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On March 01 2013 07:11 Adam4167 wrote:
So Acro, your proposed scumteam looks like 'Alderan, Sylencia/Cora, Deino and Keirathi'?
I don't begin to assume how this game as balanced, but I have more games then your entire scum team combined.
It's possible, but the teamplay seems unlikely. Alderan-Dieno is pretty weird and I would really have to see if that makes sense at all if Dieno flips scum.
Anyway, Keirathi has played far more games than you.
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Just found out that some friends as well as my girlfriend will be coming to visit this weekend. Giving everyone a little heads up that my activity will probably be down from Friday night to Monday morning, but hell I'll probably still be more active than half the thread.
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On March 01 2013 07:11 Adam4167 wrote:
So Acro, your proposed scumteam looks like 'Alderan, Sylencia/Cora, Deino and Keirathi'?
I don't begin to assume how this game as balanced, but I have more games then your entire scum team combined.
If you want to catch the scumteam all at once, what is it according to you?
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Freeeeeedommmmmm!
Catchin' up
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nobody duel please. working on a wall of text.
i agree that acro has done some scummy things but it'd be ridiculous to put him up for lynch today. especially vs yamato.
in the meantime, dieno once again i'd like to see some maps, and interpretations of what the maps may mean
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@Acro and Hapa: Is this a good enough explanation for my vote switch? If not, what can I do to elaborate or clarify?
@Hapa: Why would I switch off a vote that was most likely going to be deadlocked and letting a non-scum and a scum die to just have my supposed "scum-buddy" die? That doesn't make any sense. I wasn't focusing on Thrawn and Kei D1, I was more focused on Oats and Syl when it came to my scumhunting. The latter half of the duel consisted of us talking about people other than the duelists. I just decided to end it and instead of scumhunting with a hint towards the future, we speed things up and force the other scum to come out of their holes instead of sitting there and having a vote deadlock.
In all honesty my switch from Adam is going to look scummy either way. If I had stayed on Adam I would've looked scummy for refusing to switch to a scum. I decided to switch and we lynched a scum. Let's have a party.
On another note, if I had said "I'm switching cause I felt like it", would you have a town read on me?
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On February 28 2013 20:23 Acrofales wrote:
@Hapa: I agree with some of your reads and disagree with others, when I finish filtering I will decide what that entails. However, for the moment, what is Thrawn the 3P's wincon? You can't just posit that he's a 3P because he wanted multiple people dead, out of the blue. Why does that fit with a survivor wincon? Where is the KP from an SK? You have to explain how that works, because I just don't see it.
You state that me suggesting there's a 3P in Adam is bad play or scummy: what does offputting mean in that sentence?
Yet 5 lines down you are doing it yourself for thrawn. Explain.
He seems like a survivor. His recent days have been fairly active, but there's not much analysis in there. It feels like he's playing not to get shot. It's similar to your read on Adam, in that his play this game doesn't match very well with his town or scum metas. He's lacking some of the humor and fearlessness I associate with his town-play, but he's more active than I'm used to seeing out of his scum play.
I mentioned "offputting" because I REALLY disagree with your analysis on Adam. It's something that nags in the back of my mind every time I read your filter. That's basically it.
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On March 01 2013 07:20 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 07:11 Adam4167 wrote:
So Acro, your proposed scumteam looks like 'Alderan, Sylencia/Cora, Deino and Keirathi'?
I don't begin to assume how this game as balanced, but I have more games then your entire scum team combined. If you want to catch the scumteam all at once, what is it according to you?
This is about my 16th or so game, so still more than keirathi, according to his profile. Regardless..
Deino needs to flip. That will give me a very good indication as to yourself, considering how you were defending him on D1.
Deino flips scum, the remaining scum will probably be yourself and one of Zare/Yamato - as per my reads post.
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You think Yamato and I are a scumteam together? Lol.
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@ Syl
Idealistic, but you would think that the 4th scum (if any) would at least have the brains to stop this from happening if this was true. Even I would've seen from a mile away that leaving my vote on Adam would've been a dumb move if I was going to sleep with chances to hammer at any time (mainly saying this about the second half of the day, I would probably still vote at the time I did) leaving my vote exposed as scum. Deino who seems to have been in a similar situation following suit would mean that both of us being scum were very confident that town would vote for double lynch / Adam. Adam getting killed was still far off, and with the votes being 3-4 or something before the real movement happened, it's not like scum could convincingly say that it was in the bag at all.
So if I was scum, it would've been very very easy for me to simply withdraw my vote under the "Oh keir has done nothing for this half of the day, I'll re-evaluate." context. But I didn't. I stood my ground, and gave more reasoning. tl;dr You are at least half wrong about this, so assuming there are 4 scum, you're still missing one.
