EPTdo you have the name of that game? I'd like to re-read some of it. I thought you're town as well and when you did those posts about McCurrywurst I thought about that game but wasn't sure about wether you were actually town or mafia in it. Not even what alignment I was but I think I was town as well :p
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do you have the name of that game? I'd like to re-read some of it. I thought you're town as well and when you did those posts about McCurrywurst I thought about that game but wasn't sure about wether you were actually town or mafia in it. Not even what alignment I was but I think I was town as well :p | ||
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On February 16 2013 03:38 syllogism wrote: What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this? Do you not think that he is supersoft? I'm trying to find that game and re-read it because I can't remember the name. I know Supersoft hates people who are spammy (for example me) but I also know that he LOVES doing it himself with german people like Eran and me. Said game was the reason I leaned town on Supersoft based on McCurrywurst although he usually doesn't do that kind of stuff. It's kind of a thing between us. I need to make sure if he was town in that game though. | ||
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On June 14 2012 02:51 supersoft wrote: uh that's neat. I think we actually should abuse this. Our number 8. + Show Spoiler + ##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/ ZZZZZ TSPAM HTLVH FUJOQ QVXHQ AAIPU SJGJD AGPRR VDSTU SDBLD WQUAE TROHM NOPOI MJBVA HUAAU SMIGG WXRPA MEMVB CPAXD TCUUS NOSJQ WCUKF AXAHC SACDJ AXCIJ EIDJM OOMSJ ABTOX GWFPT OLRJG IDGTW VMJPW PTEJM AUWUP JOMCM XPTXN MCPAV FNHNV OHTUG BIQXS NNIJL BVHSG SWDGX XVFGA UQDLA CSSBH CJTIM THENW MVVFE PEOWA JNPMP HMMJO HUMAJ FSOEL HFXJF VELIS AEUVK RRNVX NHXOF UBUDE RVEJH UFFPI LLGQH THPGH LLBTE RODFK EXESP FXOIB JTVPN WBHOE XAJHF ETGIK QOORG RHMLA PSSUH CGIQP BRHJE CMRNN LHXXB MWALA VWWEW DFWMB JCHKR NIWMX RHKVU PNVIW XTXEJ NWGBE OBBWX HVQDN IEIMG GQVAW GTLWX FEMQI QOKTS ILDUK IROKE QFICF JUOVO GHJAO RXNAU MNFLG LTOTX QRZZZ YYYYY ##### End encrypted message ##### End encrypted message Open the spoilers and the quotes. That's what I meant when talking about "it's kind of a thing between Supersoft and me to talk like that in games". And it went on like that, people got mad in the thread about our german and stuff like that. So again, we both were town in that game and I took his carefree, spammy attitude around that time (in this game) as a very much townish trait considering it was me he was talking to. I really don't see a reason why we should lynch him instead of people like Yamato, especially considering that he's one of the guys posting a bunch unlike most other people. | ||
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On February 16 2013 03:56 grush57 wrote: [...] WeWinMafia Pretty antitown dude with the smurfing stuff, I don't think his super early game stuff didn't really indicate either role as it is d1,. I'm not sure he is being his Toad self, of which I have never been good at identifying their role. [...] so basicly you're telling us I'm mafia because I chose to smurf this game, because it's anti-town? Well sorry, the decision to smurf was done way before I got my alignment. The rest reads "idk anything about him but I have to admit I usually can't read him at all". So there's 3 points:
Correct? Because you lable that as pretty anti-town dude. | ||
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On February 16 2013 04:46 Toadesstern wrote: picture your dreamcar. A car you always wanted to have but never managed to get it because you're broke or forgot about it. Now you finally get it, it's you first day driving and you ram in straight into a wall, perhaps with damage beyond the point for it to be reasonable to be repaired. Do you just go away thinking "screw it" or do you panick trying to safe the situation somehow, although it makes no sense? As I said, I wanted to smurf once. I never smurfed before and I wanted to try it out no matter of alignment, so I made that decision pre-game and told WBG about it. I even got some pm's with Marv pre-game where he's asking me why I'm not playing. And those pm's aren't even lies, I really don't have a lot of time right now  It probably was really stupid to say what I said at that point but again, I wanted to try smurfing just once... oh I was logged in as Toad because of liquid pasture... my bad. Why was it so easy to hydra as Samual...whatever together with Sandro but now that it's just a smurf it's so hard | ||
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you think Yamato not being all over the place isn't alignment indicative? | ||
