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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Hey Iamp I also think hapa has been really fucking passive this game, However, was it a bus on Keirathi? His reasoning was suspect and I dont really know :/ Again, however, his posts leading up to the lynch where he blasted Acro for saying Adam was 3P were pretty townie. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18487 Posts
On February 28 2013 05:51 Alderan wrote: See I was thinking the exact opposite actually, and not only because I was one of the most vocal against the double lynch. I think Kier was probably just as inactive with the scum as he was in this thread. As soon as they realized he got dueled and it was going to be close, their best option was to propose a double lynch, mitigate damage and appear pro town when it worked out. It makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I went over the votes and this doesn't really make sense: [spoiler] 1. Thrawn on Keirathi 1-0 2. Yamato on Adam 1-1 3. Sylencia on Adam 1-2 4. Acro double-lynch 5. Cora on Adam 1-3 6. Hapa on Keirathi 2-3 7. Dieno on Adam 2-4 8. Iamp double-lynch ----- Here there is a long break in votes building up. ----- 9. Snarfs on Keirathi 3-4 10. Zarepath on Keirathi 4-4 11. Alderan on Keirathi 5-4 12. Thrawn double-lynch 4-4 13. Oats on Keirathi 5-4 ---- Here the momentum had clearly swung and it was really just a matter of time for the votes to come in. ---- 14. Yamato on Keirathi 6-3 15. Cora on Keirathi 7-2 [spoiler] Basically, I don't think scum was bussing before Snarfs' vote. Not saying Snarfs is scum and was bussing, just that he was the first in a couple of votes that in a few hours swung the momentum clearly in favour of Keirathi. Before that, there was a LOT of anger and frustration at Adam and a good chance of him getting lynched. It wasn't a done deal and scum might have been hesitant to hammer down that wagon, but I think that the people stating clearly that Keirathi is scum before Snarfs' vote are not scum throwing him under the bus. Afterwards? Well, that's another story. I believe there's at least one, and my likely suspect is Zarepath. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9649 Posts
On February 28 2013 12:03 Oatsmaster wrote: Nah. Hey Iamp I also think hapa has been really fucking passive this game, However, was it a bus on Keirathi? His reasoning was suspect and I dont really know :/ Again, however, his posts leading up to the lynch where he blasted Acro for saying Adam was 3P were pretty townie. there is no way hapa could say kier wasn't scum regardless of alignment. He would be claiming scum if he didn't say kier was scum towards the end. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18487 Posts
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
There are plenty of people that look worse than he does. | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On February 28 2013 12:06 Acrofales wrote: Also, there were only 3 people proposing a double lynch and I have no reason to suspect any of them of being scum. I don't know... I think if you, iamp, and Thrawn flipped it would not surprise me if there was one scum. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9649 Posts
On February 28 2013 12:09 Alderan wrote: I don't know... I think if you, iamp, and Thrawn flipped it would not surprise me if there was one scum. you know you keep saying that and you seem to keep on forgetting to put you know reasoning behind it. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18487 Posts
On February 28 2013 12:05 iamperfection wrote: there is no way hapa could say kier wasn't scum regardless of alignment. He would be claiming scum if he didn't say kier was scum towards the end. That's the point, he said it at the start. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Hapa said keir was scum right at the start of the duel. But if keir showed up, it wouldnt take much for hapa to switch to adam I dont think. Anyway, if hapa steps it up, good. If he doesnt bad, and we can deal with him later. Acro, is double lynch scum favoured or town favoured? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18487 Posts
On February 28 2013 12:09 Alderan wrote: I don't know... I think if you, iamp, and Thrawn flipped it would not surprise me if there was one scum. Put up or shut up. | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
On February 27 2013 11:33 Dienosore wrote: Late day at the office. Got back about an hour ago and caught up on the thread. I promised an investigation into the duelers, so here it is. Adam4167 + Show Spoiler + Timeline: - immediately busts into the thread with a vigilante disposition and challenges me to a duel. - begins to argue with marv - cuts me down - prods Corazon a few times, calls him uninteresting, then drops him - tells Zarepath he's given out reads on several players, when actually he has done very little other than accuse me of scum and clear Corazon. - clears Oats - supports Thrawn/Keir duel. - threatens Keir with a duel - clears Thrawn - defends his stance a bit more, then snaps a duel on Keir - general posturing, says his mafia meta is lurky and passive, calls Yamato delusional - reinforces that his play isnt mafia motivated a few times. - outright claims town Summary: I have to admit that I am a bit biased due to our previous interactions, but I can't shake the feeling that this guy is scum. He seems to be trying to cause as much chaos as possible, then once all the shit has been slung, reinforces over and over again that he is town. He also seems to be exclusively picking on the Keirathi + Show Spoiler + Timeline: - disagrees with Thrawn's stance to just 'let things happen as they will' - says Thrawn is currently his biggest scumread - puts suspicion on Adam due to his rogue bravado - tries to advance our dueling policy - says he is willing to duel Thrawn - argues a bit more with Adam about dueling policy - gets called out by Adam - general defending Summary: As I said earlier, I was completely surprised by Adam snapping on Keir. I've gone through Keir's filter a few times since the duel was called, but I still can't find anything that sticks out as obviously scum motivated. Other than a bit of back and forth banter mostly discussing dueling policy, he has kept a relatively low profile. The only real aggression shown has been directed towards a scummy looking Thrawn. It's true his activity has been a little slow, but not so much that I'd see any reason to raise any alarms. Overall, I'd say he has been playing it overly safe, if anything. So with that, I feel compelled to cast my vote now. Considering how the game started, I don't think it's going to surprise anyone. ##Vote: Adam4167 After this guttertrash analysis, and the resulting flip - Deino goes into the duel tomorrow or D3 will be the shortest cycle in TL history. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18487 Posts
On February 28 2013 12:12 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah but look at his play Adam, it doesnt look like the Hapa Im used to. Hapa said keir was scum right at the start of the duel. But if keir showed up, it wouldnt take much for hapa to switch to adam I dont think. Anyway, if hapa steps it up, good. If he doesnt bad, and we can deal with him later. Acro, is double lynch scum favoured or town favoured? Please be more specific. I am not advocating double-lynching always. I was advocating double-lynching Adam and Keirathi. I still stand by my vote and think Adam is 3P. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9649 Posts
On February 28 2013 12:11 Acrofales wrote: That's the point, he said it at the start. well my definition of end for kier was since the cycle start. I had him as bold red. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18487 Posts
On February 28 2013 12:13 Adam4167 wrote: After this guttertrash analysis, and the resulting flip - Deino goes into the duel tomorrow or D3 will be the shortest cycle in TL history. Doubt it, we'll have to wait 48 hours to lynch both of you. | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9649 Posts
On February 28 2013 12:15 Adam4167 wrote: And if I take another scum with me, then Ill happily do it. you will not initiate a duel | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
You do not have a say in the matter of when I do or do not initiate duels | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18487 Posts
On February 28 2013 12:17 Adam4167 wrote: You do not have a say in the matter of when I do or do not initiate duels I hate town for not killing this guy | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On February 28 2013 12:17 Adam4167 wrote: You do not have a say in the matter of when I do or do not initiate duels Yeah.... if you could not do that, that'd be great..... | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
On February 28 2013 11:57 iamperfection wrote: Guys Guys Guys I have a sick case for hapa He said he would be back in an hour and then he didn't You know what this means well do you? It means he does not care about town. hapa can die. He can be a leader and he isnt he could name the whole scum team as town by now he isnt hapa is Mafia Push legitimate cases. Then Ill agree with your duel choices. | ||
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