On March 02 2013 14:01 Oatsmaster wrote: Acro: Not really and that means I should stop getting on his back right. I need to look at normal mini IV though. His most recent scum game.
Cora, the reason he wouldnt give up as scum is because that means he LOSES the game. As town, he is one of many, and isnt the sole or even main reason town loses.
Cora you arent making sense now. You didnt address my association at all and just keep harping that he is scummy and therefore he is scum.
It beats harping that he is scummy and that makes him town...
God I'm sick of you all being close-minded to a desperation attempt by scum. I sat there all of D1 and threw my Syl read on the back burner to allow Thrawn/Kei or Adam/kei. Then I suggest it again and you all say he is scum, yet don't vote for him. Now that we have lynched another scum, you decide that he is scummy but is town. That is a contradiction in itself. I don't like being messed with and I'm done not being taken seriously.
Here's what's going to happen: Unless Syl improves his play, he is going to be in the duel tomorrow, whether he's in it with someone else, or he's in it with me. Savvy?
On March 02 2013 14:18 thrawn2112 wrote: ok i propose a truce:
syl isn't allowed in the dueling ring unless we mislynch 2 townies without lynching scum
Cor what's wrong with this plan? We're in a good enough position that we can delay lynching syl to clear up other stuff first.
No. We should not have delayed lynching Syl. Now you guys are sitting here and saying Syl is scummy but you're not going to lynch him. It's stupid.
I told you that not double lynching was going to give us more questions than answers. We're going to solve this question now because you all refused to solve it before.
I'm tired of having my voice drowned out by the veterans and not being taken seriously. You all should not have dangled a Syl lynch in front of me and then taken it away.
This duel will give us a lot more clarity and set you all up (cause I don't expect to live if I duel him) to have an easier time finding scum than saying "What if the last scum is Syl" everytime you make a read...
Thrawn you should know that when I point the gun anywhere, I don't back down.
If Syl flips town, then you can quit worrying about him, and it's going to set the tone that I'm not going to stand for crappy town play.
If he has not learned by now that lurking isn't good, then he needs to reevaluate his priorities when it comes to playing Mafia. I'd love to play with him when he is not busy, but right now he's just dragging us down.
On March 02 2013 14:51 cDgCorazon wrote: There's a way out, gentlemen. Put Syl up in a duel with someone else, and I won't pull the trigger. That's the deal.
And then when we lynch that someone else you will be ranting and railing the next day. Just stow away your ego and find the 4th scum.
No. All I've asked is for you guys to lynch Syl. I'm not the only one who has said Syl was scum. This is what I'm talking about when I ask nicely to be taken seriously. Now I'm threatening to throw some weight around. Deal with it, unless you want me to.
On March 02 2013 14:27 cDgCorazon wrote: God I'm sick of you all being close-minded to a desperation attempt by scum. I sat there all of D1 and threw my Syl read on the back burner to allow Thrawn/Kei or Adam/kei. Then I suggest it again and you all say he is scum, yet don't vote for him. Now that we have lynched another scum, you decide that he is scummy but is town. That is a contradiction in itself. I don't like being messed with and I'm done not being taken seriously.
Here's what's going to happen: Unless Syl improves his play, he is going to be in the duel tomorrow, whether he's in it with someone else, or he's in it with me. Savvy?
Fine. I'm getting the stomach flu so I don't possess the energy to think critically enough to play this game right now. I'll take a look at the thread every now and then and try to contribute where I see fit.
On March 03 2013 03:49 Oatsmaster wrote: What do you think about acro and yamato dueling? Do you think either of them is scum/town/3P?
I'm really sorry I took so long in answering this, I really could not look at a filter for a minute without getting a massive headache.
If I had to choose between Acro and Yamato to lynch, I would choose Yamato because overall Acro's posts and activity have been more town-oriented (besides the fact that he spent so much time worrying about Adam being 3P. I felt like it was a possibility but thought otherwise when I actually put my brain to it). Yamato has been a bit more erratic in his posting: His posts are more one-liners (but I expect that's his style) and he hasn't done as much of a job fueling the discussion as Acro has.
The recent point that has me worried about Yamato is this exchange right here:
On March 03 2013 04:14 yamato77 wrote: Lol, have two townies duel and double lynch them
This is hilarious.