"My vote was too scummy for me to be scum" isn't a very good defense. What's very suspicious about your vote (and Dieno's) is how early you were on Adam, and how "clean" your play has been so far. You haven't done anything to stick your neck out - you just stick to one straight story and "blend in" while pursuing mafia objectives (lynching Adam).
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You may actually be onto something with Yamato. I completely missed the post where he said he wanted Keir dead.
Yamato: why did your reads flip 180º degrees when Adam dueled Keirathi, instead of Thrawn doing it?
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On March 01 2013 07:28 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 07:20 Acrofales wrote:On March 01 2013 07:11 Adam4167 wrote:
So Acro, your proposed scumteam looks like 'Alderan, Sylencia/Cora, Deino and Keirathi'?
I don't begin to assume how this game as balanced, but I have more games then your entire scum team combined. If you want to catch the scumteam all at once, what is it according to you? This is about my 16th or so game, so still more than keirathi, according to his profile. Regardless.. Deino needs to flip. That will give me a very good indication as to yourself, considering how you were defending him on D1. Deino flips scum, the remaining scum will probably be yourself and one of Zare/Yamato - as per my reads post.
You don't think Syl is scum?
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Hapa, when you have time, I absolutely need your input on my case on Acro.
Like, you can't post any more reads without reading that.
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I don't discount the possibility.
I don't like your interactions with deino. I don't like his flip-flop on Keirathi.
Him attacking you hours before a daypost that some expect you to die in could be a convenient ploy.
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On March 01 2013 07:36 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 07:28 Adam4167 wrote:On March 01 2013 07:20 Acrofales wrote:On March 01 2013 07:11 Adam4167 wrote:
So Acro, your proposed scumteam looks like 'Alderan, Sylencia/Cora, Deino and Keirathi'?
I don't begin to assume how this game as balanced, but I have more games then your entire scum team combined. If you want to catch the scumteam all at once, what is it according to you? This is about my 16th or so game, so still more than keirathi, according to his profile. Regardless.. Deino needs to flip. That will give me a very good indication as to yourself, considering how you were defending him on D1. Deino flips scum, the remaining scum will probably be yourself and one of Zare/Yamato - as per my reads post. You don't think Syl is scum?
Nope. Did you read my list?
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On March 01 2013 07:35 Acrofales wrote:
You may actually be onto something with Yamato. I completely missed the post where he said he wanted Keir dead.
Yamato: why did your reads flip 180º degrees when Adam dueled Keirathi, instead of Thrawn doing it?
Because I didn't agree with the decision.
Pretty fucking clear in my filter, bro.
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If there's questions about my play this game, I'll gladly duel a scum read of mine.
People were telling me not to before, but if you guys are going to be stupid, let me show you who is actually mafia.
Right now I see a lot of nothing going on.
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On March 01 2013 07:36 Adam4167 wrote:
I don't discount the possibility.
I don't like your interactions with deino. I don't like his flip-flop on Keirathi.
Him attacking you hours before a daypost that some expect you to die in could be a convenient ploy.
What don't you like about them? I remembered him as a newbie version of Bill Murray and was willing to treat him as such: give him more time to get into his townie groove. If you come out guns blazing against that kind of player you get nothing out of them. My stance on D1 was to treat him as town until I could make a decent read. I think my thought process regarding him has been very transparent.
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On March 01 2013 07:36 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2013 07:36 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 01 2013 07:28 Adam4167 wrote:On March 01 2013 07:20 Acrofales wrote:On March 01 2013 07:11 Adam4167 wrote:
So Acro, your proposed scumteam looks like 'Alderan, Sylencia/Cora, Deino and Keirathi'?
I don't begin to assume how this game as balanced, but I have more games then your entire scum team combined. If you want to catch the scumteam all at once, what is it according to you? This is about my 16th or so game, so still more than keirathi, according to his profile. Regardless.. Deino needs to flip. That will give me a very good indication as to yourself, considering how you were defending him on D1. Deino flips scum, the remaining scum will probably be yourself and one of Zare/Yamato - as per my reads post. You don't think Syl is scum? Nope. Did you read my list?
So as long as he doesn't do anything "bad", you're still not going to have a scum read on him?
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I expect a certain level from you, and when you place someone in your top 4 town reads that opens with a post like Deino's, and responds to my aggression like he did, I am concerned that you are not seeing what I consider is right in front of your face.
You've since dumpstered his initial post, for exactly the same reasons that I did on day 1, yet after your first read on day 1, he was 'top 4 town' and now hes scum for the same post.
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