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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 06 2013 10:47 GMT
#17
/in

Shan't be modkilled.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 06 2013 15:38 GMT
#27
On February 07 2013 00:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Time to remind myself why I don't like playing these games.
/in

I'll try to be nice :I
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 07 2013 05:58 GMT
#64
On February 07 2013 10:43 layabout wrote:
Whattup VE!

has risk.nuke rolled scum yet?

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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 13 2013 23:20 GMT
#122
On February 14 2013 07:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 07:13 Coagulation wrote:
hey guys im town.

Clear scumtell, scum. Only scum would claim to be town while not actually town. You mind as well confess now.

I like that logic, I wish liking it made it true.

On February 14 2013 07:38 Zessionar wrote:
##vote: risk.nuke

he has a 26,66 % chance to flip scum.

You on the other hand, I don't like one bit, nor your scummy shenanigans. Why do you want to randomlynch me? Furthermore why me rather then somebody else?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 13 2013 23:58 GMT
#129
On February 14 2013 08:28 WeWinMafia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 08:20 risk.nuke wrote:
On February 14 2013 07:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 07:13 Coagulation wrote:
hey guys im town.

Clear scumtell, scum. Only scum would claim to be town while not actually town. You mind as well confess now.

I like that logic, I wish liking it made it true.

On February 14 2013 07:38 Zessionar wrote:
##vote: risk.nuke

he has a 26,66 % chance to flip scum.

You on the other hand, I don't like one bit, nor your scummy shenanigans. Why do you want to randomlynch me? Furthermore why me rather then somebody else?

Just a guess but I think the purpose of a random lynch is it being random.
Why do you feel the need to even ask this when it's clearly bullshit he's doing right now?

If you don't answer questions directed at other people you and I are going to get along.

Zess, first of all. Nobody have ever called me decent scum. My major accomplishments as scum have been going temporarily unnoticed while some aggressive townies distracted the town with their pointy fingers and cries of omgus.

He never claimed to have RNG'd me, he just stated the odds. What I find scummy is advocating lynching someone he doesn't suspect is scum and the fact his claimed reasons seems to be pulled out of his arse.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 14 2013 07:30 GMT
#157
What are you saying Mattchew, marv is town untill proven scum? That's a revolutionary idea.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 14 2013 08:01 GMT
#159
Not much to think of it. Looks like a standard buddy-up post from syllo/sandroba.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 14 2013 08:24 GMT
#161
Okey maybe I phrased that poorly. People often associate Syllogism and Sandroba as a couple. And not only because their nicks starts with an S. They talk a lot privately about mafia and reads and they claim to be able to read each other quite well.

So it's not unusual at all that Syllogism would ask sandroba what he thinks of something in order to help get a read on him or just simply because he wants his respected second opinion.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 14 2013 16:18 GMT
#234
On February 14 2013 22:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 22:17 Vivax wrote:
On February 14 2013 22:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 22:03 Vivax wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:29 Vivax wrote:
Zess, scumreads? Do you think I'm town?

Why are you asking someone if they think you're town, especially this early in the game?


Can't you think of a reason?

Can't think of any where asking about scumreads wouldn't be better than town reads.
Speaking of which. Who do you currently think is scum?


Mattchew and WeWin have made bad posts so far, layabout didn't give a fuck about the votes on him and his activity has been grotesque.

What about your scumreads?You think I'm town?

I don't like Risk.nuke questioning posts that are obviously meant as a joke and taking them seriously (Zessioniar's initial vote), then defending himself by saying he's a poor scum player.

What are you talking about, are we playing the same game? I questioned somebody who put their vote on me. How did you interpret his post as obviously a joke?

Furthermore I didn't say I'm a poor scumplayer to defend myself. I used the empirical evidence that I hadn't performed well as scum to prove that his claimed reasoning was false or more to the point, made up.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 14 2013 16:23 GMT
#237
I don't think Zess likes me. Not actually sure if he's mafia or idiot.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 14 2013 16:33 GMT
#245
On February 15 2013 01:25 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 01:23 risk.nuke wrote:
I don't think Zess likes me. Not actually sure if he's mafia or idiot.

