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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 15 2013 18:30 GMT
#561
Your filter was so small and full of oneliners that I didn't even need to quote you. One just skimmed it and saw you had no interest whatsoever in pushing anyone until me and artanis showed up. You preferred calling people stupid and talking about burgers. If you're town you're fucking bad.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 15 2013 18:30 GMT
#562
what's wrong with you?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 15 2013 18:30 GMT
#563
that was @Zess
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 15 2013 18:32 GMT
#564
supersoft, responses on the 2 below please

On February 16 2013 03:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 03:10 Zessionar wrote:
i want to lynch vivax, because he's the most annoying person in this game, everything he posts is either just wrong or exagerated. His reads are paranoid, he completely refuses to listen to logic and he's overall disturbing...

but sadly he plays like this as town, therefor we have to carry him around with us until we get shot.
If one thing is 100% sure in this game, it is the fact that scum won't do us the huge favour to kill him...


No, I completely disagree with you. Here's why. As town he pushes his reads. HARD. For good, or for bad. Usually for bad, but hey. Maybe he learnt not to be a madman after LIX, right? But still, he would push his lynch.

In this game he doesn't push his reads. His read is you. He comes in - makes a couple of posts about it, then leaves. He then responds within 5 minutes to me calling him out, even though there's been plenty of other stuff in the thread. He's not trying to get you lynched. If he was town, he would be trying to get you lynched. As mafia, he's happy to call you mafia, and then go away and let the rest of town argue about yamato/Hopeless/whoever


On February 16 2013 03:25 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 03:24 Zessionar wrote:
"It also lets Zessionar just sheep into the town's choices"

did i sheep anyone yet? you're the second retard who accuses me for setting up a situation where i will be able to sheep someone. However I haven't sheeped anyone yet. I never sheep my vote.
the rest is complete bullshit.
you're comparing games, that cannot be compared.
you're comparing earlygames that cannot at all be compared
and your case is shit, because i am town,
your case is shit because you have not one point where you really disagree with me
you cannot explain why my proposed plan/list was bad for the town at that point of time, when the thread basically was dead. You don't disagree with any point on my speedanalysis
you don't disagree on my plan to let the masons claim
you don't disagree with my support for syllos point on marv, you don't disagree with my stance towards toad.
you're basically just comparing the look of my posts, from two completely different games.
why don't you compare my scumgame to this game here?


why don't you answer why, as town, you told the rest of town very firmly not to talk about pointless shit, yet you happily indulged in it here?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WeWinMafia
Profile Joined February 2013
Bahamas102 Posts
February 15 2013 18:33 GMT
#565
Zess remember what the name of the game was when we had our little talk in german during the WM?
I know we asked each other 3 questions in german, somehow encrypted with a question in german to decrypt it.

The first one was me saying something along the lines of "lol just want to screw with those silly americans because they don't have an Ä on their keyboard to type the answer in".
The second one was something about some guy being too serious.
The third one was about how the game ger vs netherlands would end.

were you mafia or town in that game?
I win mafia!
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
February 15 2013 18:35 GMT
#566
Hooray halfday at school!
Zess makes lists.
The one super guide said scum makes lists.
Plus, the fact that he is scum tells me he is a good lynch.
##Unvote
##Vote: Zessionar
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 15 2013 18:35 GMT
#567
what's wrong with me? I am tired of your shit.
People told me you're a good player.
I've seen nothing out of you so far.

The thing that syllo pointed out earlier,
The fact that you completely refuse to comment on players (except that super-weak case on Hopelessder)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 15 2013 18:35 GMT
#568
answer me already.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 15 2013 18:36 GMT
#569
On February 16 2013 03:35 grush57 wrote:
Hooray halfday at school!
Zess makes lists.
The one super guide said scum makes lists.
Plus, the fact that he is scum tells me he is a good lynch.
##Unvote
##Vote: Zessionar


I AM ALWAYS MAKING LISTS EXCEPT IF I AM SCUM
LIST R FUCKING USEFUL!!!
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 15 2013 18:36 GMT
#570
On February 16 2013 03:33 WeWinMafia wrote:
Zess remember what the name of the game was when we had our little talk in german during the WM?
I know we asked each other 3 questions in german, somehow encrypted with a question in german to decrypt it.

