EPTOn February 27 2013 12:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
corazon you're scum aren't you. i really hope you are.
corazon you're scum aren't you. i really hope you are.
Ummm...what?
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Corazon
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Ummm...what? | ||
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Corazon
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How is any of that not describing Sylencia's play so far? His play is even worse in the fact that he hasn't done any scumhunting and is lurking hardcore. | ||
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Corazon
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If one of them is scum, I think it's more likely to be Adam trying to give himself free town cred by dueling Kei, and the fact that if we lynch Kei and he flips town, Adam can just base his play as being weak and that he was just a going after his scum read. Kei was also a pretty good "lynch bait" with his actions as well, and Adam jumping on "lynch bait" is really scummy as well. If they are both town, Adam is being the more useless town by going gung-ho and trying to be a hero. I've already said that we don't need any heroes, and yet Adam goes out and decides to play the role of the hero. Even if he is town, it's still an anti-town move by preventing us from using the full time we have for discussion and diverting attention away from other possible (and definitely better) duelists such as Thrawn and Syl. I don't want to lynch both of them because if they both flip town, that would set the town back very much. The difference between a MYLO and a LYLO is huge, and I'd rather keep Kei around and see if he can turn his game around than let Adam run loose and do whatever he wants. | ||
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Corazon
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On February 27 2013 13:54 Sylencia wrote: OK. I'm only making this quick post now because I caught onto it while stuff's compiling. Thrawn: I'll answer your question when I get home since that requires some more depth. Corazon: Cool story. Are you fucking kidding me Syl. Just because I'm not 100% proclaimed townie by everyone else does not mean you have the power to dodge my arguments. | ||
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Corazon
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Town Syl would see the flaws in his town game and try to improve on them. Scum Syl would see how well this strategy works as scum (especially in a super active game where the town were at each other's throats from the get-go) and continue to play the same type of game. Your behavior makes you look slightly scummy. The fact that you still have not changed your meta makes you look REALLY scummy. Questions I would like you to answer: Why are you lurking? Why have you refused to give any scum reads or suspicions (your vote for Adam did not count because you basically went on the fence)? Why have you not tried to improve on your play, especially after your role in town's defeat in NMM 37? | ||
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Corazon
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@Thrawn: I'm not imposing that Syl plays a certain style, I'm saying that Syl should have learned from his mistakes as town by now. Have you read any of Syl's games? If not, I suggest you read NMM 37 and then wonder why he has not compensated for his bad play as town. Do you have a town read on Syl? | ||
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Corazon
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Let's forget my meta argument for a second. Let's take a look at what he has done this game: -Lurked at multiple important points in the game (he has 13 posts when many of us have 60+) -Many of his posts are short, have no real point, and are of no value to the town -Promised scum reads but never delivered on them -Trying to fly under the radar, only brought out when someone asks for it -Sits on the middle of the fence for this lynch, showing he does not really care about the lynch It has scum written all over it. Is there anything I'm missing? | ||
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On February 27 2013 15:10 Snarfs wrote: I think Sylencia's posts imply Keir has a much higher chance of being scum. (If you think Sylencia is scum). He said he had a "null read" on Keir and just voted before Keir did anything to swing that one way or the other. | ||
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Corazon
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On February 26 2013 18:31 Sylencia wrote: The sad thing is that I don't see Adam being scum, but just a detriment to town. Regarding Keir, I feel like he's pretty much on the same area as I am, not much from him but the fact he's argued with Adam meant that he's been put up for a duel. I'm still null on Keir, but if this is the way Adam wants to play I don't think it's exactly going to help us out in the long run. ##Vote: Adam Sure our reasoning is similar, but he hasn't shown why he has no interest in the lynch, while I have made it clear and concise who I think is scum and who I wanted to see be lynched. | ||
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Corazon
