's decision? | ||
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Why is adam scum, and Keir town. GOOOOO | ||
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What made you 180 your reads so DRASTICALLY when you clearly professed to play the same way as adam earlier? Looking at your filter, it looks like the only thing that is making you think that adam is scum is because of his duel and WIFOM surrounding it. Is there anything different? | ||
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Did you not read the reason why Adam voted Keir? Or you read it and thought it was bullshit, what is bullshit about it? | ||
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Is Keirathi or Adam scum? | ||
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Lol. Someone getting feisty huh? | ||
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Adam: if you're town, you're a selfish douche who is not playing in town's best interest. I will reevaluate you, but I really feel like policy lynching you for playing like this. I will now fight my instincts, because I don't think policy lyncing idiots is a good idea, but that's the way I feel right now. I dont know Acro, this doesnt really seem like you think that Adam is scum. | ||
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I agree that Adam's meta is different from his scum games, and that this was a really stupid, but exciting thing to do, but isnt exactly alignment indicative. I also agree that him pointing out the meta differences HIMSELF and calling himself townie under not much pressure is scummy. So Adam is null, leaning town cause I think that this was kinda too obvious to do it as scum, what was the point? Keirathi. I havent exactly been enthused about his activity so far, its not really alignment indicative though. The few posts he has made make a lot of sense, and at this point I dont think he is scum. He pushed thrawn and adam, his comment about adam claiming that he was so townie makes sense and is a thing that I dont really think anyone else picked up on. Yes I 180ed on Keirathi. Why you ask? Because after a little break, and rereading his filter without being irritated by his disappearance, I like what I see. | ||
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Your meta read on Adam makes sense, along with the history lesson. | ||
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Anyway what are you gonna do about it zarepath? I dont think whining would help town. Are you saying that Adam and Thrawn are scum buddies? Or something else? | ||
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Anyway I will look forward to those reads. | ||
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On February 27 2013 00:09 The Macho Man wrote: Why would adam as scum initiate a duel? seem to me he was far from being the most likely to be called out. And the second smurf fail. ITS ONLY DAY ONE KEEP IT COMING :D | ||
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How did you get those numbers, looks way too random. I do not think that double lynching is the answer, because there is one less nightkill/lynch scum need to do to win. There arent 25 players in this game, there are 15 so we cannot be casual about lynches and killing someone to be 'safe' | ||
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Have fun :D | ||
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On February 27 2013 02:18 Hapahauli wrote: Thing is, Kei has done nothing to show me that he's town, and having played a couple of games with Adam, I find it really doubtful that he'd pull something like this as scum. Wait what? How many games have you played with Kei? You are calling Keirathi scummy for not playing to his town meta or his scum meta, but Adam is not scum because he isnt playing to his scum meta, or his town meta as Acro showed. How did you get this reasoning? | ||
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On January 26 2013 10:19 Hapahauli wrote: I've been playing TL Mafia for... 6 months I think? I coach newbie towns a lot, and I love me some mini-mafia games. Well I'm far from objective about my own strengths and weaknesses. In terms of a self-assessment though, I like to have a high thread-presence and get in the thick of things. Basically I'm town, I'm spammy, and I'll likely build 20 page filter by the time I get shot. In Normal Mini, you played for 24 hours and had a 3 page filter, here you almost played for 48, GUESS WHAT? Also a 3 page filter. Where is the high thread-presence and spammyness you are talking about? Also you seem to be posting a lot more freely in Normal mini than in this game. | ||
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So you want the thread to stagnate while we wait for adam and Keir to scumhunt? Or what else do you propose that we do? | ||
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The point is that they are both not playing to their own metas, but scum Adam has so much more to gain from this duel. | ||
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Keirathi has been doing absolutly NOTHING. And I want to kill him for being a bad townie. Yes I dont think he will flip scum, but come on, this kind of play absolutely kills town. | ||
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Or something else? | ||
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On February 27 2013 14:07 Sylencia wrote: You try to nail me last night for what you're doing at the moment, but worse because you're statement essentially says you're killing off what you believe to probably be 2 townies. If you believe Keir is town, you have no reason to try kill him. Even if he's bad town, he still gives us the numbers we need to stay further afloat vs scum. On February 27 2013 14:07 Sylencia wrote: You try to nail me last night for what you're doing at the moment, but worse because you're statement essentially says you're killing off what you believe to probably be 2 townies. If you believe Keir is town, you have no reason to try kill him. Even if he's bad town, he still gives us the numbers we need to stay further afloat vs scum. The difference between my post and his post is in the timing, he posted his response like 5-6 hours after the duel started, with barely any input by the duelers. My post is almost 24 hours after, Adam doesnt look like he is apologetic, or wants to do anything useful for town at all, even though he acknowledged earlier that it was a bad move. Keir simply doesnt seem to care. There is no conviction behind his posts and again, he is one of the lowest contributers to this thread, even though he is getting lynched. I dont think that Keirathi is gonna flip scum, but on the slight chance that he is trying not to draw flack for his play, I am in favour of lynching him. | ||
