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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 08 2013 04:35 GMT
#13
Hi.

I just read the title of the game, but one thing wasn't very clear to me: is this game themed?

gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 08 2013 16:39 GMT
#29
On February 08 2013 14:20 Promethelax wrote:
The more I think about this the more I want to /in. self-prescribed bans suck. I may break my vows for you GreY, you tease.


On February 08 2013 22:04 marvellosity wrote:
I tried not to in... but denying myself this game seems like the non-fun sort of masochism

/in


This

I have this urge to in....but I'm not sure
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 08 2013 16:46 GMT
#32
Okay, if someone else posts "Do it you sexy stud!" I'm doing it!
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 08 2013 16:54 GMT
#35
Fuck yeah!

/in
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 08 2013 17:53 GMT
#42
Okay, so I'll spend all of my time before the game starts trying to figure out a role.
I guess I won't give much of a shit about the game after that part lol
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 08 2013 17:58 GMT
#43
Okay, so just a question:

What mechanics can we fool around with in the role creation? Only "normal game" ones? Like KP, checks, protection, etc?

Or can we "assume" there can be more stuff, like "power levels" or maybe percentages of life (like dealing 0.5 KP or 0.3 KP or shit like that), and other stuff?

It'd be good if you could list all possible parameters that can affect the play so every role creation can use those.
It can increase the synergy between different roles.

Like, it I make a "Deals 0.5 KP" role, it would be nice if someone else could (theoretically) create a "Protects 0.5 KP" one, instead of me being the only role in the game that even uses percentages of KP
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 08 2013 18:02 GMT
#44
Also, what about roles that depend on alignment?
If I make a "You gain 1 KP if you lynch scum" role, then it doesn't make much sense to give it to scum
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 18:10:43
February 08 2013 18:06 GMT
#46
lol

Can we make "alignment-conditional" roles?

Like:


Hi! You are Stupid Little Brat.
If you are scum: You can do 1 additional KP at night, twice per game
If you are town: You gain 1 KP if you were between the first 4 voters on a scum lynch.


EDIT: Or rather, can we make 2 different roles, one for town and one for scum, where the host gives the corresponding role depending on the target's alignment?

For instance:


Hi! You are Stupid Little Brat.
You can do 1 additional KP at night, twice per game



Hi! You are Stupid Little Brat.
You gain 1 KP if you were between the first 4 voters on a scum lynch.


Which one of these 2 is allowed?

EDIT2: If it's 3rd party as well I assume. Dunno if we can choose the win-condition though lol
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 08 2013 18:07 GMT
#47
Also.....ahaha...ahgahAHAHHAHAHA I already have the perfect role in my mind. I need confirmation about the above "common role properties" question so I can make it more "fun"
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 08 2013 18:12 GMT
#49
You ruin the fun Grey

We can't create alternate win-conditions and the like I take it? If you were to put a 3rd party in the game (I assume you will), then we can't "change" his win-condition with our role or anything, right?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 08 2013 19:09 GMT
#55
I hope there is a "Best Role" award when this game ends
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 08 2013 19:36 GMT
#58
I accept them
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 08 2013 19:44 GMT
#62
You don't have points anymore!
Get yourself another escort mafia lady now > : (



Also...damn I wish we were given more info about the other "mini-games" (Whose Line, Liar Game), so we could add them to our roles. I take it they won't be a carbon copy from the previous games though.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 08 2013 20:13 GMT
#65
If there is another PTP "themed" game, I'd like it if it was like I said before:
The host tells you ALL the bunch of things that will be in the game 100% so you can create the role using those, and hopefully there are enough cool shit in it.
Kind of how Whose Line had points, well maybe you can say "This game WILL have points", and you can create a role that can get points and buy shit or transfer points and that kind of stuff.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 08 2013 21:12 GMT
#67
No, I mean that the host could tell us what mechanics will be in the game, so people can create roles taking that into account, so they can act with synergy later.

For instance, if Grey allowed points in the Whose Line part of the game, he could tell us, so I can create a role with a "Pay 100 points, gain a bazooka" property (for instance).
Same if he allowed a Market for instance (like in Aperture Mafia 1). That way I can create a role that has a "Once per game, you can hack the market and make every item there appear more powerful than it actually is" or something like that.
If lots of people create roles that act around that same mechanic, we can get lots of interesting shit going on.

Also don't worry....I have enough imagination
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 09 2013 05:28 GMT
#74
START THIS NOW GODDAMIT!!!!!


ARGHGHHGHGHGHG
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 09 2013 06:19 GMT
#75
I wish I hosted like 10 themed games per week just to come up with insane roles and shit.
I wouldn't give a crap about actually hosting the game though.

Hmm....maybe I could get a "job" as role creator? I could create any shit you want. Then I give it to a host, and the host balances it in his game.


Like...seriously this shit is so much fun, I'm kind of angry I only get to create 1 role in this game
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 09 2013 06:55 GMT
#78
On February 09 2013 15:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 15:19 gonzaw wrote:
I wish I hosted like 10 themed games per week just to come up with insane roles and shit.
I wouldn't give a crap about actually hosting the game though.

Hmm....maybe I could get a "job" as role creator? I could create any shit you want. Then I give it to a host, and the host balances it in his game.


Like...seriously this shit is so much fun, I'm kind of angry I only get to create 1 role in this game


the last thing we need IMO is people to focus too hard on throwing blues into setups when the forum suffers from people afking or just not playing the game.

Anything beyond vanilla is frosting on the cake that is mafia, and to me a cake made nothing of frosting is pretty sickening (although I don't really like cake...) In other words, if people can't even play vanilla roles, why bother throwing complicated or "fun" roles into the game? Half the time a cool role gets completely wasted by a modkill or replacement and then we have players and hosts who are forced to pick up the pieces afterward (aka deal with the banlist)

This is, of course, just my opinion. Take it how you will.


Well that's not my fault lol.

I could just offer my "super role creation" services only to games where there are no "modkill bait" players that go AFK.

Yeah yeah, that will work.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 09 2013 07:00 GMT
#79
Also wbg, whether the cake is made of nothing but frosting or not doesn't matter.....since the cake is a lie.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 09 2013 07:06 GMT
#80
Also like...that's why the Ban List is there.
If someone gets modkilled/replaced, ban him. The more he does that, the more games you ban him.
Eventually, once the system stabilizes, you'll have no "modkill bait" players, it's the probabilistic stability of the process (or some bullshit like that, I already forgot about it lol)

I guess you could define the way the ban works depending on this. I assume someone that knows his shit can do it so it will actually work.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 10 2013 05:14 GMT
#90
Okay bugs, if i have to make a role for you ill make a boring one then > : (
Dont want to distract you with setup stuff
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 11 2013 04:03 GMT
#115
awesome
Start this bitch
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 11 2013 19:58 GMT
#122
"Good evening and welcome to Themed Game Mafia!
On tonight's show, "I'm evil, because I'm worth it" Loreal nº 1 fan, Yokoya Norihiko!
"Can somehow buy stuff without talking," Crono !
"Clark Gable in a furry convention", Bugs Bunny !
And "What Toy Story should have been..." Blaster Mine Toy !
I'm your host GreYMisT, come on now let's have some fun!

Welcome to Themed Game Mafia, the show where everything is made up and the votes don't matter
That's right, the votes are meaningless, like D1 last minute bandwagons on a townie.
If you've never seen the show before what happens is these four performers are gonna come out, and gonna make everything right off the top of their heads, all based on suggestions from the co-hosts and these roles, which they've never seen before, and don't know what they are.
Then I give them votes, which don't matter at all, like the Ban List.
Then the winner gets to do a little something special with me...*laughs*...ha, there's a reason Toad isn't playing this game, he's waiting for our winner at the end of the show to 'hypnotoad" him into submission if you know what I mean

So let's get started, our first game is called Pick Their Power, this is for all of you.
Here's how it works, each of you will have to come up to the front and create a role for another one of your partners.
What we do is, before the show, we ask the co-hosts to write who they want to give a role to whom, and we are gonna have these guys come up with roles for the guy it says on the card.
Let's start out..."
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 11 2013 22:58 GMT
#126
On February 12 2013 07:54 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 04:58 gonzaw wrote:
"Good evening and welcome to Themed Game Mafia!
On tonight's show, "I'm evil, because I'm worth it" Loreal nº 1 fan, Yokoya Norihiko!
"Can somehow buy stuff without talking," Crono !
"Clark Gable in a furry convention", Bugs Bunny !
And "What Toy Story should have been..." Blaster Mine Toy !
I'm your host GreYMisT, come on now let's have some fun!

Welcome to Themed Game Mafia, the show where everything is made up and the votes don't matter
That's right, the votes are meaningless, like D1 last minute bandwagons on a townie.
If you've never seen the show before what happens is these four performers are gonna come out, and gonna make everything right off the top of their heads, all based on suggestions from the co-hosts and these roles, which they've never seen before, and don't know what they are.
Then I give them votes, which don't matter at all, like the Ban List.
Then the winner gets to do a little something special with me...*laughs*...ha, there's a reason Toad isn't playing this game, he's waiting for our winner at the end of the show to 'hypnotoad" him into submission if you know what I mean

So let's get started, our first game is called Pick Their Power, this is for all of you.
Here's how it works, each of you will have to come up to the front and create a role for another one of your partners.
What we do is, before the show, we ask the co-hosts to write who they want to give a role to whom, and we are gonna have these guys come up with roles for the guy it says on the card.
Let's start out..."



You and I are going to host a game together soon I think


Can I create all the cool roles?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 11 2013 23:01 GMT
#129
On February 12 2013 07:59 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 07:58 gonzaw wrote:
On February 12 2013 07:54 GreYMisT wrote:
On February 12 2013 04:58 gonzaw wrote:
"Good evening and welcome to Themed Game Mafia!
On tonight's show, "I'm evil, because I'm worth it" Loreal nº 1 fan, Yokoya Norihiko!
"Can somehow buy stuff without talking," Crono !
"Clark Gable in a furry convention", Bugs Bunny !
And "What Toy Story should have been..." Blaster Mine Toy !
I'm your host GreYMisT, come on now let's have some fun!