You guys kill my motivation to play.
On March 03 2013 04:15 Oatsmaster wrote: So you dont think Acro is scum? Then why did you go all crazy last night about wanting to duel him at the crack of dawn?
Seriously Yamato, what are you doing?
On March 03 2013 04:20 yamato77 wrote: No, I just don't randomly duel people out of nowhere.
But whatever, tomorrow at dawn I will duel Hapa and we can lynch mafia.
You guys are silly and think I'm mafia, so I'll duel someone and you can lynch me if it pleases you.
I'm getting tired of arguing with people anyway.
He literally just said that he wanted Acro dead and now he has randomly decided to flip towards Hapa. Where is the thought process in this? When pressured by Oats, he just shrugs it off and yells at people for arguing with him. He then goes on to post an unnecessarily long post about how Snarfs is town. I don't get that. That really looks like he is trying to look like he is scumhunting when in reality he is just making showy posts about how Snarfs is town (That post could've been summed up in like 4 sentences. We didn't need all of the quotes and the whole long post). His scumhunting has been all over the place. The fact that he is going "Acro is mafia, Hapa is mafia, Zare is mafia" does not make any sense to me. He's just wandering around trying to look like he is scum hunting, and that is scummy in itself.
I'm still confused about his read on Acro but I want to see Yamato in a duel so we can get his "real scum reads" from him. I hope they're better than "Dieno and Kei"...
I'm sorry if it's hard to read, still need to put myself together.
Second of all, your read on Zare looked like you were trying to give a scumread on him without actually saying it. If you thought he was town, you would've said so. If you thought he was scum, you wouldn't be dueling Hapa. You would be trying to convince us that we should have a Zare/Hapa duel, not just randomly pulling the trigger.
On March 03 2013 15:56 Sylencia wrote: You asked this question to me in NMM37, so how about I ask you the same question: Who are your scum reads and why - excluding myself.
My post about Acro and Yamato has about a hundred times the scum hunting you've done in both this game and NMM 37, so I think it is your turn first.
On March 03 2013 15:56 Sylencia wrote: You asked this question to me in NMM37, so how about I ask you the same question: Who are your scum reads and why - excluding myself.
My post about Acro and Yamato has about a hundred times the scum hunting you've done in both this game and NMM 37, so I think it is your turn first.
No, your reads since you are here. What benefit does town get by you withholding your reads because you want to piss off syl?
Then pressure Syl when he gets here for crying out loud.
I want to see Zare's vote. Yamato just implied he was scum without saying it. Zare has been lurking and taking very popular opinions this game. It really looks like scum blending in.
Elsewhere, Yamato spent and unnecessarily long time calling Snarfs town, and Snarfs called Yamato town basically because he was reciprocating Yamato's read. Snarfs also has been lurking and taking popular opinions, and has not done much scumhunting.
I think the votes here will be very telling for who is scum and who is not.
On March 04 2013 01:28 Acrofales wrote: I see absolutely no reason to rush into hammering Yamato. I think the duel is very weird and am trying to figure out whether the way that happened makes him more likely town or scum.
On March 03 2013 18:39 yamato77 wrote: People still want me dead?
I'm flattered you guys think I could do what I've done this game as mafia, but for real, I am town.
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I want to duel Hapa today. If I'm in a duel, I'm dueling him, or someone is dueling me. Let it happen.
The first part of this post somewhat corresponds to what has been going through my mind since people have been thinking I'm scum and particularly this thought process has been making me want to duel someone. So I can fully understand Yamato taking this stance from a town perspective. So the fact that he dueled is unsurprising. Also the fact that he decided it made more sense to pick his own opponent.
Sure, he jumped the gun, but if he's town, this makes sense: he wants to duel someone he thinks is scum, not be dueled by someone he might have a town read on. I cannot make sense of this move as a scummer.
Another thing I can't make much sense of is why he backed down on me if he's scum. He had me pretty much where he wanted me. Adam, Snarfs and Alderan were all on board the Acro=scum train. It was starting to go places. Why flip that read?
However, everything I said in my night post also holds. There's a reason I would rather have seen Zapa get dueled. The way the duel happened is making me reconsider Yamato. Hammering him quickly without considering this kind of stuff seems stupid.
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