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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 15 2013 18:43 GMT
#581
hey why did marv give up on Hopeless1der?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 15 2013 18:44 GMT
#582
On February 16 2013 03:43 layabout wrote:
hey why did marv give up on Hopeless1der?


On February 16 2013 02:27 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 02:22 Hopeless1der wrote:
@Marv, my response to your case is quite succinct. I'll even quote you to support my need to "construct" my posts:
On February 15 2013 02:18 marvellosity wrote:
On February 15 2013 02:12 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##yamato77


I read your name in the bottom of my coffee cup bitch.


On February 15 2013 02:15 Vivax wrote:
Oh shit does that mean I'm scum?


Hey Vivax. Did you learn shit from LIX? I hope for the sake of my faith in my humanity, the answer is yes. Maybe try to play like you learnt something. My tolerance level this game for stupid shenannies will be markedly lower.

A greater portion of the posts you quoted were in response or regarding Vivax in some way. Suppose my first instinct is to respond in a "fuck off and die in a fire" manner. Now suppose I am trying to curb that instinct, but still want to hold some type of reasonable discourse. The result is the posts you've taken issue with.

Regarding the drop in pressure on Zess, don't worry that's coming back momentarily.


huh. this answer was unexpected and possibly reasonable. i'll have a look.


On February 16 2013 02:32 marvellosity wrote:
your explanation is kinda believable actually. gonna wait to hear what you have to say about zess/your unvote of him/vote on yamato.


then I liked his catch on supersoft talking about pointless stuff. Although it's shown not to be true when in relation to Toad, he can't really have been expected to know that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22041 Posts
February 15 2013 18:49 GMT
#583
Would be kinda weird for scum Zess to push marv when he's pressuring me.
WeWinMafia
Profile Joined February 2013
Bahamas102 Posts
February 15 2013 18:49 GMT
#584
Thanks marv, found it, it really was BangBang:

On June 14 2012 02:51 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 01:11 Toadesstern wrote:
About the mason thing: Screw that I don't need a mason when I got Supersoft and we can just speak german to pseudo-mason :p

Or even better, ask a question in german, the answer is the key to unlock an encrypted text like this:

Was ist der Plural von Apfel?
+ Show Spoiler [encrypted] +
##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/
ZZZZZ ITGAH BJTVG GAKRT GCFJU UXUPO UWAGE XUFHV DIHAA NCJTW WMMVO
RUWAV KJCNF AQASM AIMHG GFISQ LHJNV IVBTE CAKKP GCHVB SNVJK BMEIV
JVJTD APUQI BWVDA ANWLM JKIIO VATOO HFAXE LFHCI CILLM QGMKS HSTNQ
GCSNK LEAQV XTMFE GAUDC LRBSV FHURH BGBWG OPGOJ DSOSF RERXV FLWVU
XJTJA JMNHF RLWOA EQHNE AWJWG VHMKM XAAXX EFDJV KWSAR CICDI DCRDI
LDTGM XVFLV OTJEP QUBSG VGQEG OMNLB LLJXI TVAJS WHEMG RLPBU XLMIJ
HJTPR RAMEU DNOML JAUNI OBVQU XDXJJ UHKUR LVHMT BOLXK SELQM IFJVE
ARPTP BBOIV XMJCM AWFIU QXFSD TJWSL IEODD MFMTW MLWIU QNNWJ WXVRO
GSGUH LHQKX INUMP TTJBC DRIDR RLQHK XGUGX NKFWD LVHLB KGETN GFBCB
XUUPE PKFNX IMHIF KAWUO HVZZZ YYYYY
##### End encrypted message


uh that's neat. I think we actually should abuse this. Our number 8.
+ Show Spoiler +

##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/
ZZZZZ TSPAM HTLVH FUJOQ QVXHQ AAIPU SJGJD AGPRR VDSTU SDBLD WQUAE
TROHM NOPOI MJBVA HUAAU SMIGG WXRPA MEMVB CPAXD TCUUS NOSJQ WCUKF
AXAHC SACDJ AXCIJ EIDJM OOMSJ ABTOX GWFPT OLRJG IDGTW VMJPW PTEJM
AUWUP JOMCM XPTXN MCPAV FNHNV OHTUG BIQXS NNIJL BVHSG SWDGX XVFGA
UQDLA CSSBH CJTIM THENW MVVFE PEOWA JNPMP HMMJO HUMAJ FSOEL HFXJF
VELIS AEUVK RRNVX NHXOF UBUDE RVEJH UFFPI LLGQH THPGH LLBTE RODFK
EXESP FXOIB JTVPN WBHOE XAJHF ETGIK QOORG RHMLA PSSUH CGIQP BRHJE
CMRNN LHXXB MWALA VWWEW DFWMB JCHKR NIWMX RHKVU PNVIW XTXEJ NWGBE
OBBWX HVQDN IEIMG GQVAW GTLWX FEMQI QOKTS ILDUK IROKE QFICF JUOVO
GHJAO RXNAU MNFLG LTOTX QRZZZ YYYYY
##### End encrypted message