Welcome to Themed Game Mafia, the show where everything is made up and the votes don't matter
That's right, the votes are meaningless, like D1 last minute bandwagons on a townie.
If you've never seen the show before what happens is these four performers are gonna come out, and gonna make everything right off the top of their heads, all based on suggestions from the co-hosts and these roles, which they've never seen before, and don't know what they are.
Then I give them votes, which don't matter at all, like the Ban List.
Then the winner gets to do a little something special with me...*laughs*...ha, there's a reason Toad isn't playing this game, he's waiting for our winner at the end of the show to 'hypnotoad" him into submission if you know what I mean

So let's get started, our first game is called Pick Their Power, this is for all of you.
Here's how it works, each of you will have to come up to the front and create a role for another one of your partners.
What we do is, before the show, we ask the co-hosts to write who they want to give a role to whom, and we are gonna have these guys come up with roles for the guy it says on the card.
Let's start out..."



You and I are going to host a game together soon I think


Can I create all the cool roles?


I might let you name some



I can name them anything....?

Cool, "The Almighty Penis of Alcalá", here I come!
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 12 2013 00:19 GMT
#142
Hi guys im mafia
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 12 2013 00:26 GMT
#146
To the awesome handsome man that will make me a role:

I'd greatly appreciate it if you make me the role of the century. It has to be epic and challenging, but at the same time fun.
I count on you. If you make me a good role I'll have children with you, I promise

Thanks in advance
Your friendly neighbour, gonzaw
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 12 2013 03:45 GMT
#158
I better not see any "almost standard" role here, like I saw in some previous PTP.

If your role doesn't need you to post in tongues in the thread to summon Cthulhu so you can gain +1 Dexterity to kill your enemies all the while you need to seduce a certain player, then don't even bother making a role in the first place
(if you need to seduce a player I volunteer!)
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 12 2013 18:14 GMT
#166
On February 12 2013 21:54 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 12:45 gonzaw wrote:
I better not see any "almost standard" role here, like I saw in some previous PTP.

If your role doesn't need you to post in tongues in the thread to summon Cthulhu so you can gain +1 Dexterity to kill your enemies all the while you need to seduce a certain player, then don't even bother making a role in the first place
(if you need to seduce a player I volunteer!)


my imagination isn't made for this and now you're putting me under all this pressure. Stop it t.t


Come one man! I believe in you!
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 12 2013 21:59 GMT
#172
Oh noes!
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 12 2013 22:37 GMT
#175
Dammit marv, make me a role already!
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 13 2013 02:47 GMT
#247
Nice, game started

Although fuck the dude that gave me a role...I wanted a more awesome one

To guy I made the role to:
You will know it was I who made that role.
You can PM me "I love you, this role is the best ever" at any time
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 13 2013 02:53 GMT
#249
Instant majority seems good.

I'd say we should wait a little bit to see if we have strong town reads to make mayor tomorrow, which could fare better for us if things don't get fucked up.
Then again tomorrow it may be Liar Game Round B and shit might hit the fan or some shit
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 13 2013 03:13 GMT
#257
You know, all the PYP things relate to lynching, so we know there' a lynch next cycle.
Thus we know only these games can take place tomorrow:

Witchcraft
Election
Chrono trigger
Looney thing
Whose line


Nice to know. I want Whose Line!
I want to perform a Hoedown.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 13 2013 03:16 GMT
#259
Well basically (from what I remember in other games) nobody votes at all and keep discussing stuff until they have the balls to lynch someone, just so they don't hammer too soon.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 13 2013 19:57 GMT
#439
Kay im back

I would like to kill randombum today. Stuff he posted seemed too "neutral" and shit, specially that "wall of text" about BH.

Other than that maybe kill BH, he's being his usual trolly scum self, specially with that bad case on Oats.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 13 2013 20:09 GMT
#441
On February 14 2013 05:02 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 04:57 gonzaw wrote:
Kay im back

I would like to kill randombum today. Stuff he posted seemed too "neutral" and shit, specially that "wall of text" about BH.

Other than that maybe kill BH, he's being his usual trolly scum self, specially with that bad case on Oats.


I know you usually to be a gentleman of many words; the Captain of Debates (Cods).

Yet your discourse thus far has been sadly limited, one might say you have given up your place and become the Captain of Rare Pronouncements (Carps).

Is the gentleman not amiable to great discourse with his colleagues?


I skimmed the game and those are my first impressions.
Everything else is null and some pointless discussions.

marv, is this thing of yours a post restriction or are you doing it intentionally?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 13 2013 20:11 GMT
#442
Also nice to see ma nigga playing his role *wink* *wink*
I kind of expect more of you though, I don't want to kill you with that role if you happen to be town.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 13 2013 20:32 GMT
#451
My excitement comes from seeing my role in creation and action. I thought that was obvious in pre-game.
Why are you so jumpy based only on that?

On February 14 2013 05:30 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 05:11 gonzaw wrote:
Also nice to see ma nigga playing his role *wink* *wink*
I kind of expect more of you though, I don't want to kill you with that role if you happen to be town.

Are you saying you want to kill this somebody only if he were town?

How curious.


Come on Dandel, read it again, it's not hard.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 13 2013 23:31 GMT
#498
Sorry for the absence, I was playing PoE.

On February 14 2013 06:17 Blazinghand wrote:
just to be clear: gonzaw is being profoundly useless acting like scum weird posts doesn't make sense blah blah you get the point


I won't say I haven't been "useless", but I haven't been paying much attention to this game and not much has been going on.

Most of the "pointless discussions" were about Oats being scum for saying some stuff about the mayor choice, which I didn't see at all, and you just seemed to nit-pick stuff which didn't seem alignment-indicative at all.
That makes me a little suspicious of you, since you seem to still think Oats is scum and think your reasons are "legit".

Parking your vote on me right now is "easy" as well.

On February 14 2013 06:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 06:06 austinmcc wrote:
On February 14 2013 06:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On February 14 2013 05:59 Blazinghand wrote:
also yeah gonzaw what's your deal are you scum or what

if you vote him i'll sheep you.

Why do you want to lynch Gonzaw?

Cuz he lurks and doesn't say anything useful and/or looking like he's trying to figure the game out.

Both were not things one could attribute him with the game I just played with him, where he was town, so I figure he may well be scum.


I basically joined this game for the PTP part lol
I'm not that invested in the actual mafia game itself, as I was with MTG, but whatever.


I still kind of want to kill randombum, but not many people have done enough stuff for me to get a good scum read on someone.
Stuff like this and this seem too neutral and trying to blend in.

Cheesecake posted some weird stuff I believe, but seemed kind of non-chalant so he may actually be town.
I didn't really notice anything else out of the ordinary in a scummy way.
Dandel is acting weird though, but he's still being a dick as he does as town (last game for instance) so he gives me a slight town gut feeling.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 13 2013 23:33 GMT
#499
I'm interested on why marv thinks my "interest" in pre-game is alignment indicative at all regarding how I'm playing here.
I think I even explicitly said I wouldn't pay much attention to the game in pre-game or something (I don't remember exactly what I posted), so I thought marv would have paid attention to it as well.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 13 2013 23:39 GMT
#500
Yo austin, do you have any reads?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 14 2013 00:25 GMT
#509
You still think Oats will flip scum? What do you say about all the stuff everybody said "in favor" of Oats?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 14 2013 01:49 GMT
#555
I'm trying to emulate my town play...?
Dude, if I was scum trying to "emulate" my town play you wouldn't be calling me scum now (e.g D1 LIX)

On February 14 2013 10:09 Blazinghand wrote:
And just so it's clear: it's not like there's been some big explosion in content between gonzaw being scummy and gonzaw being town-like. Like, if it was the first few posts in the game and everyone was derping around asking about policy or talking about tomorrow's lynch mechanic a few worthless posts would be forgivable but the time that passed between this post
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 05:09 gonzaw wrote:
On February 14 2013 05:02 marvellosity wrote:
On February 14 2013 04:57 gonzaw wrote:
Kay im back

I would like to kill randombum today. Stuff he posted seemed too "neutral" and shit, specially that "wall of text" about BH.

Other than that maybe kill BH, he's being his usual trolly scum self, specially with that bad case on Oats.


I know you usually to be a gentleman of many words; the Captain of Debates (Cods).

Yet your discourse thus far has been sadly limited, one might say you have given up your place and become the Captain of Rare Pronouncements (Carps).

Is the gentleman not amiable to great discourse with his colleagues?


I skimmed the game and those are my first impressions.
Everything else is null and some pointless discussions.

marv, is this thing of yours a post restriction or are you doing it intentionally?


and this one

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 08:31 gonzaw wrote:
Sorry for the absence, I was playing PoE.

On February 14 2013 06:17 Blazinghand wrote:
just to be clear: gonzaw is being profoundly useless acting like scum weird posts doesn't make sense blah blah you get the point


I won't say I haven't been "useless", but I haven't been paying much attention to this game and not much has been going on.

Most of the "pointless discussions" were about Oats being scum for saying some stuff about the mayor choice, which I didn't see at all, and you just seemed to nit-pick stuff which didn't seem alignment-indicative at all.
That makes me a little suspicious of you, since you seem to still think Oats is scum and think your reasons are "legit".

Parking your vote on me right now is "easy" as well.

On February 14 2013 06:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
On February 14 2013 06:06 austinmcc wrote:
On February 14 2013 06:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On February 14 2013 05:59 Blazinghand wrote:
also yeah gonzaw what's your deal are you scum or what

if you vote him i'll sheep you.

Why do you want to lynch Gonzaw?

Cuz he lurks and doesn't say anything useful and/or looking like he's trying to figure the game out.

Both were not things one could attribute him with the game I just played with him, where he was town, so I figure he may well be scum.


I basically joined this game for the PTP part lol
I'm not that invested in the actual mafia game itself, as I was with MTG, but whatever.


I still kind of want to kill randombum, but not many people have done enough stuff for me to get a good scum read on someone.
Stuff like this and this seem too neutral and trying to blend in.