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On February 16 2013 06:02 syllogism wrote: Toad where are you? Your play has been very defensive and the yamato switch looked a bit opportunistic. Shouldn't you be here giving us something since right now the decision is likely going to be between you and yamato? how is it opportunistic? I've said everything there is and I think Yamato is the only reasonable lynch for today. I already said why the stuff Artanis said about me is bullshit, other people (either you or Marv?) mentioned it as well and that nothing he said is alignment indicative. Sandro hasn't said a thing about why he considers me suspicious until very recently and it boils down to some weird confirmation bias ("yes what syllo says may be correct but I think it's looking townish because he wants to look townish"...) and him saying I should be agressive towards him when he should know himself that the last time I pushed him d1 I was town myself and ended calling a mislynch on him while calling him stupid. There's just nothing to say about that kind of stuff. Again, Yamato is the only reasonable lynch for today imo, you basicly agreed as well and unless you consider Supersoft to be mafia and Yamato to be town there's just no reason to even consider me right now. Sandro agrees as well, saying "Yamato doesn't look to ho" or something like that when 4 people votes Supersoft while only 3 were on Yamato and I kept telling people (like you) to stick to Yamato because the case on Supersoft was retarded. That just doesn't make sense unless you think I'm defending a scumbuddy Supersoft. About your "why is noone voting Toad" point: Mafias don't usually vote me. I'm getting traction every time I'm town and there's always people pushing me like a bunch of retards (remember Vivax?). Mafias usually end up saying I'm town to ride the towncred train after it's proven that I'm town. At least it was that way the last 3 times I played as town. So to sum it up: I'm watching TL vs EG right now. Not much to say that hasn't already been said. There's no reason to repeat myself, now is there? | ||
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On February 16 2013 06:17 layabout wrote: am i missing something or does the "case" on toad come down to this? i know artanis made a post but i personally found it unconvincing and it wasn't the cause of the votes. yes it is... | ||
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On February 16 2013 06:50 grush57 wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: risk.nuke everyone willb e happy with this ... why? | ||
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On February 16 2013 07:04 marvellosity wrote: Just browsing through the filter there (in Hero Mafia for anyone wondering) it seems clear he cared way more for how the lynch turned out than here. Even in his last post here he's saying he's happy with how things are going and not trying to convince anyone. The problem is Toad is doing the exact same thing, and there's a shitload of people absent. I have to afk for 25 mins. sigh i don't know dude. I'm kind of telling people to lynch Yamato every 15 minutes. And telling grush to shut up and stop doing bullshit 50 minutes prior to deadline when we need to focus on one guy that has a reasonable chance of being lynched. (yeah I didn't say that, but that's what "...why?" should be read as). I just think the difference of Yamatos play is way more telling than anything else pointed out by people and I'm sticking to it. You're telling me that it could be Yamato not being around and that's the reason for him not jumping into peoples faces foots-first yet you're totally ignoring that possibility for Vivax. You've been telling me to lynch hopeless who I considered to be a slight townread if anything, asked Syllo about his opinion to make sure I'm not the only one thinking that way and he apparently agreed as well. You've been telling me to lynch Supersoft, a guy I had a townread on as well, a guy who was active and trying to get something happening although it didn't work out as well as he might have wanted it. You've been telling me to lynch me, which I obviously don't like and now you're telling me to lynch Vivax instead of Yamato while there's not a single reason to not lynch Yamato mentioned by anyone. Take a look at what all the people say about him and you'll find out that Sandro & Syllo waffle about him being a really good lynch candidate but don't want to vote him. You say it's alignment indicative but don't want to vote him either. Out of nowhere this Supersoft bullshit appeared. Out of nowhere grush gets in here and tells people to lynch risk when there's about 0 chance get make that happen right now. Remember when I said I just don't agree with an awful lot of what you're saying? That's what I'm referring to... | ||
