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On February 16 2013 08:20 Zessionar wrote: ahm, marvel might not be scum tbh :D i am starting to believe vivax is scum though It just shows how serious you were about your shitlists. | ||
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On February 16 2013 08:24 HiroPro wrote: Btw, everyone should note that Artanis was not the majority voter on yamato - he came afterwards. Additionally, he was a person who constantly defended yamato by attempting to frame the case on him as being about lurking instead the extremely strange behavior in the beginning (which Artanis also attempted to explain away) and by complaining about the wagon being fast. The most suspicious part about the wagon thing is where he says the yamato wagon is too fast while ignoring the super wagon which was actually bigger and faster-developing. I took a look at it, and I also noticed that while he argues that the bandwagon didn't pick up with enough reasoning. On February 16 2013 04:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm more comfortable with zess as he didn't randomly start picking up speed without reasoning. Actually checked over it again and it was only one vote, but the sentiment seems to be that everyone's happy to lynch him which worries me. It's hard for me to keep track right now though. Given this reasoning, why didn't he actually take a closer look at the players voting for yamato? Asking why they did it? Noticed, for example, that my inital vote on him was just a pressure vote and not a vote decisive for lynching him. Looks to me like he found yamato's bandwagon scummy without further digging among the people actually making it scummy. I wouldn't expect that motivation to lack if he really believed what he said. | ||
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On February 16 2013 08:30 marvellosity wrote: and if you don't care who hammered mafia, you shouldn't be playing mafia, frankly. Mostly the people being sure of him before you. But you seem to be used to your own arrogance despite flipflopping with your vote at the end. You didn't play as big of a role as you think there, and I'm not mafia either marv. Get down your high horse and start playing by considering yourself a human being. | ||
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On February 16 2013 08:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I thought the Yamato train was strange because there was seemingly no reasoning for it. It was a very weak case. Regarding Zess, we actually argued over him a lot, yet Yamato just came up and people were all up for lynching him which worried me greatly. That's why I found the Yamato train far stranger than Zess. Also, half the evening I was posting from my cellphone whilst at a gig in honor of my Dad's 60th birthday. I might not have been as observant then as I normally am. But people suddenly joining in and wanting to lynch me was perfectly fine? That includes you by the way. Without mentioning a single reason. | ||
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On February 16 2013 08:39 Zessionar wrote: If 4 people claim to be the hammer :D but i am slightly less suspicious of marv right now... Others actually seem to be suspicious of him and his attitude regarding yamato. What are your reasons? | ||
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On February 16 2013 08:39 marvellosity wrote: i'm not saying it makes me definitively town, but i went over to yamato, and artanis came with me, specifically citing me as the reason for doing so. quite important. I didn't question your townieness, I want to remind you that you're giving yuorself too much credit for that lynch, and I'd like if you revisited my play in this game, cause I'm not scum and to me it looks like you get overly confident based on so little. It has pretty heavy consequences as you have seen. You attracted people wanting to lynch me out of nowhere and with no reason cause your word weighs so heavy, and that should make you sceptical of your read if you weren't so sure of yourself. You're not infallible either, marv. | ||
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On February 16 2013 08:44 marvellosity wrote: funny when at the last minute you would have been quite happy with a no lynch, telling us to vote zessionar. And yet some of us actually lynched yamato, right at the death. Not you though. Funny isn't it? I wanted to lynch Zess, deal with it. I'm not infallible. | ||
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You caused all that confusion risking no lynch in the first place, so go screw yourself for your double standards. | ||
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On February 16 2013 00:40 marvellosity wrote: as in, whether yamato is town or mafia is irrelevant to how hiro made his vote On February 16 2013 00:42 Zessionar wrote: no i don't think so: If Hiro votes scum for absolutely no reason, that's not scummy at all. If hero votes town for no reason, that's scummy. On February 16 2013 00:43 Zessionar wrote: no that's correct in this case we have right here, since hiro said he'd provide more evidence. On February 16 2013 00:44 marvellosity wrote: so what if he said he would? he hadn't and just dropped his vote. your point of view only has any credence if you know people's alignments ahead of time, which I don't, and unless you're mafia, you don't either. On February 16 2013 00:46 Zessionar wrote: lol now you're twisting my words, since i accuse you of knowing yamatos alignment :D Check the first nested quote: No he's right. What he's saying makes perfect sense... I asked you to give some more reasoning for your vote on jiro (was that hiro? i believe so) when he voted yamato for no reason. I didn't think about it back then, but syllo hit the nail right on the head. You look so confident that yamato is town, that you don't even try to question yamato before you "counter-vote" hiros vote. You know what i am saying... that's pretty scummy of you btw :D Ok, supersoft agrees with syllo on yamato being a decent lynch cause of his interactions with marv...Since marv, according to him and syllo, blindly defended yamato. But in truth his opinion differs from syllo's, since contrary to syllo, SS seems extremely sure that yamato is town, cause of this post that implies that Hiro's vote was a scummy vote on town with no justification: no i don't think so: If Hiro votes scum for absolutely no reason, that's not scummy at all. If hero votes town for no reason, that's scummy. In the end, he accused marv of knowing yamato's alignment, which apparently he looked sure to be town, but... On February 15 2013 23:04 Zessionar wrote: Okay, we have about 9 hours left if i am correct: 2. ObviousOne Filter 4. Mattchew Filter 7. HiroPro Filter 10. Hopeless1der Filter 11. Artanis[Xp] Filter 13. yamato77 Filter 14. grush57 Filter 15. layabout Filter in the next 5 hours, i want everyone to focus on these players. I know it's half of the players in this game. One of them will be lynched today. in 5 hours, we will break the list down to 4 of them and in 7 hours i want only 2 of them left and in 8 hours, i want to have one guy with enough votes for a lynch. that's my plan. Marv, toad I expect you to be helping me there. Yamato was in his list...As townread? His next posts don't mention yamato or marv anyway, he quickly lost interest after arguing with marv and he goes casual about other players. Both not in his list. On February 16 2013 03:06 Zessionar wrote: I still think we should lynch one of the people on my list. Toad is kind of scummy, he might be a good lynch but well, day1 went as it went, and i refuse to lynch players with more than one filter :-o risk.nuke, you might wanna post something here again... you're still playing right? To me it looks like Zess overreacted to marv's defensive behavior regarding yamato, similar to Toad's last mafia where mafia JX immediately attacked a player defending his scumbuddy thrawn about to get lynched (which he in truth wasn't defending). Then, he keeps yamato in his list when it's obvious he read him as town in front of marv, and votes for him in the end when he has the excuse of sheeping on the yamato wagon for self-preservation, which is sadly impossible to use to prove he was bussing yamato, but keeping him in a scumread list when it seems to be a townread looks obvious enough to me: He kept the option of bussing open for himself. | ||
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Syllo, who should I be looking into again? | ||
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On February 16 2013 21:35 Zessionar wrote: Vivax must be some kind of a modern biblical plague... Who do you want to lynch tomorrow? | ||
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