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On February 27 2013 15:38 Oatsmaster wrote: IGNORE + Show Spoiler + I dont like how Syl basically said that his behaviour was the same as Keir's in the game and therefore, that made Keir scummy. Dont Ignore The difference between my post and his post is in the timing, he posted his response like 5-6 hours after the duel started, with barely any input by the duelers. My post is almost 24 hours after, Adam doesnt look like he is apologetic, or wants to do anything useful for town at all, even though he acknowledged earlier that it was a bad move. Keir simply doesnt seem to care. There is no conviction behind his posts and again, he is one of the lowest contributers to this thread, even though he is getting lynched. I dont think that Keirathi is gonna flip scum, but on the slight chance that he is trying not to draw flack for his play, I am in favour of lynching him. | ||
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Snarfs, you should conclude that they both arent scum together, not that Adam is town or Syl is scum. | ||
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On February 27 2013 16:05 Dienosore wrote: Wait, hold on... Did I read this right? Quoting this for preservation purposes. like what is this for? Yamato, is there anything that you think that town can gain/salvage out of this situation? Or is it a lost cause already? | ||
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We have slightly less than 24 hours, what do we do now? Also I consider having a low amount of activity NOW a scumtell as there is no other reason to not be playing the game. | ||
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Like dont post random shit that is not necessary.. I am guilty of this too and will try to improve. Still pisses me off. | ||
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Why are you making a list of reads? Also thrawn, why do you want people to vote now? Its instant majority, I want to be sure when I vote. What is your reasoning? | ||
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I disagree with you about Alderan, he is town because of his opening list post right? Well that post really didnt accomplish anything. He only concluded that Dieno was scum, but made no conclusion/reads on the other players surrounding Marv, even though some of their activity mirrored Dieno or was opposite to Dieno. I dont understand why he made that post if he only wanted to target Dieno, other than to 'look' active. After that post, he has been utterly useless. Not good. | ||
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I wanted to see how keirathi and Adam played the night after, apparently you didnt need to. Being dueled in a situation like this, is kinda like getting red checked when you are town. You know you are town and you would fight to not get lynched right? Apparently keirathi doesnt really care. Adam is not a loose cannon, look at Acro's previous posts. He is calm and collected in most of his games. This game however, is different. Is that difference scummy? Or not. | ||
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Or you agree with all adam's reads? | ||
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Who is scum Acro? What do you mean we have bigger fish to fry? Im thinking Hapa is my strongest with Alderan close behind. | ||
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also double lynch? :D | ||
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You did a similar thing as I recall. | ||
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Ok if adam is town, WHY DID HE SAY HE WOULD DO THIS STUPID KIND OF LYNCH AGAIN? Also, he basically made us waste 60 hours. Is that town favoured? Or scum favored? Is his meta in anyway matching his town meta? Are the differences scummy? IMO they are. He knew that someone would pull the 'no point as scum' to defend him WHEN THERE IS A HUGE advantage to scum if adam doesnt get lynched. | ||
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Or do you have another reason. | ||
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What if I told you that maybe he was joking, that he didnt mean it? Do you know how suspicious that looks? He couldve just acted all apologetic but no, he didnt. What does this mean? That he is a stupid townie probably. | ||
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On February 28 2013 01:44 Acrofales wrote: Oh, dafuq. What is it with you people and your lack of reading comprehension Adam is an evil 3P who cares jack shit about the wellbeing of this town Keirathi is evil scum who needs to die Both must die. I will duel the next person who asks for my reads on adam and keir, because I hereby declare a policy lynch on people not reading the thread. Acro, if adam is an evil 3P who doesnt care about town, why did he duel scum and not scummy looking town? Its not like he didnt have plenty of options | ||
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How stupid of adam is that to post if he was not town. Utterly pointless. As town, he is pissed off at the way his duel has been basically said as bad. | ||
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On February 28 2013 02:02 Oatsmaster wrote: ##Vote: Keirathi. How stupid of adam is that to post if he was not town. Utterly pointless. As town, he is pissed off at the way his duel has been basically said as bad. Answer please :D On February 28 2013 01:44 Acrofales wrote: [/center][/big]Keirathi is evil scum who needs to die scumslip. | ||
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'I voted for that dude cause I wanted a mislynch' He pretty much 'claimed' 3P right there. Except nobody does that. | ||
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Im confused, you say he isnt stupid, which means he wouldnt have openly claimed 3P if he was actually 3P right? And he isnt scum, so THEREFORE HE IS TOWN. Now go lynch Keirathi. | ||