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On February 16 2013 07:18 layabout wrote: if you won't kill yamato vivax in will make a better lynch than zess and i will switch if needed yeah agree, I still don't like the kind of waffle-resistance we have here. It's not like marv's points on Vivax are untrue or anything like that it's just really odd that all this is happening in combination. I'm not going to vote Zess either, so if I have to I'll vote vivax but I'd really, really, really prefer yamato with all this waffeling going on. | ||
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On February 16 2013 07:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Can someone give me a rundown on why Yamato is scum? I'm at home now so I can actually read shit again but there's not much time. picture gonzaw on steriods in the famous game we're supposed to never forget (god I can't remember game names...). That's how yamato plays as townie. | ||
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On February 16 2013 07:50 grush57 wrote: i don't like either wagons. ##Unvote ##Vote: ObviousOne do we have enough ppl to switch? there isn't a single reason for ObviousOne to be alive, unlike zess and yamato. wtf is that | ||
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VOTE YAMATO PRETTY PLEASE | ||
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On February 16 2013 08:07 marvellosity wrote: this lynch is actually pretty amazing given how hotly it was contested. it's actually pretty amazing that you told me to lynch hopeless (slight townread imo), to lynch Supersoft (townread imo), to lynch me (duh) and to lynch Vivax (nullread given the flip I guess?) instead of Yamato who was a good lynch according to you. Not to mention all this no-lynch bullshit 10 minutes prior to deadline because people are mad at something. Not to mention Sandro and Syllo waffeling about Yamato as well although they both concluded him to be the best possible lynch for today. | ||
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On February 16 2013 08:13 marvellosity wrote: without me there would have been a no-lynch. get over yourself. i don't think so. | ||
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On February 16 2013 08:24 HiroPro wrote: Btw, everyone should note that Artanis was not the majority voter on yamato - he came afterwards. Additionally, he was a person who constantly defended yamato by attempting to frame the case on him as being about lurking instead the extremely strange behavior in the beginning (which Artanis also attempted to explain away) and by complaining about the wagon being fast. The most suspicious part about the wagon thing is where he says the yamato wagon is too fast while ignoring the super wagon which was actually bigger and faster-developing. while I agree it is not only the case for Artanis. The same goes for Marv and I don't care that much who was the #10, the #9 or even the #7 and #8 on the vote-list. It's all pretty much the same. As syllo said, it's extended majority, mafia had to assume there might be people willing to switch just for the sake of avoiding a no-lynch and I don't give a crap about wether marv or Artanis made the majority at all. Both defended Yamato in an unreasonable way. Marv more so than Artanis. Both pushed other people instead, especially around the time when it got close out of nowhere and again 10 minutes prior to the deadline. Both were happy to sheep people for no particular reason and were happy to vote anyone but Yamato. Not sure what to make of Grush right now. His actions were by far the worst but he's grush after all... | ||
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On February 16 2013 08:30 marvellosity wrote: and if you don't care who hammered mafia, you shouldn't be playing mafia, frankly. You hammering yamato has nothing to do with your alignment. If you're town you hammered him although you thought he's a bad lynch because you wanted to avoid a NL. If you're mafia you hammered him because you were scared some random townie might hammer him to avoid a NL and feared to be forced into action. Both are perfectly fine explanations for the situation we've got and saying one or the other is more likely is bullshit right now. Given the fact that you have been willing to vote everyone and their dog except for yamato prior to deadline I'd say the 2nd one is far more likely. | ||
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On February 16 2013 08:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Yeah Matt, we lynched scum in the last minute so the natural first thing to do is to scrutinize those that hammered him. Would you rather look into people who voted him early? | ||
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