Why don't you think Zess likes you, and why is his opinion of you alignment indicative at all?

Read his posts and tell me if you reach a different conclusion otherwise I can't really be bothered to copying his posts and interpreting them for you..

It's not. However making up reasoning is.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 14 2013 16:35 GMT
#247
grush are you going to do anything except trolling?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 14 2013 17:04 GMT
#265
On February 15 2013 01:43 Zessionar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 01:33 risk.nuke wrote:
On February 15 2013 01:25 yamato77 wrote:
On February 15 2013 01:23 risk.nuke wrote:
I don't think Zess likes me. Not actually sure if he's mafia or idiot.

Why don't you think Zess likes you, and why is his opinion of you alignment indicative at all?

Read his posts and tell me if you reach a different conclusion otherwise I can't really be bothered to copying his posts and interpreting them for you..

It's not. However making up reasoning is.


ahm well... I already stated, that i am exagerating.
Originally I wanted to vote for vivax, but i was afraid, he'd never stop his shitstorm if i vote him. I just wanted to start anything: Therefor i chose you, because you used to play slightly similar to vivax years ago.
and to be honest, i didn't even think about if for more than 3 seconds...
it's just not that important...
Now I wrote like everything that went through my mind in this 3 seconds i decided to vote you... You might aswell call it random... Please let this be the last time i need to talk about this. We god better things going on.

WeWinMafia, tell us who you are.
I don't think you need to cover your identity in this game. you won't get shot anytime soon.

Again, your words make no sense. If you're familiar with me my play was probably better years ago because while inexperienced I was still uncorrupted by my current lazy ways. And I don't believe you. You keep slightly contradicting yourself and changing your mind and you seem desperate to stop any discussion about you.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 14 2013 18:00 GMT
#288
Eh what. I step out to by groceries and when I get back some interesting stuff went down only to completely kill the thread...
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2013 10:58 GMT
#413
I don't like the Yamato wagon. The initial voters Zess(now withdrawn) and Vivax reasoning are straight out terrible.
Hiro's reasoning is quite weak, and quite disappointing after he dropped his big vote now I'll explain later.
The only one's reasoning that has a point is Layabout's. But even so I don't think the leap between bad and scum is that suspicious.



I told myself that this morning I'd have figured out who I want to lynch but well.
We have basically no performance from Obvious, Coag, Mattchew, Vivax, Grush.
Pretty disappointing performances from Syllo, Sandroba and Marv who've done zero scumhunting.

Are you still waiting for the game to start?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2013 11:21 GMT
#415
I'm not asking you to conjure things. But the style you want to play doesn't work if nobody posts. And you can't say you can't make a case. Not a strong case sure but you don't always have that luxury. My mainproblem is I don't feel optimal about lynching someone who's been talking when there are still people who thinks lurking and being useless will get them a free pass.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2013 20:41 GMT
#640
I seem to have missed all the discussion, can't be helped you guys started doing stuff the second I leave.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2013 20:55 GMT
#645
I'm catching up now but I was thinking for all of ours sake I should give you a quick explanation of my situation. Basically this weekend is stressfull for me. On monday I have an exam and this weekend one of my closest friends who's been out of the country for a year is visiting (our home town, not my uni town) so I've been kind of pulled between studying and travelling today. And this will probably affect my pressence over the remaining weekend aswell, meaning up untill monday I will mostly be active in bursts.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2013 21:28 GMT
#679
I'm still can't see Zess as being supersoft.
Earlier I felt like killing him and the only thing stopping me was the lurkers. My sentiment haven't changed. I will back a lynch on someone who've done jack this game. Otherwise
##Vote: Zessionar
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2013 21:49 GMT
#706
On February 16 2013 06:41 syllogism wrote:
I'm not voting supersoft, even if it means no lynching. Just so you know