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Alderan, why were you so concerned that a double lynch was happening? There was still like 8-10 hours to go or more. Plenty of time to see a switch. Also, you pushed it so hard then when keirathi flipped town you were suprised? Like what? Then why did you push keirathi over adam SO HARD when you thought that they were both town? | ||
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The thing is, double lynch is basically no lynch, and you have to wait until the end of the cycle to see it happen. So therefore it looks really weird that you were pushing it so early. Not aware of the time being left is not much of an excuse. Its not that hard to check. Alderan, the problem I have with the way you pushed Keirathi, was that you wanted to see Keirathi die above all else, and if both of them are town, and you dont want a no lynch, shouldnt you just prefer keirathi to die, but if adam gets lynched too thats ok? | ||
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Sorry if that was misunderstood. Adam, why did he push SO HARD. and so early? | ||
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My problem is that you pushed Keir like a scum read, instead of a town read that was useless On the other hand he has offered absolutely nothing in the way of analysis, which is exactly why I said I would rather Adam live. It's not a complicated situation, I have townish reads on both, thus don't want both to die, if I had to chose it'd be Keirathi. The fact that we can't even choose who we want to kill because you've muddied up the waters so much with the fucking double lynch talk is absolutely asinine. Again here you dont sound really convinced that either one is scum, but prefer keirathi just a little bit. Your play later belays that sentiment, it reads to me like you really really want keirathi dead, when instead, you say you DIDNT want a double lynch. I would imagine that if you were going for damage control, you wont be so worried about it because you would find out when the lynch ended, and chill the fuck out till then . | ||
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b) I don't trust Syl to make the pick. I think Dieno should be the one to initiate the duel. Do you have a stronger scumread on Syl? Or something else entirely. Also On February 28 2013 06:38 Alderan wrote: BTW Thrawn I like your list. A lot. So why am I scum? | ||
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Hey Iamp I also think hapa has been really fucking passive this game, However, was it a bus on Keirathi? His reasoning was suspect and I dont really know :/ Again, however, his posts leading up to the lynch where he blasted Acro for saying Adam was 3P were pretty townie. | ||
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Hapa said keir was scum right at the start of the duel. But if keir showed up, it wouldnt take much for hapa to switch to adam I dont think. Anyway, if hapa steps it up, good. If he doesnt bad, and we can deal with him later. Acro, is double lynch scum favoured or town favoured? | ||
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Im not so sure that Syl is scum though :/ And hapa is null cause lately he seems like town hapa, not useless lurky scum hapa. | ||
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He doesnt do anything with his read on me, no questions no nothing. Most of his posting is saying how bad adam is but still a town read? Whats the point then? Like his precious time could be spent actually finding scum instead of throwing shit on adam. He tries very hard to justify his vote on adam when it was clearly a policy vote. So in essence, I dont know his reads, I dont know who he suspects and I dont know if he cares. His 'oats is scum' read on me is basically a summary of my filter, and it doesnt look like he really wants to find out who is scum. | ||
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So is Cora your only scum read? | ||
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On February 28 2013 05:44 gonzaw wrote: Night 1 ![[image loading]](http://www.google.com.uy/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=_VpKxypYqyM35M&tbnid=FYDykjMhnBRJJM:&ved=0CAgQjRwwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmfennwrites.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F01%2F30%2Foutsiders-3-the-man-with-no-name%2F&ei=jG8uUZK9D4Sy9gSEvoGADA&psig=AFQjCNHMpfHRw8HraoN5axHnmYsxGYYGQg&ust=1362084108300787) Keirathi the Mafia Goon has suffered defeat at the hands of Adam4167 + Show Spoiler + Mafia Goon As a Gang Member, you’ve come to Liquid ready to take part in one last big holdup. Do this job right and you’ll never have to work again. Unfortunately, before you can carry out the heist, you’ll need to get rid of anyone who may cause trouble.[REDACTED] As a reminder, you may not claim or refer to any of the flavor in this PM. You may claim/fake-claim your role name, any powers, and win condition. Votecount: + Show Spoiler + Duel 1 Vote Count Adam (2): Sylencia, Dienosore Keirathi(7): Oatmasters, Alderan, zarepath, cDgCorazon, yamato77, Hapahauli, Snarfs You have 24 hours to send your actions. now answer my question please :D | ||
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What are your scum reads actually? | ||
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On March 01 2013 00:38 Alderan wrote: So you did what any self respecting townie would do and try to get him lynched too.... You're making yourself look worse and worse bro. Do you understand the difference between not scum and town? Apparently not. Not scum = not scum. Could be 3P or town. | ||
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On March 01 2013 00:40 cDgCorazon wrote: Right now, Syl and you. However, I need to have another look at your filter to see if my read on you has changed since the last time. I will do that after school. No one needs a long post of my town and null reads. I just make scum reads unless asked for a town/null read. Um I didnt ask for a list. Lol. You do that Cora :D You seem to have something stuck up your ass, you need to chill out :D | ||