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On February 27 2013 15:25 Snarfs wrote: ...well if that's what I'm doing then what I'm doing is not what I'm trying to do -_-. I'm just trying to figure out why Corazon is voting Adam if his top scumread, Sylencia, is voting Adam in a manner that scum would be attempting to subtly kill off a townie (please note, this does not look anything like a bus). At the same time, this only makes sense if Cora truly believes that Keir is town. How can he truly believe Keir is town at this point in the game? First of all Snarfs, it is what you are doing. Just admit it. Secondly, Sylencia is not voting off Adam for any reason other than to say that he voted for someone. I've put the evidence down to support that. I don't believe Keir is fully town based off of anything. I think they are town based off of Syl's weak vote. I'm voting for who I think is the most useless townie (which is Adam and his hung-ho mentality). Don't get me wrong, I would love to vote for a no-lynch. However, this option is not available, and I refuse to let two people die because if they are both town (which I am leaning towards that persuasion) then we have just given scum a lot more ground than we can already not afford to give them. Sylencia's vote is so weak that it really could've gone the other way had Kei suddenly dueled Adam instead of vice-versa. With his reasoning, his vote could've easily have been on Kei. It's non-commital, which is why I refuse to accept any association cases that are more specific than the one where I think they are both town when it comes to any attacks on my vote. I've already outlined my vote, and to answer the question you will have of "Why are you voting with your top scum read? On February 27 2013 15:22 cDgCorazon wrote: Sure our reasoning is similar, but he hasn't shown why he has no interest in the lynch, while I have made it clear and concise who I think is scum and who I wanted to see be lynched. | ||
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Corazon
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On February 27 2013 15:37 yamato77 wrote: Have you proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Sylencia is mafia? No. Then it's a bad association case. The guy does fuck all as town. I lost a game as town because of his propensity to lurk and be useless. There's zero indication to me that he's CONFIRMED MAFIA and we should get off the person he wants to vote for. The only question here is if you're really dumb enough to push this sort of logic or if you're mafia attempting to manipulate the lynch. Is this to me or Snarfs? | ||
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Corazon
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On February 27 2013 15:44 Snarfs wrote: You're not following me. If I believe that Sylencia is mafia. And I believe that Sylencia wants Adam dead. And I DON'T believe that Sylencia is busing Adam. ----------------------------------------------------- Then I should conclude that Adam is town. Corazon is missing one of these. That's all I'm saying and trying to figure out why. Where in Sylencia's vote post do you see him "wanting Adam dead"? | ||
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Corazon
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Seriously he told you not to use a bad association case and you reply with a bad association case...you didn't even stop to consider his point. | ||
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Corazon
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On February 27 2013 15:03 cDgCorazon wrote: So you have a null read on him? Let's forget my meta argument for a second. Let's take a look at what he has done this game: -Lurked at multiple important points in the game (he has 13 posts when many of us have 60+) -Many of his posts are short, have no real point, and are of no value to the town -Promised scum reads but never delivered on them -Trying to fly under the radar, only brought out when someone asks for it -Sits on the middle of the fence for this lynch, showing he does not really care about the lynch It has scum written all over it. Is there anything I'm missing? The fact that you are in Australia should not have a huge impact on your ability to contribute. I've been able to have constant back and forth with Mocsta (also from Australia) in every game I've played with him. The timezones should not be an issue here. Even if you have limited time to play, you could have at least shown that you are having an interest in this scum hunt and that you should not be forced to give a read (one that's basically copying me) when one asks. You should take the initiative to look pro-town. When it comes to posts: High Quality and High Quantity= Generally Town High Quality but Low Quantity= Generally Town Low Quality but High Quantity= Scum Low Quality and Low Quantity= Scum If you are truly having a lack of time to discuss every single point, you needed to be more practice. The bolded one is what you could be doing with your limited time and what would help town. The underlined one is what you are doing, which is not helping town. | ||
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Corazon
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I'm still way against having both of them die because having them both flip town would set us back by a giant margin. It's really Adam's fault for giving us this crappy option when it comes to the lynch, and if they both are town at least I sent a message that I'm not going to accept stupid town play. So thank you Adam. If you die because of your stupid decision you will know next time that heroes aren't welcome here. Check your cape at the door. | ||
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Fuck it, I'm tired of sitting here and posturing for the next day. If Kei flips town I just know my agenda is going to be set back for a really long time...but I refuse to see a double lynch. ##unvote ##Vote: Kei | ||
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