This better be an empty threat or it's the most anti-town I've read all game.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2013 21:51 GMT
#710
I would back a vivax lynch.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2013 22:16 GMT
#719
I've changed my mind, I don't want to lynch Vivax. He used to be in my done-jack pile and I recalled his recent accusations as rather week. On a second look he actually looks fairly fine, and at very least better then that I would trust a last minute vote switch too him.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2013 22:34 GMT
#729
Can't for the life of me understand what yamato have done to warrant being lynched over Zess. Seriously what are you doing! Zess who straight out changed his mind about his reasoning when questioned. That fucking translates to he made up his reasoning.

Can somebody tell me why a townie would do that?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2013 22:38 GMT
#735
Coag is listed both as hiropro voter and not voting
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2013 22:41 GMT
#740
Hi coag, want to take a stand or throw your vote away with grush and mattchew?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2013 22:44 GMT
#748
I'm quite surprised how 7 people are voting yamato and some are surely here right now yet nobody can tell me why yamato is a better lynch then zess in terms of factual arguments.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2013 22:53 GMT
#776
No we don't have enough people to switch to a completely new candidate and it's idiocy to try with just under 8 min left. It's Zess vs yamato vs no lynch that's cards on the table, and a no-lynch is stupid.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2013 22:59 GMT
#803
I will fry your lurking arses so hard tomorrow if yamato flips green.
##vote: yamato
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2013 23:01 GMT
#809
##unvote:
##vote: yamato
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2013 23:04 GMT
#816
stop posting on your non-smurf accounts. It's against the rules.
And shit supersoft. you've changed to the worse.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2013 23:05 GMT
#819
... Dumbest fucking luck I ever saw...
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 15 2013 23:07 GMT
#827
Like that clears you zess, this lynch could had stood between two scum.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 16 2013 10:37 GMT
#920
Okey, I'd like some reasoning from everyone that voted on anyone. Zess/yamato voters why you voted one over the other. I don't care if it's "I just sheeped x" as long as it's true. And if what pathetically little some of you had for reasoning really is all you had that is fine too but you will be held accountable for that.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 16 2013 11:30 GMT
#926
On February 16 2013 19:45 Zessionar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 19:37 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, I'd like some reasoning from everyone that voted on anyone. Zess/yamato voters why you voted one over the other. I don't care if it's "I just sheeped x" as long as it's true. And if what pathetically little some of you had for reasoning really is all you had that is fine too but you will be held accountable for that.


why don't you start?

I made it pretty fucking clear how I felt about the lynch and why.

yamato was first a weak bandwagon and when nobody wanted to actually discuss lynches people just fell back on him with some weak meta excuse which according to marv wasn't even accurate.

What pissed me of last night was nobody could provide me an argument for why yamato was a better lynch then zess and still he had racked up the most votes. It felt like the easiest scumwagon ever.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 16 2013 11:53 GMT
#927
On February 16 2013 20:02 Zessionar wrote:
please go into detail. I think you're only referring to your own memory there without even reading what i've done in between. Your reasoning is terrible and you obviously didn't read the thread.

Okey so you did not call me a bad townplayer and good scumplayer. And then changed your mind to I was a bad townplayer and a bad scumplayer?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 18 2013 16:51 GMT
#1624
You're such a bitch to shoot men when you know I wasn't available D:
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 18 2013 17:13 GMT
#1650
I think it's to hard for scum to pull of dayvigs. And even as such you can only really shoot people who're potential mislynches.
1 kp is not enough in this setup and I'm a bit dissapointed you didn't see that as obvious bugs. Gun dealer is a powerfull role and even if you could argue that scum have a chance to aquire it we're back to "dayvigs are hard to use"

I could probably have played better but I had a very important exam today and with visiting a friend saturday and studying all sunday in between traveling so it was just awefull timing that I couldn't be more active when I apparently needed to be to not get dayvigged (something I did not see coming) I was planning to get back today and get into the lynch discussion.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 18 2013 17:14 GMT
#1652
On February 19 2013 02:10 Vivax wrote:
What's a parity cop

he checks someone and then someone else, then he gets told if the second person have the same or different alignment from the first.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 18 2013 17:28 GMT
#1660
You say a good mafia can spin it's use but it's more accurately dependent on a town that tolerates dayvigging a townie without solid reasoning.