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On March 01 2013 00:45 Alderan wrote: Acrofails then urges everyone to kill them both, when all he would have to do to see if his 3p theory is right is wait until the selection period. TLDR: Acrofails tried to kill someone he knew was not scum, someone who had initiated a duel with Kier who he believed to be scum. Also the only way to see the alignment and role of someone is for them to FLIP. And for them to flip, they have to DIE. Also what is wrong with the final statement? | ||
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And his plan wasnt necessarily good, but how does that make him scum? | ||
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Like that doesnt really seem to be that weird of a play to me. Otherwise, there is nothing else that makes him scum Alderan, Syl was talking about 3p WAY at the start of the game, after that adam has shown that he hasnt played to either of his previous metas. 3P is a logical explanation and YOU CAN CATCH 3P due to their play. Read dessert mafia where wbg catches sloosh day 1 as sk. You are so out of the game right now, I think you are scum. | ||
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Acro wants to kill both, of course he doesnt want people to hammer. | ||
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He keeps picking up on points that look good out of context and saying that I am scummy because of them. His attitude is generally negative even though we lynched scum day 1. He doesnt really have any strong reads. | ||
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THIS IS SO CONTRADICTORY. DONT BE A FUCKING DICK AND AT LEAST THINK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE SAYING. | ||
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Do you think that dueling acro after the night is over will result in anything other than you getting insta hammered after seeing this reaction? | ||
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Cracking jokes left right and center. Here? Nothing, absolutly NOTHING. | ||
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You spelled 'I am doing a fucking stupid move wrong.' | ||
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THEREFORE ACRO's SCUMREAD GETS LYNCHED. | ||
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Understand now? There is no downside to this plan, only upside. | ||
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Dieno hasnt been here in more than 24 hours. | ||
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WHY DID YOU POST THAT ZAREPATH. | ||
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Adam did it out of nowhere. You cannot deny you felt a rush of like HERE IT GOES? Well I did. | ||
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It isnt enough to convince anyone but thrawn that acro is scum | ||
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I may or may not duel you, depending on how I feel about what you've done between now and then. 'I may or may not act stupidly, depending on whether you piss me off.' Uhuh yamato. Alderan is posting fucking useless posts which are basically ^^ Stop it. Its a scum tell. | ||
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Make a case on someone. Please. Unless you are scum. Then I couldnt care less. | ||
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Anyway. Dont fucking duel now. | ||
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As well as thrawn doing jackshit during the night phase. | ||
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Considering marv died day 1, not likely to be a medic. | ||
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Also that was an obvious gambit by yamato, unless its not a gambit? | ||
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Alderan. Acro is under absolutely no pressure right now. He is not gonna get lynched in the near future, and as town, is a very important player. | ||
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On March 01 2013 06:06 Alderan wrote: I am sick of fucking repeating myself to you. I won't do it again. Read my filter if you can't find. You're not providing any worthwhile input so I'm not going to waste my time explaining things to you. Lets start with this. However, you posted just an hour or two earlier that Dieno was your only strong scum read. So what changed? On March 01 2013 05:13 Alderan wrote: I didn't say you were scum did I.... I've made my case on Dieno, thats who I'd like to lynch. I'm not going to post my cases on others when they are not as strong as that one. I don't see you providing any high level analysis, but I've just gotten used to it from you. Lets see your 'case' on Dieno ok? On March 01 2013 00:56 Alderan wrote: As for the duel today, I'll extrapolate a bit on my reasoning behind a Syl and Dieno. First, and I'm making no bones about it, I think Dieno is scum, and unless he starts providing some worthwhile analysis my mind won't be changed. Second, and this is pretty WIFOMy but it would make sense for scum to spread out all their votes. I expect one of the two left on Adam to be scum. Just about nothing here. On March 01 2013 03:05 Alderan wrote: Dieno I want you dead. I think you're the scummiest person in the thread by far. Convince me otherwise. Nothing here, On February 26 2013 07:13 Alderan wrote: Here we go. I don't like Deinosore's filter in the least. Check out this rampant pandering. If you had to set up a first post that didn't step on anyone's toes, this would be the template. Multiple topics, wishy wasy attitude, no hard stances on anything, and of course "finish with a question". I mean, I could go post by post and show you examples of inefficient town play but I'll just show you examples from his most "productive post" + Show Spoiler + On February 25 2013 16:24 Dienosore wrote: I've cooled off a bit on Adam. If he still wants to get some, I'm here to call his bluff, but I think our time is better spent looking at a few other people right now. His level of activity is about 10x's what I have seen in past games already. The connection between Marv and Snarf has me puzzled. I don't know what to make of it. Marv has heat coming in from a few directions, which is understandable considering how he has played so far, but Snarf on the other hand... he started off posting strong, boldly claimed towny, then kind of fell off the planet when people started agreeing with his policies. Seems fishy to just dump out like that after everything started agreeing