Cheesecake posted some weird stuff I believe, but seemed kind of non-chalant so he may actually be town.
I didn't really notice anything else out of the ordinary in a scummy way.
Dandel is acting weird though, but he's still being a dick as he does as town (last game for instance) so he gives me a slight town gut feeling.


like nothing happened in thread that would give him more info about this stuff, it's just people pressuing him and him realizing he's slipped up

Gonzaw could have showed up and made this quasi-helpful post right away but he did not. And it wasn't dicking around at the start of the game, it was scum-motivated posting pushing scum objectives. his backpedaling to me only further indicates his scumminess


I don't really see why this makes me scum.

I skimmed the game, found those stuff interesting, then I went to play some PoE.

When I came back, I decided to provide some more insightful stuff (even if there wasn't much I could post about). I did see I was getting some "pressure" from some guys (mainly you I guess). Trying to be more helpful could mitigate those suspicions so the whole day wouldn't revolve around me.

I don't get why you just tag some posts as "scum-like" and other posts as "town-like" just like that.

Gonzaw could have showed up and made this quasi-helpful post right away but he did not


I didn't feel the need to post "quasi-helpful" stuff that early (I don't really get what exactly from my post is "quasi-helpful" though) because I felt it was kind of early and I wasn't paying much attention.
I would have preferred more people chiming in before posting "lol I'm null on everybody" and that kind of unnecessary shit.


On February 14 2013 10:09 randombum wrote:
Just got back. I'm currently dis-liking oats and gonzow. Marv too.

Oats. While I defended his original response to BH about his thoughts on mayor, he started to really clutter the thread asking pointless questions and getting really defensive/agitated. Sorta what some others have pointed out.

Gonzow. He called me scum. Seriously though, his play has been lacking focus. He has self admitted that he mainly cared for the role creation part. That might be true, or a mafia excuse to lurk. There's also his reasoning "too neutral" what does that even mean? Is he referring to the part that marv also mentioned where I praise BH after spending a really long post calling him wrong? That's just being polite.


It seemed you posted the BH thing just to blend in.
You posted "safe" "neutral" stuff (or "agreeable" stuff I'd say), then didn't do much at all later.
For instance, this stuff you posted now seems "neutral" as well.
gonzaw
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February 14 2013 02:12 GMT
#565
On February 14 2013 10:58 randombum wrote:
So no matter what I say your going to call it "neutral" and label me scum.

Posts relatively long, but not too specific post agaisnt BH. Too neutral.
Posts concise reads on two players that stood out to him. Too neutral.

I don't like your reasoning at all. Either you are honestly think I'm scum, which would make you wrong, or you are purposely trying to interpret me in a negative light which only mafia would do. So that said

##vote gonzaw.


I never said I was 100% sure you were scum. Those were the things that caught up from your posts, and out of everybody would make me want kill you the most.
But with this OMGUS you are certainly getting there faster.

Also by "neutral" I mean "agreeable" basically.
1-Post that Instant lynch is good
2-Say that BH is acting weird and his case is bad
Now you go against me, which is what's "cool" at the moment apparently.

Tell me, why exactly are you voting me for? Do you agree with what BH said? I didn't see you mention anything about it.

You are OMGUSing, and hell you are even posting how I could be town yet conclude I'm scum with no other additional reason
Either you are honestly think I'm scum, which would make you wrong...


So tell me, why am I not a "townie that is wrong about you" ? You don't post any reasoning other than apparently some sarcasm with the "too neutral" shit up above.
gonzaw
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February 14 2013 19:23 GMT
#671
On February 14 2013 11:40 randombum wrote:
So basically. I don't think your scum, but I want to kill you?


I'm not 100% certain, specially not at that point, but sure out of everybody in the game I wanted to kill you the most.

I posted it not three posts before, are you even reading my filter?

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On February 14 2013 10:09 randombum wrote:
Just got back. I'm currently dis-liking oats and gonzow. Marv too.
[snip]
Gonzow. He called me scum. Seriously though, his play has been lacking focus. He has self admitted that he mainly cared for the role creation part. That might be true, or a mafia excuse to lurk. There's also his reasoning "too neutral" what does that even mean? Is he referring to the part that marv also mentioned where I praise BH after spending a really long post calling him wrong? That's just being polite.


Or in the quote you are responding to.

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On February 14 2013 11:12 gonzaw wrote:
On February 14 2013 10:58 randombum wrote:
So no matter what I say your going to call it "neutral" and label me scum.

Posts relatively long, but not too specific post agaisnt BH. Too neutral.
Posts concise reads on two players that stood out to him. Too neutral.

I don't like your reasoning at all. Either you are honestly think I'm scum, which would make you wrong, or you are purposely trying to interpret me in a negative light which only mafia would do. So that said

##vote gonzaw.




Are you purposely reading my posts the wrong way or are you just bad at this game? Either way its not a very good reason to keep you around.


That first post of yours appeared to just be a comment of sorts. I don't see you calling me scum with that. It's certainly not enough justification for OMGUSing me in that second post. You just say "I don't like gonzaw" and post some wishy-washy stuff about me.

Notice I never called you scum, I just think you are not contributing which can be bad town or scum. That's better than the null reads I have on almost anybody else.


So...you don't think I'm scum?
Seems hypocritical with this in mind:

On February 14 2013 11:40 randombum wrote:
So basically. I don't think your scum, but I want to kill you?


I assume you said this with a negative tone (your whole post has a confrontational tone against me, thus no reason to assume this bit isn't). I assume this makes you "suspicious" against me or something.
Yet you do exactly the same thing...?
You basically don't think I'm scum, but you want to kill me.

You sheep other people's opinions on stuff (on Oats, on me, etc), you OMGUS me with no reasoning at all, and your intentions are contradictory. You attack me like you think I'm scum, but then instantly backpedal into saying I'm just "not contributing so I don't want to keep you around", which is hypocritical with that "suspicion" you posted about me before.
You attacking me makes no sense, and it seems you are just content on sheeping BH and parking your vote on me.

Yeah, I'm fine lynching you today.
##Vote: randombum

I haven't read other people yet though.
gonzaw
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February 14 2013 19:28 GMT
#672
Yeah Duck 2 wins there.
Although Duck 1 could have venomous acne, could pop his zits in Duck 2's face and let him die a slow death.
gonzaw
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February 14 2013 19:38 GMT
#675
Yo marv, care to answer my previous question?

I wouldn't mind lynching Hassy/Sylencia/Cheesecake, but it's like a shot in the dark right now.
I don't remember Xfire and jcralson contribute anything this past 24 hours either.

Kei, you think Oats is scum?
Personally he's not playing like in LIX, where he just antagonized every excerpt of authority and cussed against everybody. Him sheeping people like this is....well dumb, but unlike his previous scum play in my mind, which gives me a town gut feeling one him

On February 15 2013 02:18 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 02:14 austinmcc wrote:
On February 15 2013 02:09 iamperfection wrote:
On February 15 2013 02:07 austinmcc wrote:
I don't love saying Hassy was more active "by a large margin," but for reference: Hassy's filter from the world he started out in in Parallel mafia

At least within his D1, he's actively reading both threads. He discusses the general plan of who to swap where. He asks Foolishness, who was in the other thread, some questions concerning Foolishness's posts. When Darkfire posts his weird claim, Hassy questions Darkfire. When Dieno is being lynched (and after lynch), he's trying to draw conclusions from what was happening.

A lot of his activity was on that first day, and it somewhat tailed off afterwards. I would like to see hassy more active, but I don't currently want to vote him as #1.

then who do you want to kill the most?

I started a post saying gonzaw, but I don't think that's my choice. Pretty sure I'm overvaluing LIX in being willing to lynch him, because there I didn't put enough stock in his activity. Here, he was momentarily Gonzaw after being called out, and then went back to being nothing. That's the same pattern that I didn't value enough in LIX, but the circumstances are also different in that he had a red check there and no red check here.

What I would really like is for Sylencia or Cheesecake to show up and be able to chat with them for like 20 minutes.

I could possibly get behind gonzaw. At first I was against it, but I went back and read Aperture 2 compared to WLIIA. In Aperture, he was thinking about everyone, giving thoughts about everyone, hopping around all over the place. In WLIIA, he focused in on one person (me), and spent the entirety of his time alive talking about me and why I was scum, with very few references towards questioning or commenting on other people.


Considering town Keirathi from WLIIA, this seems too "passive" from you. If you thought I was scum you wouldn't show hesitation to call me out, yet here you just post some stuff that to me even seems rehashed from other times I've played with you if I recall correctly, and don't even seem to have anything to do with this game (you just said how I played in both Aperture and in WLIIA and that's it, you make no conclusion at all)
gonzaw
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February 14 2013 19:48 GMT
#676
On February 15 2013 04:31 randombum wrote:
You know, I was seconds from actually saying I probably overreacted after sleeping on it, but now that just looks silly. Let me respond a bit and end it sense the two of us tunneling on each other is not beneficial.


Hmm, fair enough.
If you'll say you "overreacted" then I'm willing to hear who your other "targets" are, which you haven't yet (other than me)
gonzaw
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February 14 2013 19:53 GMT
#678
On February 15 2013 04:49 austinmcc wrote:
Wait, Gonzaw you think Keirathi has been too passive this game?


Not the game per se (haven't thoroughly read his filter yet though), but with his stance on me.
gonzaw
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February 14 2013 21:12 GMT
#692
On February 15 2013 04:54 randombum wrote:
I'm just going to address your last paragraph since a lot of the top is reasonable. I did attack you when there wasn't much to base it on. Mainly, I just wanted to get something going since at the time there was nothing being discussed and I was bored. So a weak attack (which it is, my whole point is "you are reading me wrong, you are bad/scum") was what came to mind.
But,
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 04:23 gonzaw wrote:

You sheep other people's opinions on stuff (on Oats, on me, etc), you OMGUS me with no reasoning at all, and your intentions are contradictory. You attack me like you think I'm scum, but then instantly backpedal into saying I'm just "not contributing so I don't want to keep you around", which is hypocritical with that "suspicion" you posted about me before.
You attacking me makes no sense, and it seems you are just content on sheeping BH and parking your vote on me.


needs to be addressed. How am I sheeping on other opinions when I'm the only one that attacked you in the way I did? Because other people have attacked you for other reasons? I'll admit I looked harder at you and oats because you two stuck out.


