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On February 28 2013 10:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
And all the scumbuddies bussed the hell out of keirathi.
Alderan, why were you so concerned that a double lynch was happening? There was still like 8-10 hours to go or more.
Plenty of time to see a switch.
Also, you pushed it so hard then when keirathi flipped town you were suprised? Like what? Then why did you push keirathi over adam SO HARD when you thought that they were both town?
Oats, This information is all readily available in his filter:
He had a light town read on both of us.
He vehemently disagreed with the use of a double-lynch.
He pushed for Keirathi to die because I was showing more effort - in his mind, the lesser of two evils.
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And it seems hes already beaten me to the punch.
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I already switched off it and it was gaining no traction.
The thing is, double lynch is basically no lynch, and you have to wait until the end of the cycle to see it happen. So therefore it looks really weird that you were pushing it so early.
Not aware of the time being left is not much of an excuse. Its not that hard to check.
Alderan, the problem I have with the way you pushed Keirathi, was that you wanted to see Keirathi die above all else, and if both of them are town, and you dont want a no lynch, shouldnt you just prefer keirathi to die, but if adam gets lynched too thats ok?
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Double lynch is like a no lynch. Except both people are dead. So nothing like a no lynch.
Why would two people he had a town read on both dying be 'ok'?
You aren't making any sense.
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I meant that either one of you dying would be ok cause then both of you dont die.
Sorry if that was misunderstood.
Adam, why did he push SO HARD. and so early?
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In his position, with a town read on both duellists that some loose-cannon has just called - I would be thinking damage control.
I mention this specifically earlier when Cora asked me about it:
On February 25 2013 13:28 Adam4167 wrote:
In your hypothetical, Id kill whoever was displaying the least value to the town, as in nomination mafia.
We aren't all going to agree with every lynch, and there will come a time when you may have to choose between two people you have some form of a town read on. If we all unanimously agree on all our reads then either a) our reads are wrong because the scum are agreeing with us, or b) the scum team is so inept that they got clean swept.
Because keirathi was doing jack-squat, he valued me higher than Keirathi and thus to prevent two townie deaths, he just wants to kill the more useless one and only have one townie death - Keirathi.
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On February 28 2013 01:00 Alderan wrote:
TBH I don't think either are scum. I've been trying to make heads or tails of it, and waiting on the analysis post from each. Adam posted his and it largely seems pretty good analysis. Yes it's disappointing that it took this long, but doesn't make him seem scummy.
That said I'm purposely holding my vote and I'm placing it wherever will prevent a double lynch. I don't think its a good idea, I don't have a decent scum read on either, I'd rather have Adam still alive probably but if its him or both dead, I'm choosing him.
I just don't know how you all can be that on board with a double lynch. That is a horrendous policy, why am I the only one talking about it?
On February 28 2013 01:07 Alderan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 01:03 zarepath wrote:
Alderan, will you vote for Keirathi then? Adam looks more town than Keirathi does. I will vote for whoever my vote would kill. On the one hand if we kill Adam we set a precedent that early out of line duels make you appear more scummy and thus people won't want to do them. But then on the other hand Adam's reads have been better than Keirathi's imo. Again, number one goal is that they both don't die.
On February 28 2013 01:16 Alderan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 01:07 Acrofales wrote:On February 28 2013 01:05 Alderan wrote:On February 28 2013 00:59 Acrofales wrote:On February 28 2013 00:53 zarepath wrote:On February 28 2013 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wait, Cora so what do you think about Adam saying that he would do it again?
Do you think that scum would EVER say that??? He has stated, in no uncertain terms, that he KNOWS it was horribly anti-town. Why would a townie EVER say that? A townie would say that, scum wouldn't. A townie would say "What I did was anti-town, but I will do it again without hesitation"? Anyway, this seems to imply you have a town read on Adam, yet are completely happy lynching him and are just waiting to hammer whoever is hammerable. Explain your town read on Keirathi, or die next cycle. I don't know who you think you are taking on the leader of the town position, because your play thus far has been so anti town it's ridiculous. First off, I believe he's entirely too disinterested to be playing scum. It's always been my experience that scum early game are usually deliberate, you don't see a lot of afk time from when they are under pressure because it's easy enough to get your scum mates to write a couple responses you can just throw up. Just wreaks of a townie that's given up. On the other hand he has offered absolutely nothing in the way of analysis, which is exactly why I said I would rather Adam live. It's not a complicated situation, I have townish reads on both, thus don't want both to die, if I had to chose it'd be Keirathi. The fact that we can't even choose who we want to kill because you've muddied up the waters so much with the fucking double lynch talk is absolutely asinine.
Read the fucking thread Oats....
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Ok.
My problem is that you pushed Keir like a scum read, instead of a town read that was useless
On the other hand he has offered absolutely nothing in the way of analysis, which is exactly why I said I would rather Adam live. It's not a complicated situation, I have townish reads on both, thus don't want both to die, if I had to chose it'd be Keirathi. The fact that we can't even choose who we want to kill because you've muddied up the waters so much with the fucking double lynch talk is absolutely asinine.