and the spotlight was moved away. Secondly, Oatsmaster jumped into the conversation a bit late, but the way he did it has me a little suspicious. He instantly threw doubt on Cora and started attacking Marv. He hasn't said anything super incriminating yet, but he is definitely on my 'To Watch' list. Overall, there just really isn't enough info yet for me to be 100% about any read. I'm not even going to pretend I'm that good at mafia after two games to where I can call people out like that on day one. I definitely have a few suspicions, though I don't really see a reason to muddy up the waters with my speculation right now. The key themes that hes trying to get across to you are as follows: - He is not good at this game. - No one is talking enough to know anything. - Let's not jump to conclusions. But here's the kicker- "I don't really see a reason to muddy up the waters with my speculation right now". Yeah, let's not use time to discuss our scum reads.... let's keep them to yourself so you don't get any unwanted attention..... Great plan. Between this and the "my diagrams aren't ready" defense he's set himself up to lurk for the next three weeks. Oh and don't forget..... + Show Spoiler + On February 25 2013 16:29 Dienosore wrote: How about yourself, Yamato? Anything worth sharing right now? Always finish with a question. This is ok. But you never follows up and your reasoning for your read never gets mentioned more than once again. You never even talk to dienosore about ANYTHING On February 26 2013 13:35 Alderan wrote: Dienosore- Got you.I fucking got you. And this ladies and gentlemen is why I do this kind of analysis and why I will be the most invaluable townie. "I've already mentioned that I trust you. If you sincerely believe that he isn't scum" That really should be all you need, but look closer, every single one of his posts have something to do with Marv, and how Marv is taking heat, and how he doesn't think that's right. Perfect cover, all he has to do is lurk around, drop a few "I <3 Marv" bombs and hope Alderan didn't catch you. Well I did. And Dienosore is scum. This is really really weak. Dienosore played with marv in every single game so far, maybe he respects marv a lot? Who knows. Anyway you never mention this again either. you Just keep saying KILL DIENO KILL DIENO. About acro being a scumread. This is the only substantial post about Acro On March 01 2013 00:45 Alderan wrote: So this is what happened. Acrofails first thinks both have a good chance of being scum. Acrofails then thinks that one is "not scum" Acrofails then assumes that the person that dueled someone he believed was scum must be a 3rd party, with no evidence. Acrofails then urges everyone to kill them both, when all he would have to do to see if his 3p theory is right is wait until the selection period. TLDR: Acrofails tried to kill someone he knew was not scum, someone who had initiated a duel with Kier who he believed to be scum. In which there is no reasoning. So why is Acro scum Alderan? | ||
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You just posted this a page earlier. On March 01 2013 05:58 Alderan wrote: Oats are you on drugs? And I'm not talking about party drugs. I'm talking about sketchy drugs. Acro's actions have been pretty scummy and suspicions are gaining traction. If you can't see that you're delusional So Acro isnt really scummy now? On March 01 2013 06:06 Alderan wrote: I am sick of fucking repeating myself to you. I won't do it again. Read my filter if you can't find. You're not providing any worthwhile input so I'm not going to waste my time explaining things to you. This implies that you think that Acro is scum and you said it in your filter. Which you didnt. Also I have a hard time looking for your second scum read. Who is it and why? | ||
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This implies that you think that Acro is scum and you said it in your filter. Which you didnt. EBWOP: And you said why in your filter. | ||
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On March 01 2013 06:29 Alderan wrote: That post is only reasoning. I'm not coming to any conclusions, I'm just stating for everyone exactly what Acro did, and how anti town it was. That post is a SUMMERY. Reasoning includes opinions, that chunk of words is FACTS. You are a native english speaker? Or not? | ||
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My apologies. Ok I think you are town and that we should stop fighting :D Unless Dieno flips town. Then you and acro are under serious scrutiny. | ||
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On March 01 2013 12:33 Dienosore wrote: I wanted to quote that because he basically says he is in favor of lynching someone he didn't think was scum. Smells super fishy to me and I'm surprised you guys just basically brushed it under the rug. So you found something scummy, didnt ask me, didnt do ANYTHING with it and expected someone to make your case for you? What is the status of your read on me? | ||
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Who is scum snarfs and why? You have been not involved in this game and town needs you. Unless you are scum. :D | ||
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It looks like you dont want to back down and call me townie because it draws attention to you for a '180' ##Vote: Dienosore. | ||
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Dienosore, do you think the prodding is useful or useless? Well, to start off with, you attacked marv, who I was pretty sure to be town, for little reason at the beginning of the game. Called him scummy and suspicous. This immediately raised my eyebrows. Why is someone attacking your town read scummy? Guess everyone is scum for attacking Acro then. Then you have this that looks like you are trying to make an excuse to duel someone and be able to get away with murder This is so out of context that it is funny. What happened is that Cora hatched a plan where the scummiest person in the thread would duel a person of his liking. I didnt agree. He asked me then how would we prevent no lynch from happening. I gave this suggestion. Is it scummy? No. | ||