??
When BH made the "case" against me, you OMGUS me out of nowhere, that seemed sheeping to me.
Your previous opinion on me wasn't "original" either, since Dandel and BH had basically posted what you said earlier.

I don't see any backpedaling at all. In the same post where I voted you my reasoning was "Either you are honestly think I'm scum, which would make you wrong, or you are purposely trying to interpret me in a negative light which only mafia would do." then the post after it's " I just think you are not contributing which can be bad town or scum."

Its consistent, perhaps bad, but consistent.


The way you voted for me made it seem like you were convinced I was scum or some shit, there was no "oh I'll just kill you for being useless" tone in your posts.


So would you still lynch me or not? More importantly, do you think I'm scum or not? I don't care if you want to "kill me just because" or something.


On February 15 2013 05:01 Keirathi wrote:
You were attacking me for being passive and not having definitive reads, just probing around. So, if I was doing that in that game, and doing it in this game, why am I actually scum this time?

And also, I beg to differ that I didn't come to a conclusion. I said I would be up for lynching you, then gave an example of your town play and your scum play. Obviously if I thought you were town, I wouldn't want to lynch you. Therefore the obvious implication was that I think you have a good chance of being scum.


Your "analysis" in your post was fluff, you just said how I acted in Aperture and how I acted in WLIIA, without forming any connection with this game at all.
You think I'm acting like WLIIA? If so why didn't you post anything about it in that post? Why didn't you go deeper into it?

Also I dunno if you are scum this time, that's what I want to find out.
gonzaw
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February 14 2013 23:40 GMT
#887
Oh shit I almost missed the deadline

I'm here now, skimmed the thread

I guess I'd be okay with a randombumb lynch, but I'm not so sure about it right now, him backing off me after that "shitty" OMGUS seems kind of weird to do as scum. It won't be happening either way though.

If we want a lynch today, then I'm willing to consolidate onto iamp/Hassy.
I don't have strong scum/town feelings on either of them though. I'd prefer a Hassy lynch over iamp, iamp at least is here in the thread posting stuff, but Hassy hasn't done anything at all.

Haven't really read that much into BH's Oats case but meh it's not convincing.


gonzaw
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February 14 2013 23:47 GMT
#900
##Vote: Hassy

Even if Hassy is a coinflip at this point, I think it's a better lynch than Oats.
I'm not that convinced about the stuff said about Oats
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 14 2013 23:52 GMT
#911
Ah fuck it, if lynching oats is the only way to avoid NL then let's do it

I'm not sure if there will be enough people on board to do so though
gonzaw
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February 14 2013 23:53 GMT
#915
But even if Oats gets 6-7 votes it's not enough.
gonzaw
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February 14 2013 23:54 GMT
#919
We can try at least I guess

##Unvote: Hassy
##Vote: Oats
gonzaw
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February 14 2013 23:54 GMT
#923
So he should have like 6 or 7 votes now right?

Does someone know how many exact votes he has?
gonzaw
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February 14 2013 23:55 GMT
#926
Wow those were some fast votes there
gonzaw
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February 14 2013 23:56 GMT
#938
Okay I counted the roles and there are indeed 9

Thank god this was a nightmare
gonzaw
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February 14 2013 23:57 GMT
#939
*votes
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 15 2013 00:13 GMT
#978
Ah, bollocks.


It's possible that either the role creator thought BH was scum, or was AFK when Oats started getting votes (maybe Hassy is his role creator for instance).
If not then it indeed doesn't make much sense.
gonzaw
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February 15 2013 21:50 GMT
#1102
On February 16 2013 05:19 austinmcc wrote:
gonzaw. What's your read on me?


Considering everybody else, you seem the most townie at the moment.
I guess you could be scum like in Aperture (you were pretty active there), but considering some factors and you contributing quite enough on D1 and stuff I'm not going to bother taking that into account yet.

This game is so frustrating to try and get into. Some players haven't posted anything at all since like 50 hours ago, and everybody else is in this cloudy null pile, some of them not doing much either.
I cba to read everybody's filter too.

From gut feeling I'd say Keirathi (didn't like him just throwing out "yeah lynch gonzaw" without even trying to justify it, and when he did he did so indirectly until I called him out), and maybe Sylencia or another lurker, and maybe another one of the active/semi-active like kita/Kurumi/Dandel/iamperfection/marv.

I have a plan for tonight though. One thing my role creator did right lol.

P.S:
On February 15 2013 09:32 austinmcc wrote:
Role-related

80085

07734

1134


2+2=5...?
lol austin why do you post so much cryptic stuff
gonzaw
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February 15 2013 21:52 GMT
#1108
Dunno what instruction manual you'd like, that's not my fault lol
gonzaw
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February 15 2013 21:54 GMT
#1112
You did?
...
Wait I checked and the first time you mention me is when you post the "Aperture 2 WLIIA" stuff
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 15 2013 21:58 GMT
#1118
Well, I guess I could find an instruction manual for you, with lots of diagrams and pictures and bullet points to make things easier.
But I doubt that'll actually help you
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 16 2013 02:04 GMT
#1171
Jesus Christ...this game....

Who the fuck killed austin? Like seriously, all this game I wanted to see how that role would fare and he gets killed on N1 ffs.
Thanks for ruining my fun dickhead. Now town may as well likely lose so there goes any slight fun I may have without taking into account austin's role.
(If it wasn't obvious I made his role already)


Anyways, last night I "poisoned" someone, who is still alive now. This guy will die in 48 hours from now, which means right as this D2 ends.
However, I can give him an antidote and he won't die.
Thus, if he convinces me he's town, I'll give him the antidote; if he doesn't his scum ass can die in a pool of vomit for all I care.

I'll reveal the name later in the day obviously, but not now
For now I want to see all scum panic thinking I might have poisoned them > : D
Hopefully it makes some townies doing some more stuff as well (if they think I poisoned them), and of course see how scum may react, so I can get a better read on someone.
Like half my slight scum reads got killed last night for some reason so I have no idea wtf is going on now, and I'll probably have to reread everybody in the game again. Hopefully the poison thing is enough to make that easier...

Also Dandel, you better look somewhere else. You misslynch me now and town automatically loses I think.
Not like it matters that much to me anymore though, this game ended with austin's death for all I care, specially with the lack of shit going on in every other department (i.e nothing else is fun either).
Let's see if I can net us some scum with the poison though lol, that'd be nice
gonzaw
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February 16 2013 02:27 GMT
#1176
I guess I wouldn't mind dying if my poison target is scum and I let him die.
That doesn't make us automatically lose right? Or does it?

I'm not 100% confident in that read either though so I can't say for certain. You guys better not fucking hammer me in 10 seconds or some shit if he ends up being town.
gonzaw
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February 17 2013 17:11 GMT
#1321
I thought missing 24 hours would make this day have interesting stuff in it....but apparently not :/
Was not at home yesterday by the way.

On February 17 2013 23:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Gonzaw, who did you poison?


Yeah I might as well come out with it now:
I poisoned iamperfection

Before the night ended, I had some slight suspicions on him on top of others like Kurumi/kita/etc.
He seemed to just post a lot, which kind of made me ignore him. I reread his filter though, and didn't see much content in what he posted, so I found it odd.
I also found that he was not that active, yet when BH+austin decided to create the wagon against him, he becomes like more active, and switches to Hassy, which in my mind seemed basically only because of that (to survive the lynch).

I thought I might as well poison him and see if he stopped posting "useless one-liners" that only make him appear active and see if he would do anything today.

Right now I'm more willing to not save him, he hasn't done the shit I'd expect town iamp to do, and hasn't done shit basically.
He's not under pressure (like on D1) so I'd expect more activity and involvement from him, which hasn't happened, so I'll keep the poison on him for now.

On February 18 2013 01:55 kitaman27 wrote:
Does anyone else find it strange that the person that gonzaw claims to have poisoned hasn't claimed yet? Either the person that was poisoned doesn't want town to know about it or gonzaw hasn't actually used his ability and is lying to us.


My ability doesn't notify anybody about the poison.
gonzaw
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February 17 2013 17:13 GMT
#1323
So the only ones in the chopping block (other than me) are Syl and kita?

I'll read their filters when I find time.
gonzaw
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February 17 2013 17:14 GMT
#1324
On February 18 2013 02:13 kitaman27 wrote:
Huh save him? You're a medic too?


No, I have the antidote for his poison
He's already poisoned and will die in 7 hours or so. However I can give him the antidote and he won't, thus I could "save" him
gonzaw
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February 17 2013 17:27 GMT
#1333
It's not "convenient", it's how my role works. Ask my role creator if you want (I have no idea who he is, although if I find out I'll most likely choke him lol).
Also, it's not "the guy dies right as D2 ends"; it's "the guy dies in 48 hours".
Last night I thought the 48 hours would be up in the middle of N2 or something (because of instant mayority lynch shortening the day), but forgot about Election Mafia >_>

If iamp is red like I'm getting the feeling he is, then killing me wouldn't mark a town loss.
It is 7v4 right now, if you lynch me and scum iamp dies, then it's 6v3, with 2 KP scum can't instantly win (although it'll be LYLO tomorrow)
However a 7v2 scenario would be so much better.

On February 18 2013 02:18 Dandel Ion wrote:
I am not saying iamp is a bad target, he is currently my guess for scum#4. But you basically ask us to lynch somebody else than you, and close our eyes to pray and hope you hit red.
I do not feel willing to do that.


This "plan" of mine didn't really work like I intended it to :/
I kind of wanted everybody to suddenly become very active (in fear I poisoned them), and thus see if iamp becomes more active or not. If he doesn't then it'd basically convince me of him being scum, thus the plan "working". If iamp became more active and involved with town (maybe even seek to be elected or something), then I could be convinced my poison on him is wrong and "save" him.