##### End encrypted message



Open the spoilers and the quotes. That's what I meant when talking about "it's kind of a thing between Supersoft and me to talk like that in games". And it went on like that, people got mad in the thread about our german and stuff like that.
So again, we both were town in that game and I took his carefree, spammy attitude around that time (in this game) as a very much townish trait considering it was me he was talking to.

I really don't see a reason why we should lynch him instead of people like Yamato, especially considering that he's one of the guys posting a bunch unlike most other people.
I win mafia!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 15 2013 18:51 GMT
#585
Of course it really was Bang Bang, you weirdo Didn't just give you some random name for giggles, lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
February 15 2013 18:56 GMT
#586
So, first yamato.

Even though he isn't as active as lxiii where he was town, it strikes me as similar playstyle between the two. Plus attacking zess is a good thing, I don't think he should be lynched today. Sure he hasn't done too much yet but that could be out of his control/ plus there are better targets. Also I agree with marv's post as people are bandwagoning him without reason.

WeWinMafia

Pretty antitown dude with the smurfing stuff, I don't think his super early game stuff didn't really indicate either role as it is d1,. I'm not sure he is being his Toad self, of which I have never been good at identifying their role.

Also I think risk nuke should be our other top candiate for lynching. He lurks, pops in saying the same list of people who haven't done much, and then leaves.

"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
February 15 2013 19:01 GMT
#587
Anyone want to get on the risk nuke train?
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
WeWinMafia
Profile Joined February 2013
Bahamas102 Posts
February 15 2013 19:01 GMT
#588
On February 16 2013 03:56 grush57 wrote:
[...]

WeWinMafia

Pretty antitown dude with the smurfing stuff, I don't think his super early game stuff didn't really indicate either role as it is d1,. I'm not sure he is being his Toad self, of which I have never been good at identifying their role.

[...]



so basicly you're telling us I'm mafia because I chose to smurf this game, because it's anti-town?
Well sorry, the decision to smurf was done way before I got my alignment. The rest reads "idk anything about him but I have to admit I usually can't read him at all".
So there's 3 points:
  • 1 is a null, me being a smurf
  • 2 is a null, you say you don't know anything about me
  • 3 is you saying you backpaddeling and exlpaining that you're not good at reading me at all

Correct? Because you lable that as pretty anti-town dude.
I win mafia!
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
February 15 2013 19:06 GMT
#589
V-v-v-v-v-vote Count!

Zessionar (4) - Artanis[XP], Hopeless1der, yamato77, Vivax, Hopeless1der, grush57
yamato77 (3) - Zessionar, Vivax, HiroPro, layabout, Hopeless1der, WeWinMafia
HiroPro (1) - Coagulation, marvellosity
marvellosity (1) - WeWinMafia, Zessionar
WeWinMafia (1) - Artanis[XP]
Vivax (1) - marvellosity
Coagulation (0) - grush57
Mattchew (0) - Vivax
risk.nuke (0) - Zessionar
layabout (0) - ObviousOne, grush57
ObviousOne (0) - Artanis[XP]
Hopeless1der (0) - marvellosity


Currently, no one is set to be lynched. With 16 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch. Deadline is in roughly 4 hours.

If you notice any errors in the vote count, please let me know!
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 19:10 GMT
#590
Toad is looking a bit better due to his supersoft interactions, which seems to leave yamato as the realistic and acceptable lynch. I don't think I'm willing to lynch supersoft today. He could be mafia, but he seems to be more aggressive than he was as mafia in LVIII and he is likely going to be more active and useful than yamato, who isn't even here.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 15 2013 19:17 GMT
#591
On February 16 2013 04:10 syllogism wrote:
Toad is looking a bit better due to his supersoft interactions, which seems to leave yamato as the realistic and acceptable lynch. I don't think I'm willing to lynch supersoft today. He could be mafia, but he seems to be more aggressive than he was as mafia in LVIII and he is likely going to be more active and useful than yamato, who isn't even here.

did you think hopeless is a good choice?