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Kept waiting for him to slip up, but he never did, so I had no real reason to distrust him. So you wanted a reason to call him scum huh. Who does that? scum. Plus the guy basically just outlined the gameplan for us, handing us the keys to an easy towny victory. Setup discussion is not alignment indicative and that seems to be what you are giving marv a town read. | ||
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The reason why its not alignment indicative is because anybody, town or scum could do it convincingly. Its just facts not opinions. It does not make him town because it is helpful. | ||
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- His filter shows little effort from him in finding out the scum, but instead he relies a lot on everyone else by asking them questions repeatedly. Um lol? Im asking people why they think someone is scum. Scum have a hard time providing reasoning unless its a bus because they know that the person is actually town. | ||
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IMO he has only gotten townier. I would like to hear you about it though. | ||
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Lol... So Hapa bussed keir? Like what does that say about his alignment. | ||
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Why not push adam and try to get him lynched? | ||
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Thrawn has been utterly useless :/ I would like to see the outcome of this lynch and the nightkill before putting up further reads. | ||
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The whole game you seem to be waiting for someone to make the case for you. Why? Why dont you just push the double lynch? How come this double lynch is not scum favoured? | ||
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Also you clearly have scum reads on both, by saying that today's double lynch was more worthwhile. So if they are worthwhile, why arent you pushing the double lynch? | ||
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This is not about deciding the next duel, this is about who else is scum. | ||
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Why Syl again though thrawn? I think his posting really improved, same with Hapa. [QUOTE-Two people get pressured to duel each other, because they are the scummiest in the thread. -Syl is hesitant to duel, and would rather duel his top scumread, Corozon -Dieno is eager to duel, on the basis that syl is warming up to the idea of dueling dieno Dieno's read on syl comes from nowhere. He's just doing this because we told him to, not because he cares about lynching scum when means we should lynch him. [/QUOTE] Thrawn, this post makes it seem like they are different alignments, like because of how things turned out, and their behavoir, that they arent the same alignment. I would like to see you go up at this point thrawn. I <3 Dieno, better luck next game :D | ||
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-Two people get pressured to duel each other, because they are the scummiest in the thread. -Syl is hesitant to duel, and would rather duel his top scumread, Corozon -Dieno is eager to duel, on the basis that syl is warming up to the idea of dueling dieno Dieno's read on syl comes from nowhere. He's just doing this because we told him to, not because he cares about lynching scum when means we should lynch him. | ||
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Thrawn who is scum? | ||
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How is syl scum with Dieno? That is the thing im struggling with. It does not make sense to put them both up because there is no upside for scum other than 'town cred'. Which is never gonna happen, especially with a player as scummy as Syl. That said, I would like to see reads from Sylencia. | ||
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I dont think that scum wouldve felt that way. At all. Think about it. If you were in the scumteam. You woud think of, hey lets put up our 2 scummier players and let the scummiest one initiate the duel. Hopefully they dont double lynch or still think that Syl is scummy after it. Doesnt make sense right? With probably half the scum team gone, association cases are valid. | ||
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On March 02 2013 13:36 thrawn2112 wrote: I know it's night and you're not supposed to talk about town reads at night, but idc. Think of this game like there are no night cycles, and mafia has dayvigs. Town adam, Acro, Aldeeran, Corazon, yamato, Oats WTF Hapa, Snarfs Mafia zare, syl For all of you asking why syl could be mafia..... well why not? The entire thread was screaming for them to duel each other, do you really think that two scum won't duel each other if you yell at them enough? And Syl's play has definitely not improved during the duel. In fact dieno probably put more of an effort in once the duel started. Syl still doesn't have reads.... etc. Just read any page of Cora's filter and you will get a good idea of why lynching syl is stilla good idea. Hapa is who I'm gonna look at next. He half assed his choice between syl/dieno. He did say he would lynch dieno if it was just one, but that he wanted to wait and see what dino/syl produced. But no, hapa has not been in here judging either of their play. After taking the most neutral stance possible, he afk'd from the rest of D2. so yeah... as I'm writing this, hapa probably belongs in the mafia group. need to go through his filter first. Snarfs.... I know almost nothing about his filter off the top of my head, but I remember having a town read on him last time I bothered to go through his stuff. Thrawn, why the fuck is Zare big and red and there is more mention of Hapa, a null read than him. In fact there is no mention of Zare at all here. Why? | ||
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What is the upside of this plan? It doesnt make syl look better with the way he played, it doesnt make you better(possibly), and a scum would definetly get lynched. There is no upside. | ||
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Answer the fucking question Cora. Thrawn, I am leaning town on you, scum on hapa because hapa disappeared. Again. Zare is scummy for me from what I can remember, gonna filter people after the nightkill. My problem with that list post is that you mentioned all the people who werent town, except Zarepath even though he is your top scumread. | ||