Right now I'm leaning more red on him, but is not anything certain. If you lynch me though, it's the only chance town gets to not instantly lose, so I hope I didn't fuck it up
gonzaw
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February 17 2013 17:34 GMT
#1340
On February 18 2013 02:29 kitaman27 wrote:
Lets hear your thoughts on syl gonzaw.


I'll need to read his filter, but from a first glance, he lurks but seems to come out at convenient times, like when that stuff with Kurumi happened on D1 I believe, when he parked his vote late D1, and as soon as this D2 started accusing you.
I don't remember him posting other than that.
Seems likely scum at first glance, but like I said I haven't read his filter yet
gonzaw
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February 17 2013 17:36 GMT
#1341
On February 18 2013 02:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 02:27 gonzaw wrote:
It's not "convenient", it's how my role works. Ask my role creator if you want (I have no idea who he is, although if I find out I'll most likely choke him lol).
Also, it's not "the guy dies right as D2 ends"; it's "the guy dies in 48 hours".
Last night I thought the 48 hours would be up in the middle of N2 or something (because of instant mayority lynch shortening the day), but forgot about Election Mafia >_>

If iamp is red like I'm getting the feeling he is, then killing me wouldn't mark a town loss.
It is 7v4 right now, if you lynch me and scum iamp dies, then it's 6v3, with 2 KP scum can't instantly win (although it'll be LYLO tomorrow)
However a 7v2 scenario would be so much better.

On February 18 2013 02:18 Dandel Ion wrote:
I am not saying iamp is a bad target, he is currently my guess for scum#4. But you basically ask us to lynch somebody else than you, and close our eyes to pray and hope you hit red.
I do not feel willing to do that.


This "plan" of mine didn't really work like I intended it to :/
I kind of wanted everybody to suddenly become very active (in fear I poisoned them), and thus see if iamp becomes more active or not. If he doesn't then it'd basically convince me of him being scum, thus the plan "working". If iamp became more active and involved with town (maybe even seek to be elected or something), then I could be convinced my poison on him is wrong and "save" him.

Right now I'm leaning more red on him, but is not anything certain. If you lynch me though, it's the only chance town gets to not instantly lose, so I hope I didn't fuck it up

To reiterate.

the time of the poisoning, it was regularily at the night deadline or could you choose it freely?


No, the death of poisoning happens after "48 hours have passed". I assume that means "after 48 hours have passed from the Day Post".

In any regular cycle it'd be at the end of the Day cycle, but with the Instant Mayority it could have happened on N2, if the day was shortened with a premature lynch
gonzaw
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February 17 2013 17:38 GMT
#1343
Ehmm....actually I'm not sure, I'll have to check with Grey (if it means "48 hours after Day Post" or "48 hours after I sent my poisoning").
I sent it fairly late in the night I think
gonzaw
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February 17 2013 18:41 GMT
#1367
On February 18 2013 03:27 Dandel Ion wrote:
Gonzo I still need your answer:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 02:40 Dandel Ion wrote:
Gonzaw I have one further question:
How often does one live?


??
I dunno, that question doesn't make sense
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 17 2013 19:27 GMT
#1377
On February 18 2013 04:00 iamperfection wrote:
gonzaw did you roleblock me as well?


Nope, my role isn't good enough to have more than 1 ability.

On February 18 2013 04:07 iamperfection wrote:
at least it will be over for me soon

gonzaw you die now your poisoning of me makes no sense
you did not explain why im scum at all
my top town read wants you dead

may you die a horrible death.


1)I didn't poison you initially because I thought you were scum, I poisoned you to put forth my "plan" (or what is left of it)
2)I had reads on the "semi-active" players like you/kita/Kurumi/etc, and I decided to use my poison on one of you. Out of those you were the one I found more suspicious relatively, so I decided to use it on you.

So far as this D2 goes, your play convinces me less and less to give you the antidote. Just look how "active" you were on D1, yet you haven't done anything this D2.

Also, I figured if you were scum you'd OMGUS me.
I figured that you could also try to get to my "good side" trying to get me to give you the antidote, but either way I think scum iamp would react "extremely" to my announcement.

gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 17 2013 19:34 GMT
#1379
I read kita's and Syl's filters and I'm more inclined to lynch Syl.
He seems to appear and be active only when it's convenient, arguing with Kurumi on early D1, parking his vote on Oats without much justification, and in this D2 just pop up to FoS kita based on the role he made for Kurumi.
He seemed "interested" enough in those parts, but not in the rest, unlike other players that just weren't interested in anything at all (cheesecake/hassy/etc).
He has a very likely chance to flip scum
The kurumi thing with kita is odd, but it's not really alignment-indicative since i've seen countless townies make stupid mistakes with night actions. He does seem active and seems he cares though, I would not want him lynched today at all since it seems he's likely to flip town (and thus lose us the game unless iamp is scum).

I can't be confident at all in lynching someone else. Vivax is acting odd as fuck but he's done that as town before (LIX) so I can't risk LYLO on killing him now.
I guess I wouldn't mind killing Cheesecake though, but again it seems like risking it at LYLO. Nobody else has done enough shit to get a good read on them I guess.

##Vote: Sylencia.

Didn't pay much attention to elections, but Dandel seems the one that cares the most, specially after he said he wouldn't be "trying" so I wouldn't mind him getting elected. These elections don't seem to matter that much though, unless those "plans" are stuff like the poisons from D1.

##Elect: Dandel
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 17 2013 19:36 GMT
#1384
I would have expected town iamp to actually figure out if I'm scum, and if he thinks I'm not try to act in a way to convince me to give him the antidote. Or even if he thinks I'm scum, try to figure a plan or something for me to give him the antidote.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 17 2013 19:44 GMT
#1388
On February 18 2013 04:35 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 04:27 gonzaw wrote:
On February 18 2013 04:00 iamperfection wrote:
gonzaw did you roleblock me as well?


Nope, my role isn't good enough to have more than 1 ability.

On February 18 2013 04:07 iamperfection wrote:
at least it will be over for me soon

gonzaw you die now your poisoning of me makes no sense
you did not explain why im scum at all
my top town read wants you dead

may you die a horrible death.


1)I didn't poison you initially because I thought you were scum, I poisoned you to put forth my "plan" (or what is left of it)
2)I had reads on the "semi-active" players like you/kita/Kurumi/etc, and I decided to use my poison on one of you. Out of those you were the one I found more suspicious relatively, so I decided to use it on you.

So far as this D2 goes, your play convinces me less and less to give you the antidote. Just look how "active" you were on D1, yet you haven't done anything this D2.

Also, I figured if you were scum you'd OMGUS me.
I figured that you could also try to get to my "good side" trying to get me to give you the antidote, but either way I think scum iamp would react "extremely" to my announcement.


your an idiot

you poison scum
you didn't explain why im scum at all

what scum traits have i shown in this game??????
am i matching my scum meta(show me examples)

instead you just decided to kill one of the most active players in the game

just die


If I was 100% someone was scum last night I would have poisoned them yes, but I was not.
I had a slight gut feeling on Kei, but not enough to just poison him and die. I thought I'd get a better read of him this D2 to either lynch or leave alone.
Out of the rest, I thought about using the poison to get people to act and get something out of you.
But now that's almost the end of D2 I'm convincing myself you could be scum after all, even if I didn't really believe it when I poisoned initially.

I don't know your meta (other than we playing together in Aperture 2), but from what I've read from austin's posts and stuff you acted like this as scum before.
I don't remember you doing the "post useless one-liners" and stuff in Aperture 2, but apparently you did so in GSL something.

On February 18 2013 04:37 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 04:36 gonzaw wrote:
I would have expected town iamp to actually figure out if I'm scum, and if he thinks I'm not try to act in a way to convince me to give him the antidote. Or even if he thinks I'm scum, try to figure a plan or something for me to give him the antidote.

how the fuck would be able to convince you to give me the antidote if you are scum.


I don't know dude. I would have expected you acting differently though, or at least try.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 17 2013 19:47 GMT
#1390
On February 18 2013 04:43 iamperfection wrote:

im gonna go with marv, gonzaw, Mr.cc , Kita scum team

i will be back before the lynch

gonzaw if you are town ... i just dont know what to say besides your bad since you killed me a very easily readable player just because you felt like it and your plan was stupid.

i dont understand why guys in this game thought i was scum when i clearly cared about the lynch and was trying to save my town read to lynch useless lurkers. Maybe in some alternate universe that is scummy but i dont know im just very frustrated with this game

on top of a shit role i got a shit town.


You seem to forget I still could still give you the antidote which is what this whole plan of mine was about
Even if we lynch today, since it's instant mayority, if it happens before elections finish I could technically still give you the antidote.
After I saw the day post that seemed like a good choice to "plan" for me as well.

Jesus christ dude. You just act like I vig shot you instantly or something, I don't get it why you accuse me like that out of nowhere.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 17 2013 19:51 GMT
#1397
On February 18 2013 04:48 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 04:47 gonzaw wrote:
On February 18 2013 04:43 iamperfection wrote:

im gonna go with marv, gonzaw, Mr.cc , Kita scum team

i will be back before the lynch

gonzaw if you are town ... i just dont know what to say besides your bad since you killed me a very easily readable player just because you felt like it and your plan was stupid.

i dont understand why guys in this game thought i was scum when i clearly cared about the lynch and was trying to save my town read to lynch useless lurkers. Maybe in some alternate universe that is scummy but i dont know im just very frustrated with this game

on top of a shit role i got a shit town.


You seem to forget I still could still give you the antidote which is what this whole plan of mine was about
Even if we lynch today, since it's instant mayority, if it happens before elections finish I could technically still give you the antidote.
After I saw the day post that seemed like a good choice to "plan" for me as well.

Jesus christ dude. You just act like I vig shot you instantly or something, I don't get it why you accuse me like that out of nowhere.

you mention me once the entire game it makes no sense


Yes it does, reread my posts.

On February 18 2013 04:49 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 02:11 gonzaw wrote:

Right now I'm more willing to not save him, he hasn't done the shit I'd expect town iamp to do, and hasn't done shit basically.
He's not under pressure (like on D1) so I'd expect more activity and involvement from him, which hasn't happened, so I'll keep the poison on him for now.