The first one was me saying something along the lines of "lol just want to screw with those silly americans because they don't have an Ä on their keyboard to type the answer in".
The second one was something about some guy being too serious.
The third one was about how the game ger vs netherlands would end.

were you mafia or town in that game?


town.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 18:36 GMT
#571
On February 16 2013 03:35 grush57 wrote:
Hooray halfday at school!
Zess makes lists.
The one super guide said scum makes lists.
Plus, the fact that he is scum tells me he is a good lynch.
##Unvote
##Vote: Zessionar

Any thoughts on yamato or wewinmafia?
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
February 15 2013 18:37 GMT
#572
I'll look through their filters to give you a good answer, master syllogism.
one sec
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 18:38 GMT
#573
On February 16 2013 03:33 WeWinMafia wrote:
Zess remember what the name of the game was when we had our little talk in german during the WM?
I know we asked each other 3 questions in german, somehow encrypted with a question in german to decrypt it.

The first one was me saying something along the lines of "lol just want to screw with those silly americans because they don't have an Ä on their keyboard to type the answer in".
The second one was something about some guy being too serious.
The third one was about how the game ger vs netherlands would end.

were you mafia or town in that game?

What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this? Do you not think that he is supersoft?
WeWinMafia
Profile Joined February 2013
Bahamas102 Posts
February 15 2013 18:38 GMT
#574
On February 16 2013 03:36 Zessionar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 03:33 WeWinMafia wrote:
Zess remember what the name of the game was when we had our little talk in german during the WM?
I know we asked each other 3 questions in german, somehow encrypted with a question in german to decrypt it.

The first one was me saying something along the lines of "lol just want to screw with those silly americans because they don't have an Ä on their keyboard to type the answer in".
The second one was something about some guy being too serious.
The third one was about how the game ger vs netherlands would end.

were you mafia or town in that game?


town.

do you have the name of that game? I'd like to re-read some of it. I thought you're town as well and when you did those posts about McCurrywurst I thought about that game but wasn't sure about wether you were actually town or mafia in it. Not even what alignment I was but I think I was town as well :p
I win mafia!
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 15 2013 18:39 GMT
#575
Oh I see now
WeWinMafia
Profile Joined February 2013
Bahamas102 Posts
February 15 2013 18:40 GMT
#576
On February 16 2013 03:38 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 03:33 WeWinMafia wrote:
Zess remember what the name of the game was when we had our little talk in german during the WM?
I know we asked each other 3 questions in german, somehow encrypted with a question in german to decrypt it.

The first one was me saying something along the lines of "lol just want to screw with those silly americans because they don't have an Ä on their keyboard to type the answer in".
The second one was something about some guy being too serious.
The third one was about how the game ger vs netherlands would end.

were you mafia or town in that game?

What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this? Do you not think that he is supersoft?

I'm trying to find that game and re-read it because I can't remember the name. I know Supersoft hates people who are spammy (for example me) but I also know that he LOVES doing it himself with german people like Eran and me.

Said game was the reason I leaned town on Supersoft based on McCurrywurst although he usually doesn't do that kind of stuff. It's kind of a thing between us. I need to make sure if he was town in that game though.
I win mafia!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 15 2013 18:40 GMT
#577
It was Bang Bang, and he was town. So I can retract that part of my question to him. I don't know why he's ignoring what I said on Vivax, though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Zessionar
Profile Joined February 2013
Azerbaijan178 Posts
February 15 2013 18:42 GMT
#578
On February 16 2013 03:16 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 03:12 Hopeless1der wrote:

A brief interlude into meta, from Dessert Mini Mafia:
On January 13 2013 09:28 supersoft wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:22 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:19 MrZentor wrote:
It wasn't even a smile...

Question what would you call it :o

Circle face? Surpised face

I like a dafaq? face what you think Z XD


Okay announcement:
Don't talk about pointless SHIT!!!
scum loves to talk about pointless stuff. Do when the game is over. Right now we're playing the game and we're not in some kind of off-topic thread!

FOCUS!!!

Don't let this game end in a mess like the Kurumi game!

Pointless shit, say for example: mccurrywurst?


Hi Hopeless. I like this bit a lot.



and wtf is this marv?
you were suspicious of this fellow like 3 pages ago.
you made a huge case
and you let him pass with this halfassed terrible case on me?

yeah sure.
you're scum marv.
you are.