Again here you dont sound really convinced that either one is scum, but prefer keirathi just a little bit.
Your play later belays that sentiment, it reads to me like you really really want keirathi dead, when instead, you say you DIDNT want a double lynch.
I would imagine that if you were going for damage control, you wont be so worried about it because you would find out when the lynch ended, and chill the fuck out till then .
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On February 28 2013 11:44 Oatsmaster wrote:Ok. My problem is that you pushed Keir like a scum read, instead of a town read that was useless Show nested quote +
On the other hand he has offered absolutely nothing in the way of analysis, which is exactly why I said I would rather Adam live. It's not a complicated situation, I have townish reads on both, thus don't want both to die, if I had to chose it'd be Keirathi. The fact that we can't even choose who we want to kill because you've muddied up the waters so much with the fucking double lynch talk is absolutely asinine.
Again here you dont sound really convinced that either one is scum, but prefer keirathi just a little bit. Your play later belays that sentiment, it reads to me like you really really want keirathi dead, when instead, you say you DIDNT want a double lynch. I would imagine that if you were going for damage control, you wont be so worried about it because you would find out when the lynch ended, and chill the fuck out till then .
The longer Keir went without responding, the more I wanted him dead.
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And I should clarify, the more I wanted him dead in relation to Adam.
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If you genuinely thought both people in a duel were town, and you sat on your hands, just to see them flip, I'd take a good hard look at how you're playing this game, because that's about as useless as someone could be.
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What do you mean by this?
b) I don't trust Syl to make the pick. I think Dieno should be the one to initiate the duel.
Do you have a stronger scumread on Syl? Or something else entirely.
Also
On February 28 2013 06:38 Alderan wrote:
BTW Thrawn I like your list. A lot.
So why am I scum?
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On February 28 2013 11:50 Oatsmaster wrote:What do you mean by this? Show nested quote +b) I don't trust Syl to make the pick. I think Dieno should be the one to initiate the duel.
Do you have a stronger scumread on Syl? Or something else entirely. Also So why am I scum?
That was worded kind of weird, but basically I think Dieno is way more scummy that Syl, and I want to make sure Dieno gets in the duel. If Syl dueled Dieno that'd be great, I just don't see it happening and I don't want to prioritize Syl over Dieno.
I didn't like all the names on the list, but its a good group of people that I'm suspicious of. Honestly you're still got null at best in my mind. Not a whole lot of constructive analysis as far as I can tell.
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Guys Guys Guys
I have a sick case for hapa
On February 28 2013 02:52 Hapahauli wrote:
I'll be back in an hour. Till then, someone needs to explain to me why we're so sure that Adam is a 3rd party that we're willing to lynch him solely on that basis. 'Cause I don't get it at all.
He said he would be back in an hour and then he didn't
You know what this means well do you? It means he does not care about town.
hapa can die.
He can be a leader and he isnt
he could name the whole scum team as town by now he isnt
hapa is Mafia
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In fairness, this line of questioning on me is the most thorough work you've put in.
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On February 28 2013 11:57 iamperfection wrote:Guys Guys Guys I have a sick case for hapa Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 02:52 Hapahauli wrote:
I'll be back in an hour. Till then, someone needs to explain to me why we're so sure that Adam is a 3rd party that we're willing to lynch him solely on that basis. 'Cause I don't get it at all. He said he would be back in an hour and then he didn't You know what this means well do you? It means he does not care about town. hapa can die. He can be a leader and he isnt he could name the whole scum team as town by now he isnt hapa is Mafia
See here's my conundrum, would scum actually post something this worthless?
I'd assume no, but shit....
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On February 28 2013 11:59 Alderan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 11:57 iamperfection wrote:Guys Guys Guys I have a sick case for hapa On February 28 2013 02:52 Hapahauli wrote:
I'll be back in an hour. Till then, someone needs to explain to me why we're so sure that Adam is a 3rd party that we're willing to lynch him solely on that basis. 'Cause I don't get it at all. He said he would be back in an hour and then he didn't You know what this means well do you? It means he does not care about town. hapa can die. He can be a leader and he isnt he could name the whole scum team as town by now he isnt hapa is Mafia See here's my conundrum, would scum actually post something this worthless? I'd assume no, but shit....
so you think hapa is town???????????????????????????????????????????????????
why dont you enlighten the rest of class
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On February 28 2013 12:01 The Macho Man wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 11:59 Alderan wrote:On February 28 2013 11:57 iamperfection wrote:Guys Guys Guys I have a sick case for hapa On February 28 2013 02:52 Hapahauli wrote:
I'll be back in an hour. Till then, someone needs to explain to me why we're so sure that Adam is a 3rd party that we're willing to lynch him solely on that basis. 'Cause I don't get it at all. He said he would be back in an hour and then he didn't You know what this means well do you? It means he does not care about town. hapa can die. He can be a leader and he isnt he could name the whole scum team as town by now he isnt hapa is Mafia See here's my conundrum, would scum actually post something this worthless? I'd assume no, but shit.... so you think hapa is town??????????????????????????????????????????????????? why dont you enlighten the rest of class
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go back to thrawn's school of successful smurfing
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EPT