You expect more activity and involvement? When I was checking some stuff yesterday, iamp had by some margin the 2nd largest filter. What exactly were you expecting, gonzaw?


I expected more "activity and involvement" this D2.
If you check his filter, like 90% of his posts come from D1/N1. The only thing I remember him doing this D2 is saying "I support dandel" and him asking some questions to you I think.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 17 2013 19:54 GMT
#1399
*sigh*

Compare it with his previous play this game marv.
Cheesecake was AFK the whole D1, as this D2 as well. That sucks but at least is consistent
Dandel was active both D1 and D2, no problems there.
iamp was pretty "active" on D1, but now hasn't done anything I can remember. That's not consistent, which is odd specially if this is LYLO or close to LYLO.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 17 2013 19:54 GMT
#1401
Anyways I have to run some errands, so I'll be back later I guess
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 17 2013 22:45 GMT
#1463
On February 18 2013 06:56 iamperfection wrote:
also if gonzaw wants to give me the antidote he can just do it.

but he wont probally because he is scum
he still has not produced evidence at all on why i am mafia.

I won't decide what to do with the antidote until the last second, so I don't fuck up prematurely.
So please stop posting stupid stuff like that for christ's sake.

Now I'm not that sure what to think of you. My gut says scum because of what I said previously (which is in fact "produce evidence you are scum" which you somehow didn't read), and I think you are likelier to flip scum than most other players in this game. Then again you do seem more involved than half the players in this game.
Argh I dunno if I should take that into account though.

Your activity this D2, wait...not just your activity, your involvement this D2 dropped like a fly. You made some useless posts asking some random questions at the beginning of D2 then disappeared until I said I was poisoning you basically.
Then you FoS me back with this "wow is me" attitude and how "lol you would have poisoned scum if you were town but im town so you are scum" thing which doesn't make sense, and you even failed to read the "plan" I had.
This doesn't go in your favour at all.

On February 18 2013 07:28 Dandel Ion wrote:
meh I'm fine with lynching vivax but I kinda wanna lynch gonzaw first.

He has KP.

My poison is one-shot, I don't have any more

Vivax, why are you electing me if you want to lynch me? Wtf?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 17 2013 22:56 GMT
#1465
So you will elect someone that is going to get lynched (or you would like to get lynched)...?
How does that make sense at all?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 18 2013 00:37 GMT
#1552
Sorry I was not on my PC for the deadline.
I chose not to give iamp the antidote, he hadn't done anything to convince me otherwise, and I thought I was getting lynched so it was the only way for town to not instantly lose.

...so did he flip scum?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 18 2013 00:38 GMT
#1553
Anyways dibs on inventor.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 18 2013 21:00 GMT
#1627
Can someone just shoot me tonight?

We are going to lose and I don't want to be in this game another cycle, nor get misslynched.
If scum want to shoot me I'd gladly accept it as well, I have no vet status and my role sucks (thanks Cheesecake).

Maybe Dandel is mafia after all....bleh.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 18 2013 22:39 GMT
#1636
Dandel, marv, Cheesecake, jcarlson

I think this may be the scumteam, just want to see if I got it right before this game ends.
Although...meh not so sure about jcarlson. I'm leaning towards him because of letting BH die on D1 without saying a single thing.
If not jcarlson maybe Crossfire.

kita is not scum, he would not do be here right before deadline trying to convince people to lynch a townie instead of another townie, he could have easily stayed put and let me die and tunnel sylencia after I flip town.

I think Dandel and marv are scum together. Look how much they buddied up on D2. marv just parked his vote on me the whole D2 and did nothing else. Dandel did something similar but posted enough to make up for appearances.

Cheesecake didn't do shit all game and didn't even try to chime in when my whole poisoning thing was going on. I'd think at that point he'd claim he made my role and maybe vouch for me or something, but clearly he didn't give a fuck about it.

.....oh fuck forgot about Stutters....
...well I guess he could be scum instead of jcarlson. Just put Stutters/jcarlson/Crossfire as the last scum, but I think I got the 1st 3 right.

Pre-edit: Welp, didn't think I'd agree with Vivax like this in any game before lol.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 18 2013 22:43 GMT
#1639
Right, so why did you say "double-lynch kita+gonzaw" and not "double-lynch gonzaw+Vivax"?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 18 2013 22:46 GMT
#1641
On February 19 2013 07:43 Dandel Ion wrote:
buddying with marv.
lol.
You can't be serious.
You can't be.


Dude just see how all chitty-chatty you were when both of you got elected.
You didn't even flinch when he got elected, yet started talking to him like he was your best buddy (about the plans and shit).
You had won the game with the syl lynch plus my poison kill, it makes sense you guys would just troll in-thread with the elected roles and deciding the "plans" just to rub it in our faces.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 18 2013 22:54 GMT
#1644
On February 19 2013 07:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 07:46 gonzaw wrote:
On February 19 2013 07:43 Dandel Ion wrote:
buddying with marv.
lol.
You can't be serious.
You can't be.


Dude just see how all chitty-chatty you were when both of you got elected.
You didn't even flinch when he got elected, yet started talking to him like he was your best buddy (about the plans and shit).
You had won the game with the syl lynch plus my poison kill, it makes sense you guys would just troll in-thread with the elected roles and deciding the "plans" just to rub it in our faces.

I didn't care because his elected role was absolutely useless and whatever he'd forward me, I could always just dismiss anyways.

And what did you do during that time? Oh yeah. absolutely jack shit.
You pretended to ask for iamp's flip as if you didn't know how it was gonna turn out and just went straaaaaaight back to lurking.


We lost with the Syl lynch, i didn't plan on doing anything, you are right, why would I bother?
I think we may have had a chance if iamp flipped scum though, but after thinking about it I think it was pointless anyways.

Also no, "didn't care" is not what it sounded like. And the buddying I mentioned was not just that, but also you completely ignoring iamp's push of marv as well instead parking your vote on me and just being there, just as marv (but not so obvious like I said), conveniently both ignoring each other when both of you tunneled me. That is classic scum tactics, I think VE and Toad did something similar in LI.


Anyways, I actually retract the "please kill me thing". I want to be alive tomorrow to get inventor.
We can use a role we chose the same D3 right?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 18 2013 22:54 GMT
#1645
On February 19 2013 07:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 07:46 gonzaw wrote:
On February 19 2013 07:43 Dandel Ion wrote:
buddying with marv.
lol.
You can't be serious.
You can't be.


Dude just see how all chitty-chatty you were when both of you got elected.
You didn't even flinch when he got elected, yet started talking to him like he was your best buddy (about the plans and shit).
You had won the game with the syl lynch plus my poison kill, it makes sense you guys would just troll in-thread with the elected roles and deciding the "plans" just to rub it in our faces.


I...what?

???
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 18 2013 22:56 GMT
#1648
On February 19 2013 07:55 Vivax wrote:
Where did I miss the part where we already lost the game gonzaw?


When yesterday was LYLO and we misslynched.....?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 18 2013 22:59 GMT
#1652
On February 19 2013 07:57 Vivax wrote:
Why are you so eager to get that role then.


To create some fun stuff before the game is over.
I love inventor roles.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 18 2013 23:02 GMT
#1654
I always wondered if you could create "encapsuled roles" or something, I never tried.

Like, create a role just like in PTP, but make it work just for 1 cycle. Kind of like a "role-suit" a player can put on and his role gets replaced with that one for one cycle
You can only create "objects" with inventors, not roles; but maybe you can encapsulate a role inside an "object", theoretically

I'll try that tomorrow and see if it works
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 00:58 GMT
#1702
This game is still going? We are at 3v3 o_O
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 19 2013 01:02 GMT
#1703
Well, seems Dandel is town after all.

You know fuck this shit, I'll just sheep with those votes. I still think we are most likely going to lose, but well there's a chance I guess.

Also, nice 2nd spot, maybe I can get inventor then

##Vote: Crossfire99
##Vote: jcarlsoniv

gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 19 2013 17:53 GMT
#1777
1->2->1

Is f(x)= x²-2x+2 if it helps (or f(x)= -x²+2x+1 if it starts with 0 )

Hey Dandel. did you check someone last night? I think I remember you being DT or some shit
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 18:04 GMT
#1781
On February 20 2013 02:56 Dandel Ion wrote:
I claimed what i did last night.

RB RB shoot.


Well yeah, but maybe you didn't claim the DT thing I dunno
I guess it was one-shot then.

Also am I doing this lazer shit right?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 19 2013 18:27 GMT
#1806
Finally holy crap
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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Last Edited: 2013-02-19 18:31:45
February 19 2013 18:31 GMT
#1812
I still hate you guys for shooting austin
It was the plan of marv the mafia traitor ;_;

I guess it was for the greater good though...

Anyways, I'm such a pro scum player i convinced everybody I was town on 3v3 fuck yeah /sarcasm
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 18:32 GMT
#1814
How the hell was Dandel's ability allowed
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 19 2013 18:33 GMT
#1815
Like seriously

30 points to have a night KP? And he gains like 10000 points if people even as slightly mention his name or quote him?
wtf
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 19 2013 18:36 GMT
#1822
On February 20 2013 03:34 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 03:31 gonzaw wrote:
I still hate you guys for shooting austin
It was the plan of marv the mafia traitor ;_;

I guess it was for the greater good though...

Anyways, I'm such a pro scum player i convinced everybody I was town on 3v3 fuck yeah /sarcasm


Not me, your reactions in the chat to my questions made me think you were pretty scummy lol.
But couldn't tell you you're scum in your face, it gives you reason to act indignant and stop talking.


I was "town" enough for you to mason me in the first place and Dandel to give me a "he's like confirmed town" read at the end of N3...

......you 2 were actually joking right? Please tell me you were
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 18:39 GMT
#1827
Oh wait Keirathi was playing this game too lol I forgot

I forgot to include him in my "who made whose role" calculations I think
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 18:43 GMT
#1836
On February 20 2013 03:40 Vivax wrote:
Yeah, I thought you were town when I chose you as mason, but as you notice from my bluff I didn't trust you in the chat after talking a little.