FLOOD CONTROL!


i dont remember the name of the game, but i think we were both town and i masoned you later on and we kept making a huge list but the game ended before we could finish it :D

hey wbg, am i allowed to post with another account if the floodcontrol hits me?
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 15 2013 18:42 GMT
#579
after i left their were 14 or so posts in 9 hours....
on day1...
...

(non european-time zoners should pause and feel shame at this point)

...


I am not satisfied with yamato's response.

he write a lot but he says very little:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 15 2013 16:20 yamato77 wrote:
Let me walk you through my thought process on Zess, since that seems to be what people think I'm not explaining.

When someone starts the game as he did, voting a player under "random" pretensions, I immediately am inclined to think they're mafia. It's a very dumb way to look like you're playing around and being funny with the rest of town, when in reality you're starting what sometimes becomes a trend, establishing an early atmosphere of voting people on a whim, for almost no reason at all. It is in these types of environments that mafia thrive.

And indeed, it did turn into a trend as soon as he threw his vote on me for something completely townie, and barely justifying it. How is me trying to figure out people's alignments scummy? To be clear, when I "insinuated" that Mattchew/Syllo were mafia, I was in the process of attempting to get information that would lead me toward their alignment. i consider the possibility that they are mafia, because in some way, what they're doing could come from a mafia perspective. In fact, since that time, the information I've been able to ascertain has told me the opposite, they seem town.

Why does he want to paint me scum so quick for this? And indeed, when I indirectly ask about his read, he says he hasn't called me scum. What sense does this make? If anything, it only serves to strengthen my bias against him, that he's not playing to figure out my alignment, he's playing to stir shit up with me and fuck off with his reads. His other "reads" have been very noncommittal, especially with regards to Marv, where he says he "agrees with Toad" (who has voted for Marv) and then lists a whole bunch of reasons he isn't jumping on it. Waiting for the opportune moment, I presume?

Perhaps I haven't really explained myself thoroughly up to this point, but when you look at him from my perspective, Zess' play makes no sense for a townie. The fact that he's continued to be spammy and contentless since my early vote on him only serves to steel my resolve. Dude is mafia.


I don't know how he as a player thinks but i do know that as mafia it is quite tempting to attack things that you feel are bad instead of things that look scummy. His 2 paragraph serves no real purpose, its a defense against an accusation that nobody really remembers. His 3rd paragraph is more or less "zess tries to paint me scum"-> "zess is trying to throw me off my game"-> "zess is scum"

The main reason he provides is that zessionar is "spammy and contentless", but that is no longer the case and is not what i would typically expect mafia play to look like when the thread has been so quiet at times and when zess had no meta based expectations for posting.

So yamato still looks bad his vote is still suspicious and you should still vote to kill him
+ Show Spoiler +
I also didn't see it as a wagon since i didn't notice the zess and vivax votes, but please don't let that term cause you to dismiss him as someone we shouldn't be lynching.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 15 2013 18:43 GMT
#580
On February 16 2013 03:42 Zessionar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 03:16 marvellosity wrote:
On February 16 2013 03:12 Hopeless1der wrote:

A brief interlude into meta, from Dessert Mini Mafia:
On January 13 2013 09:28 supersoft wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:22 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:19 MrZentor wrote:
It wasn't even a smile...

Question what would you call it :o

Circle face? Surpised face

I like a dafaq? face what you think Z XD


Okay announcement:
Don't talk about pointless SHIT!!!
scum loves to talk about pointless stuff. Do when the game is over. Right now we're playing the game and we're not in some kind of off-topic thread!

FOCUS!!!

Don't let this game end in a mess like the Kurumi game!

Pointless shit, say for example: mccurrywurst?


Hi Hopeless. I like this bit a lot.



and wtf is this marv?
you were suspicious of this fellow like 3 pages ago.
you made a huge case
and you let him pass with this halfassed terrible case on me?

yeah sure.
you're scum marv.
you are.


FLOOD CONTROL!


i dont remember the name of the game, but i think we were both town and i masoned you later on and we kept making a huge list but the game ended before we could finish it :D

hey wbg, am i allowed to post with another account if the floodcontrol hits me?


if you would actually read my posts, it would be clear why my suspicion on him waned.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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