the point is that it's a really strange argument to present, it leads to a (likely) singular conclusion that he doesn't mention, and the whole pretense (1 of hapa/thrawn is town and the other is scum) isn't based on anything. He's assuming that one of us is wrong because we're town, and the other one is right because they're scum.. why would he use this assumption as his starting point?
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the point is that it's a really strange argument to present, it leads to a (likely) singular conclusion that he doesn't mention, and the whole pretense (1 of hapa/thrawn is town and the other is scum) isn't based on anything. He's assuming that one of us is wrong because we're town, and the other one is right because they're scum.. why would he use this assumption as his starting point? | ||
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and it does seem weird that hapa is his scum read yet he's unwilling/unmotivated to lynch him | ||
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i'm pretty sure that iamp/yamato/oats are town I think there is probably scum among hapa/acro and i think it's way more likely that acro is scum there are a few low contribution players I don't like but chief among them is zarepath | ||
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On February 26 2013 13:08 Keirathi wrote: Right (well, not exactly, because yamato and Adam weren't fighting, just taking a strong stance that differed from thread sentiment). But he's using the "scum don't want to be in the spotlight" sentiment to make HIMSELF a townie. imo adam wasn't really putting himself in the spotlight the way yamato was besides, this line of reasoning is pretty weak. anything else to say about adam? | ||
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On February 26 2013 13:36 Acrofales wrote: Out of everything that has been asked from you, your contribution is to butt into an ongoing discussion that has nothing much to do with you, to throw in a soft defense of adam here? How about you explain your scumreads instead? I'm not soft defending adam. Kei is making a real weak case | ||
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Here's the summation of his thoughts on his main scumread, thrawn: On February 26 2013 11:01 Keirathi wrote: No solid reads yet. I'm interested in thrawn, obviously. The town thrawn I know is logical and takes his time to look at all sides of the situation, and I just haven't seen that from him this game. He's just been flying by the seat of his pants (iamp scum, no town, no scum again! Hapa should be a dueler tomorrow!) with little to no reasoning for his "reads". His explanations for why thrawn's scum are almost entirely meta based. He did ask thrawn this question: On February 26 2013 02:47 Keirathi wrote: So thrawn, why exactly do you want Hapa to duel? Do you think he is scum, or town? What is your ideal scenario for a duel? A strong townie vs a scum suspect? Or two scum suspects against each other? That series of questions is so bland/boring and non confrontational that I have a hard time imagining that there's any real purpose behind it. Here's what he said about adam: On February 26 2013 12:02 Keirathi wrote: Oh yea, I forgot about this: Adam Adam came out all guns blazing with his "I'll duel someone when I feel its appropriate!" stance. But this passage of quotes is interesting, because he dropped his minor scumread on Cora because Cora's arguments made Adam look town. He doesn't care that Cora's argument is anti-town itself (Cora was interested in lynching yam or Adam because they were "disruptive" or whatever, not because he necessarily thought they were scum), only that he can use Cora's response to identify himself as town. That suggests to me that the whole bravado thing at the start of the game could be an act, because Adam was already thinking of how he could get town cred from his stance even before Cora pointed out his problems with it. At best it's a very tenuous association to make. There are many more things worthy of suspicion so far and kei focusing on that is strange. So all of Kei's suspicions in the game total to "thrawn doesn't look like town thrawn" and the weird point about adam. He's not scumhunting i.e. he's scum | ||
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Acro my read on you right now is not as strong as it was, but I still think you are being overly wordy without having real motivation behind your words. Balance-wise when I first looked at the player list I sorta auto-assumed that one of marv/hapa/yourself/maybe kei has to be scum. So when marv died... that's where the statement about "either hapa or acro" cam from. As for Iamp... nothing really changed per se.. I woke up, read his filter and decided I don't like him as scum | ||
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You have a scumread on me, but I say the only way I'm calling a duel is if I get to duel a scumread. So if you want to lynch me you have to allow me to potentially lynch someone I wish... not somebody I have a town or even null read on. Good luck enforcing anything other than that... it's not going to happen. so knowing how I feel about it, are you willing to let me be a duelist and have some say in who I duel? If I'm not your top scumread then apply that question to that person as well. | ||
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On February 26 2013 14:23 Acrofales wrote: Before I say anything, I want to hear what Keirathi thinks of the proposed duel between him and Thrawn. yeah i'd really like to hear the answer to this kei, will you defend your honor? 10 paces at dawn? | ||
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On February 26 2013 14:33 cDgCorazon wrote: However, we can't just sit here and give the lurkers a free pass anymore. One of them is lurking while we sit around and take each other out, that bit has to be true... What do you propose that we do about it? | ||
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On February 26 2013 14:31 Adam4167 wrote: If you will not, I will. My 'bravado', ask Keirathi put it, was not an act. I'm getting the feeling that you have a town read on me.. is your scum read that strong on kei that you're willing to put both of us up for lynch? How's your read on deino going? | ||
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