I was curious to see how crossfire would react fearing that you would die with me.

And anyway, picking mafia as first officer shows you're mafia if I get NKd, so it wouldn't have turned out badly under other circumstances.


Why the hell did you pick me O_o
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 19 2013 18:48 GMT
#1839
On February 20 2013 03:45 Vivax wrote:
Just look at whom I called scum before Dandel shot marv, that's why.


I mean why did you pick me as your first officer
You have to do that in D1 right?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 19 2013 18:49 GMT
#1841
Oh right

I blame Hassy then
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 19 2013 18:50 GMT
#1842
On February 20 2013 03:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 03:32 Keirathi wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:26 Keirathi wrote:
On February 20 2013 03:20 jcarlsoniv wrote:
My role was fucking terrible. I had to wait until N3 to be able to do anything at all. Was prepared to shoot kita tonight though.

Unfortunately, I didn't have enough time at my disposal the first 2 days because of things that kept coming up, so I couldn't actually be of any use.

Sry guys. I blame my role creator.

My intention was for you to be able to vig night 2.


Then it needed to be worded differently. I asked grey, morning of D1 I only had 25 energy. Believe me, if I had a vig shot N2 it would've gone I kita's skull.

You started D1 with 25 energy. When n1 started, you should have had 50. When D2 started, you should have had 75. When n2 started, you should have had 100.

At least that was the way I originally worded it, unless GreYMisT changed it.


Welcome to Themed game Mafia! You are the Infestor! You start with 25 energy, and gain 25 energy per phase (with the daypost).

Only got energy with the day post.

Needless to say, it SUCKS not having a power in a game where everyone has ridiculous powers.


Hey dude, I was a shitty delayed standard vig if it makes you feel any better
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 18:53 GMT
#1846
Hey austin, did you buy any ability at night? Or did you just hoard JP points?

Also Grey, what are the "hidden" bonus JP austin could have gotten? I assume you changed the ones I knew right?
(if it's in the spreadsheet I can't see it, for some reason my browser skips cell 12 which is austin's one lol)
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 18:55 GMT
#1847
Also Grey why didn't you tell austin about "Nice Post Restriction 2!" when D1 ended?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 19 2013 18:57 GMT
#1849
Well supposedly Grey should have "balanced" the role if indeed the abilities were too expensive >_>

You could have Roleblocked everybody that had a prime number of posts though, that would have been fun! (and you had the JP to do that N1 I think)
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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Last Edited: 2013-02-19 19:01:17
February 19 2013 19:00 GMT
#1850
Paralyze = 100 JP
Postcount = 250 JP
5 = 200 JP

You started with 500 JP, plus 100 for living one cycle, plus 50 for "Nice post restriction!", making it 650 JP

100+250+200= 550 JP

You had enough JP to do that austin!
If you chose "Visits" (150 JP ) instead of "Post count" (250 JP) it would have been 100 JP cheaper as well

EDIT: You could have also done Postcount+Prime+Paralyze that costs exactly 650 JP which is what you had.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
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February 19 2013 19:04 GMT
#1852
Yeah you were supposed to gain JP at the end of every cycle
I even told Grey how to do it:

Original Message From gonzaw:
Role Name: The Calculator
Target: austin

Role PM:
+ Show Spoiler [Role PM] +
Welcome to Themed Game Mafia, you are the Calculator!
You somehow escaped from the Final Fantasy Tactics world, and appeared in this desolate land. You must do anything in your power to survive....and kill those in your way.

You can use JP (Job Points) to buy abilities and use them.
You start with 500 JP, and can buy any ability at any time by PMing the host
"##Buy: [name of ability]", as long as you have enough JP to do so

Your ability works like this though:
There are several "Action Abilities", that perform actions on certain targets. However, the way you decide who to target is special. You can't target players directly; instead, you choose an algorithm that determines the targets of your ability.
There are 2 algorithms you must choose to do so: "Base" algorithms and "Targeting" algorithms.
Base algorithms: It's an attribute about each player that will be taken into account when targeting. It should be numerical.
Targeting algorithms: Determines which of those attributes will determine your target, using arithmetics.
If the targeting algorithm of your choice is "5", then this means that you will target every player in the game whose numerical attribute (Base algorithm) is a multiple of 5. Same if you choose "3" or "4" or "Prime".
You can use only 1 action ability each night. To use so, you must PM the host:
##[Base algorithm]-[Targetting algorithm]: [Action ability]

For example: "##Postcount-Prime: Cure", which will cure every player whose postcount is a prime number.
You can also buy Support Abilities. These abilities are passive and are applied to you as soon as you buy them.

You can also gain JP by doing special things throughout the game.
There are also "special" ways you can gain JP, which won't be disclosed, so try to do crazy things and see if you can gain more JP!
Once you fulfilled a way to gain JP, the host will report to you how much you won and how at the end of the cycle you've done so.
If you find out these "special" ways to get JP, you can get Bonus JP depending on how many different ways you have found.

You can gain JP in these ways:
+ Show Spoiler [Gain JP] +

Living:
You gain JP by each cycle you are still alive
Gain: 100 JP

Early Lynch Vote:
You gain JP if you are between the first 5 voters (unvoting resets the voting queue) of a lynch
Gain: 150 JP

Focus:
You gain JP if you manage to use an ability on a single player
Gain: 100 JP

Mass-targetting:
You gain JP if you manage to use an ability on EVERYBODY
Gain: 300 JP

Nice post restriction!:
You gain JP if you manage to include a math related term or phrase in at least 10 posts in a cycle
Can only be used once, and can only be used before claiming
Gain: 50 JP



Bonus JP:
+ Show Spoiler [Bonus JP] +
JP Bonus:
You gain bonus JP as you do more of these "hidden" ways to obtain JP
It is accumulative
Do 3 of them: 50 JP
Do 4 of them: 100 JP
Do 5 of then: 200 JP
Do 6 of them: 300 JP
Do ALL of them: 500 JP


Here follows what Arithmetic abilities you can get:

Targeting Algorithms:
+ Show Spoiler [Targeting Algorithms] +

Prime:
An algorithm for targeting players whose specified attribute is a prime number
Cost: 300 JP

5:
An algorithm for targeting players whose specified attribute is a multiple of 5
Cost: 200 JP

4:
An algorithm for targeting players whose specified attribute is a multiple of 4
Cost: 400 JP

3:
An algorithm for targeting players whose specified attribute is a multiple of 3
Cost: 600 JP


Base Algorithms:
+ Show Spoiler [Base Algorithms] +

Visits:
Base arithmetic algorithm on the target's number of visitors (i.e how many people visit him) that night.
Cost: 150 JP

Post Count:
Base arithmetic algorithm on the target's Post Count
Applies to the previous Day cycle
Cost: 250 JP

Post time average:
Base arithmetic algorithm on the target's post time average
Applies to the previous Day cycle. It takes the average of the posting time of a player, and takes the hour from it
Cost: 300 JP

Voting:
Base arithmetic algorithm on the target's number of votes (he has done) this game.
Unvoting and voting the same player counts as a new vote, as does unvoting and voting a new player.
Cost: 400 JP

Username length:
Base arithmetic algorithm on the target's username length
Cost: 700 JP


These are the Support abilities you can get:
+ Show Spoiler [Support Abilities] +

Doublecast:
Allows you to perform 2 action abilities on each night
Cost: 1500 JP

Day Calculator:
Allows you to perform an action ability in each day cycle as well as at a night cycle
Every action ability will change accordingly if it's used in a Day cycle
Cost: 1000 JP

Gained JP up:
Gains 50% more JP for each action that nets you JP
Cost: 500 JP



These are the Action Abilities you can get:
+ Show Spoiler [Action Abilities] +

Cure:
Cures target for 0.5 HP
If a target is cured for 1 HP, then it needs 1 more KP to be killed
Cost: 400 JP

Flare:
Desl 0.5 KP to target
Cost: 900 JP

Poison:
Gives target 1 poison counter every phase. Deals 0.5 KP to him after 3 counters have expired.
Target will be notified about being poisoned.
The counter will expire in the exact cycle it was cast 3 phases from now
Cost: 150 JP

Paralyze:
Prevents target from doing any action that night (i.e Roleblock)
Cost: 100 JP

Slow:
The target will be slowed, therefore any night action he does this cycle will resolve in the next one
Cost: 150 JP

Reflect:
Actions done on the target (that same night) will be done on the actor instead
Cost: 500 JP

Persuade:
Target has 1 more vote in the next Day cycle
Cost: 200 JP

Threaten:
Target can't vote in the next Day cycle
Cost: 300 JP

Protect:
Protects the target from 1 KP
Cost: 800 JP


Host info:
+ Show Spoiler [Host info] +


1)There are 7 "hidden" ways to get JP, these are the ones I thought of:
+ Show Spoiler [Hidden JP] +
Vote changing:
You gain JP if you change your vote more than 3 times in a day cycle
Gain: 150 JP


Wtf you doing mate!?:
You gain JP if you target yourself with a harmful ability
Gain: 200 JP


Near-death experience:
You gain JP if at any point in a day cycle you gain more than half the votes, but don't end up getting lynched
Only in Lynch cycles
Gain: 400 JP


Popular kid:
You gain JP if more than 2 players visit you at night on a single night.
Gain: 250 JP


Pathological Liar:
You gain JP if you lie about your role in any way when you claim (hiding information is not considered lying)
Can be used only once
Gain: 100 JP


Pretty Colors!:
You gain JP if you use the bolded green, bolded red, and bolded blue colors in a post of yours at least once each
Gain: 75 JP


ANGRY CALCULATOR SMASH!:
You gain JP if you make a post only in caps-lock that's longer than 1 line.
"Nice post restriction 2!" doesn't count for this
Gain: 25 JP


2)About Base Algorithms:
Most Base algorithms refer to the previous cycle, so the player can plan what to do with fixed numbers that aren't constantly changing that cycle.
Those are:
  • Postcount
  • Post time average