I agree we should be lynching yamato today but I was really confused when I saw Marv say he thinks we should be lynching hopeless yesterday saying he'll explain today. I almost suspected some kind of bullshit "ha just kidding to see who would jump on the train with no reasoning" move.
I'm just not agreeing with an awful lot he's saying this game, which is odd considering that we came to the exact same conclusions last time we played together.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 15 2013 19:22 GMT
#592
On February 16 2013 04:10 syllogism wrote:
Toad is looking a bit better due to his supersoft interactions, which seems to leave yamato as the realistic and acceptable lynch. I don't think I'm willing to lynch supersoft today. He could be mafia, but he seems to be more aggressive than he was as mafia in LVIII and he is likely going to be more active and useful than yamato, who isn't even here.


so marvs play is okay for you right?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 19:25 GMT
#593
On February 16 2013 04:17 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 04:10 syllogism wrote:
Toad is looking a bit better due to his supersoft interactions, which seems to leave yamato as the realistic and acceptable lynch. I don't think I'm willing to lynch supersoft today. He could be mafia, but he seems to be more aggressive than he was as mafia in LVIII and he is likely going to be more active and useful than yamato, who isn't even here.

did you think hopeless is a good choice?

I agree we should be lynching yamato today but I was really confused when I saw Marv say he thinks we should be lynching hopeless yesterday saying he'll explain today. I almost suspected some kind of bullshit "ha just kidding to see who would jump on the train with no reasoning" move.
I'm just not agreeing with an awful lot he's saying this game, which is odd considering that we came to the exact same conclusions last time we played together.

No, I did not think he was a good lynch and do not think he is one now. His post about someone not actually RNGing their "rng" vote is probably the only thing I find suspicious about his play so far, that seemed opportunistic.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
February 15 2013 19:26 GMT
#594
layabout, what is your opinion on marvellosity?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 15 2013 19:27 GMT
#595
I'm not comfortable lynching yamato. This bandwagon seems to go way too easily with not enough reasoning.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 19:28 GMT
#596
On February 16 2013 04:22 Zessionar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 04:10 syllogism wrote:
Toad is looking a bit better due to his supersoft interactions, which seems to leave yamato as the realistic and acceptable lynch. I don't think I'm willing to lynch supersoft today. He could be mafia, but he seems to be more aggressive than he was as mafia in LVIII and he is likely going to be more active and useful than yamato, who isn't even here.


so marvs play is okay for you right?

No, I've voiced some suspicions about his play so far, but I'm not lynching him either today and even if I wanted to, it's unlikely to happen with extended majority lynch. If he is mafia, it will be easier to tell later and if not, he is going to get shot at some point.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 19:30 GMT
#597
On February 16 2013 04:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm not comfortable lynching yamato. This bandwagon seems to go way too easily with not enough reasoning.

Who would your choice then be, still Wewinmafia/Toad? A lot of people have been pushing Supersoft lynch as well and he is in fact currently the vote leader.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
February 15 2013 19:31 GMT
#598
On February 16 2013 04:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm not comfortable lynching yamato. This bandwagon seems to go way too easily with not enough reasoning.


We have 3 votes total on yamato, which is as many as super has picked up in like the last 5 hours and yamato's wagon is the one that is going too fast for you?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 15 2013 19:37 GMT
#599
syllo mind voting yamato? You just came to the conclusion that Yamato is the only guy we should be lynching today and I don't see your vote on him.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
February 15 2013 19:37 GMT
#600
On February 16 2013 04:01 WeWinMafia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 03:56 grush57 wrote:
[...]

WeWinMafia

Pretty antitown dude with the smurfing stuff, I don't think his super early game stuff didn't really indicate either role as it is d1,. I'm not sure he is being his Toad self, of which I have never been good at identifying their role.

[...]



so basicly you're telling us I'm mafia because I chose to smurf this game, because it's anti-town?
Well sorry, the decision to smurf was done way before I got my alignment. The rest reads "idk anything about him but I have to admit I usually can't read him at all".
So there's 3 points:
  • 1 is a null, me being a smurf
  • 2 is a null, you say you don't know anything about me
  • 3 is you saying you backpaddeling and exlpaining that you're not good at reading me at all

Correct? Because you lable that as pretty anti-town dude.

Nononono, I mean't how you said you wanted to fake other people's smurf and how you wouldn't tell who you are.
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