And yeah, if you disregard what i joked about in the mafiachat clearly I played this game as if I were shaking in my boots.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 18 2013 17:48 GMT
#1673
On February 19 2013 02:42 layabout wrote:
so do we nominate ourselves for the bestest town award?

i'm a bit annoyed i gave up on vivax so easily

The mafia team led the bus on their teammate day1. No town discussion.
+ Show Spoiler +
then throws away most of the cred they got by not participating in the crucial lynchdiscussion (wbg was right talking about fear but it just made them stick out all the more)

Town luck out on randomised veteran placement.
Then a dayvig shot another mafia. No town discussion.
Then the third mafia shoots the fourth mafia and concedes. Town discusses which townie to kill.

No you will probably not get a bestest town award despite flawless victory.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 18 2013 19:00 GMT
#1685
On February 19 2013 03:39 layabout wrote:
risk toad was the only one that properly bussed yamato, But vivax's first vote was not a seriuos one and he backed out of the bus anyway, you did a desperartion switch. That was not a mafia lead wagon by any stretch. Hiro went after yamato, I fingered yamato, sandro and syllogism kept the wagon alive and town pushed it through at the end.

fingered him for what? everyone just fell to a consensus on him without reasoning because he was an easy target. And my point is he could easily have been saved if he wasn't being bussed by toad and then didn't to show up to defend himself and some other useless lurker could had been lynched in his stead.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 20 2013 11:42 GMT
#1773
On February 20 2013 19:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 19:17 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 20 2013 19:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
you guys would've had the same problem even with different roles. The jailkeeper didn't even do anything.

I could have removed the jailkeeper and the parity cop and you guys still would've lost-the roles weren't to blame here.

You can perhaps make an argument that the dayvig is hard to use given the other KP role, but that was intentional on my part. You guys knew you had to be active given the role you were given and you chose not to be. Asking for a normal vig simply reinforces this point. Sure, it would have made it easier to use the KP, but since when have I been a fan of easy-to-use power roles?

The confirmation was not hard to deal with, given that the RB would have completely nullified the role. You guys got shot by it instead of influencing the shot. Just because town has a vig doesn't mean it's going to always hit mafia. Had risk actually done anything at all it could easily have been someone like Mattchew or coag on the receiving end of the bullet.


Agree, it didn't make a difference and it didn't come into play but it's part of the reasoning we were frustrated and didn't play active. At least for me.


you gave up when the game started, so no, that's not true at all.

I think you're looking for excuses here.

You're the one trying to excuse that your setup was heavily imbalanced. Give it a rest, your denial of this fact and continuous arguments and attempts to justify it is starting to piss me off.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
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Sweden2825 Posts
February 20 2013 14:08 GMT
#1776
Yes the setup was townfavored, I'd say more then slightly but we can disagree on that, it's not even my issue since it was an experimental setup. As you both say the bigger crook was RNG, evidently town didn't even need some of their power roles. But that balance perspective should had been obvious to the host from the start and the fair thing to do would be to redo the RNG+ Show Spoiler +
I know some hosts do this more then others to ensure the teams are as fair as possible. I also know some hosts as yourself dislike doing it.
and there is a reason for that.

When a game is over, for a player there is nothing as frustrating as to look at a setup and see that it was heavily favored one way or another. More so if you were on the loosing side and put in a lot of effort. And favor doesn't just come from the setup, the players are also a factor. A hosts job is to make sure these frustrating scenarios doesn't happen. Knowing it was imbalanced and writing it of as bad luck because of the RNG isn't acceptable imo. You have a responsibility to your players to try to balance this game, and that should be prioritized before your code of never re-RNG.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
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