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Has his play improved since we put him up for lynch and asked him to show us he's town? No..... not at all. Other than the dieno flip, someone show me 1 townie thing about syl. This is exactly why Syl is town. Do you think as scum dueling with his scumbuddy he says, 'fuck it I dont care anymore'? Really? Actually the only way Syl is scum is if they expected to get Dieno out. So look for people who wanted syl dead. | ||
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And at the top thrawn2112: scum Hapahauli: I think he is null cause bla bla bla. ... .. This is what you did. And it doesnt make sense to do that right? | ||
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I agree. In light of way the duel played out, however, I think that Syl is town. Also if you cant think of an upside to 2 of them dueling as scum, means that there isnt one. So scum wont just 'give up' the game. | ||
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I need to look at normal mini IV though. His most recent scum game. Cora, the reason he wouldnt give up as scum is because that means he LOSES the game. As town, he is one of many, and isnt the sole or even main reason town loses. Cora you arent making sense now. You didnt address my association at all and just keep harping that he is scummy and therefore he is scum. | ||
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Anyone who isnt Acro/Cora/Thrawn want to chime in whether they think that Syl is still scum? | ||
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Also where did Zare go? Why so many people disappearing. | ||
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What is there to elaborate on though? My read on yamato is that he seems to be doing some insanely stupid stuff. Which is a towntell for him. He doesnt do stupid stuff as scum. However, you bring up a good point about yamato basically 180ing his read. | ||
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Im leaning scum probably, I would like to see the rest of your case and yamato's response. Mainly his response though. | ||
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I dont think Syl is scum. So therefore I dont want to lynch him or double lynch yesterday. Keep in mind you are the ONLY person who has a scum read on Syl. Also you said this earlier On February 25 2013 09:38 cDgCorazon wrote: Yamato, why are you saying that we should all trust your scumhunting skills and let you duel everyone we think is scum, and then turn around and say that town will not always comply to everything that is said. You were being so stubborn on the fact that others don't want you to go gung-ho and do all of the scumhunting for us, and now you are being stubborn on the fact that Marv's plan relies on town being compliant. Doesn't town compliance work in the same what for your desired approach to the game as well? Which is applicable to the current situation. | ||
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Although can you say he has not been helpful to town and basically looking like a townie? I dont think he is the right lynch for tomorrow, there are scummier people. | ||
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Adam suddenly whipping out the killer game huh. :D Please dont flip scum. | ||
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Do you think either of them is scum/town/3P? | ||
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Seriously Yamato, what are you doing? | ||
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So dont do it. | ||
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I would like to lynch Zare and Yamato today. Double lynch cause they are both scum. Also I dont think its useful to read off the nightkill. Thrawn was never gonna get lynched and that is a perfectly good reason to kill someone. | ||
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Why didnt you wait for hapa to respond? | ||
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On March 04 2013 00:33 cDgCorazon wrote: My post about Acro and Yamato has about a hundred times the scum hunting you've done in both this game and NMM 37, so I think it is your turn first. No, your reads since you are here. What benefit does town get by you withholding your reads because you want to piss off syl? | ||
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I wish people would just come in and hammer this so we dont have to waste time on this lynch. Zarepath, oh wow, is not an appropriate reaction. Who is scum between Yamato and Hapa? | ||
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So yamato isnt scum, is Hapa scum? | ||
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Look at Yamato's case, he is twisting Hapa's reasoning. Hapa wanted a double lynch, Yamato expected Hapa to vote for a candidate. Blatantly wrong. Also his really random defense of Snarfs is not what I think a townie would do. There is no point, there was not much pressure on him anyway. | ||
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Although I realize now that its not all bad, useful discussion can still be obtained. I was just pissed off at yamato for doing what we blatantly said not to do and what he criticized Adam for in the first duel. ##Unvote | ||
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Why is that so Acro? | ||
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Lets give him his wish and lynch him. | ||
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Still doesnt tell me why Hapa is scum. Hapa's vote on Keir at the start of Adam's duel makes absolutely no sense as scum. Why would you try to stop the quickly forming mislynch? Also Yamato hard pushed you n2/3 and seems to think you are confirmed town now. Why? I dont know. He keeps harping on the fact that his meta is different from the last scum game he played. | ||
