On February 16 2013 04:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm not comfortable lynching yamato. This bandwagon seems to go way too easily with not enough reasoning.

We have 3 votes total on yamato, which is as many as super has picked up in like the last 5 hours and yamato's wagon is the one that is going too fast for you?

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

February 15 2013 20:50 GMT

#641

I'll vote for Toad over super if we can't get a majority on yamato.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

February 15 2013 20:53 GMT

#642

Also I get a very bad feeling from marv's posting. There's nothing specific that I can point to but I get the sense that he is willing to push almost any of the wagons. It feels a lot like he just adds fuel to the fire whenever something pops up. The only person who he hasn't really done that with is yamato.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

February 15 2013 20:55 GMT

#646

And in between you seemed perfectly willing to push supersoft.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

February 15 2013 21:01 GMT

#649

I seem to recall you saying that as mafia, you like to push as many mislynches as you can before you go down.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

February 15 2013 21:04 GMT

#652

how is that irrelevant? It looks like what you are doing in this game.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

February 15 2013 21:26 GMT

#675

On February 16 2013 06:20 marvellosity wrote:
i still don't get why people don't give a shit that Vivax isn't here pushing stuff, when normally he screams like a maniac as town.

i don't get it at all.

meh, this is actually true.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

February 15 2013 21:27 GMT

#676

but yamato is the same is he not?

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

February 15 2013 21:27 GMT

#678

is it just because people are ignoring vivax while going after yamato?

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

February 15 2013 21:46 GMT

#698

On February 16 2013 06:42 marvellosity wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Vivax

join me guys. we can do this. and i'm right.

Can you sum up for me why you think he's mafia (like not related to meta).

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

February 15 2013 21:58 GMT

#714

Can you show me an example from the game I hosted marvel? Vivax is right when he says that LIX was completely different - you were in complete control of that game and had a bloc that just backed up everything you did.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

February 15 2013 22:20 GMT

#723

I think we should stick with yamato. But I'll back something else if you guys try to lynch super.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

February 15 2013 23:10 GMT

#831

Someone should shoot obviousone tonight. It seems very strange that he screws around for most of the day and then comes back to vote super on nothing.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

February 15 2013 23:24 GMT

#853

Btw, everyone should note that Artanis was not the majority voter on yamato - he came afterwards. Additionally, he was a person who constantly defended yamato by attempting to frame the case on him as being about lurking instead the extremely strange behavior in the beginning (which Artanis also attempted to explain away) and by complaining about the wagon being fast. The most suspicious part about the wagon thing is where he says the yamato wagon is too fast while ignoring the super wagon which was actually bigger and faster-developing.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

February 15 2013 23:28 GMT

#857

If I were mafia, I would have a pre-written post to claim credit for a lynch when it actually didn't do anything. I don't think it's unlikely that Artanis would do that. Also, TL towns are generally scared of no-lynches beyond belief, so a lot of blame gets thrown on people who "cause a no-lynch" even if they otherwise did nothing suspicious.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

February 15 2013 23:31 GMT

#861

grush feels very genuine to me. I don't think he is a good lynch right now. Also he is a guy who tends to run around and try to create all sorts of last-minute wagons if he doesn't agree with the lynch. I don't think that is a sign of him being mafia - he is capable of doing that as either alignment I believe.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

February 15 2013 23:47 GMT

#882

I think these people are good vig candidates: obviousone, coag.

Then we have vivax, marv, artanis - these are the people that I think need to be looked at closely by everyone.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

February 15 2013 23:48 GMT

#883

hopeless too i guess.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

February 15 2013 23:53 GMT

#888

marvel, I would like to see an actual full-fledged case by you on Vivax before daytime. I do think he is very suspicious but I do not really have the time to go through his games and I find it very difficult to tell if he is genuine or not since I don't really have a good grasp of the way he thinks. during the action res period if you can would be good.