More info about the Base algorithms:
Voting:
Takes into account all votes a player made in the game. Different votes are considered if there is a corresponding unvote, or if the game mechanic allows it. If it's done in the Day cycle (with the use of the "Day Calculator" ability), then it takes into account current votes as well
Post count:
Takes into account the number of posts that player made in the game alone (not total post count)
Visits:
Takes into account the number of people visiting that player in the same cycle. If it's used in the Day, then it takes into account the current visits he had as well

3)Sequence of "Ways to gain JP":
Firstly, the guy should be shown the ways from his role PM.
Once he does "Nice post restriction!", then he unlocks "Nice post restriction 2!", and it must be shown to him:

Nice post restriction 2!:
You gain JP if you manage to make a post with only the words "YOUR CALCULATIONS ARE INCORRECT!" in it, in a cycle.
Can only be used once, and can only be used before claiming
Gain: 100 JP


Once he does "Nice post restriction 2!", then he unlocks "Nice post restriction 3!", and it must be shown to him:

Nice post restriction 3!:
You gain JP if you manage to include the name of every single ability in posts of yours in a cycle.
This includes abilities you haven't bought yet as well.
Can only be used once, and can only be used before claiming
Gain: 200 JP


Once he has done all the "visible" ways to gain JP, he unlocks the "ultimate" way to gain JP:

ULTIMATE JP POWER!:
This is the ultimate way to gain JP. You gain JP when in a cycle, you are the first one to place a vote on someone that ends up lynched, that player has more than 75% of the votes from other players, and nobody else is voting you.
Can only be used once
Gain: 500 JP


4)About the "hidden" ways to get JP:
No matter which ones you choose yourself, they can only be done once per cycle. You can make them one-shot (thus can only be done once in the game), or not, but at the very least they can be done once per cycle only (so he can't abuse "easy" ones).

This means that if he "fulfills" it twice in the same cycle for instance, he only gets a reward as if he had done 1.

5)Bonus points:
Once the player does one of the "hidden" ways to gain JP, then it counts as 1 for the Bonus JP section. If he does the same one again in a next cycle, it doesn't count as a new one. The Bonus JP section only relates to "different" ways.

6)When reporting new JP:
At the end of a cycle, if the player is still alive, you should tell him how much JP he got from the "ways to gain JP".
You should tell him how much JP he got from each "way" he fulfilled, but also tell him the name of the way that gave him JP.
This includes the "hidden" ways.
For example:
Pathological Liar: You got 100 JP!
Living: You got 100 JP!
Total JP Gained this cycle: 200 JP
Total JP: [total number of JP that player has at the moment]



gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 19:08:42
February 19 2013 19:08 GMT
#1854
No, a phase is day/night, a cycle is day or night separately

Wouldn't make sense to not know how much JP you gained on D1 before deciding to buy abilities to use at N1.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 19:10 GMT
#1856
Ehm....Grey did know that....right? >_>
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 19:12:04
February 19 2013 19:11 GMT
#1857
On February 20 2013 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 04:08 gonzaw wrote:
No, a phase is day/night, a cycle is day or night separately

Wouldn't make sense to not know how much JP you gained on D1 before deciding to buy abilities to use at N1.

No, a cycle is both day and night phases.


Then what is "Day"? What is "Night"?
They are cycles.
Day cycle
Night cycle

D1 plus N1 makes "Phase 1", or "Day/Night 1".

No matter what it actually means, it's clear in the notes I posted what I meant with those terms

EDIT: Wasn't another role that used the same "phase" phrase as well? Vivax's role I think?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 19:13:59
February 19 2013 19:13 GMT
#1858
Here:
Welcome to Themed game Mafia! You are the Infestor! You start with 25 energy, and gain 25 energy per phase (with the daypost).


EDIT: jcarl did indeed gain 25 energy per phase as it was posted there (he got energy with the day post only)
So Grey did take this meaning of phase/cycle into account then
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 19:15 GMT
#1860
Seems I had the wrong definition of that since I've started playing then :/
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 19:22 GMT
#1861
austin in obs qt
Gonzaw scum.

He made my role. That should have been obvious. My role flipped with hidden ways to gain currency. I was asking him to reveal those when I was talking about my instruction manual. The fact that he said he had a town read on me, but wouldn't reveal the hidden ways to get extra currency makes it almost certain he's scum. Plus, you know, the way he's been playing the game.


dude, I told you in pms I didn't know about them right after you died
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 22:48 GMT
#1897
On February 20 2013 04:28 austinmcc wrote:
Definitely seems to be key to make it very clear how you want everything to work. I know, like Gonzaw, I included a section of notes to Grey on how things should work, and he notified me of anything that he changed (originally, I had it so that Cpt. Picard could choose scum for a first officer and that scum would still bodyguard him - kill a scum, but then you lose your first officer and the role doesn't get passed down).

In terms of lessons learned for future PTP games, being super clear on how the role works seems like a good idea, and adding some more healing/protective powers seems like a good idea. Most of us went for offense, or gave people the OPTION for defense (except the support role, which had pure defense built in. Any others?), and it meant a very, very quick end to the game.


I thought I was pretty clear with it :/
Grey did ask me stuff in pre-game (about the role) when I was "brain-storming" with him
But once I sent the role in PTP phase he didn't have any questions so I thought it was clear >_>
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 22:51 GMT
#1898
On February 20 2013 04:46 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 03:53 gonzaw wrote:
Hey austin, did you buy any ability at night? Or did you just hoard JP points?

Also Grey, what are the "hidden" bonus JP austin could have gotten? I assume you changed the ones I knew right?
(if it's in the spreadsheet I can't see it, for some reason my browser skips cell 12 which is austin's one lol)


I didnt change a single one. WIFOM


lol
you so lazy grey

Anyways austin, you could have shouted to people and post in pretty colors and change your vote a lot. That could have net you like 300 JP or something
Why would you think me wanting you to write "BOOBS" in numbers would be something I'd put in the role.....? >_> <_<
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 22:53 GMT
#1899
Also austin, my role wasn't "offensive". As you can see the KP costed like 900KP.
(Well, the RB was cheap, but I thought Grey would have made it more expensive when he and Hope "balanced" the role >_> )

I had protect+cure for 800+400 JP each you could have used.
Also I tried to put more "support" and stuff that isn't just "KP" or "Protect", like the one that gives someone 1 more vote, etc.

I tried to think of more, but couldn't
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 19 2013 23:43 GMT
#1901
Also hey! First scum win in like a century for me!
It must mean this was the performance of the century for me! (.......yeah >_> ).

Also yeah, you guys should really read our IRC chat from the Syl lynch, it was hilarious.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 00:22:15
February 20 2013 00:16 GMT
#1905
On February 20 2013 09:03 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 07:51 gonzaw wrote:
Anyways austin, you could have shouted to people and post in pretty colors and change your vote a lot. That could have net you like 300 JP or something
Why would you think me wanting you to write "BOOBS" in numbers would be something I'd put in the role.....? >_> <_<
I figured maybe there was some calculator-specific stuff in the hidden things. I referenced Phoenix and Falldown, the two graphing calculator games I remember (shoutouts to high school and TI-82 or 83!). I tried all the number combinations that spelled out words that were funny when I was in middle school. That was about all I could think of to try for calculator specific, except I thought about claiming to be charging based on solar energy or something, except then I'd have to convince people I wasn't venosaur or whatever pokemon it is.

I dunno, there was just NO indication as to what "hidden" ways were. It made them sound very secretive, and like they were different from the normal ways, which were all related to the game itself. So I was trying to post whatever I could calculator-specific or me-specific, thinking maybe those would trigger things.


The point for me was for you to get them without "trying", and then be like "wow how the fuck did I gain JP?" and try and figure out what you did or what happened to you
Thus I tried putting stuff that you could make without trying (like the color stuff, or changing your vote a lot). Not post obscure stuff that you wouldn't do at all otherwise lol

I put the "there are hidden things so act crazy!" also to, in a way, make you do funny shit trying to figure out the hidden ways so I could laugh at you....which kind of happened

Also you should be ashamed of your "math" breadcrumbs
(fibo)nac(ci) ? Come on dude


EDIT: Also by "act crazy" I kind of wanted you to do stuff with your vote, or abilities at night, or have people do crazy stuff on you, etc, not just "post" stuff, just posting "references" seems too "simple" and "basic" to me to consider "crazy".

For instance, I could have added these ones:
Spammer:
Make 10 consecutive posts to gain JP
Gain: 75 JP

Jester:
Vote for yourself
Gain: 50 JP

Mass-quoter:
Have more than 10 quotes in a single post of yours
Gain: 100 JP

That kind of stuff I was talking about. That kind of "crazy" stuff.

For instance, I thought the "claim but lie about your role" thing was nice. If you ever wanted to do "crazy" stuff, fake-claiming would be part of it (and would also be funny/etc), thus it would reward you with that hidden way
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 20 2013 00:22 GMT
#1907
I thought he could do better :/

Yeah some were fine though lol
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 20 2013 00:23 GMT
#1910
Also why did nobody even try to do anything regarding post restrictions?
Those are so funny at times!

I thought having a post restriction that wasn't mandatory would be a good idea. That way if the guy doesn't want to deal with it, let him, but if he wants he can get a reward.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 20 2013 00:24 GMT
#1911
On February 20 2013 09:23 austinmcc wrote:
Also, maybe i could have done better/posted more if SOMEBODY'S TEAM DIDN'T SHOOT ME. Just sayin'.


Don't blame me I wanted you alive
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 20 2013 00:30 GMT
#1914
YOu know, it would have been funny if ONLY scum had postcounts multiple of 5 and you somehow could RB all of us lol

...


AHA! I had 29 posts! So I wouldn't have been RBed

Also I thought it was clear, but for post-count I meant posts made since the game started, not taking into account pre-game posts....
...although maybe it could be taken into account (to make counting more simple)
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 20 2013 01:56 GMT
#1926
Anyways, I'll most likely just not join any games soon, because I'll most likely get scum again >_>

I'll join some game when I have at least some motivation to play as scum.
Probabilities seem to be failing me ;_;
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