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Firstly he started this duel basically on his own, which he blasted adam for. Secondly. My vote on Keir was a weakly justified one, because I really just wanted to push a lynch through, but would I have pushed the Keir lynch through for the sake of lynching someone if I was mafia with him? Did he really do anything to get either of Keirathi or Deino lynched? Not really. Sure, he had a vote, but did he ever come in the thread and try to convince people to vote with him? No. Did I? Yeah. Contradiction CITY. This is the only stuff he posted about Deino after the duel had been initiated. On March 02 2013 01:01 yamato77 wrote: ##Vote Dienosore You guys are most likely right about him, and I feel like Sylencia is most likely town of the two. While lurky and useless is Syl's town meta, it is not Dieno's so he can die. As a side note I'm pretty sure Hapa is mafia, now, and much less sure of Acro. On March 02 2013 05:29 yamato77 wrote: I don't think we're going to get much earth-shattering information out of this duel at this point. Dieno needs to die. If he's not mafia, I will personally be surprised at how little effort he has put into this game. So he didnt push either Dieno or Keirathi in any substantial way, which is what he claimed he did. | ||
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Yamato is picking sensible fights? Like with who? Also he basically lied about his activity around the scum lynches so far. He did NOTHING in the Dieno lynch, and hopped around alot in the Keirathi lynch and only wanted to lynch him after the momentum shift. | ||
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Or yamato/acro. Am I scummy for defending Hapa? It looks like the only reason that people have for calling hapa scum is that his activity has not been like his normal town games. Which isnt all that strong. | ||
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Ive done it as town, never done at as scum cause it looks bad. | ||
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You know what this means Acro? That if Hapa flips town you are scum, with a high probability. | ||
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There was no mention of him dueling at all. Even though Hapa 'pushed' him. Actually Hapa didnt push keir at all now that I look back, he has just been really passive and didnt really try to stop the adam mislynch, just voted for Keir and peaced out. Also his vote was made in a way so that he could switch really easily. The strongest point against hapa is meta. As scum your activity drops like a stone and its clearly evident with hapa. The difference is too stark. | ||
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We are not going to double lynch. Probably. | ||
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Also if Hapa flips scum, you arent. Why do you want to waste your vote? | ||
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Hammer him someone. Seriously. | ||
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Ok the reason Hapa is scum is cause he didnt want to bus Keir, so he placed a fluffy vote on Keir dependant on the activity of keir. Then he fucks off and hopes that Adam gets lynched. So its not a bus, but it is scum like behaviour. Same with Dieno. He just threw out his suspicions but never actually bothered to push them or anything. Also How is it not obvious that his meta is so different and that makes him scum? He hasnt shown up in a while and that is disturbing to say the least . | ||
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Look at british mafia 2. How active is he there as compared to here? | ||
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I am confident that Hapa is gonna flip scum. Alderan I dont think is scum, same with Snarfs. Zare I wouldnt mind seeing go up. | ||
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Only us SEA/Aus people around now except yamato. Why is it wrong if we want to kill zarepath tomorrow? | ||
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Do you think that Hapa is town? | ||
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It was a leading question, sorry. | ||
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Good lynch Yamato. :D Although I would have preferred if you had waited a few hours. | ||
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Easy. There is no way scum let this go by without a fight. | ||
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Who is the last scum? | ||
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So why are you trying to 'redeem' yourself? Go find someone scummier than you if you are town please :D | ||
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So I voted for hapa cause I was convinced. Also I realized that Yamato was probably trigger happy town like Adam(hopefully) | ||
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Go make a case/argument on why I am scum then, instead of sniping like 1 suspicous quote. | ||
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Well I read acro's case, and realised that yes Hapa's activity matches up with 3 of his scum games, and doesnt match up by a FAR margin with his town games. So in this case, Hapa's activity meta is a big deal and a clear scumtell for him. So I changed my vote. | ||
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Thats like an offensive gg. BM Yamato. Is his 'afk'ness the only reason you are calling him scum? | ||
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Still sticking with the plan? | ||
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#Justsaying | ||
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Deal with it. | ||
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Acro conveniently mentions that there may be no nightkill, there is no nightkill. Then instead of waiting for zarepath to duel, duels Alderan himself. So therefore Alderan is basically dead. So if Alderan flips town we lynch zare and Acro. | ||
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Im just saying that if he flips town, you are kinda boned. kinda. | ||
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On March 07 2013 01:43 Hapahauli wrote: Tonight's free for me as well. It'd be fun if we could grab 3-4 people for a chat. Depending on when, but I could too  | ||
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Yeah pretty ok :D see you guys tmr :D(For me at least) | ||
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On March 07 2013 02:59 Hapahauli wrote: I'll record it and upload it somewhere. Also if anyone has any questions or points they want addressed, feel free to PM me or bring it up in-thread. Here's my short-list for now:
What town did right? What scum did wrong? | ||
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